I sympathize with them, imagine paying for a ticket and having to stand up for 45 minutes, then there's The smell, The people blasting music/talking loudly etc , I once did a 13 hour shift and managed to get a seat, only for some rude tourist to beg Me to give her my seat, no chance b London really is grim
Nice capture! Note that one of the train's "keys" is surrendered to the staff member during the process as reassurance to both parties that the train cannot be moved.
Actually it isn't necessarily the key to the train, although it can be thought of in that way. The 1972 stock used on the Bakerloo Line needs 2 separate keys to move: the main train key and the selector key. The former activates the cab and allows the driver to program in the route number and destination (for the automatic announcements, as well as to show the train number on the front of the train, which is used on TFL's Working Timetable). The latter key is used to actually move the reverser handle. This handle is basically like the gearstick in an automatic car, allowing you to select forwards and backwards. There are a couple of other indents in there, but those are not relevant. Once this selector key is in, the driver can select to put the train in forward mode, allowing him to drive it up to the end of the platform.
This happened to me, 8am rush hour when I dropped my physical season ticket on the track. I have NEVER felt more humiliated in my life. Nothing compares to angry London commuters 😂
Can confirm as an angry London commuter this would infuriate me (if i was in a rush). Otherwise I’d be like wow something interesting on my boring commute 😃😅
In the 1970s, when London was in the midst of an IRA bombing campaign, one of my brothers left his school bag on a bus. When this was discovered the area around the bus was evacuated and the police (or army) bomb disposal team came and carried out a controlled explosion. A few days later during morning assembly (at school) the headmaster called my brother to come to the front to collect the damaged remains of his bag ... in front of hundreds of other pupils plus teachers....
Good catch thanks for sharing, something probably everyone wonders what happens when something falls on the track. Well done staff and driver, looked safe and efficient
We have a lot of people to move. If you drop something your poor coordination is your own fault and we're not going to make thousands late just for you unless the object is a risk to the trains
I dropped my debit card on the tracks at Baker Street once and this is how they retrieved it. I was actually so embarrassed but grateful for the staff who insisted on helping me get it back
This is very kind. Here in Japan, punctuality is top priority and it is not rare that the dropped item cannot be retrieved until midnight, at which time the train service closes. There is a famous video of a man who gets upset because he is told that his dropped wallet would not be retrieved until late.
My shoe dropped off my foot between the carriage and platform somewhere in Japan. I continued on off, reached into my hiking pack and grabbed my hiking boots. I walked everywhere that month in hiking boots, forever looking for a cheap pair of slipons, but coming up short every time.
We have some of those but not on the bakerloo line. Although for some reason an announcement on this very platform asked passengers to stand back from the platform edge doors....
Makes sense. Where there is a conductor, when train is in the platform, staff can put arm between the platform and train. Conductor will keep doors open, which keeps brakes on, and driver won’t move until they get the double buzz anyway.
The power rails are in the middle and on the far side. The running rails only have a very small amount of power running through them to work the signal system ( only on lines that still have the old fashioned signals)
Oh they still do stupid things on the rail here, and it's n not a new phenomenon, back in the 80s not long after I had passed my guards course I covered a duty where the rostered crew were stood down for a few days after having a woman go under thier train, she had got down on the track to retrieve an item she had dropped. The driver was never quite the same after that 🥺
@@warweezil2802 Oh god. In Melbourne years ago kids were train surfing on the roofs, one kid got electrified. They also used to ride on the back of trains too. There are videos here of those incidents.
@@garynewton1263 I was luckier. There were 2 kids that boarded my train going south some years ago, I was running late and out of timetable order so I was pushing on quite quickly, we had caught the train ahead and we sitting at a red stn starter when I took a look back thru the spy hole in the cab I could see one looking thru the connecting did to the trailer car, I decided to take a look, pulled out my reverser key ( you could do that in 59 stock) walked back but saw nothing in the next car, I turned to go back to the cab but after a couple of steps realised I had seen something that wasn't right. There was a boy trapped between the car bulkheads on the right, he had been riding between the cars holding onto the depot rail that is the for use when the car is disconnected for overhaul etc. The fact that I had braked quite hard on a platform with a down gradient and the fact that the platform had a right hand curve pinned him there above a current rail carrying 410vdc. I sent my guard to get the station staff but had managed to extract him with the aid of a passenger ( thank you sir you help was greatly appreciated) I couldn't risk moving the train as one the brakes were released the would be a risk that the drawbar between cars would go slack relaxing the grip the bulkheads had on him and probably dropping him into the rail. Long story short it caused a 5 min delay and I ended up with a commendation on my record
@@warweezil2802 Oh god, I think I understand most of what you were saying. Obviously there's different terms in use between British Rail and Victorian Railways here. I was supposed to become a suburban train driver upon leaving Tech school but failed year 10 in 1983. Never went back and become a Print Finisher. You know what, after seeing lots of videos of trains and collisions, derailments and people being hit by trains I'm glad I didn't get into it. Should have got into signalling and train controlling. I actually was on a regional train in 2012 when a young boy got hit chasing after his dog near the line, I felt the impact. It was a V Line train travelling over 110 Kmh from Ballarat to Southern Cross (Melbourne). Anyway, I wish people would value their lives more!
