17 Damage - Part 2, Druid and The Electric Boogaloo - Diablo 4
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Intro: 00:00
The Wrong Buffs 00:44
Shepard's Aspect 01:17
Rabies 03:46
Boulder 06:13
Lacerate 09:03
Druid's Problems 10:00
Envenom 10:28
Tempest Roar 11:10
Reliant on Uniques 12:09
Problematic Design 12:48
Join me on my Deep Dive about the Druid class, and discover the reasons why it's doing 17 damage, in the sequel of this awesome saga, ''Druid and The Electric Bogaloo, a Diablo 4 story.
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We're like a hive mind. I have a spreadsheet that I've been populating to make a video exactly like this. I agree with everything here. Hopefully we can bring about some positive change. Did Boulder being a pain in the butt inspire this video? That's what inspired me to start my spreadsheet. Lol
Brother, the Druid content creator community is very small and I know this, but I hope with all hope that you guys shining a light on this brings about some positive change. I knew it was going to be a rough season since they didn't really change much from last season, but even that was an overestimation. S4 Druid just doesn't feel fun to play, especially when you play other classes as alts. My fully geared Druid is put to shame by my incomplete barb(to be expected honestly) and rogue alts. The power discrepancy is so bad that it could only be possible if the Devs aren't play testing Druids. It really does feel like an afterthought at this point. Without some serious mid-season buffs, Druid will lag way behind going into next season. My hope is that they are working on an overhaul behind the scenes, much like they did with Necros this season, but my optimism is definitely dwindling.
@Screamheart - you and ace do a great job with druid content creation but t i think what may result in druid bug fixtures and class rebalance is to make that next step and figure out a way to get you and ace's thoughts in front of class DEV team - that is the missing peice for real change otherwise this will just go by the way side :(
Love druid, started one this season and started pushing pits, but the limitations of the class became pretty clear early on. Made a barb and was immediately blasting thru what the druid was having trouble with while having much worse gear
Druid does 32 times less damage than the top build of Barb and Sorc.
@@Goblin-Inc😱😱😱😱 32 ... So sad 😭😵😩 ...
Very well said. Druid is so hijacked by Shepherd, with three skill spaces occupied. Druid should really focus on the four directions (storm, earth, bear, wolf) and mixture of those, and companions should really be something just included in the spirit boon for free.
I think this is a super cool idea and makes me thing of a similar implementation to the Necromancer passive minions. If our spirit boons were renamed to Wolf, Bear, Creeper Vine, and Raven then the passives you choose involve the different improvements from the skill trees OR being able to summon the said spirits could be a great alternative to what we have now.
thats actually a good idea I never even thought of putting them in the spirit boon. maybe take the top boon out because druid never uses thorns and everyone typically goes for the DR from elites
@@trevormcquillen3659 Indeed. Wolf for wolf, Bear for bear, Creeper Vine for earth, Raven for storm.
this is the way, what v prayer and t roar do should be in the boon, not in the gear slot
@@cheechlabeech That will be even better.
As someone with over 1,000 hours playing the Druid, I concur with everything said in this video. I keep praying that the devs will wake up and realize how under developed the Druid is and work to improve the class, but I keep getting disappointed.
The only builds where druid was good were because of glitches. It's unplayable in its current state imo because they constantly destroy their builds instead of fixing them.
literally the same I have played every season with druid with 1000+ hours as well and every season I enjoy playing however this season I really thought i'd have more fun I was wrong... leveled the same way push T4 at 42 got to level 93 and then stopped playing because the druid is apparently at the bottom of the list for pushing pit... and the pit doesn't even have a leaderboard. Its greater rifts with no leader board... all the other classes got stacked and we got wind sheer... its all good though ill be back next season. They are heading in the right direction
I'm trying a human lightning storm druid and I'm struggling with tier 61 pits. I know the werewolf form does more damage but I'm playing human form....
I just want to know how to find hours played. 😅
@@VFRNinja easy, get a divorce and sell your kids haha.
Druid has:
- The fewest gear slots, on par with Necro and Sorc
- No free pets unlike Necro, who by the way can have up to 11 bros at the cost of just one hotbar slot
- No auras like Sorc's fire bolt and ice blades slots I mean enchantment slots
- The WORST class specialization with the most tedious quest chain, requiring you to:
* Defeat a Stronghold
* Gather unique currency
* Do a fetch quest
and all of that to get a bunch of fucking radio buttons where you select boring and small buffs, unlike Necro who gets a strong ass minion handed on a silver platter, or Rogue who gets three distinct play style options.
