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- John & Nigel from Peter Tyson Carlisle build the very special edition Linn Sondeck LP12 50. Sit back, relax and enjoy......
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro & History
01:09 - Component List
01:38 - Special Edition Changes
02:02 - Mounting Components
04:27 - LoveFrom
04:49 - Build Continued
07:41 - Final Adjustments
10:37 - The Finished LP12 50
11:29 - Nigel's Thoughts
12:05 - 1974 Linn Sondek LP12
12:29 - Final Words - Věda a technologie
Great to see Nigel looking fit and well and still working on the Sondeks. It’s 30 years since I was a Saturday boy at the Abbey Street branch. Still got my LP12 that I bought then too
Superb presentation John. There is nothing nicer to look at than a well built turntable and arm. The engineering that has gone onto this is amazing. The tolerances in machining are un believable. These will last for decades if looked after and serviced regularly. Well done John and well done Linn.
Friends would tell me I was mad spending out on a Linn Sondek and how it can't make that much difference. I would start a demonstration by taking the platter off because when you put the centre spinal down it takes a long time for it to sink into position. The precision is so high that the air becomes a cushion to the very heavy platter slowing the decent into position. None of my friends would ever consider spending that kind of money and less so at today's prices. Most gave up record collections 25 years ago and have no hi-fi now.
I got my first Linn Sondek in 1980 with Ittok and Asak. In 1990 I went to get some of the upgrades on offer. The hi-fi shop would fit all the updates which would take a month or I could collect a brand new Sondek in three days (set up and soak tested). So I part exchanged my old Linn and for the odd £2000 got a new one with Ekos and Troika. 32 years later I return it for a second service (first was just new belt and some TLC, replaced hinge) fitting new bearings, a two speed motor (I know 33 and 45 at the press of a button like on my old Dasette from 1961) and changed the 32 year old cartridge to a Krystal for roughly the same outlay as I spent to buy it in 1990. I could have had more upgrades but had those that were most needed and gave the most improvement. If I still had the 1980 Linn Sondek it too could be updated to the same level, although after 42 years I am not sure what would have been left of the original.
For the service and new cartridge cost of over £2000 there are many choices of highly rated new models but they are still not a Linn Sondek. If I were to sell this configuration I might expect to get around £4000 which numerically is every penny I spent out on it over the passed 35 years.
Great story of yours. I have just recently changed my Turntable to a dare I say it, a Rega 50th Anniversary P3 from a Linn Basik with Akito Tonearm from 1993. The Linn still works, but I fancied something new.
I have a Hifi Magazine from 94 and there is an article comparing an original LP12 with the latest model. The latest model was much improved, but the original still gave a lot.
The dealer I got the Rega from also had a couple of LP12 in the showroom.
Having both Linn and Rega as British Manufacturers makes me proud to be British. If I had the funds, a LP12 would be a strong consideration.
I enjoy had my LP12 since 1989 & it still works perfectly… bravo Linn. Almost had a heart attack looking at the price of the 50th anniversary version!!! I’m sure it’s a wonderful thing to own but that’s nuts
Congratulations to those that can afford the eye watering price, what a stunning piece of hi-fi love it in white
Great vlog guys, I bought a Ariston RD80 SL around 1979 after a comparison with the linn, I personally thought it sounded very slightly better, but the linn has stood the test of time, what a fabulous tt.
I remember back in the 80’s.. New HiFi Sound magazine. Rather tongue in cheek advice about fitting a fairly expensive cartridge. (Tighten the bolts until it cracks then back off a quarter turn!). Needles to say the next months letter page had only one subject 😂😂
Excellent
I picked mine up used, older version. Grace tone arm. I have a SoundSmith Ruby on it and it sounds great.
If you’ve got an old one and you’re balancing the springs from underneath and you don’t have a jig, Heinz bean cans under each foot so that you can get underneath is the way many users do it.
Excellent video, thank you.
It has to be Heinz.....they sound better! 😁- John
Does it work with Aldi Essentials Baked Beans? ... I can't afford Heinz, because I've spent all my money on a record player!
