Since I initially forgot to add the scene with Beatrice demanding Bojack sing the lollipop song, here’s an edit with it added in: czcams.com/video/VAcrtTZO8yE/video.html
“You give those people what they want” gets a WHOLE lot darker when you remember Sarah Lynn was being sexually abused at such a young age and it had such an impact on her lifestyle...
@@narlabegins its heavily implied that Sarah Lynn was sexually abused by her bear step-father as he was a "photographer". She once said that she knew what bear fur tasted like.
@@mackedee9065 And not just any photographer - her stepfather's character design strongly resembles Terry Richardson, a photographer who has multiple allegations of sexual assault against him, some of which are currently being investigated.
You know that drug they give to alcoholics, so every time they try to have an alcoholic drink they become violently sick? This episode is to suicidal people what that drug is to alcoholics.
@@catofthenight8306 you obviously haven't seen the show if you think Sarah Lynn's legacy was just being a drug addict.. it's well established that she was a successful music artist and in the View from Halfway Down she even said she had a song of hers making its way to Mars..
Ugh... The realization when Sarah Lynn sang about "They put your face on shrines and giant signs, a thousand feet tall" and the knowledge that her mother used even her death for advertising is just.... that hurts, man. It's like she never will find peace. Not even in death.
Sarah didn’t go straight into the door. She waited. She waited for Bojack to get her help. He instead made fake calls and waited 17 minutes. And then she goes through the door
When she is about to go in she exhales and looks down then dives down not finishing the song. One could also argue that she stopped fighting and accepted death. Finally deciding not to dance anymore
When she is about to go in she exhales and looks down then dives down not finishing the song. One could also argue that she stopped fighting and accepted death. Finally deciding not to dance anymore
The "Don't stop dancing" ideal, I believe originally came from his mother, when she wanted to do the dance, saying thst putting on a show was the only thing he was good for. Then, it was influenced by Secretariat's speech. No matter what happens, you have to keep doing what makes sense was BoJack's interpretation of it's meaning. He later pushed it on to Sarah Lynn. After she died, he tried justifying himself in his drugged out conscience. "Life is a show, leave people with a smile when you die." Years later, after maturing, he accepts his mistakes. In his head, Sarah Lynn's life was ruined by this ideal. And he's right.
And the Prickly Muffin It's how he called Sarah in the show, she have a sexual song named like that, and i think that song also have some bits of this one, i'm not sure
not gonna lie- these "final performances" really got to me, but the thing that hit the hardest was finding out that bojack waited *seventeen minutes* before calling for an ambulance for sarah lynn. and that she died at the hospital. makes you physically ill.
I don't agree on that Bojack was somewhat guilty of waiting that time, they both were drunk and high and he just panicked. I felt that if Bojack didn't invited her to party that night she would anyway died in a similar situation. Don't get me wrong, I just think that Bojack was lucky for the sake of the narrative of the story, but he could also died that night and it would make sense too.
@@TheDevlain She did say her only reason for getting sober was, because she heard that if you relapse the high is ten times better. Also I get what you're saying. I mean how many times do you hear of a hit and run because the driver panicked. Bojack already had trouble confronting himself, so not to confront the police is "natural" for him. It doesn't surprise me he tried to cover his tracks and procrastinate getting help.
@@TheDevlain nah, he clearly sobered up enough not only to leave the place, but to use both phones to fabricate his alibi... If he just run away or felt in stupor or even pretend that "everything is fine" that would be understandable. But have a clear mind to make a call from her phone instead of calling for help. Feels like a crime, not just immoral thing to do.
@@TheDevlain he was sober enough to cover his tracks. he faked a phone call. he faked an alibi. that's not "panicking"- he was only looking out for himself. he thought of himself and himself alone. and assuming that sarah lynn "would have died anyway" is a huuuuuge leap for the simple fact that we have no way of knowing that. she was nine months sober. bojack asked a recovering addict outright to get trashed with him. he supplied the heroin. the entire bender, he was only thinking of himself and doing what he wanted to do. only at the very end of it did he finally agree to do what sarah lynn had wanted to do all along- go to the planetarium. and not even then could he act selflessly.
ZatWonGuy so what im hearing is, to write a masterpiece, you need to be on a shit ton of drugs? good to know. //edit: this is a joke please dont take this seriously and dont romanticize the whole “tortured artist” mentality please stay safe and sober yall
I think it also signifies his early love for musicals when he was a kid. He wanted to be a musical broadway actor or at least work in the musical industry but his mother told her he wouldn't get anywhere. So tho I don't think or I dont't know if the creators itended this to be the case, but maybe it was his subcouncious doing this musical number like he always desired to do.
Isn’t it scary that no one ever sang this song?... It’s literally Bojack’s guilty conscience that has manifest itself as a song, hunting him back... Because he taught both Sarah Lynn and Gina Cazador, that nothing is more important than fame and attention... and the reason why Bojack has that ideology, is because he wanted attention from his parents, he wanted their love... But they didn’t give him that, instead... he found the love and attention on the set... on the stage... on the wall of fame.... But... he also knows that their love is fake... yet it’s the best that there is...
@@Zilverister97 Ellipses have a meaning and use just like any other form of punctuation. Why are you placing them so many times and defeating the purpose of them?