Your video appeared on my feed and I felt somehow seemed familiar. I was standing beside you in the white jacket when they were retrieving the item 😂 Glad to be able to see them in action though👍🏼
That was your big break. You could have been a star! You could have had it all...wine, women, wombats. You could have moved to Hollywood and lived in a mansion and got a fake tan. Air kissed vacuous bimbo's and pretended to care about the poor. Won awards and broken hearts. Then, on your fifth marriage, ravaged by alcoholism and STDs you finally succumbed to your inherent nihilism and end it all in a lukewarm bath and a bottle of pills. Your gravesite would become a shrine to your legions of fans and talkshow hosts will pretend to have been your friend. And people will say... remember that Jim Vitaya-something or other? He could have had it all, but he blew it because he didn't seize the one chance he had...on that fateful day next to the tracks.
I think they should put adverts on tv to advise and guide the public of such an incident. Many have lost their lives retrieving their belongings on track. It would be good educating the kids also. Lots of kids drop their phones and go get them.
Another example of why driver only operation / driverless trains is not helpful to anybody except those looking to maximise profit at the expense of safety. Solidarity with all LU staff and RMT members.
@@unclepodger Vic Line is driver less, Yes they have someone sitting in the front but the train is controlled by the signaling system, as is, Hammersmith & city, Northern, None of thoes have PED's
The safety is not a concern since usually driverless systems have a station monitor who can perform an emergency stop if there's need to. Also, it kinda funny how put "solidarity" into that. Are you more concerned with a safety or some people's paychecks? Either way, they're not going anywhere, Jubilee, Northern, Victoria and Central lines, as well as Circle and central sections of Met, District and H&C lines are basically driverless (they use ATO which is basically the same thing, with only difference that it require supervision), yet the drivers are still there.
There is a lot more organisation behind the scenes for this procedure. It’s only authorised if it can be done without access to the track and will not cause a significant delay. The driver is notified in advance that his train will be used. Very rarely is it done during the peak and occasionally it has to be done during engineering for safety reasons. Tbh, It can’t be that difficult for people to not drop stuff on the track!
That one large gap due to a platform curving: am I a joke to you? I mean... It is rare for stuff to get dropped down the gap but some people do have arthritis, causing their hand to drop something at the worst spot. I'm unsure how it was a child's bag but still. It's possible, even unintentionally.
Anything that stops trains is bad news, all the trains behind it are halted too,, can cause additional problems with people panicing on hot , stuffy crowded trains. Passenger information is key. Its very unsual to stop the service during traffic hours, items usually have to be retreived during engineering hours unless there is a definate safety usse to trains, like something fouling the rails or likely to operate a tripcock. Rubbish blown into tunnels where there are points can foul the blades and really foul up the service so its a delicate call on the part of the traffic controller as to whether suspend the service for retreval.
@@flightsimmer9809 @AlexMetroman That’s interesting. Why’s that? Why can’t they just manually release the doors? I’d have thought that they would’ve made the doors easy to reset afterwards, but I guess they aren’t then.
@@eswnl1 at the point where you drop it!!! You should NEVER go down on the track to retrieve items dropped. If you lost your footing or couldn't get back up onto the platform a train isn't likely to stop before it dissects your very flimsy body. These machines take some stopping and unless the driver is aware that the train needs to stop short then the braking will have been judged to stop in the normal place and you may not be seen until it is too late to save your life. The rails are a dangerous environment for the untrained. STAY ON THE PLATFORM!
Here in Sydney Australia we do something similar EXCEPT the train is stopped on the approach end of the platform irrespective of where the dropped item is located. Also items are never retrieved during peak hour.
It makes sense to stop the train and get rid of the bag, if it got caught on the bottom of the train and wrapped around a wheel, it might cause problems with a train.
I assume staff see from a CCTV system that something has been dropped on the tracks,rather than a member of the public having to find a member of staff to tell them.
I finally know why they say "mind the gap", because you have stations on a bend and the trains do not cover it. I have only ever been to straight stations.
Well done station people. I presume that was the master key the driver handed to the station person to ensure the train wouldn't move. I wonder if you could do that with ATO?
See no reason why not with ATO, at least in the way it's done on the underground, because LUL currently uses semi-automatic ATO (train driving automatic being babysat by the driver). But DLR would be an interesting one!
@@jess.hawkins With ATO the driver would remove the RLK 22 key which selects forward. It's like a door key. I think it's RLK 22 it's 5 years since I've driven a Northern Line train!
