How to build a V-Tail Aircraft for Long Range FPV & Autonomous Missions
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- How to build a V-Tail Aircraft for Long Range FPV & Autonomous Missions
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I've linked the electronics down here
Alternative's to the F405-WING & Recommended Flight Controllers:
Matek F405-WTE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlk...
Matek F411-WSE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddw...
Matek F411-WTE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dl1...
Racerstar BR3536 950kv Motor: usa.banggood.com/custlink/GDK...
Hobbywing 40A ESC: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBK...
MG90 Servo's: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dmw...
FrSky X8R Receiver: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFC...
Eachine TX805 800mW VTx: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFx...
Beitian BN-220 GPS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFN...
My Radio, FPV Goggles & Antenna's:
Eachine EV800D: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCx...
FrSky Taranis X9D Plus SE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCw...
Triple Feed Patch Antenna's: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DCg...
I've linked the electronics down here
Alternative's to the F405-WING & Recommended Flight Controllers:
Matek F405-WTE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlk...
Matek F411-WSE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddw...
Matek F411-WTE: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dl1...
Racerstar BR3536 950kv Motor: usa.banggood.com/custlink/GDK...
Hobbywing 40A ESC: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DBK...
MG90 Servo's: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dmw...
FrSky X8R Receiver: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFC...
Eachine TX805 800mW VTx: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFx...
Beitian BN-220 GPS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFN...
The few links I tried are all broken already!
@@piconano Oh weird. I see it now. Just type the name and it'll appear
Inav ou Arduplane?
total cost you personally spent after taxes and shipping?
I am currently building a 25kg aircraft, so please tell me how powerful a motor and battery pack is required to fly it for at least 15 min.
Please.
By the way nice build. Looks like an excellent design,
keep it up.
Nice build there, it's so refreshing to see people still doing it the old way. All the RC guys now seem to be just into reviewing ready made stuff.
Interesting build, thanks for sharing. May I suggest a few details, that could improve performance? First the alluring box fuselage. The vertical side of the long nose will act as a vertical stabilizer in the wrong end of the plane and counteract the v-tail. Think shooting an arrow backwards (feathers first). A rounded shape would be better, but keeping the vertical side as low as possible also helps. Secondly, while providing some (servo) redundancy, the V-tail induces adverse yaw. An inverted V-tail helps providing positive yaw, but can be difficult to implement in the tail pushed design - it sits more better on a twin tail boom configuration. So a conventional tail may be better. Finally the availabilty of affordable laser cutters makes building your own wing profiles from NACA proven airfoils very easy, so you don't have to compromise here. Still I like you project a lot!
Nonsense
Thanks for these ideas for improvements! - The Adverse Yaw effect had no significant or noticeable effect ever in my V-Tail designs and worked flawless.
The square tube design is just the easiest method of building a fuselage for FPV platforms (not the most aerodynamic/optimal shape, but it works well enough for a +10km and back)
The Inverted-V design came to me last couple of days coincidentally, to have an FPV design look like an MQ-1 Predator - But that is indeed complicated since it’ll need the retractable landing gear of same mechanics.
But it might happen because parachutes an consideration too.
Interesting, ... why don't you build your own! 😱😁🤪🤣👍👍🇺🇸
Any recommendations of where I could get a crash course on these ideas ?
@@LimabeanStudios dis guy is in Denmark! 😱🤪🤣😁👍👍🇺🇸
I keep procrastinating on a long-range build under the assumption it'll be more complicated than something acrobatic, but this emphasizes the bare necessities for LR fun. Many thanks!
Very nicely done. Looks like an excellent design, especially in terms of overall build simplicity.
This is motivating me to stop eyeing the hobby FPV platforms and build my own. Thanks for the great video!
Man, you are crushing it!! I'm glad to see you taking the EA style to the next level. I'm jealous you're getting so much air time. Keep carrying the torch. And way to go on the huge views on this video.
Thanks so much for the video! Just finished my Christmas break building one of these. Using a normal 4 channel radio for the maiden, then adding FPV and Matek controller. Awesome design - goes together just like your video!