I cried when Sarah Lynn fell through the door The moment of impact with the music buildup combined with the realization that’s the last time we’d probably see Sarah Lynn and her relatable fear of death/failure is so emotionally well executed in every way possible
@@nasa3983 her last performance mimics her life. The innocence of her childhood, the raunchiness of her career and her loneliness near the end. Even how she leaves the stage mimics her death. Bojack is there as she literally takes her last breath, then she's gone, to Bojacks horror
@@yoshinpixels9924 Idk if it counts but the moon was behind her in the whole scene and she died in a planetarium, I'm probably grasping at straws with that though-
She actually died in the hospital. She was still alive. Bojack could’ve saved her if he only called for help that moment, but he waited too long to try and cover his ass.
@@bethanyoneal5789 If it makes you feel better, this line doesn't confirm that there is no afterlife. Instead, this is about how Bojack and many people, in fact, act like there's "always a second chance." They use the potential of the afterlife as just an extension of life, that they can use it to say that they're sorry and make up for past wrongs. But even if there is something after death, that is not what it's for. It is not life as we know it, it doesn't mean you will have a second chance with people you have wronged.
@@carlycrays2831 When I first saw this scene it got me in a very particular mood. It hit me hard until I thought about the line repeatedly. It doesn't imply that there is no afterlife. It definitely suggests that Bojack's chances of becoming a good person (the central theme of the show) is over. It comes to an end when he dies.
I think that original speech is Bojack completely summed up: he’s trying in his own way to be good and to give her advice he thinks will help her, but he’s so broken and damaged that though he tries to help, he can’t help but to send her down a slippery slope.
I don't know. I think that interpretation is a bit generous to Bojack. He is definitely broken, but I do not think this is him attempting to be good. I see a man bitter about his upbrining and life in general. A man who took that bitterness and resentment out on a child without consideration of how it would affect her. I think his motives were purely selfish.
@@rachelyoung1460 he was selfish, but i think it was a subconscious evil, he was trying to save his career, but he was also trying to help her have strength for the show without realizing just how precious her childhood was to her... i haven't even watched the show cause it looks too sad, he has become his character from some old show and it has consumed him, hes almost like a child actor or someone who spent his life trying to become a actor... he was being selfish, but he was also being evil, and he was strangely enough trying to help her stand up and abandon the parts of life that often make a actors job so complex, to abandon their personal life. and that was simultaneously evil, corruptibly selfish, but strangely, from his at that point twisted view and in the moment focus on what needed to be done, help her career and make him a even more valuable actor in the same move... but that's why it was evil and wrong, it wasn't purely for her future, it was also for his benefiting from being able to give her help, and the final bit of that is, he was trying to talk her into abandoning the trust and goals that everyone has a child, family and friends, trusting your parents, seeking your friends approval, those can lead acting children astray. parents that want to put their children out there for profit may not be interested in the kids best interests, or perhaps they feel this is the only way to save their kids and families future, its complex, and actors have been known to lead each other astray and to be used by so called friends for social standing and power... so he was evil and corrupt, but from his twisted view in the moment, it was the world he lived and didn't realize he shouldn't drag others into it but should be seeking ways to clean it or bring himself out of it.
Rachel Young he was selfish, but i think it was a subconscious evil, he was trying to save his career, but he was also trying to help her have strength for the show without realizing just how precious her childhood was to her... i haven't even watched the show cause it looks too sad, he has become his character from some old show and it has consumed him, hes almost like a child actor or someone who spent his life trying to become a actor... he was being selfish, but he was also being evil, and he was strangely enough trying to help her stand up and abandon the parts of life that often make a actors job so complex, to abandon their personal life. and that was simultaneously evil, corruptible selfish, but strangely, from his at that point twisted view and in the moment focus on what needed to be done, help her career and make him a even more valuable actor in the same move... but that's why it was evil and wrong, it wasn't purely for her future, it was also for his benefiting from being able to give her help, and the final bit of that is, he was trying to talk her into abandoning the trust and goals that everyone has a child, family and friends, trusting your parents, seeking your friends approval, those can lead acting children astray. parents that want to put their children out there for profit may not be interested in the kids best interests, or perhaps they feel this is the only way to save their kids and families future, its complex, and actors have been known to lead each other astray and to be used by so called friends for social standing and power... so he was evil and corrupt, but from his twisted view in the moment, it was the world he lived and didn't realize he shouldn't drag others into it but should be seeking ways to clean it or bring himself out of it.
Something I find interesting about this song, is it never ends on "Until the curtain Falls." It always ends on "Until the curtain..." Almost like it's symbolising that the curtain never falls, so celebrities always have to put on a show for everyone.
Other Commenters already mentioned it - Sarah Lynn's Mother is profiting from her, even after her death, be it sueing Bojack or making Advertisement with Sarah Lynn's Image. So from that point...for Sarah Lynn, the Curtain never falls.