Where ATO is in play the driver would be asked to approach the next platform in manual and stop where required by station staff. Then they’d fully secure the train and remove the train key before handing it to station staff.
I am honestly stunned on the fact the metro driver was wearing normal civilian clothing, I thought he would have a hi-vis jacket or some sort of uniform. Still a pretty good video though
On Manchester trams the drivers have to wear hi vis when riding on the tram as a passenger, or when they have to get out of the team for any work related reason. When driving most of them remove it, so I am guessing that's allowed as so many of them do so. Practice is the same on Network Rail for drivers and guards: they put on hi vis if there's any need to inspect the outside of the train, for example, but I've never seen than in hi vis when checking tickets (though they are in uniform then). I'm guessing that the rules are similar on the Underground and that the driver had a hi vis jacket somewhere nearby
It's freezing cold being a tube train driver. They are meant to wear a high vis or high vis clothing but you can wear a coat or jumper (during winter months) as long as it isn't restrictive and keeps you and your hands warm. Or, he may also have taken it off before he appeared, or he's just a reckless person who cares for no one's safety.
This is why you stand BEHIND the line. The line is a Safety Measure to prevent you from dropping your belongings, falling onto the tracks, and more importantly; from getting hit by an incoming train. The parent/career(s) of that child need to be warned! You need to pay attention to your children, especially in a place like a Train Station that has live Train Lines running through them.
they’re rlly nice i lost my shoe at barking and they said i had to wait til no more trains were running so i went home with one shoe on and had to come back the next day as they only retrieved it at 1am
The safest way to retrieve something from the track is to firstly remove shoes and socks for more purchase, jump down then straddle the track so both feet are firmly on each rail , then keeping the back straight and bend at the knees as you pick up the object. Oh and of course take the keys off the driver first !
A world where EVERYBODY is doing something so critically important, like coffees, pilates classes, meetings, Jo's leaving do, and ignoring everything related to their safety. But because they get paid too much for their lowly output, they have to be seen as above it. We need these people to have stupid accidents for us, so we can remain safe. Top tip, stand right on the edge of the platform and you can get to A and E first.
to the people asking what he hands her, read the other comments and/or watch/listen to the video you can clearly hear the female asking to have the key for her protection
@@daikicipolloni3151 Sounds right. This is probably similar to lockout-tagout. With the brake key missing, the train can't move, and therefore it prevents an accident by miscommunication. Once the 'item retrieval operator' gets the item from the line, they can return the key. In electrical and mechanical work, lockout-tagout padlocks are used for a similar purpose.
The train has a cab at each end. The "key" system is actually designed, I think, to make sure that the train can only be driven from one cab at any one time.
@@trueriver1950 more than that, on this stock it also controls the air supply used to release the westinghouse brake and actuate the trains control governor without which the motors will not engage
Never seen that in real life. Nice! For reference: Making other tube users more than 0.2 seconds later than usual is a crime in London, punishable by stern looks, pursed lips, and occasionaly thin smiles. Yeah. I do not kid. You don't want to go there. If you're very lucky, someone might even call you a name, or apologise passive-aggressively, but that would break standard 'no-interaction' protocols and the last thing we want is for civil society to break down completely over a bag.
Nope this is London and you will be heavily resented for taking a even a few seconds or minutes out of someones day. When I was around 18 I worked in a Supermarket and someone had a seizure in the aisle and split their head open on the floor when they fell and started bleeding. I saw people literally step over them and continue shopping rather than give up a minute of their day to get help. It was genuinely shocking. Living in London you do become very desensitised to the suffering of others. Could be the same for most major cities I don’t t know.
LUL Platform Staff - Eh wagawan, give me yo master key! Doesn't jack the train but retrieves bag Driver - Safe ting fam! This scenario was not included in the TSW3 update!
Everyone discussing how the bag was picked up.. but how did it end up there in the first place?! I’m presuming it was whipped off of the owner by the air flow from the previous train leaving..?
If this happens in India the staff will just dive on the rails, pick the stuff with their hands and jump on the platform within the timeframe of the train's stoppage.
If that had happened in America there would have been whoops and hollering, whistles and clapping as if they had just pulled a baby from a pram that had fallen onto the tracks seconds before the train struck.
The sliding window in the train looked like something from mid last century. No keeping the breeze out for the driver, with that home made design. Hopefully for the driver, there's no extreme weather conditions ☃️🥵 in that part of the world.
your gonna give them your control key ?? what if they lose it or they drop it ? then your build up the break pressure again and release the air brakes. too much NYC mta does not do that we just stop the train and turn off the engine.
You can feel all the tuts and passive aggressive eye- rolling from the waiting passengers.
With *NO* eye contact.