To be fair, Barb also has a lame specialization and UI, but at least you get the quest over with quickly and in just one location.
The Druid's skill tree already pointed to ideas for specialization but all we got are lame and uninspired shit. What about specializations for pets, wolf form, or bear form? Or Poison, Storm, or Earth?
Necro has to sacrifice their minions for benefits you however do not?
You are the ONLY PERSON addressing this. Rhykker has all the fans so they address stuff he says. We must make a large angry noise #FIXD4Druid! #GoblinincKnowsDruid ‼️
I made another post on one of his videos saying the same exact thing. The devs will listen to the content creator with a following which is why I am glad he brings these topics up. I think just right now people don't like the character design of druid with a bigger more clunky silhouette. People can't get over the fact that the character design isnt appealing or cool so they gravitate toward other classes. The Devs see that most players play the other classes so they fixed and boosted those classes to change the majorities perception of the game.
Season 1 lightning storm druid was some of the most fun I've had in the game. Tried it out this season and it is miserable. I dont enjoy companions or minions and being forced to run them to even deal mediocre damage is terrible. Really great video and thanks for putting into words what I have been feeling.
From day one I hated the companions and was glad they were pretty optional. I definitely dislike that this season they became the meta option.
I loved what Wind Daddy brought to the table this season, as well as Land Storm but to see Druids in such a state overall just sucks considering where it started in s0. Druid needs love NOW not in a few months- well hopefully Druid is next for buffs.
I applaud you standing up. You are the first one who voiced these problems. Usually, all everyone can do is tell how great Blizzard is and what a brilliant game they have.
Thanks for bringing some common sense to this issue.
In this patch they killed all the fun builds and replaced them with the most boring builds in the history of all Diablo games.
I used to main druid this season. Ran content with my friends playing necro, barb, rogue, and it just felt like I was getting carried. Wind shear dot ticks maxxing out at 30 mil for me feeling like a pea shooter compared to my friends wasnt a very fun experience.
if they want boulder to work, they should allow boulder to remain a wrath skill as well after turning it to core, and the amulet should eliminate the knockback effect, turn it into stun or something
They added the core skill tag to every mastery skill on Sorc, why a freaking aspect (the Boulder one) don't do the same?
Chance to knock down . It’s what a real boulder would to
Chance to freeze would be sweet too, ice boulders
Isn't it funny how the amulet gives you + to Wrath Skills, but the Legendary Aspect you need to make the build work turns it into a Core Skill, rendering those bonuses to Wrath Skills useless! That's how you know they don't care about Druid because that's dumb as hell.
Thank you for finally shining a spotlight on this. I have an inordinate amount of time played as a Druid and have spent the better part of 5 months now getting downvoted into oblivion on Reddit for pointing out these glaringly obvious design flaws. This class comes off as a class that doesn't even have dedicated testers on the Dev team. It is a mish-mash of decent ideas that are executed horribly.
For instance, why tf does Earthen Devastation still have a dmg cap and why is the qualifier one that is nearly completely useless for the Bear and Earth builds biggest weakness(boss damage)? Why does Quickshift and Wildheart buffs have a timer rather than just being triggered when you swap forms? Waiting 2 seconds in a form that does nothing for your build just to get a buff feels clunky and disjointed. Why does the class revolve around Shepherd's as a band-aid fix instead of addressing the weaknesses in power level through the talent tree and paragon boards? WHY?!?
Hopefully, they listen to you and do something about it because the class needs a total overhaul, badly...
Good video. I made a comment on reddit with a lot of these points, but I didn't know enough about druid to get my points across eloquently. Hopefully the devs watch this video and take note.
Holy shit...what an amazing video! He breaks down the Druids perfectly, explaining tje strong points and weak points. Ace mate you are on point witn all your media at the moment. Keep up the amazing work 👍
I’m a Druid main, ty for content and builds. I really want them to give rabies a buff. I’m an old rabies/fury and windy d2 pvp warlord. Also do something more with pvp, like a leaderboard or something, I just feel the pvp is meh in d4.