Well the first time it ended with “nothings certain but the curtain” meaning nothing is certain in life except for the fact that it’s gonna end and that was the ending, there wasn’t really room for a “falls” but on the second one it makes sense for Sarah Lynn
But he didn't even really try and be a good mentor. He just chose the easiest routes to do what he thought she needed, but he also used her to satisfy his own urges and needs
@Águila701 I don't think she was scared of him. Sara Lynn seemed to not be afraid of anything. Even Bojacks image of her in that episode she just flopped right into the dark door without giving it much thought. I think she looked up to him and he unknowingly took advantage of that. He was in a position to help her and failed her as hard as he could. I think he wanted her to do drugs with him because he needed to know someone else was as damaged as he was, and he was willing to risk her life for that. When the chips were down he failed to protect her in what was probably the most desperate hour of his life and sent himself in a spiral of depression and addiction.
I hate it when grim advice like that turns out to be right. In Sarah Lynn's case, depending what was going on in her life outside of Horsing Around, it may have been true that her fans of Horsing Around who don't know her personally would be the best friends she will ever have. April 13, 2020, 4:56pm
He used the same type of advice Secretariat used. Secretariat said to never stop running Bojack said never stop dancing Both pieces of advice are terrible but so very relatable it’s scary
@@conorscott430 It couldv'e been possible that Secretariat did say that, but because Bojack wasn't able to hear all of it, due to his parent's arguing, 'don't stop running' was all that he heard.
0:03 Sarah Lynn’s little “ aw thank you” made me sad she was so innocent and then she was corrupted by the people in her life, and prime example of this is how she was 9 months sober and then bojack pulled her back in to addiction immediately and took her on a bender that ended her life
@@Emerly yeah who knows what would’ve happened if he didn’t call her up to her party she could’ve stayed sober, unfortunately she never got the chance to turn her life around
The worst part? He goes to the house WITH Sarah Lynn!!! He literally brought her to his death party with him because he’s the reason she’s dead! The entire second to last episode is 110% metaphors from start to finish
When Sarah Lynn reprimands Bojack she mentions that "it's her time"- similar to what would be said during an A A meeting. It's rather grim seeing how Bojack got her on a bender when she was 9 months sober
People always mention that Sarah Lynn was only staying clean so she could get an awesome high later on. But the fact is, she was staying clean despite being constantly surrounded by drugs. She was going to meetings and had even recorded a song for a hit movie that would go on to win the Oscar for best song. She was genuinely doing really good. Had Bojack never gone to her for that bender, she probably would have survived.
It's that, but I also see the connection of "it's her time" as something people say when someone dies or has died. Like to me she is implying that it's her time to go now, his time in the "spotlight"(which leads to death as becomes clear the more people act out their act) will come later
@@carlycrays2831 well it was part of being sober, but getting high is the only reason she sobered up. If the quote "all your actions are caused by you" is applicable to Bojack, it should also to her. She had the most tragic fate out of all the characters in the show it's saddening
I just imagine Sarah Lynn telling herself “don’t stop dancing” over and over for 17 minutes just waiting to come back It was as if when she fell into the darkness she was giving up because she was certain she wouldn’t make it
I believe it may just be the needle on a metronome. Since metronomes are used to help keep a beat. If you recall, she didn’t shoot up heroin or use a needle. As bojack said “I’m not going to shoot up heroin with you sarah lynn, we can snort it like sophisticated adults.”
@@angelizdaboss I think it's meant to be the needle dropping on a record, because next line is "the music starts.' That is to say it can definitely be a double- or triple-meaning since the show's writers are so damn clever
I was actually sympathetic and forgiving to almost everything Bojack did...except when they revealed that Bojack waited 17 minutes before calling the ambulance...I mean 1 minute can make the difference between someone dying or surviving let alone 17...who knows what would e happened if he called them as soon as he could....I can’t forgive him for that...I get it he had a bad childhood but that’s no excuse for what he did...just don’t be a shitty person...I still wish they expanded on Sarah’s sexual abuse as a child but I guess...that’s too much man...
tbh I didn't even process that he left her for 17 minutes until way way later (to be fair I didn't process the first viewing of the final episodes properly in general)-- n when it finally clicked i was just. WOW. You could've saved her life but instead you waited so you could cover your ass for whatever reason. and you claimed to love sarah lynn like a daughter.... despicable.
Not to mention- Sarah Lynn died at the hospital. Not the planetarium. Meaning had she arrived even a few minutes earlier it might have been enough time to save her
I don't think he knew she was still alive, it seemed like he was trying to say that after the accusation before he got side-tracked. On top of that in the state he was in we know he wasn't processing time like he should have, those seventeen minutes might have seemed like seconds to him because as he says he was really strung out. I don't think Bojack would have left her there alone if he knew she was still alive.
@@tonygordon7571 This is absolutely plausible but the show is clearly pointing out the fact that the reason that he tried covering his tracks is because he puts himself first, and that's what killed sarah. Yes, he was high but lucid enough to call himself from sarahs phone to make it seem like he found her like that. Him being high might be why he thought she was immediately dead but him being a shitty person is what definitely contributed to her death
Bojacks mom gave him the same talk under a table when he was young and he didn't want to sing the lollipop song. The repetition of trauma and toxic patterns
I just realized Gina says “Life is a never ending show, my friend” while Sarah Lynn says “Life is a never ending show, old sport”. I feel like it’s intentional Sarah Lynn doesn’t call him a friend after what he did to her 😢
What sucks is that there are child stars that have fallen like Sarah Lynn. And people who led them there, like Bojack. I’m usually super cynical but I do hope this show spurs people, especially those who are in idolized positions, to be better.