As it was Waterloo it would be annoying for those rushing to get off to catch a train to only make it part way into the platform
I sympathize with them, imagine paying for a ticket and having to stand up for 45 minutes, then there's The smell, The people blasting music/talking loudly etc ,
I once did a 13 hour shift and managed to get a seat, only for some rude tourist to beg Me to give her my seat, no chance b
London really is grim
@@Carltonwanks They're not standing for 45 minutes. They're standing for a few before the train arrives.
@@56independent42 ,I meant once they get on a train they can't get a seat, I'd never wait 45 mins for a train, it would be packed
Nice capture! Note that one of the train's "keys" is surrendered to the staff member during the process as reassurance to both parties that the train cannot be moved.
As is tradition
That's what has got this comment section wondering.
@@Patrick_Bateman92 not just tradition, it’s an operational requirement per the operating procedures
@@projiuk Yes, indeed, it is literally a rule.
@@Paul_Lucas yep, I’ve had to hand my keys over a good few times over the years
Did the driver give the platform staff the train keys so it can't be accidentally moved forward?
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
It's called Lock Out Tag Out.
Actually it isn't necessarily the key to the train, although it can be thought of in that way.
The 1972 stock used on the Bakerloo Line needs 2 separate keys to move: the main train key and the selector key. The former activates the cab and allows the driver to program in the route number and destination (for the automatic announcements, as well as to show the train number on the front of the train, which is used on TFL's Working Timetable). The latter key is used to actually move the reverser handle. This handle is basically like the gearstick in an automatic car, allowing you to select forwards and backwards. There are a couple of other indents in there, but those are not relevant. Once this selector key is in, the driver can select to put the train in forward mode, allowing him to drive it up to the end of the platform.
Interesting? Really? I guarantee if this was in America The crowd would loudly cheer, And some millennial would cry
@@simpilotadamt1012
Having destroyed the train line air the train wouldn't move anyway!
or volutarily
This happened to me, 8am rush hour when I dropped my physical season ticket on the track. I have NEVER felt more humiliated in my life. Nothing compares to angry London commuters 😂
Can confirm as an angry London commuter this would infuriate me (if i was in a rush). Otherwise I’d be like wow something interesting on my boring commute 😃😅
Have you met New York commuters? They'd beg to differ.
@@rob19ny don't you guys wfh???
London clubs sucks
In the 1970s, when London was in the midst of an IRA bombing campaign, one of my brothers left his school bag on a bus. When this was discovered the area around the bus was evacuated and the police (or army) bomb disposal team came and carried out a controlled explosion. A few days later during morning assembly (at school) the headmaster called my brother to come to the front to collect the damaged remains of his bag ... in front of hundreds of other pupils plus teachers....
Good catch thanks for sharing, something probably everyone wonders what happens when something falls on the track. Well done staff and driver, looked safe and efficient
Yup really exciting stuff, forget colin McGregor, classic movies etc, harry n Meghan,
The public want to see train staff picking up belongings
@@Carltonwanks I couldn't care less about Harry and Meghan
I had a person fall on the track,I ran over them.Northern Line,Angel southbound in 2010.
@@metromodernism he's a whiny crybaby that's afraid of his wife
@@Carltonwanks whos colin mcgregor
UK: *Recovers even a dropped credit card*
USA: *Metros and undergrounds are littered with stuff on the track*
We have a lot of people to move. If you drop something your poor coordination is your own fault and we're not going to make thousands late just for you unless the object is a risk to the trains
@@OnyxtheFolfa whopping 2 minutes late 😨
@@OnyxtheFolf i mean even the london underground is super busy.
US metro ignored a full shopping cart and let a train slam straight into it
really???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????@@MaxLai_0104
I dropped my debit card on the tracks at Baker Street once and this is how they retrieved it. I was actually so embarrassed but grateful for the staff who insisted on helping me get it back
I imagine it is embarrassing but it gives them a chance to practice😁
This is very kind.
Here in Japan, punctuality is top priority and it is not rare that the dropped item cannot be retrieved until midnight, at which time the train service closes.
There is a famous video of a man who gets upset because he is told that his dropped wallet would not be retrieved until late.
I think other trains may have passed already and they just used this one as protection, so the delay was quite short.
same here in chicago, if you drop something on the track its gone and you probably won't get it back ever, better luck next time lol
My shoe dropped off my foot between the carriage and platform somewhere in Japan. I continued on off, reached into my hiking pack and grabbed my hiking boots. I walked everywhere that month in hiking boots, forever looking for a cheap pair of slipons, but coming up short every time.
That's rather sweet, and efficiently done as well. Thanks! :o)
I was impressed, and glad I was able to see them in action.
How exactly is it Sweet? Those two ladies should cut down Their cholesterol and Hit The gymnasiums
:o)
I like how the lady is wearing shorts in the wintertime. No matter how cold it is on the surface, the underground is always so stuffy. 😃
i wear shorts year-round :)
A simple glass wall with automatic doors and self alignment on the train like they do in HK, would save so much trouble.