It seems like Blizzard has hated Druids since Diablo 2.
While we are working on a patch that recommends turning into wolves and bears, we will never sell wolf and bear skins.
Bear Druid needs to be 20 to 30 times stronger than now.
I talked about the same issues during the preseason shortly before bg3 launched. This class has so many issues that were already present from day one. This season however made it 100000 times worse because we now have direct comparisons to other classes with no ceiling. There are fun builds for the druid but man its a lot of work for avrg results at best. The lack of tempers, the need for unique effects that should be spirit boons, the lack of much needed additional aspect slots, the lack of close/distant dmg on regular gear, the lack of multipliers for storm skills especially without that god forsaken companion spam since the game launched and so much more. I just wish they would at least give us 2 additional aspect slots as a bandaid in a hotfix, but i guess thats not easily done because of coding.
Made a sorc and was shocked that it didn't take very much at all to make mana stop really existing as a mechanic.
They need to understand to give skills interesting abilitys that have synergies with other builds, instead of just adding numbers.
We lack both right now tbh and most desperately we need higher numbers.
There are so many things with druid that are so clunky. Why can Provocation be used on basic skills? Why does blurred beast only work on dash? Why does lacerate only hit 1 target at a time? Like no wonder it is the least played class obviously the devs dont even play it.
Finally someone who can bring attention to this garbage
Thank you. I just really hope someone from Blizzard looks at this and brings back grizzly rage i.e.
But druid needs to be buffed across the board.
Also, when are you coming out with the pets build? I’ve been working on it and I’m hitting a wall with it and would love to see what you come up with.
This video captures a lot wrong with the state of Druid rn. I agree completely with the power of envenom, which has been making bear/earth builds dependent on creeper just for a source of poison damage. I also think it should be mentioned why earth/bear builds have struggled to compare to storm/wolf builds. You need to find a source of poison( creeper needed+two pets for shepherd taking away from any build variety), AND you are capped on a legendary paragon node earthen devastation. The latter being the biggest issue, where storm skills get thunderstruck uncapped scaling plus other multiplicative passives, and earthen devastation gets stuck with capped crowd control dmg scaling. This is especially noticeable in your latest storm slide build where you use landslide just to trigger free lightning storms rather than focus on landslide dmg. Hopefully this video blows up and helps improve much needed Druid changes.
Honestly, I'm not sure nodes should be uncapped. It's just that even with Uncapped node the class suck, I would rather see Thunderstruck being capped and everything buffed. It would make more uniques viable, most of the can't be played since you lose 1 roll of Dmg Distant/Close
@@Goblin-Inc this would definitely be better for overall balancing between the two and the dmg to close/far rolls as you mentioned
I played my druid hardcore for 3 weeks min maxing everything and finally got a 100 pit done stacking 2 pots and incense in almost full 12/12 gear. After that accomplishment I made a barb and within 3 hours of hitting lvl100 I pushed pit 100 with 4/12 master worked gear, crap gems, no min maxing, and crap tempers. My 3 hour Barb surpassed my 3 week druid. Druid is so underwhelming dog shit when you are forced to play 3 pets on your skill bar & having to change forms just is useless when you want to use grizzly rage modifiers. Remove pets and remove this demand to shapeshift for bonuses. Its dogshit
Thank you for this Video, it is everything that i have been frustrated about and is the reason i stopped playing this season. i spent so much in game money trying different builds that i enjoy and none of them worked. i really hope Blizzard see this and help us!
Rabies most frustrating component is the fact that it doesn't stack. They let you get the cooldown super low, increase the duration of it several times over, and have wolves apply it also only to have each new application decrease the damage of it because it refreshes it's ramping damage timer with each application. Making it stack while giving a few numeric changes to it would make it actually a playable skill.
Well put brother! Even with grizzly rage in its original glory we’ve never even been close to competing with barbs…
I just started playing druid this season and with completely max gear (+7 to core skill gloves, envenom amulet with attack speed, tibaults with close dmg reduction GA, triple GA weapon), i max out at 111 pits. With less geared necro, i hit 110, and this necro barely has GA and is just rolling with nice tempering. Druid in d4 is emblematic of the blizzard character design i remember from their games going back a decade
It would be really helpful if druids could use overpower as easily as necromancers tbh, i feel like that is a mechanic that has high potential for druids (building hp). Instead of absolutely requiring the things Aceofspades has pointed out (which hamper us), giving druids the ability to more frequently use overpower would be interesting and open up a lot of builds
Touché !!! Absolutely nailed everything that has me frustrated with the Druid and has me ending season 3 and, now, season 4 play after two weeks.