Very well done instructional! I'm an old man who is new to trying to build my 1st RC plane, I'm going to go with your plans. Thanks for taking the time to make this vid
Bro I’m going to tell you right now that I’ve stumbled across videos randomly before and this has sincerely changed my life and I have never seen anything like this ever. Man you won a new subscriber today wow
Glad you got to see this one =)
Make sure to check other build videos out!
Good work. I like that you are continuing legacy of the wonderful experimental airline stuff that came before you.
I'm glad to know that you're a true model aeronaut. and see people like you still doing it the old fashioned way. most model plane makers just want to buy a kit. continue to show that you are from scratch you are not lazy you created your own style of modeling all the best stay in peace 👏💪
Thanks man! Appreciated it - Another scratch build (build series) coming pretty soon!
ive been following your videos for a while now, and its so cool to see how your process and ideas keep evolving, this build was awesome
Thank you for posting this video! I have precisely 0 experience in this area but am interested in creating a long range build like this. Thank you again!!
It's always fascinating to see a v tail flying. Thinking of building a v tail soon 👍
That is a lot of information presented concisely. Well done!
That's a really nice build, I feel like you don't often see good looking and good flying planes that are this easy to put together. As a fun side note, if your aircraft geometry will let you, inverting the V-tail gets you even better performance. When you turn using a V-tail it induces a small amount of roll opposite of how you're rolling for a turn, the A-tail flips that around into roll that goes with the turn.
Good to know!
But it’ll require landing gear which I’m not really a fan of. But who knows!
@@AeroStuffFPV yeah that ads a lot of weight and drag. you can do extra janky stuff like making the A attach to a horizontal stabilizer. you also often see the A tail on a twin boom which would work on a pusher set up, but that would require a huge redesign. My design team likes A tails but our landing gear is never high enough to allow for one
@@waywardscythe3358 I'm considering building an A-Tail Twin Boom Pusher - I did design twin booms in the past.
That's a very interesting and useful tidbit of information I had not realized before. The fact that inverting the V-rail counters the counter-turning. Very kool.
Very cool. I started building a custom airplane - Experimental Airlines style - a couple years ago, and never got around to finishing it, and I was trying to figure out how to attach the wing to the fuselage ... and then I just happened to discover this video, and there was my answer! :) I'm definitely borrowing some of your ideas. I never even thought to put FPV gear in it, even though I'm currently doing some fixed-wing FPV flying and just got an airplane ready to fly with an F722-WING controller running INAV 6.0. Just waiting on a new radio, and hopefully INAV 6.0 will be official just in time for the maiden flight. But now I'm fired up to finish building my Experimental Airlines design!
I love this! I would be interested in seeing follow up videos tweaking the design to get even more range out of it.
Love your channel, making me want to get back into FPV!
Hace unos años seguí a Expermetairlines, aprendí mucho, pero nunca más publicó, veo que este canal sigue su camino. Muy bien.
Very interesting and showcases the possibilities of flight ✈️
Thanks for the build guide!
Very good and inspiring video
I really like the atmosfere you got in the video with the music and all
Your parents should be proud off you, keep doing what you love to do and have a good time
So. Excellent work! You are the subject matter expert on this aircraft. So I defer to your great experience. Your winglets are over sized, you are correct that they cancel vortices, but they do not need to be 3-4 inches on each side of the wing, .5" at best. The faster an aircraft goes the larger those winglets need to be to maintain stability during maneuver. yours are very large for what little speed you are maintaining. What you have created is an aircraft that in a very tight bank (75 degrees) allows you to turn in place and observe a point on the ground without losing altitude, and minimal throttle correction to maintain that altitude. Forestry Cessna 152's, have very large rolled down wing tips so they san "Sit and spin" over a potential target and observe it. You seem to be going for loiter and distance, I would just add bent winglets (-6 degrees or more with experimentation) depending on how much loiter in the turn you want. my 2 cents. everything looks great.
A-we-some! Simple and efficient! (But I couldn't figure out many years ago how to do it.)