We have some of those but not on the bakerloo line. Although for some reason an announcement on this very platform asked passengers to stand back from the platform edge doors....
And dont forget about the large gaps due to curves in the track
Interesting, do they hold on to the train's master key to make sure the driver can't move the train?
Spot on.
@@seeitsayitdoggo That would be so evil 😶
this is also done with container lorries loaded by forklift to stop the driver leaving the ramp
@@widsy78 They do this at my work when we unload pallets. No keys = no unload.
Makes sense. Where there is a conductor, when train is in the platform, staff can put arm between the platform and train. Conductor will keep doors open, which keeps brakes on, and driver won’t move until they get the double buzz anyway.
The amount of power going through that live rail! Don’t think I’d like to have to do that!
The power rails are in the middle and on the far side. The running rails only have a very small amount of power running through them to work the signal system ( only on lines that still have the old fashioned signals)
It’s a four rail system on the London Underground unlike Merseyrail
It’s only 25 voltages current mate, not that bad
@@djturbine7565its 630 volts. The centre conductor is -210 and the outer conductor is 420. A plug socket is 230 volts
That device she used will be rated to make direct contact with the live rail and not conduct any electricity into her hands.
Very well done. Professionalism.
In Australia people do utterly stupid things regarding things dropping on tracks.
Oh they still do stupid things on the rail here, and it's n not a new phenomenon, back in the 80s not long after I had passed my guards course I covered a duty where the rostered crew were stood down for a few days after having a woman go under thier train, she had got down on the track to retrieve an item she had dropped. The driver was never quite the same after that 🥺
@@warweezil2802 Oh god.
In Melbourne years ago kids were train surfing on the roofs, one kid got electrified. They also used to ride on the back of trains too.
There are videos here of those incidents.
@@garynewton1263 I was luckier. There were 2 kids that boarded my train going south some years ago, I was running late and out of timetable order so I was pushing on quite quickly, we had caught the train ahead and we sitting at a red stn starter when I took a look back thru the spy hole in the cab I could see one looking thru the connecting did to the trailer car, I decided to take a look, pulled out my reverser key ( you could do that in 59 stock) walked back but saw nothing in the next car, I turned to go back to the cab but after a couple of steps realised I had seen something that wasn't right. There was a boy trapped between the car bulkheads on the right, he had been riding between the cars holding onto the depot rail that is the for use when the car is disconnected for overhaul etc. The fact that I had braked quite hard on a platform with a down gradient and the fact that the platform had a right hand curve pinned him there above a current rail carrying 410vdc. I sent my guard to get the station staff but had managed to extract him with the aid of a passenger ( thank you sir you help was greatly appreciated) I couldn't risk moving the train as one the brakes were released the would be a risk that the drawbar between cars would go slack relaxing the grip the bulkheads had on him and probably dropping him into the rail.
Long story short it caused a 5 min delay and I ended up with a commendation on my record
@@warweezil2802 Oh god, I think I understand most of what you were saying. Obviously there's different terms in use between British Rail and Victorian Railways here.
I was supposed to become a suburban train driver upon leaving Tech school but failed year 10 in 1983.
Never went back and become a Print Finisher.
You know what, after seeing lots of videos of trains and collisions, derailments and people being hit by trains I'm glad I didn't get into it.
Should have got into signalling and train controlling.
I actually was on a regional train in 2012 when a young boy got hit chasing after his dog near the line, I felt the impact.
It was a V Line train travelling over 110 Kmh from Ballarat to Southern Cross (Melbourne).
Anyway, I wish people would value their lives more!
It’s nice that in London they get it for you. In New York you just kiss whatever thing it was goodbye.
excellent short film - showing the only safe way to retrieve an item from the track
very quickly and effectively done by tube staff
Shame they can't afford a smile and they approach the driver like authoritarians. Looks like a toxic environment.
@@rm55555 basically all transport environments like airports, train stations are fairly toxic, the staff look like they want to die.
The rude man grabbed that bag like it had his mother's gold in it and walked of. Not even a thank you
Your video appeared on my feed and I felt somehow seemed familiar. I was standing beside you in the white jacket when they were retrieving the item 😂 Glad to be able to see them in action though👍🏼
That was your big break. You could have been a star! You could have had it all...wine, women, wombats.
You could have moved to Hollywood and lived in a mansion and got a fake tan. Air kissed vacuous bimbo's and pretended to care about the poor.
Won awards and broken hearts.
Then, on your fifth marriage, ravaged by alcoholism and STDs you finally succumbed to your inherent nihilism and end it all in a lukewarm bath and a bottle of pills.
Your gravesite would become a shrine to your legions of fans and talkshow hosts will pretend to have been your friend.
And people will say... remember that Jim Vitaya-something or other? He could have had it all, but he blew it because he didn't seize the one chance he had...on that fateful day next to the tracks.