There is nothing to strive for or try as everything is either glitched (why is my second boulder not doing damage?) or incredibly weak on Druid especially when combined with the crap tempering system with 4-5-6 Druid options in each category.
Thank you!
Hopefully those who can change will listen, too
Thanks for the constant support and call for improvements. Yeah Druid is needing some love. Didn't play S3 but had an engame druid as my main in all other seasons. This one is harsh.
Best build I have tested so far is the overpower hurricane one hitting for 100mi+ per tick. It uses the updates on wrath and it is an ellaborate build but quality of life is really low on it. Can probably push pit 100+ with it though so I am saving the setup while I explore more builds. Now I am trying to see how far pure earth builds can go before I test wind daddy or the earth + storm approaches
Incredibly clunky builds with huge setup before it can be played. And it would be ok if the power was there, but it's worse than the leveling build ''Wind Daddy''
I only ever play Druid and I still love the class, but it has skill design issues. To be fair I'd argue the entire skill system is due for an overhaul, and that would fix the problem.
When Slide-Storm upgrade?
As druid player since closed Beta i can definetly agree to eveything Ace said. Blizz it’s finally time to give druid some love and please uncap earthern devastation bc i want a viable earth endgame build since day 1! Ace thanks for all your efford and keep up the great work. thanks for your service
Great video! I agree on everything you said, make Druid great!
Everything said in this video is 100% true. Its sad to see my favourite class beying pushed back by incompetent class designers who casually buff/nerf random stuff ALL YEAR LONG without any field testing. When all they need is to watch such videos...
I have tried all builds on druid (1000+ hours) and even theory crafted my own like earth spike (this season via tempe) - such a disappointment to realize that on perfect gear with top rolls/ 4 projectiles with earth spikes and optimized build you deal half a mil dmg KEKW
Druid has been my favorite since s0. I was having an absolute blast until I hit upper pit tiers and it fell off on single target damage. Just buff my pulverize for boss damage and well be fine lol
1 yr still on same Druid character, it's well said and thought about. It's been painstakingly frustrating but fun to play, but jealous at the power of the other types.
I will say I've made my Werewolve Companions crazy strong and it's been a ray of light.. but please buff us more Devs! Perhaps more to Toxic Claws ..
I noticed what you been doing but the tempest roar is limited and other classes aren’t as limited. I’m
currently using your hybrid Earthbreaker Lightning Storm /Slide build ‼️ - every single thing you said is true
are you going to update the slidestorm mobalytics build guide before the season is up orrrrrrrrrrrr
So many great points. You left one out, Stormchasers aspect pisses me off every time I see it. Other classes not only get added functionality on core skills but also a damage buff (Frozen Orb, TB, etc, etc). Add shepherds to the mix and that is 3 slots gone and if we use something other than Shepherds it isnt a just a 10-20% damage difference, it is somehweee around 100% which is absolutely ridiculous to pigeonhole a class into using 2 aspects and 3 skills on any build that hopes to do the druid version of pushing content.
Here is a great example of how I feel just stuck with no choices. I have been running LS all season and I really enjoy it until it comes to dpsing down the damage sponge bosses. SonInstarted looking for a way to incorporate Grizzly Rage...but of course I would have devote 2 aspect slots to it. I use Zenith/Unsung/TR/Mad Wolfs so I only have a total of 3 offensive aspect slots (2h, ammy, ring). I cant take away Shepherds or the +1 Companion aspect under any circumstances or my damage is gone. I wouldn't want to lose Lightning Dancers but if I could buff my boss kill speed noticeably I would, but I genuinely just dont have a good option. Then I was thinking that maybe there is a way I could use another damage skill (like Tornado) to help with bosses but with Druid talent and paragon synergies being so "weird" and being forced to keep 3 useless skills on my bar I just havent foind a way to do it that makes sense. It isnt fun o be forced to have skills and talents that yoy dont want to use to be viable.