It's true, though. I grew up in that lifestyle...and Bojack really captures the horror that hollywood inflicts on people. Even now, the acquaintances I know who still work in the industry aren't happy. It's very telling that the only characters who achieved a happy ending in the show all left hollywood behind. Charlotte, Diane, even PC stepped back from it all, albeit not completely. Granted we don't know Gina's true fate, but there's nothing to show that she ever overcame her PTSD or reputation for being "difficult", and for all we know, she could become the next Bojack, miserable and alone, with nothing but the hollow adoration of her fans for company. Even Sarah Lynn, at the end, lamented that she spent her life in entertainment, when all she wanted to be was a humble architect. Sometimes I look back and wish I'd kept going, maybe I'd have "made it". But it's pointless to think about things that will never be, and my aforementioned acquaintances all say they wish they could be me, free from all the superficial bullshit they have to uphold every single day, so I guess the grass truly is greener on the other side. I'm grateful for this show, because it pulls back the veneer and shows everybody that the glamour of celebrity is not something that anyone should ever aspire to. Yeah, you may become rich, but the trade off is the cost of your humanity. It's just not worth it.
Wobbles and Bean honestly I look back at myself when I was 10. I wanted to be on Disney channel like the kids I saw on TV. Went and did an audition too. There are good actors that have balanced lives. But holy crap I can’t imagine myself being famous.
I do like how Sarah Lynn’s version reflected her life in a way, or at least the way that Bojack saw it. Her first verse sounded hopeful, like she was dreaming big about the life ahead of her. Which is exactly how she started out as a child actor who didn’t know any better. Then the transition into a techno beat, starting off vulgar with the pole she slid down, and a few of her dance moves. It was very drug like, like a drug trip, and all of that could reflect her adulthood in showbusiness. Then, the last verse. It was very melancholic and quiet, which is exactly how she died in the planetarium. She was tired and even then, was scared of losing her audience that she’d kept for years, hence her panic attack before Bojack took her to the planetarium, and she references that in this verse. Even when she died, she was still with the same person who pretty much ruined her life with his “advice”. She lived by that rule to never stop dancing, and she died because of it too. I also do like how she had the same backdrop as she did in her first verse, since even in the planetarium, she still had a little hope, and she spoke about her own dream. And she was still under Bojack’s influence. I just thought it was a neat pattern, if the writers did that intentionally.
Showstopper: Life is a never-ending show, my friend, A twisting-turning, ever-bending show. The audience is everyone you know, my friend; Leave them with a smile when you go! You can bet, that you're a star, so don't forget How fun you are! Get up there and give it your all And don't stop dancing, don't stop dancing 'til the curtains fall! You are a rotten little cog, mon frère; Spun by forces you don't understand! Living is a bitter nasty slog, mein herr; Why not sell your sadness as a brand? Paint your face and brush your mane and find someplace to cut your pain To portions we can buy at the mall! And don't stop dancing- no you can't stop dancing 'til the curtains fall! Aw shucks! Today's the day you've got the spark and find the way to make your mark and get your tiny name on that wall So don't stop dancing, baby don't stop spinnin'! Don't stop beltin' buddy; now we're winnin'! Grief consumes you but you just keep grinnin'! The ache becomes you and it's just beginnin'! Don't stop dancin' Nothing's certain but the curtain! View From Halfway Down: Life is a never-ending show, old sport. Except the minor detail that it ends. The overture's a lifetime but the show is short, Here with all your family and friends. You run the race, You blurt your lines, they put your face on shirts and shrines, and giant signs a thousand feet tall. And don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing 'til the curtain call. Shows are a never-ending life of course. A silhouette that stays when you are gone. What use is the struggle and the strife, old horse? End it and your legacy lives on. The chatter stops, the crowd departs, a needle drops, the music starts. A song you taught me when I was small. Don’t stop dancing. Don’t stop dancing...
man i cried when sarah lyn sung that... that second to last episode was hard to watch. what makes it worst is when you recall what she was saying earlier in the episode at the dinner table, she literally lived her life following that advice bojack gave her as a kid. Dont stop dancing...
2:00 Just look at the left, there is the scene of Sharona and Bojack discussing about the alcohol that Sarah Lynn drank accidentally on the set. Good ol' foreshadowing
You know, when I heard Sarah Lynn saying "I wanna be an architect" the second time I saw the show, I started crying a lot because of her true dream that never came true... I felt so empty
'A song you taught when I was small, don't stop dancing' I know it's obvious, but Bj gave her the worst advice he ever could. Sarah Lynn didn't deserve any of that
The opening scene is tragic, this is his way of being nice. He was raised in a way which makes that piece of word vomit seem kind and genuine. He is being genuine, he's trying to comfort her, but he doesn't know just how fucked that kind of comforting is
“A song you taught me when I was small” hits hard. It’s the first and last time we hear first person pronouns in both versions - and it feels incredibly intimate. It really cements the parallelisms of their lives.
one thing i dont think we talk about enough is how bojack wasnt even prompted to tell sarah lynn all that in the first place. before i watched the show, i saw that clip out of context and always assumed it was a pep talk gone horribly, horribly wrong, and that he was just trying to help her. but no, she was perfectly fine before he said all of that. poor girl
He probably was strung out on something while filming and took what his mom said when he was under the table as a kid when he didn’t wanna sing the lollipop song.