Damnn, 2 CZcamsrs 1 cup xD
HUH?
I think they should put adverts on tv to advise and guide the public of such an incident. Many have lost their lives retrieving their belongings on track. It would be good educating the kids also. Lots of kids drop their phones and go get them.
Another example of why driver only operation / driverless trains is not helpful to anybody except those looking to maximise profit at the expense of safety.
Solidarity with all LU staff and RMT members.
On the flipside, any driverless operation is virtually guaranteed to have platform screen doors, which prevents such mishaps in the first place.
@@unclepodger Vic Line is driver less, Yes they have someone sitting in the front but the train is controlled by the signaling system, as is, Hammersmith & city, Northern, None of thoes have PED's
I was going to comment saying, in a few years this will probably be impossible as someone will have decided to cut close to all staff on the tube.
The safety is not a concern since usually driverless systems have a station monitor who can perform an emergency stop if there's need to.
Also, it kinda funny how put "solidarity" into that. Are you more concerned with a safety or some people's paychecks? Either way, they're not going anywhere, Jubilee, Northern, Victoria and Central lines, as well as Circle and central sections of Met, District and H&C lines are basically driverless (they use ATO which is basically the same thing, with only difference that it require supervision), yet the drivers are still there.
This video feels like a 90 second ad for “The Flatshare” streaming on Paramount+ now
Lots of passenger eyes will be digging in the back of that guy's head right there.
Some are miserable, some are genuinely nice.
Safety first ✅️
Superb. That was a tiny vignette of what civilisation looks like.
Love that the driver is just wearing a casual black hoodie XD
There is a lot more organisation behind the scenes for this procedure. It’s only authorised if it can be done without access to the track and will not cause a significant delay. The driver is notified in advance that his train will be used. Very rarely is it done during the peak and occasionally it has to be done during engineering for safety reasons. Tbh, It can’t be that difficult for people to not drop stuff on the track!
That one large gap due to a platform curving: am I a joke to you?
I mean... It is rare for stuff to get dropped down the gap but some people do have arthritis, causing their hand to drop something at the worst spot. I'm unsure how it was a child's bag but still. It's possible, even unintentionally.
As an ex driver I'd say that's a minimal delay, be covered by a shorter lay over at the destination
Anything that stops trains is bad news, all the trains behind it are halted too,, can cause additional problems with people panicing on hot , stuffy crowded trains. Passenger information is key. Its very unsual to stop the service during traffic hours, items usually have to be retreived during engineering hours unless there is a definate safety usse to trains, like something fouling the rails or likely to operate a tripcock. Rubbish blown into tunnels where there are points can foul the blades and really foul up the service so its a delicate call on the part of the traffic controller as to whether suspend the service for retreval.
thank you for making my job and helping make the science lesson. i appreciate what happened to
Beautiful images from the subway!
if there's staff around and responding that quickly... which is rare at a London station
Imagine dropping something on the gaps of the JLE when boarding 😂
-Mev
I imagine the odd phone slips down there. let me know if you try it. Ill bring my phone and film the response
@@littlewickhamtrolleysMy guess is they would manually release the platform edge doors somehow, and then do exactly the same as here
@@Lift.Tracker they wouldnt it would get retrived when the trains have finished running
We go down in the night when trains don’t run to retrieve it on the JLE.
@@flightsimmer9809 @AlexMetroman That’s interesting. Why’s that? Why can’t they just manually release the doors?
I’d have thought that they would’ve made the doors easy to reset afterwards, but I guess they aren’t then.
I believe she said "Hi, I want to retrieve the item, can I have the key for my protection"
You mean the answer isn't to immediately jump on the tracks and retrieve the item yourself?
You are allowed to do that provided you’re immune to death from electrocution. If you don’t have proof of that then they won’t let you.
@@CycolacFan at what point is it no longer your task to reach down and get it. Here the live rails are not within reaching distance.
@@eswnl1 in the UK everyone’s arms are telescopic to a distance of 11 feet.
I would strongly not recommend trying that.
@@eswnl1 at the point where you drop it!!! You should NEVER go down on the track to retrieve items dropped. If you lost your footing or couldn't get back up onto the platform a train isn't likely to stop before it dissects your very flimsy body. These machines take some stopping and unless the driver is aware that the train needs to stop short then the braking will have been judged to stop in the normal place and you may not be seen until it is too late to save your life. The rails are a dangerous environment for the untrained. STAY ON THE PLATFORM!
Here in Sydney Australia we do something similar EXCEPT the train is stopped on the approach end of the platform irrespective of where the dropped item is located. Also items are never retrieved during peak hour.
It makes sense to stop the train and get rid of the bag, if it got caught on the bottom of the train and wrapped around a wheel, it might cause problems with a train.
Nice footage, nice to know theres a procedure for that.
There’s a procedure for everything
I assume staff see from a CCTV system that something has been dropped on the tracks,rather than a member of the public having to find a member of staff to tell them.
