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3 Bracket Racing Secrets! Best Advice for Beginners!
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- In this video, I explain 3 very common, but misunderstood secrets to having a competitive bracket racing Car or Truck. These three things will give a great start to anyone wanting to compete or just have fun at their local racetrack.
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A mid-ninetys Dakota v8 has those mini starters factory, you can get those much cheaper than the ones sold as mini starters. Hope this helps somebody save money. Also they fit both small and big blocks.
Oh yea. I’ve never bought a real Mopar one. I usually ask for a 95-96 ram 1500
@@JustMoparJoe as far as i know its the same starter on the ram. They arent mopar starters, prob denso but its been a while since i had one off. I just discovered your channel im looking forward to the 413 build.
Thats an awesome tip!!! Had no idea!!! I always wanted one til it came time to spend the money!!!🤣
@@wheels-n-tires1846 91-95 will work
This makes more sense now that I've seen the Mississippi rain out trials. Great little video.
Thanks brother. This was a classic lol
You are so right. Keep it simple and not too dependent on high tech stuff. It breaks too and can be very unpredictable.
Thanks Herb! Hoping to get to test this weekend after my trans rebuild and new stall. Video coming in the morning of the trans install
Just love going back in the library and finding a video here and there I have not seen or never got to finish at lunchtime at work. God bless you JMJ! I hope you and the family are doing well, hopefully you get some rest and recovery time in. Hope your week goes flawless and the way you need.
Thanks brother! Hope to have more 408 stuff up today and Saturday morning 🤞🏻
Great Practical Advice!
KISS, Keep it Simple......
That last letter is all me! Thanks Andrew!
Fantastic video! I’d like to see more of these, actually. You make a great point: it’s one thing to enjoy drag racing, but it’s another altogether to be a successful bracket racer. Reminds me of the difference between recreational shooting and training. Both can certainly be fun, but one involves more purpose, structure, science, and discipline. They are both both great, but should not be confused with one another. Bracket racing is a niche you should share more.
Thanks brother. I know so many guys that would show up and run, then look like someone killed their puppy when they lost, with old slicks, no traction, bad converter, etc. I would hope to line up with them! Lol
Just found this video wish I would have found it before I went last week for the 1st time lol I'll be using these tips for sure! Thanks Joe 👍
Thanks brother! You wouldn’t believe who I learned those tips from 😂
Great vid! And I agree 💯 for bracket racing consistency is the key! And traction is the best way to be consistent. Do everything the same every time, after your car is set on kill, to get the same time everytime. Then you just have to cut a light. Lol. Good stuff bro!
Thanks bud. I have been following your channel since the start. I definitely left some comments when you were playing with converter stall and launch Rpms. I’m definitely no expert in bracket racing by any means, but my dad and I were track champions with our mopars from 2010-2015. I could see what was working for us and what others were doing. You can attest, like I did, my car used to win way more races than my skill ever did. I see guys that have to run a drag slick, or guys that have to have a “dual purpose” car that’s street friendly and track ready. Or even guys who run a tight converter because they want to drive Monday through Friday, then race Saturday. It can all be narrowly done, but they’re competing against the guys with tube chassis cars, widest slicks they can fit, and best race converters on the market. It becomes a game of skills vs. bills, and the 💰usually wins!
Great video, I honestly didn't really think about these thing, I just keep thinking about power. All this video did was make me want to build a drag racer!
Just something to put on your radar. In case you ever build up a nova
@@JustMoparJoe Ive got to start preparing now, just in case a cool car pops up!
I'd like to hear more about torque converters
Cool video!!! I'd throw in there that the car's tune needs to run consistent as well. Cutting a good light and having a car that repeats (and hooking up is a huge part of that) and you are well on your way!! But, I'm just a test and tuner so my goal is always to run my best ET ..... LOL
Good point... I always was fiddling with timing and air pressures, every night and between rounds. Often i had issues with engine temp and had to tune to avoid detonation, as the 440 never had quite enough cooling in the summer to run multiple back to back passes... Yeah, im the guy who was icing his intake and had his hood half open in the staging lanes LOL, helmet in one hand and distributor wrench in the other...🤣
That’s always been my issue. My tnt is usually the 3 time trials before eliminations. I never made many tnt nights because the track is 2 hours away.