A show that never lost it's meaning. It never tried to reinvent or pump more life into itself with cheesy plotlines. It knew the story it wanted to tell and it did it. I fucking love this show
Just from listening to ive written out the lyrics for Sarah Lynn’s verse Don’t stop dancing Life is a never ending show old sport Except the minor detail that it ends The overtures a life time But the show is short Here with all your family and friends You run the race You blurt your lines They put your face on shirts and shrines And giant signs a thousand feet tall And don’t stop dancing Don’t stop dancing Till the curtain calls Shows are a never ending life of course A silhouette that stays when you are gone What use is the struggle and the strife, old horse? End it and your legacy lives on The chatter stops The crowd departs A needle drops The music starts A song you taught me when I was small Don’t stop dancing Don’t stop dancing
I love how this show started off as watching a stupid washed up alcoholic deal with rich person problems but turned into something so SO much darker. The whole show hurts me so much every time I watch it, but it's so well orchestrated that I will never stop loving it, and will gladly sit through the pain again and again, because this show is an absolute masterpiece.
It’s really cool how both versions of the song don’t seem to have fulfilling endings, Gina’s song ends with “nothing’s certain but the curtain” which abruptly disrupts the rhythm of the song and Sarah Lynn’s ends with “don’t stop dancing..” and she never finishes even though the next line is an implied “till the curtain falls”. There wasn”t any closure in the endings or in death.
Exactly what it was. Sort of a reflection of how her career went then when she said, “A song you taught me when I was small.”, it was a clear callback to the advice Bojack gave her. Makes it eerie and haunting.
Death would've let him off the hook for his actions. It was good to see an example of what it could look like for someone to receive justice and take responsibility for their actions.
You see how everyone else fell or jumped in the hole with no hesitation,Sara Lynn didn’t do that,she just stared into the pit. it was symbolizing how she still could have lived if bojack called sooner and she wouldn’t need to go inside
It’s really creepy how in Sara Lynn’s performance she values keeping a clean image over life itself. It’s very scary to think what screwed up things led to that. I get that it’s in Bojack’s head, but it’s still crazy.
How Bojack could've saved his ass and Sarah Lynn's at the same time: text 911 from her phone then drive away. Or call 911 from his phone and say she told him where she was and that she overdosed, then drive away.
Sad for this show to be coming to an end. But it was for the best, many shows lose their value, because they make so many seasons to satisfy the viewers. Now this has to be in my all time top 3 series because I related too hard. I'm 15 but my life's full of holes. I lost my dad at 11, and I was lucky to beat a clinical depression in 6 months. I've had multiple injuries which kinda made me relate to Secretariat. I'm mostly bored all year except summer, spring autumn and winter I catch every opportunity to go to a party, because getting drunk is just amazing with friends, and key to meeting new people or eventually love. I'm also addicted to nicotine, and smoke weed from time to time. All in all, this show describes the dark parts of show business and mental illness that us, basic people will never get close to. Sarah Lynn being a child actress portrays that it's basically labor, that will have impact on your entire life. I will miss the show, the happy parts, the dark and sad parts, the cliffhangers, their voices, and most of all, the characters themselves. I'm glad Bojack changed the best he could, Diane & Carolyn got married, todd grew up, and settled with his mom. I hope the show might be picked up again in the future, for now. Let it rest. Hope someone will read this message :)
Im sorry to hear that youve been through a lot man. I know i can relate to this show a lot too, ive had those bad depressive episodes and such too. Hopefully life is looking a little bit better gor you now. Take care
I relate to the show a lot like this as well I’m 17. Depressed and lack will to live. My mother is a psychopath. My parents are separated but still live in the same house because my dad won’t let me be alone with her. But they sleep in separate rooms and fight 24/7. My dads also disabled and my mom is soon moving so I’ll have to take care of him. My mom also acts like she’s high a lot and forced an eating disorder on me. Oh and I’m still in the closet And a lot of other traumatic shit happened to me but it’s left me with reoccurring hallucinations and nightmares to the point that I can’t sleep anymore and my grades started dropping because every day for the last 2 months I’ve slept about 5 hours I was also bullied as a child because I had autism and moved schools each year for my 8th, 9th, and 10th grade But that’s just too much man
@@sagebauland4276 holy shit dude. Man I feel like what I experienced is jackshit to yours. Hope you'll get better and find a solution. We're here for you man :) And don't worry about the closet, as long you don't come from a family with homophobic background you should be good. Eventually move to a friend or relatives house for some time so you can think or something. Best of luck my guy :)
@@sagebauland4276 just came in here to say things get better and all of this happening to you isn't your fault. when youre 18 try your best to get out of there. you don't owe your parents anything, you dont owe anyone anything. just yourself. take care of yourself. i am 32 and i promise you things get better. i come from similar family issues.