London underground is very beautiful
It’s a miracle the parents didn’t just try and get it themselves. Such is the world of entitlement
I finally know why they say "mind the gap", because you have stations on a bend and the trains do not cover it.
I have only ever been to straight stations.
Well done station people. I presume that was the master key the driver handed to the station person to ensure the train wouldn't move. I wonder if you could do that with ATO?
See no reason why not with ATO, at least in the way it's done on the underground, because LUL currently uses semi-automatic ATO (train driving automatic being babysat by the driver). But DLR would be an interesting one!
@@jess.hawkins With ATO the driver would remove the RLK 22 key which selects forward.
It's like a door key.
I think it's RLK 22 it's 5 years since I've driven a Northern Line train!
Where ATO is in play the driver would be asked to approach the next platform in manual and stop where required by station staff. Then they’d fully secure the train and remove the train key before handing it to station staff.
Actually the person with the lamp showed no signals at all.
Great video!
Interesting, thank you!
I am honestly stunned on the fact the metro driver was wearing normal civilian clothing, I thought he would have a hi-vis jacket or some sort of uniform. Still a pretty good video though
On Manchester trams the drivers have to wear hi vis when riding on the tram as a passenger, or when they have to get out of the team for any work related reason. When driving most of them remove it, so I am guessing that's allowed as so many of them do so.
Practice is the same on Network Rail for drivers and guards: they put on hi vis if there's any need to inspect the outside of the train, for example, but I've never seen than in hi vis when checking tickets (though they are in uniform then).
I'm guessing that the rules are similar on the Underground and that the driver had a hi vis jacket somewhere nearby
It's freezing cold being a tube train driver. They are meant to wear a high vis or high vis clothing but you can wear a coat or jumper (during winter months) as long as it isn't restrictive and keeps you and your hands warm. Or, he may also have taken it off before he appeared, or he's just a reckless person who cares for no one's safety.
He's sat in the cab the hell does he need hi-vis on for?
@@trueriver1950 oh ok that makes sense
@@tgm9991 I thought a uniform would have been a requirement
It's like when you want to eject a thumb drive. You have to wait for the message to appear on the screen to safely remove.
This is why you stand BEHIND the line. The line is a Safety Measure to prevent you from dropping your belongings, falling onto the tracks, and more importantly; from getting hit by an incoming train.
The parent/career(s) of that child need to be warned! You need to pay attention to your children, especially in a place like a Train Station that has live Train Lines running through them.
You forgot about that huge gap, didn't ya?
🙋♀️🇦🇺 nice video.
That's the platform I use to get home. Glad it wasn't me that dropped it :D
Well done!
Educational, thankyou
Is Flat Share a good show/movie? looks good for some reason
I hate it! When they rush by! Trains every few minutes! Without these people, NO TRAINS WOULD RUN
they’re rlly nice i lost my shoe at barking and they said i had to wait til no more trains were running so i went home with one shoe on and had to come back the next day as they only retrieved it at 1am
when you drop punctuality, how do you pick it up?
The safest way to retrieve something from the track is to firstly remove shoes and socks for more purchase, jump down then straddle the track so both feet are firmly on each rail , then keeping the back straight and bend at the knees as you pick up the object. Oh and of course take the keys off the driver first !
With your legs spread out like that you'll need a Y shaped coffin.
Now I know what you're all thinking.
What was in his white bag?
My guess is a model of a London underground train and some tampons.
Loool how’s the driver just driving off at the end 😂😂😂💀
Good saftey always comes first most important thing we got
Good safety carried out efficiently and simply like this is just beautiful
A world where EVERYBODY is doing something so critically important, like coffees, pilates classes, meetings, Jo's leaving do, and ignoring everything related to their safety. But because they get paid too much for their lowly output, they have to be seen as above it.
We need these people to have stupid accidents for us, so we can remain safe. Top tip, stand right on the edge of the platform and you can get to A and E first.
to the people asking what he hands her, read the other comments and/or watch/listen to the video you can clearly hear the female asking to have the key for her protection
Respect
Hooray!
Wow.
What is the exact item the driver exchanges with station staff.
I’m no expert, but I play a bit of train simulator. I believe it’s a brake key. Without the key, the brakes are automatically set to full.
It’s the direction selector leaver it looks like a very fat 2 prong fork, to “open up “ a cab end you must insert the fork push down and turn
@@daikicipolloni3151 Sounds right. This is probably similar to lockout-tagout. With the brake key missing, the train can't move, and therefore it prevents an accident by miscommunication. Once the 'item retrieval operator' gets the item from the line, they can return the key. In electrical and mechanical work, lockout-tagout padlocks are used for a similar purpose.
The key of doom
@@daikicipolloni3151 Exactly that! 👍
An extremely large train but it still requires the bloke to start it with a key like he would with a tiny car :P
Not exactly, it's the reverser selector, sorta like the transmission selector in an automatic car.