Great job, Love your videos
Massive congratulations to you for carrying on with Ed's channel.
Awesome build!
Thank you, very nice and pro looking model.
🙏
Really good build and video.
You're amazing!! Nice job
Top notch, well done
so good I accidentally tried to like this video twice. Thanks for the top to bottom info.
Great video, this is awesome 👍
Very nice. I wish I lived near you - so much to learn....so much to learn...
Hey , WOW
Congratulations my friend!
Imazing! 100K Veiw :)
Amazing Build🤟
verry cool FPV kit!!
As with your other videos, excellent job. Thank you.
Many Thanks!
Great job .
Really nice aerial footage of that plane in flight.
Cheers!😎
Excellent. Thank you
That’s sweet bro. I didn’t realize depron was so much lighter. I’m def gonna give it try. My main flyer right now was inspired by the reptile dragon 2 and flys awesome but weighs 1,200g without the battery. 48in wingspan and auw of 1,970g lol. I don’t mind it but it’s very nice to know that depron can make a difference.
Yeah, depron would make your plane go 300-400gr lighter. It revolutionized my builds!
A flying wing of mine with a 4S 5000mAh Battery got me my endurance record of 2h 02min (plus thermals) but avg. amps were approx 3-3.5 and it wasn’t small either (approx. same as this aircraft).
Depron is the go-to!
Great video
Bonjour ; vôtre montage est absolument bien réalisé ; c'est réellement bon au vu des
prises de vues aériennes , stabilité réactions aux commandes de vol ; du très bon
travail ; bravo .
Salutations amicales de FRANCE . JCC .
this is very cool sir!!!!
Hi your videos are great 👍
Requesting you to make INAV configuration video
Hi Nathan, I wanted to express my gratitude for the incredible work you've been doing. Your experience has been a valuable source of learning for me, and I appreciate the effort you put into sharing your knowledge.
I'm particularly intrigued by the setup you used for the vtail plane, and I would love to explore the components further. Could you kindly share the links for the 950 KV motor, propeller, and the rotatable camera you featured in your video? I'm eager to dive into the details and potentially incorporate them into my own projects.
great looking craft
Yeah, absolutely. The plane has pleasant looking proportions and lines.
nice video!
Nice!
its super nice you ive to me a new proyect Thank you
Bravo.perfect
winning, thank you!
Nice.
like no. 661... sooooo close! that's been happening a lot of late.
irrelevancies aside, nifty vid. subbed.
excelent.
for more range you can try to streamline servos; I've seen people put them in the fuselage and run wires out to the control surfaces. This would reduce drag a fair bit I think
True,
but it isn’t a drastically change in efficiency.
The larger it is, the more necessary it gets to be streamlined
@@AeroStuffFPV just a thought. A lot of NACA studies around the ww2 era looked into this a bunch. the british mosquito was very fast for its time, for example, because the wood construction meant it had a smoother skin than riveted planes. even metal planes went from protruding rivets to flush rivets. have you ever flush riveted something? it basically doubles the amount of work it takes to assemble it. The other big areas of study for NACA drag were air scoops (look up NACA scoop) and how to cowl rotary engines and water radiators for min drag.
These are really great videos and builds! Thanks a lot for sharing this one :) A couple of questions if you do not mind.
1 - How much payload it can carry, approximately?
2 - What was the final max. distance?
3 - Is it possible to connect this craft to notebook and control it from there?
Hi
My apologies for the delay of the reply - I forgot to reply the moment I saw it weeks ago.
1: I'd say the aircrafts maximum AUW would be 2.5kg, so about 1000gr of payload - (unofficial)
2: Of all time, I got 10.8km - But with this aircraft, I got 8.58km so far. I hope to encouter good weather to fly further with it.
3: Depends on your radio/flight controller - Mine is simply operating from a radiotransmitter and goggles give the videolink.
@@AeroStuffFPV What is the max range on radio/antennas?
BADDASS - Not just the plane but the video from a FPV UAV of the UAV. Bad Ass.