The fact he immediately stops and listens to Sarah Lynn when she’s shushes him cause it’s her time- is an odd detail considering he’s reformed at that moment; but in the past dismissed her constantly. Especially on that bender, sheesh.
Did anyone else realise that when Gina sings she says "dont stop dancing till the curtains fall" but when Sarah Lynn sings it she says "Dont stop dancing till the curtain call"? if you're hearing something different correct me but i swear that's what i hear every time
Bojack Horseman deserves SO MUCH more attention. This is one of the best pieces of art and media I have ever seen. Literally a masterpiece. I can't even begin to describe how good it is.
You know, it's amazing that it's legal for kids to be actors. How is that not *child labor?* I didn't know what I was signing up for. I was 3. April 13, 2020, 5:03pm
There's a creepy Easter Egg in this show. In "The View From Halfway Down", Bojack figures out hes dying at the 17 minute mark. The same amout of time he waited to call for the paramedics to save Sarah Lynn. Rewatch that epsode knowing this fact without skipping the intro. It will really sink in how long Bojack was letting her slowly die in order to save himself.
That little twinge in the music which is used often throughout the show like when bojack saw her go through the door is one of my favorite things about bojack. It just perfectly encapsulates how I feel when I see something like that happen or when a certain event transpires
_"Shows_ are a neverending _life,_ of course, A silhouette that stays when you are gone. What use is the _struggle_ and the _strife,_ Old Horse? _End it and your legacy lives on!"_ Whether that's the ghost of Sarah-Lynn or just an image conjured by Bojack's subconscious, that is _really_ grim.
![[I'm the Bad Guy]- Wander over Yonder Song](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xdEo_t-iVbM/mqdefault.jpg)
Since I initially forgot to add the scene with Beatrice demanding Bojack sing the lollipop song, here’s an edit with it added in: czcams.com/video/VAcrtTZO8yE/video.html
“You give those people what they want” gets a WHOLE lot darker when you remember Sarah Lynn was being sexually abused at such a young age and it had such an impact on her lifestyle...
.. oh crap
Wait, what? I don't remember that...
@@narlabegins its heavily implied that Sarah Lynn was sexually abused by her bear step-father as he was a "photographer". She once said that she knew what bear fur tasted like.
Makena Burnham And she said once as a child that her stepdad was in her dressing room “being weird” and no one noticed :(
@@mackedee9065 And not just any photographer - her stepfather's character design strongly resembles Terry Richardson, a photographer who has multiple allegations of sexual assault against him, some of which are currently being investigated.
"A song you taught me when I was small." Oh...
Can be summed up with both Sarah Lynn and Little Bojack when his mom forced him to do the same dance over and over.
Had the exact same revelation.
the cycle continues.
@@Videobot9000 and how his hero said to never stop running, and when he was forced to stop running he killed himself
Am I the only one who remembered that the first time?
Secretariats speech was terrifying
That's the scene that made me sob the most. Many suicide survivors could relate to it.
it made my heart shatter and freaked me out at the same time
I’m used to be a runner and my knee is so fucked up I can’t anymore / I fucking broke down during that speech.
yup don't kill yourself.
You know that drug they give to alcoholics, so every time they try to have an alcoholic drink they become violently sick? This episode is to suicidal people what that drug is to alcoholics.
For some reason I can never get over Sarah Lynn's song. The transition from soft lullaby to techno and haunting is incredible
yess me too, it's horrifying but it just reflects so well of her life and how it abruptly ended
that's how fast her life came to an end
Not to mention, it’s not just any techno song, it’s the background song for her hit album “prickly muffin”!
Dude… everytime I play it back it gives me chills (in a good way)
its a good representative of her suddenly losing her childhood in one go, no slow build up, shes just suddenly fully mature (if im wording that well)
It's kind of sad now that sarah Lynn will be remembered for what bojack did to her rather than her own legacy
QuantumPineapple
What’s even worse is that this happened after she died. Imagine how Gina feels. Once you die, your legacy is out of your hands.
If there's ever a continuation I hope it'll touch on that. Even we, the audience only really get to see her through Bojack's lense.
What legacy? Being a drug addict?
@@catofthenight8306 you obviously haven't seen the show if you think Sarah Lynn's legacy was just being a drug addict.. it's well established that she was a successful music artist and in the View from Halfway Down she even said she had a song of hers making its way to Mars..
@@luisayala5914 LOL I watched the show top to bottom. Perhaps you should rewatch the first season. All people were talking about was her failure.
Sarah Lynn: *does the pop/remix segment*
Me: *sad twerking*
Ruby Relium Lol... sigh :c
hahahaha ha ha ha .... sigh
ok bro
This is my favorite version of this upload strictly because of this comment.
God I’m dying😂
Ugh... The realization when Sarah Lynn sang about "They put your face on shrines and giant signs, a thousand feet tall" and the knowledge that her mother used even her death for advertising is just.... that hurts, man. It's like she never will find peace. Not even in death.
Just like when a real celebrity dies, look at Selena who people keep milking to this day :(
@@chioorochi selena gomez is dead?
@@jonassantoso317 i died lol this is amazing hahha
@Xftbllplyr idk who tht is lol
@@jonassantoso317 you are clealy very young 😅
The fact that Bojack engraved in his mind that he killed her by teaching her to not stop dancing makes that last scene so much harder to watch.