Sorry fellas, but when i go bracket racing, I don’t go to fix/tune my car. Unless there’s fixable breakage.
@@gtdart970h me either... But with the hugely varying conditions weekend to weekend, there were tenths to be had by spending a few minutes under the hood. I found it fun to "science out" the car amd what worked best each time!!
When I used to help buddies out or build my own bracket cars I always said, spend your money on cam torque converter and rear gears. because if you can get those three to match you can do anything. Very informative and great Show Joe.
Thanks brother! I shot you an email
First off the car looks great and second solid advice on the 3 secrets .Look foeward to your videos always learn something good,n im no Dummy LOL.I would like to see you paint the coils on the shocks seens as your a solid painter.Thanks Joe have a great day and thanks for posting!
Thanks Bill! I might just do that! But I need to win a race first. Those might be the wrong spring rate for the car.
@@JustMoparJoe Good thinkin
Great advice!
Thanks brother!
Great video Joe!
Thanks brother! It was a quick one that I had on my mind. And i needed to wait until Saturday to drop my 42 minute 413 build 😳
great video mr joe! i know for a fact you’ll make that car a winner,
Thanks brother! I hope so!
Agreed!! My last "race" car was actually also my daily. But after a year of driving to work, and weekends at the track, I took it up a notch. Dumped the column shift for a B&M rachet, and put slicks in the trunk. Besides gaining a second, putting me into the mid- but mostly high 11s, my times started becoming much more consistent (thats relative as im just an amateur LOL). But even with variances in temperature, track condition, cars overall happiness that day, whether i was napping at the light, etc, my times grouped into about a .3 window, where beforehand, my times were shotgunned over nearly a whole second!! I think the slicks were the biggest part, as Id previously had to "pedal" the car well into 2nd but the shifter def helped too!!!
Absolutely! My black truck would hop off the ground with new drag radials at launch. I even broke a traction bar. Three slicks on and never had another issue.
@@JustMoparJoe Yeah slicks are awesome...!!🤣 A slight 'chirp' and...gone!! That was a far cry from pedaling the car and working hard to keep it goin straight!! Funny thing, this was with a 7.25 rear...and it lived behind the 440 for years!!!
Oh and congrats on the 3k subscribers
Thanks for the support!!!
I couldn't agree more the shifter you're running is perfect my shifter is on the column and it's stocks I just want to leave it that way I also have a manual reverse valve body it was built by Ray Christian he built it for me about two years before he passed away the company I used to work for sold him transmission parts your car is looking really good now it looks more completely it looks like it's ready to go
I’ve done it in my truck, but when it got faster than 8.0, my linkage was a little loose to go from gear to gear(with 4.56’s). Less issue with 3.23’s lol
@@JustMoparJoe yeah I'm not going to go that fast anymore at least not very often
Thanks for the tips!
I use to do a lot of bracket racing back in the '70s but haven't done any since then. I'm retired now and there is a drag strip about an hour away so I'd like to get back into it.
I have a decent running all stock '79 Corvette with L48 and T-350 with a shift kit. The car weighs about 3500 pounds and has a 3.55 rear end gear. It's an extra car that I don't drive much so thought it might make a good bracket car.
I'm thinking I'd rip the smog stuff off and go with some aluminum heads, cam, intake, carb, distributor and ignition. I have a set of Hooker headers for it. Then maybe a 4.10 gear and high stall converter. I'd run slicks as it would be a dedicated strip car.
It probably runs high 14's now but would like to get it into 12' or better but make it bullet proof and consistent.
Is there a bracket drag race forum where I can talk with other racers?
Thanks.
I used to be a part of one called midsouthracers.com. Also check on Facebook. Corvette should run well!
@@JustMoparJoe Thanks for the reply.
Congrats on 3k subs bud!
Thanks Randy!
I've been consistent on regular street tires and drag radials, i haven't tried slicks yet
It’s possible for sure! Just out of my realm of accomplishment lol
A spraggless torque converter will help keep the times consistent. Many high stall converters have a weak stator sprag, the slippage is inconsistent and so are the pass times.
Spraggless converters are not for the street.
That’s what I just had upgraded on this. Bill Dowdy said it was a great converter except for that.
I liked first race in this video
That was some bonus footage 😅
I used to race Dodges back in the 1970s. All the guys with the Chevrolet's wished they could have put a 727 behind their motors because they realized the Dodge 727 was better!