Cheers!😎
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Great job. Your first V tail model is on my build list I think this one will replace it. Can I ask the motor you have linked in the description looks different to what you have fitted? What is the actual motor and prop you are running on this version?
Thanks! Good luck on your build =)
It's a BR4114-600kv with a modified 14x5.5 Carbon SF Propeller (Soon replaced with a 14x7/14x8)
- The motors listed are alternatives if the actual motors are out of stock. The previous V-Tail Pusher design (Black, Silver & Yellow) Has that particular BR3536/950kv.
Maybe on a future video talk about the purpose of having tapered ailerons. Also, you still fly the wing? Can you compare it to your V-tail? Thank you so much!
A high quality product as always. What is the thickness of the depron used for the wing?
5mm depron & foamboard
sic! I'm building a large 2400mm flying wing. I'm going to try and use Sintra to skin it.
Very good job. I like your channel.
What is the flight weight ?
Thanks for sharing, happy flights !
Thanks! It's 1550gr (incl. 60gr HD Camera)
@@AeroStuffFPV Very good, cubic wing loading approximately 8.7, like a balsa trainer but very longest flight time!
I building one this winter. Thanks a lot.
Depron is an amazing material! Rare in Europe though. Could you please share info on what dimensions sheets are you using and what's the price for it where you live? P.S. hot glue is hella heavy. Consider using Polyurethane Foam Adhesive (quick version) made for tough XPS foam. That stuff is magical and it doesn't weight anything.
Which glue brand would you recommend?
Guy is building military grade technology in garage. That's cool AF
The design is pretty amazing to me. Good job! Question: How do you find a bank angle for a coordinated turn in autonomous flight?
Thanks man! Many more designs on the channel too =)
The bank angle is just determined throughout the years of testing. 12° banking and 10° climb/dive angle are the best values for autonomous cruise control
@@AeroStuffFPV Thank you! I will have some time to look around your channel. :) Are you an academic researcher?
@@Hermis14 No man. Just an average student that is inspired to build capable FPV Planes. Nothing more. =)
What about the aesthetics? great video
Thanks for your video ! Very cleaver construction technique ! Could you share with Us a link or specification for these foamboard ?
Cheers!😎 It’s XPS Foamboard 5mm
Can you include process of designing your UAVs .. aerodynamic calculation and balancing..?
Very cool dude!
Really cool build! Was just wondering what CMOS FPv camera you used?
Just a cheap CMOS camera from aliexpress
Awesome stuff. the flight controller, is this something a beginner could do? I have never soldered before.
Thanks!
iNAV Flight Controllers aren’t that hard not easy - Watch some videos on CZcams about these flight controllers and they’re capabilities.
I’d recommend the ZOHD Kopilot Flight Controller - It’s plug & play
Thank you for video ,but how dose it land without propeller damage?
So how did u determine what should be the wingSpan and wing profile and controls surfaces? Great videooo
The ‘Photon’ motorglider model from Experimental Airlines on CZcams is the standard/default/archetype of my further-developed FPV models
@@AeroStuffFPV thanks for reply. Have a nice day👍🏻
Hi, great video…thanks…Would you provide the dimensions for the winglets?
Very nice video sir...sir can i have a linksite of motor and a propeller you use in this project...im making one same like yours.
Hello there, so the total wingspan for the build is 160 cm? is the length of the cf tube 160 cm as well or are they a set of 2 tubes?
I really love to learn and build... never done build before, never try; where do I start from? hope to getting your response.
Cool! What kind of flight time did you get?
Thanks!
I didn’t test flight times much. Currently still in it’s stabilizing & autopilot testing w/ the temporary 14x5.5(SF)
But I’d think approx 32-37min w/ 4S 5000mAh LiPo - But much increased with a different propeller
Great build. Question: How did you join 2 wings? Did you use carbon spar?
Carbon spar
It's right there in the video.......
I have a technical question: what’s weight ratio should be inside the fuselage? I mean center of pressure and lift from wing, is there a rule of thumb?