Shred is also one of the coolest abilities in the game with true mobility and damage…but when it was good it was also a bug, they keep nerf the good builds inside of making them functional and giving us things almost no one has asked for, like worse ball lighting…
Is there anyway you'd be willing to test some things that don't seem to be working on druid? Maybe I'm testing them wrong.
They keep on giving druids new builds that simply doesn't work. Boulders should just be a permanent aura that circle around the druid because the way it is now the build is among one of the worst performing builds ever. Earthquakes from trample, slide, and poison vines should also just be a permanent thing that follows the druid that automatically seek out targets. You have to make new builds amazing or else no one is going to play them.
First off, thank you for all of your builds and information that you provide for the class. Sheperd I feel like is the largest offender as it's one of the few ways to build damage while also requiring you to surrender half of your skill bar. Perhaps a change where druids have pets as a passive and rework the pet skill tree to specific actions of pets?
The class could use many reworks, BUT maybe it's better they chill and just fix the math problems that Druid has first.
@@Goblin-Inc absolutely fair. we can only cross our fingers that this class doesn't stay the red-headed stepchild for the midseason patch
My fav class is Druid but honestly since s1 they never get the love they deserve. Always under powered compared to other classes. The shred build you made should still be here and another 2 other type of classes from Druid. I hope druids and sorcs get more options of crazy power
im always been a barb main, since the game launch i've played barb. Having said that, this season, since is so easy to lvl alts, i made a druid and oh boy it sucks, im playing stormclaw druid and the tempers, passives skills, key passives and the lack of slots for aspects makes the experience pretty bad. For instance, im using the bestial rampage key passive which requieres 2 sec to activate either form, why is this?? it should be instant, meanwhile as a barb i go berserk and gain 100% (x) multiplier instantly with unconstrained.
In my opinion they need to add more interesting tempers, more multipliers and buff some passives and other multipliers, also all classes should have more aspect slots, barb and rogue are ok but sorc, necro and druid are missing in a lot of utility and damage multipliers because they don't have more gear slots. Since they are "caster" classes they should have a reliq, heirlooms, books or what ever.
Finally, since im a barb main at heart, i don't want barbs to get nerfed, instead i would love if blizzard balances the game up for the other classes. Obviusly bugged build and unintended (or crazy) interactions like bleeding and bash need to be adressed and properly balance/nerfed
It's a shame. Druid is my favorite class. Not bc its the strongest. But bc its the most dun. I have accepted that pushing high tier pit just for bragging rights is not fun. I am rocking tornado with the uber unique Ahavarion. It crushes everything else in the game minus high tier pits. And it's fun.
It's what happens when you do a 180 on design direction, adding power creep overall and speed to the game and raising the floor for meta build. It exposes that you didn't originally design for the need of several multipliers for various builds per class, didn't design skills and animations for the zoom zoom playstyle, certain aspects become null and void, etc. It wasn't so long ago that aspect of the stampede got nerfed to the ground back in open beta. Even if they un-nerfed the aspect it'd still be underpowered by today's standards.
Boulders should be orbitating in hurracane like a Paladin Hammer from the center to max distance to hit enemies in all range from close to distance.
I remember the preseason when i started a druid and was so miserably disappointed by the class. then I found a Tempest Roar and thought "wtf is this garbage item", just to find dire wolfs aspect 1 minute later and put those things together. i was so amazed by the power tornado had back then and also finding out about trampleslide and other builds on the internet.
i knew theyre going to nerf this class because it felt so damn strong.
sadly they ended up putting the dog on a leash and nerfed the entire class to eternity while remaining its dependancy on TR to work just a little bit.
i really love your work, the first video i saw was about abusing cronestaff to obliterate people, but especially barbs in pvp with the low life bulwark/cataclyms build. keep it up man!
anderiel's visage's life steal affix dosent work at pit boss btw
We should also be able to temper at least one affix onto uniques
I play Druid every season and I totally agree with this. They need to do something about this right now
Passives,unquies, and paragon board should get some revamps druid is by far my favorite always run the class first in the season and really love boulders just seems to be lacking very much agree with this video
I completely agree with you about Boulder. It has so much potential, but the constant pushback from the boulders is a real pain in the neck. Micromanaging Hurricane feels like a chore, and spirit control is just out of whack. I need to be standing at a specific distance to do damage, but the boulders keep pushing everything away. It's super clunky and frustrating. I want to main this build, and I want to love this build. Please, Blizzard, fix this.