The train has a cab at each end. The "key" system is actually designed, I think, to make sure that the train can only be driven from one cab at any one time.
@@trueriver1950 more than that, on this stock it also controls the air supply used to release the westinghouse brake and actuate the trains control governor without which the motors will not engage
They should use diesel trains so they don't have to worry about the electrified rails 🤣
Battery trains: what the fuck you say man
That dude kinda looks like eminem
What if that item is a person or relative? Which is the live track?
She could stop the train with just her stare.
Never seen that in real life. Nice!
For reference: Making other tube users more than 0.2 seconds later than usual is a crime in London, punishable by stern looks, pursed lips, and occasionaly thin smiles. Yeah. I do not kid. You don't want to go there. If you're very lucky, someone might even call you a name, or apologise passive-aggressively, but that would break standard 'no-interaction' protocols and the last thing we want is for civil society to break down completely over a bag.
"Eh. I ain't to worried about it."
Hello I dropped my Lego sculpture down there. Can the staff please stop the train and collect all those pieces while everyone waits?
Tube Efficiency
The Bro and Sis do the work, and the burly English just stand there but be sure she is the boss. So typical 😂
I thought there would be applause or cheering when the bag was recovered 😄
Nah people were probably annoyed about the train delay lol
Nope this is London and you will be heavily resented for taking a even a few seconds or minutes out of someones day. When I was around 18 I worked in a Supermarket and someone had a seizure in the aisle and split their head open on the floor when they fell and started bleeding. I saw people literally step over them and continue shopping rather than give up a minute of their day to get help. It was genuinely shocking.
Living in London you do become very desensitised to the suffering of others. Could be the same for most major cities I don’t t know.
@@plantpoweredpear3688 that’s sad
@@theghostofsabertache9049 😀😀😀
@@plantpoweredpear3688 😃😃😃
In India, we just jump down to the tracks and retrieve our fallen article quickly before a train hits us.
These two ladies are not to be messed with although I'm sure they pretend not to look when kids jump the gates.
ik this couldn't ever happen in philadelphia bc there would first have to be SEPTA workers in the station for this to even happen
So, that's how you do it.
Not something you should be doing unless your trained to do so keep safe people 🙏 ✌ 🕊
LUL Platform Staff - Eh wagawan, give me yo master key!
Doesn't jack the train but retrieves bag
Driver - Safe ting fam!
This scenario was not included in the TSW3 update!
Everyone discussing how the bag was picked up.. but how did it end up there in the first place?!
I’m presuming it was whipped off of the owner by the air flow from the previous train leaving..?
I had assumed it had dropped while they were getting off a train. The gap at Waterloo is pretty big as the platform is on quite a curve.
reckon i'd be a little embarrassed if i'd dropped my shopping on the tracks thus inconveniencing lots of people.
I tried this the other day, but the driver wont give me the keys
Can't wait to try this
Step 1: Get the tampon stick.
driver has opps
If this happens in India the staff will just dive on the rails, pick the stuff with their hands and jump on the platform within the timeframe of the train's stoppage.
I clapped it here. These people just looked at it
The man was driving the train.
And?
@@spacehopper999 The man was driving the train.
And?
Is this a line from a book for kids just learning to read?
Why is the train driver like that? His head is odd. Is he unwell?
would this cause intense delays on the Piccadilly line
Hmm, I don't think it could affect the Piccadilly line at all.
Good
人間が粘着テープで貼られているのかと思いました！😳
what so everyones day gets delayed because a child dropps a bag?
what if its further back? I DON'T NEED SLEEP I NEED ANSWERS!
Wasnt expecting some geezer in a tracksuit to be driving the train 🤣
I thought that but I'm sure there was a reason.
If that had happened in America there would have been whoops and hollering, whistles and clapping as if they had just pulled a baby from a pram that had fallen onto the tracks seconds before the train struck.
Don't forget The donut cheeseburgers AK-47 s and mobility scooters Yee haw 🤠
Wait, I remember this
У сотрудников нет формы. Стоят в леднике и все. Одеты свободно. Кроссовки, шортики. Мне нравится эта европейская свобода
What was that sound that happened when the key was removed and re-inserted?
I would guess it is air pressure in the braking system, like an emergency brake application
@@littlewickhamtrolleysthank you
The sliding window in the train looked like something from mid last century. No keeping the breeze out for the driver, with that home made design. Hopefully for the driver, there's no extreme weather conditions ☃️🥵 in that part of the world.
Dropped my earpod once on to the tracks ... Pulled out my measure tape with magnetic end bit out ofa tool bag and got my stuf back in seconds ...
your gonna give them your control key ?? what if they lose it or they drop it ?
then your build up the break pressure again and release the air brakes. too much NYC mta does not do that we just stop the train and turn off the engine.