Also what’s the best motor thrust required for good long flight
What modifications would need to be made if you where to increase the main body weight by a lot (say batteries) and how can you increase accuracy at high speeds + low altitude
Thanks a lot!
I know that my planes of these sizes can have up to 2.5kg AUW before it’s efficiency rapidly drops (4S LiPo’s/LiIons) and it’s current weight is 1550gr incl. HD camera of 60grams. so no modifications needed until 2.5kg or so.
If I’m exceeding that weight, I’d go for a thicker/longer wingspar and configure the flaperon mix to increase lift upon launch & landing.
- The accuracy could be done by doing an “auto-tune” which is a feature with iNAV-FlightControllers -> It’s to get the PID/PIFF values by just flying the aircraft for approx 5-8min and get the flight controller to measure the values.
@@AeroStuffFPV Thank you so much!
I like your builds and was considering making one, never have built a plane before. But i kinda want to come up with something unique and not just a copy. Does anyone know of a good resource for general guidelines like dimensions of wing area compared to other surfaces?
Hi. What programs you use to auto pilot? Can you explain more about the electrónics?
How do you control the distance? For example, I want to make a drone that flies 50 kilometers or more. What should I do?
could be cool to see the prices displayed when you list the components
How resistant is it to electronic countermeasures/jamming? How much explosives can it carry?
@@AeroStuffFPV should be egough for a PG-7V
Amaizing!
How much distance could be added adding solar panels to the wing, considering weight of all the panels and added components? Encorporate them into the wing design to minimize drag(recessed area for panels). Might not be too much considering the size but have seen it before near this size
The amount of solar cells to fly 3S/4S would be insufficient so it isn’t a solar flying platform. I’m considering building one in the near future and it’ll be a flying wing for lots of area for many solar cells as possible
"rctestflight" is kinda the spearhead in the solar plane arena. I believe his current version is limited to the LTE network, and weather. if he had clear sky's and signal he probably could coast to coast his aircraft.. until a motor or esc burned out.
czcams.com/video/vYeYZpBE51I/video.html
Hey there ! I'm currently working on an autonomous payload dropping drone and my knowledge on autonomous flight is very poor . I was wondering if I could have a 1 on 1 Google meet session with you to clear all my doubts and concerns over my project and I'm currently using your design for my project. It would be a great help if possible and I've got a very limited time to complete .
Muy bueno ,es posible acceder a las medidas de tu proyecto ? Saludos
Measures are mentioned in the video.
Thanks!
Am surprised that depron is that much lighter (0:40). Any idea the weight of an equivalent 1m x 1m square of foam board vs. depron in grams? Thanks
Having a lighter aircraft will increase endurance time, but a heavier aircraft may be able to cover more ground more efficiently (mAh/h). The higher energy consumption could offer added distance covered by being more efficient at higher speed (mAh/km). Maximum endurance and maximum range are each good traits, depending on mission goals.
Keep up the great work, experimenting and trying new designs.
Thanks!
It’s true having a foamboard 1-former wing is heavier but faster which results in increased efficiency over distance in consumption.
The Peace Hawk LR+ (Black/Silver/Yellow V-Tail Pusher) has slick foamboard wings and does 6A (4S) at 43-47kph and approx 132-137mAh/km which is quite efficient for it’s design.
The depron wings allow less amp-consumption but reduced airspeed (to match the same Mah/Km) with this design (but having a thicker airfoil with more lift/less airspeed) -
The exact same slick wing like the Pusher LR+ but from depron is on a T-Tail Tractor design - But still unpublished. Hopefully being able to squeeze an intro in the near future!
@@AeroStuffFPV Nice efficiency numbers. :)
Can you create a video tutorial for beginners? I'm interested in FPV drones, but I lack knowledge about electronics. Could you make a step-by-step guide on building a small drone? Thank you very much.
Sure would like someone to develop depron or similar 3d printing filament.
Hello.
Do you think it is possible to replace the plastic plates with balsa wood?
Great video! What kind of tape is that?
Wing tape from hobbyking
@@AeroStuffFPV Thanks!