First. Love your videos, excited to see this!
What is your opinion on doing a human lightning storm using earthern might passive?
But Man i have quit druid this time its just so annoying to gear and play now and i DO NOT want to use shepards aspect on every single build. On top of that the constant resource issues. I miss grizzly rage
So now i have switch to rouge and barb and honestly they were incredibly fun that i dont think ill ever play druid again even througj it was all i played since release for 3 seasons.
LS is atk speed locked, that is why we use Landslide to cast it more efficiently.
04:35 I feel your pain brother
this season i started with rogue and then made barb because they look so fun and then i made a necro to craft my grandfather. all my toons are min-maxed and i had so much fun this season but omg im so happy i am not playing druids. My characters are so OP its insane. druid play you are basically sandbagging yourself.
Keep up the videos, hopefully ill roll druid again when they buff a real build
My issue with druid has been how invested you have to be with a lot of the builds making it not fun to level or strive towards a build. I wanted to enjoy druid but, I can't just pick up a few aspects and blast like every other class can. I hope they fix this cause I really like druid cause it feels like a lot of thought went into the class itself aesthetically speaking but, as it is it takes too much to get it off the ground its hard to commit time to play the class more.
i think druid needs a complete rework.
It completley misses the point.
Most werewolf builds use storm spells.
Most werebear builds use earth spells.
Pulverize and Shred are hardly viable.
I have fond memories from D2 of zooming around as a werewolf, just ignoring enemies as werebear, summoning hordes of animals, and making spellcasters focusing on a variety of different spells depending on the build.
D4 druid just feels uninspiring.
PS: have anyone ever used Cataclysm for anything?
This was the season of the minions. I feel like next season will be druids time
Blizzard should work with content creators like Ace to properly balance their classes
Dinging Lizzard and GRRM in the same vid: 👍. You win the internet today.
LIZZARD? I'M DEAD💀
I believe true forms should be in druid boons instead of uniques which are mandatory for a build and you cannot use ubers.
Also I really like to play bearman with overpower but I find it unpleasant when only barb has too much dmg prev season but unique amulet got nerfed but not the class/skill itself which make overpower bear build even worst.
Agree with this trending shepard aspect, don't want to waste 3 skills just for a dmg boost which is still pretty low compared with other classes.
Good video
Druid might not be in a strong place in the meta rn however im still rolling one during the bonus xp event this week simply because leveling alts to get extra sparks is fun to me
Thank you! As a druid main only I can't stand playing i feel like I'm hyper focused into the same build every season it's boring. Not to mention every skill on the druid they all feel so terrible.
I hate shape shifting, I hate companions. I'm confused on why druid doesn't have access to cold or fire damage an only does storm let alone everything has to be aoe or single target no general good skills. The fact the druid has only ever survived off bugs in diablo 4 says alot. They have no idea what they are doing still.
they should add another weapon slot for us druids.
Well-done sir you have expressed exactly how I feel as a Druid player. I have been banging my head against the wall trying to make a good build that can push the pit. I even Levelled a second Druid to 100 just to test with. I actually stopped playing but will maybe jump back for the event . I Feel that druid needs to many parts to get it going and dropping a unique or aspect just breaks the build . its so bad. I feel like Blizzard has not really tested this class and a casual player i have spent like 300 hours this season trying to push the pit and i just gave up.
Shred Druid pre-nerf was awesome
Can anyone explain why paingorger's gauntlets doesn't work on this class?
Because the base damage we do is almost 0, Barbarians have multiplicative damage for Bash on 6 Weapons.
4 weapon slots mate. Decide to pick 2H you lose temper and legendary affix.
Makes sense, I thought you could use Claw with the unique then use nature fury which gets you 3 basics x whatever the gauntlets multiply is.
Still does 18 dps when I tried thou.
I was ready to quit the league on Druid until you came out with the Earth Daddy video. It’s an actually fun build that’s powerful. I was so sad that every build I saw this league uses the Shepard’s aspect and hardly any builds even use an ultimate ability. The grizzly rage days were fun, they should have left it and made other ultimates better to compete.
Is there a guild to the rabies build?
No, I didn't think people would want to play something so weak. You can see me make it in one of my stream vods tho.