At a push if that's you're only option. Just make sure nobody sees you do it. - John
@@marcse7en @Peter-Tyson That’s like wiring with Van Damme.
My LP-12 was built at the "new" factory in 1988...Still in use today.If I need work on my deck Thomas O'Keefe @ Overture Audio in Ann Arbor Michigan is The BEST
1974 linn Export LP12 here. Completely unmodified. Wouldn’t change it! Wish we could find a new smoke tint dust cover though after dropping it chipped the front corner. Honestly had that not happened iy would still look new.
@TheDjcarlos67 - If no service work has been done since 1989, it might still sound good to you but doesn’t mean it’s working properly.
Things to consider: the power supply caps are probably rather shot if it’s the internal Valhalla supply. They *do* likely need to be changed after round 20? years. The springs might be worn…the tonearm could have bearings issues and so on. Stuff wears out as the stylus on your cartridge does.
Car analogies can be great for other things. Think of your Linn the same as you would a car. It will still run seemingly fine if 2 of 12 cylinders are dead..it gets fixed and you then and only then notice a difference
Linn owner of 20+ years with a few upgrades over the years that made a huge difference.
Nice video thanks. 1 question: many years ago I used to work in a shop that sold these and they said if you touch the platter (inner or outer) it would leave oily finger marks which in time could affect the finish. So we always used a duster when handling them. If this just “flannel” or does the finger prints not affect the finish anymore?
There is a bit of truth in that, there is a lacquer on the platter, if cleaning products are used, that lacquer is at risk of being stripped off. That is when fingerprints will become an issue. As long as no chemicals are used to clean it you'll be fine. - John
Extremely intrigued by the four bolt mounted tonearm base on the Keel. Was not expecting that.
Nigel mentioned that to me but I didn't get it on camera. It's a more rounded shape on the special edition deck so a new base is very tightly bolted onto the Keel 50 in the factory. There is no difference in performance, just a different design. -John.
@@Peter-Tyson The intriguing bit is that it is bolted at all. On the regular Keel the arm base is all one piece of metal with the arm board/sub-chassis
Okay, I’ll try listening with the lid off. As usual, there are forums full of differing opinions but I’ll go with this chap.
Give it a try and see what you think. If you can't hear a difference just leave it on and close the lid. - John
Are those WERA tools that are supplied with the turntable?
But I have to ask... would it be as good as my old Dansette of the 1950s?!
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say yes 😁 - John
@@Peter-Tyson Thanks for your honesty, John. I shall save my £50-grand then and buy a lifetime's supply of jellybeans, instead!
A wise investment indeed...... - John
I would’ve liked to see how a real pro mounted the cartridge on the tonearm, as I have quite an expensive one coming soon and I’m really bad at it. My hands are so big and I’ve been known to destroy cartridges in the past because they’re so small and delicate. I’m actually quite nervous about attempting it this time to be honest.
All you need is 3 hands and microscope eyes....easy. Or someone like Nigel to do it for you! - John
How much it cost to buy the chassis and bearing what is the chassis made from cast iron?
The LP12 Keel is machined from a single billet of aluminium. petertyson.co.uk/linn-lp12-keel-sub-chassis-upgrade
Here is the Karousel bearing petertyson.co.uk/linn-karousel-bearing
There are more links in the description from the video. - John
Wow.... Gorgeous but @ $60K, it seems a bit pricey to me.... Makes the Rega Naiad @ $50K, limited to 50ish seems like a much better "value".
I've just discovered how expensive ia this version. 50000- 60000 its uber expensive. High end audio today is pure luxury for rich people. And speculation
You even get German screwdrivers!
He has not revealed the shape in which he applies the belt, did he?
Pickle ...always pickle 🥒 🙂 - John.
@@Peter-Tyson thanks!
Pickle or pear? Which is it? Sorry... I've not head enough coffee yet
Pickle 🥒 - John.
@@Peter-Tyson Thank you sir