I mean, he technically did kill her.
@@LA-be8fu kinda
The worst part was that Bojack thought he was helping her avoid what he faced as a kid at Beatrice and Butterscotch's hand.
he killed her will almost decades prior to that with that line alone
@@LA-be8fuIf he hadn't the show buisniss did.
Sarah didn’t go straight into the door. She waited. She waited for Bojack to get her help. He instead made fake calls and waited 17 minutes. And then she goes through the door
This show if full of details. Thanks for pointing this out!
When she is about to go in she exhales and looks down then dives down not finishing the song. One could also argue that she stopped fighting and accepted death. Finally deciding not to dance anymore
When she is about to go in she exhales and looks down then dives down not finishing the song. One could also argue that she stopped fighting and accepted death. Finally deciding not to dance anymore
secretariat's "don't stop running" when he answer's bojack's letter also adds a layer to this
He went afraid at the end
The "Don't stop dancing" ideal, I believe originally came from his mother, when she wanted to do the dance, saying thst putting on a show was the only thing he was good for. Then, it was influenced by Secretariat's speech. No matter what happens, you have to keep doing what makes sense was BoJack's interpretation of it's meaning. He later pushed it on to Sarah Lynn. After she died, he tried justifying himself in his drugged out conscience. "Life is a show, leave people with a smile when you die." Years later, after maturing, he accepts his mistakes. In his head, Sarah Lynn's life was ruined by this ideal. And he's right.
add to that extra layer knowing BoJack perceived Secretariat as a father figure to himself
"You run the race"
And the Prickly Muffin
It's how he called Sarah in the show, she have a sexual song named like that, and i think that song also have some bits of this one, i'm not sure
not gonna lie- these "final performances" really got to me, but the thing that hit the hardest was finding out that bojack waited *seventeen minutes* before calling for an ambulance for sarah lynn. and that she died at the hospital. makes you physically ill.
it's only a dollar you ain't special same here I physically cringed when the reveal came. Very unsettling
I don't agree on that Bojack was somewhat guilty of waiting that time, they both were drunk and high and he just panicked. I felt that if Bojack didn't invited her to party that night she would anyway died in a similar situation. Don't get me wrong, I just think that Bojack was lucky for the sake of the narrative of the story, but he could also died that night and it would make sense too.
@@TheDevlain She did say her only reason for getting sober was, because she heard that if you relapse the high is ten times better. Also I get what you're saying. I mean how many times do you hear of a hit and run because the driver panicked. Bojack already had trouble confronting himself, so not to confront the police is "natural" for him. It doesn't surprise me he tried to cover his tracks and procrastinate getting help.
@@TheDevlain nah, he clearly sobered up enough not only to leave the place, but to use both phones to fabricate his alibi... If he just run away or felt in stupor or even pretend that "everything is fine" that would be understandable. But have a clear mind to make a call from her phone instead of calling for help. Feels like a crime, not just immoral thing to do.
@@TheDevlain he was sober enough to cover his tracks. he faked a phone call. he faked an alibi. that's not "panicking"- he was only looking out for himself. he thought of himself and himself alone. and assuming that sarah lynn "would have died anyway" is a huuuuuge leap for the simple fact that we have no way of knowing that. she was nine months sober. bojack asked a recovering addict outright to get trashed with him. he supplied the heroin. the entire bender, he was only thinking of himself and doing what he wanted to do. only at the very end of it did he finally agree to do what sarah lynn had wanted to do all along- go to the planetarium. and not even then could he act selflessly.
Can we take a second to appreciate that since both the songs were in bojacks head he wrote this absolute bop of a song
I too, wish that instead of my mind telling me how shit I am, that it wrote a catchy as heck song about how shit I am.
@@bluebird1914 Too be fair, the first time his brain came up with the song, he was on a fair amount of drugs
ZatWonGuy so what im hearing is, to write a masterpiece, you need to be on a shit ton of drugs? good to know.
//edit: this is a joke please dont take this seriously and dont romanticize the whole “tortured artist” mentality please stay safe and sober yall
@@bluebird1914 I hope you are doing okay now.
I think it also signifies his early love for musicals when he was a kid.
He wanted to be a musical broadway actor or at least work in the musical industry but his mother told her he wouldn't get anywhere.
So tho I don't think or I dont't know if the creators itended this to be the case, but maybe it was his subcouncious doing this musical number like he always desired to do.
Isn’t it scary that no one ever sang this song?... It’s literally Bojack’s guilty conscience that has manifest itself as a song, hunting him back... Because he taught both Sarah Lynn and Gina Cazador, that nothing is more important than fame and attention... and the reason why Bojack has that ideology, is because he wanted attention from his parents, he wanted their love... But they didn’t give him that, instead... he found the love and attention on the set... on the stage... on the wall of fame.... But... he also knows that their love is fake... yet it’s the best that there is...
Why............on earth do you........type with so many....unnecessary.....ellipses?
TheMelon because why not? The better question is why are you so rude?...
@@Zilverister97 Ellipses have a meaning and use just like any other form of punctuation. Why are you placing them so many times and defeating the purpose of them?