Definitely. John Cope agrees!
Cuttin good lights consistently is huge. You red light or have poor reaction times you will have a very short bracket racing night.
It was a lot of fun. I should have won each of those rounds if I had my car consistent. Hoping to soon!
Great video once again. Question. What did you use to mount that steering wheel to the column?
It’s some Kind of grant adapter that came with the car. I’m not sure of the part number. It seems to line up nicely
Bang on bud
I appreciate it Rich! Hope I can win a few for the home team soon!
Good advice, have 2, but not a good shifter. Have any advice on launch. Going to run this weekend at Geezers at the Grove. Maple Grove Race Way Pa. Thanks Subscribed.
Thanks! I’m a big believer in letting a converter flash up into the power band. If you have good traction, then you can stall it just enough to smooth out the idle(maybe 1,500 rpm). Make a pass and then add a few hundred rpm, watching for 60’ changes and your downtrack MPH. To be competitive, finding the sweet spot for your launch is more important than squeezing every last second out of it.
@@JustMoparJoe Thanks sounds about right for my rig, 300hp 65 nova, 456 gear, new 7'' slicks, very old man, hope I don't sleep on the tree, or under one. Shucks rained out, but big money race next week. Have a couple of retired big tar cars I bought, bout got one of them repowdered, a 68 camaro. Thought eyed learn, with Nova. Thanks again
@@rader1175 good luck!
Nice car Joe. Im a 4 speed guy myself. I know...
If you got a good shifter, you can bang em out! I want to race my challenger one day, but I need a better gear, traction, and a better clutch lol
Hey Joe what oil do you run with the spool a guy recommended 75 120 synthetic
I honestly can’t remember. It was Lucas brand from Oreilys.
Most important (IMO) is have a routine. Do the same thing every time you pull into the staging lanes. Tire pressure, engine temp, burn out time, trans temp, staging depth. KNOW YOUR CAR. Keep good, thorough records. Make ONE change at a time. Bracket racing is about consistency
Absolutely! My old local track would have races every Sunday. It was almost the exact same time between races. I go to different tracks and they run 6 classes in a night with anywhere from 12-40 cars in each class. It becomes hectic and hard to keep the car temp regulated.
@@JustMoparJoe Controlling temps when you're going rounds and cool down times are shorter is a problem. This is where test&tune sessions are very important (knowing your car). If you know your 60ft slows when the trans temp is 50 degrees hotter than normal, you can push the tree a little harder, change front tire pressure or stage a little deeper. Likewise, knowing who your car responds to DA changes, or dropping pressure on the slicks 1/2 pound because the track has cooled as the evening goes along.
I should note, (obviously), knowing how your car responds to DA changes etc can also tell you which way to adjust your dial in for the next round.
Now I don’t know if you run foot brake or not but I have a question. When you stage do you pump the brakes in the stage light to build pressure?
I only run foot brake(no electronics or pro class). I do not have to pump my brakes in the stage lane. I roll out of my burnout, push the pedal and ease into the lights. My car has the newer style plastic master cylinder with the two plastic caps and two bolt flange. Check out my barracuda race video. Had some nice lights for my first time out with that car. Hope to have my 408 in the car soon and be back to the track next weekend
@@JustMoparJoe thanks 👍
What shifter do you use?
I believe it’s a hurst promatic 2
@@JustMoparJoe thanks
I have the sister car to yours
Excellent! This one is getting nicer every day.
Why aren’t you running an air shifter bro, if you had an air shifter you would push a button on your steering wheel to shift, a 4500 stall is what a dedicated race car usually runs for a converter, bets carb is a Holly Dominator FK EFI you lose power with EFI best intake in my day was the victor jr, now days it’s the eldelbrock super victor
Thanks for asking! I run in the No Electronics class. That includes shifter. I don’t plan on this car ever being fast enough to need one. It currently runs 8.0 in the 1/8th. If I had 1,500-2,000$ for fuel injection, I’d probably buy nice Aluminum heads with the money. My converter seems to work well for the car. I’ve only been able to get out one time since owning it and having the street 360 in it.
Can we talk about sandbaggers? "cheaters".!
They’re out there. But it’s nearly impossible to beat a consistent car that has a good reaction time. Let them play games at home!