I love all the synergies like natures fury and the 'now are storm skills' uniques.
I want something like this for mages, that couöd convert fire to ice or so....
I've started a druid recently, playing as werewolf with poison, using claw, shred and rabies with my alpha wolves. The wolves don' use rabies often enough, so i still have it on my bar (and not using ravens). but i wanted to use all werewolf skills, including ultimate, but it's just not good enough. With 20sec cd or with aoe hitting every mob and inflicting ALL your wolf skills it would rock.
Now i'm starting a new druid with your landslide-lightning build. But this will take very long time to get mana/spirit mgmt right...
4:25 That was my ring.. 😆 it is what is with this tempering.
Have 2 lvl 100 druids this season, tried a ton of builds, stuck with your wind daddy and lightning storm.. dunno I think only these 2 feel competitive vs other classes with clear speed and pit pushing. Tempest roar is such a chore to get too for levelling.. so much issues since they killed fun builds..sigh.
Second comment for algorithm:
Any hope for a pulverize build? I'm running 100% werebear plus the blood boil aspect and I one shot entire screens of enemies including elites, it's just bosses that slow me down. Any advice? It's the most fun build I've ever played but those upper pit bosses are a hard stop
No hope.
Nothing will help Bear until they uncap the damage multiplier of Earthen Devastation(like they did with Thunderstruck) and change the qualifier away from dmg to CC'd and make it dmg to close. Plus Shepherd's kills half of your ability bar in order to do mediocre damage despite Bear being the build that desperately needs defense and utility abilities instead. It ticks me off because I enjoy Bear builds the most, but they are pretty much useless outside of leveling and very casual play.
It won’t solve everything but allowing the Druid to carry a staff and a focus would go a long way. (Sorc too)
Druid was a pain this Season, was so happy when i switched to Rouge.
They should massively buff Rampaging werebeast
I feel like the balancing issues go beyond that. Almost all meta builds rely on a bug that enables some sort of double dipping, unintended mechanic or multiplier. On top of that we have seen 4 seasons in a row that the additional weapon slots that rogues and barbarians get will always give them a HUGE edge, that only got bigger with tempering.
I don't hink all the classes need to be perfectly balanced but having barb at the top every season will grow old.
Also what is the point of a PTE when we have bugs like WW Snapshot, Ball Lightning, Victimize double dip *every season*?
Builds shouldn't be based around finding the most beneficial bugs. (At least not ALL builds.)
Druid is my favourite class in D4 and I've always found it really sad that it's had constant issues with resource because it feels like the class with the most unique builds and utilisation of the skill tree. Until you get the gear with correct rolls, which can take awhile, you will be miserable where no other class seems to have the problem this seriously. It's like they need to cut 10 - 15 spirit off most skills so the lower gear levels are actually not infuriating to play.
Maybe one day the druid will be more viable and can compete with the other classes 😥
I started playing a Barb and my Lvl 80 barb can clear Pit tier 76 under 4 minutes. I took down my first solo Duriel at Lvl 66. with only 4 active glyphs at 15.
to put it in perspective, my Lvl 100 druid could only clear up to tier 60 pits, and my Lvl 100 Sorcerer could only clear up to tier 73 pits. with all of their glyphs at 21.
Every time some class makes an overpowered build it gets nerfed immediately, except for Barbs. right now barbs have 2 broken builds that are ridiculously easy to make, Bash and Flay/bleed.
Not to mention the class mechanic questline is probably the most tedious by a long shot. I just want to play a competitive pure pet build, and pure melee builds that do good ST damage.
Blizzard's biggest mistake was the Barbarian. It's not that it isn't strong, it's that it makes all other classes feel like crap once you've played it. Every other class needs a bug to get anywhere close to this class. Every colleague who has played a druid no longer wants to play the game. simply because it feels like everything isn't working. It's been like this since the first beta.
Devs thought they are too smart and they are gonna balance the game with some classes having more gear slots than others 😂.
And here we are adding core power creep mechanic which makes you even stronger if you have more item slots 😂 impressive to me
I’m sick of people complaining about barbs having four weapons. That’s their class mechanic. Their paragon nodes and glyphs aren’t as good as Necro or even Druid. I don’t see an uncapped multiplier on the Barb board.
I don’t see a 100x damage increase on an aspect for Barb either. Unlike Druid and necro. Necro class mechanic is insane too. Barb bash doesn’t count because it’s obviously not intended to be multiplicative. The rumble glyph is going to be addressed as well. Barb was bottom in season 0-1. If you really think it can’t be balanced because it has four weapon slots explain why necro has a higher pit push with one slot. Absolute novices whining
“Been like that since the beta”
Someone obviously never played grizzly rage werenado pre nerf
@@bipolarexpress9827 who cares about uncapped multi on druid board when barb gets 2x more from one tempering 😂
Oh but wait it doesn't count it's gonna get fixed but I wonder when, next season? If all those fixes are next season then I still say D4 team has no clue about balancing and you right now you might be all good and dandy having fun on your barb but when tides turn and barb is dumpster tier again you gonna be on the same end of spectrum as druid are and Im gonna call you clueless novice whining 😂
Will diablo team buff druid middle of the season? I highly doubt it... it will take another few months until they address these issues. Such a disappointment. I dont even know if they will ever fix dolmen stone tempering bug this season. This devs additude is ridiculous
Gave up on my Druid at pit 90. Rerolled Necro
I miss set items, and Kanais cube from D3.
Perhaps that would be a way to make druids functional, 1 for each playstyle.
Human set... Werewolf set, Companion set, Werebear set.
Also, i bet blizzard never tested anything like usual... the roof is lvl 200 on the pit, but the absolute best players and strongest classes, get 150, or around there at max.
I made a druid for 1st time this season and was disappointing to say the least. They need to do a druid reborn season. Got to 100 got tempest roar and felt the same shait begging for resources mid boss. Hope this reach then and they fix it for good now
The Druid class needs a complete rework from top to bottom. Lack if synergies. Lack of damage. Terrible resource management. Extremely ling cool downs. Mandatory aspects. Too gear dependent. Lack of a real class fantasy. Just to name a few
Land Storm V2 go go go
Druid needs huge buffs and reworks
All these uniques feel so limited because you can't enchant them to get rid of a useless affix and you can't even add one temper to them. I really hope they change that issue soon. Recently I made a bash barb and was amazed at how powerful it was so I wanted to try and make a druid build somewhat similar to it by using Maul.
It's not going well, everything feels so limited. It's quite hard improving the damage because it's a shapeshifting skill and can't be made into a nature, earth, or storm skill. I have trouble making use of envenom because it's so hard to poison enemies while in Grizzly Rage; I have to rely on the passive poison creeper to poison 1 enemy every 6 seconds and a 30% lucky hit chance of the Bad Omen passive causing a Nature Magic lightning bolt which could then trigger the 15% lucky hit chance of the Constricting Tendrils paragon node to poison an enemy. There's just not enough synergy. I might have to ditch the idea of using grizzly rage and try petrify instead and see where that could lead. The temper for maul size seems a bit lackluster too, it just makes it hit a little bit further away but you don't really notice it because the character always runs up super close to the enemy before it swings; you have to shift click to stand in place and attack in order to really see any difference.
On another note, I wonder why we don't have a unique totem for druids? It seems like that could potentially fit quite well into builds instead of it taking up more important slots.
My clan mate and I both main Druid but we've both moved onto others. I'm in the other class I also make every season (Barb) and he's on a Sorc.
I'm hoping the mid season patch can bring some fixes and QoL changes for now but Druid needs some drastic changes for synergy.
Boulder bugs, Nature's Fury bugs, being tied to Shepherd's on almost every build, not having enough slots to have enough aspects to really make some great builds on power with other classes but also having way too many aspects for one skill to make a build work.
Meanwhile, I hop on my Barb, throw on suboptimal gear and smashing through Pit 110s.
It was mentioned by Raxx (I think) during one of the Dev streams that they have no dedicated Druid or Rogue players/testers like they do for the other 3 classes. With all of the bugs these two classes keep having, it shows.
I'm optimistic they'll get it together, hopefully for the DLC but I won't hold my breath.
Always great content and stellar, optimized builds from you, Ace!
Thanks for making this. I have 10 level 100 druids. And the class is getting less and less fun every patch
chance for ... projectiles to cast twice, damage to distant enemies, Thunderstruck, Shepherds Aspect, Aspect of Retaliation. i'm over it. they should have just named this class the Primalist.