TheMelon again, why not?... I choose when I want to use them or not...
TheMelon stop being a hater and let us enjoy and feel bojack
I cried when Sarah Lynn fell through the door
The moment of impact with the music buildup combined with the realization that’s the last time we’d probably see Sarah Lynn and her relatable fear of death/failure is so emotionally well executed in every way possible
Also, she didn't finished her song
Secretariat/Father got me man. THAT WAS ROUGH.
The one that got me the most was when Herb told him “there’s no other side” and merged into the abyss
THATS TOO MUCH MAN!
Interesting emphasis on her taking her last breath.
This song is so hauntingly catchy oof
It reminds me of Judy Garland
Gina's version is stuck in my head.
Gotta love that the Sarah Lynn reprise is backed by the Prickly Muffin instrumental
Reprise version is stuck in my head
@@cookiebandit18 Gina is dressed in the costume Judy wore when she sang and danced to "Get Happy" in _Summer Stock._
We really witnessed Sarah Lynn take her last breath
dimensional demon she was already dead? I don’t understand
@@nasa3983 her last performance mimics her life. The innocence of her childhood, the raunchiness of her career and her loneliness near the end. Even how she leaves the stage mimics her death. Bojack is there as she literally takes her last breath, then she's gone, to Bojacks horror
@@yoshinpixels9924 Idk if it counts but the moon was behind her in the whole scene and she died in a planetarium, I'm probably grasping at straws with that though-
TODD!!! DIDN'T SARAH LYNN DIE RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES?
She actually died in the hospital. She was still alive. Bojack could’ve saved her if he only called for help that moment, but he waited too long to try and cover his ass.
"I'll see you on the other side"
"Oh Bojack, there is no other side"
*TEARS*
Dollteeth I just watched that episode yesterday and I couldn’t sleep.
Really hit hard 😔
That filled me so much existential dread
Bethany O'Neal welcome to the club, sister
@@bethanyoneal5789 If it makes you feel better, this line doesn't confirm that there is no afterlife. Instead, this is about how Bojack and many people, in fact, act like there's "always a second chance." They use the potential of the afterlife as just an extension of life, that they can use it to say that they're sorry and make up for past wrongs.
But even if there is something after death, that is not what it's for. It is not life as we know it, it doesn't mean you will have a second chance with people you have wronged.
@@carlycrays2831 When I first saw this scene it got me in a very particular mood. It hit me hard until I thought about the line repeatedly. It doesn't imply that there is no afterlife. It definitely suggests that Bojack's chances of becoming a good person (the central theme of the show) is over. It comes to an end when he dies.
I think that original speech is Bojack completely summed up: he’s trying in his own way to be good and to give her advice he thinks will help her, but he’s so broken and damaged that though he tries to help, he can’t help but to send her down a slippery slope.
I don't know. I think that interpretation is a bit generous to Bojack. He is definitely broken, but I do not think this is him attempting to be good. I see a man bitter about his upbrining and life in general. A man who took that bitterness and resentment out on a child without consideration of how it would affect her. I think his motives were purely selfish.
@@rachelyoung1460 he was selfish, but i think it was a subconscious evil, he was trying to save his career, but he was also trying to help her have strength for the show without realizing just how precious her childhood was to her... i haven't even watched the show cause it looks too sad, he has become his character from some old show and it has consumed him, hes almost like a child actor or someone who spent his life trying to become a actor...
he was being selfish, but he was also being evil, and he was strangely enough trying to help her stand up and abandon the parts of life that often make a actors job so complex, to abandon their personal life.
and that was simultaneously evil, corruptibly selfish, but strangely, from his at that point twisted view and in the moment focus on what needed to be done, help her career and make him a even more valuable actor in the same move...
but that's why it was evil and wrong, it wasn't purely for her future, it was also for his benefiting from being able to give her help, and the final bit of that is, he was trying to talk her into abandoning the trust and goals that everyone has a child, family and friends, trusting your parents, seeking your friends approval, those can lead acting children astray.
parents that want to put their children out there for profit may not be interested in the kids best interests, or perhaps they feel this is the only way to save their kids and families future, its complex, and actors have been known to lead each other astray and to be used by so called friends for social standing and power...
so he was evil and corrupt, but from his twisted view in the moment, it was the world he lived and didn't realize he shouldn't drag others into it but should be seeking ways to clean it or bring himself out of it.
Rachel Young he was selfish, but i think it was a subconscious evil, he was trying to save his career, but he was also trying to help her have strength for the show without realizing just how precious her childhood was to her... i haven't even watched the show cause it looks too sad, he has become his character from some old show and it has consumed him, hes almost like a child actor or someone who spent his life trying to become a actor...
he was being selfish, but he was also being evil, and he was strangely enough trying to help her stand up and abandon the parts of life that often make a actors job so complex, to abandon their personal life.
and that was simultaneously evil, corruptible selfish, but strangely, from his at that point twisted view and in the moment focus on what needed to be done, help her career and make him a even more valuable actor in the same move...
but that's why it was evil and wrong, it wasn't purely for her future, it was also for his benefiting from being able to give her help, and the final bit of that is, he was trying to talk her into abandoning the trust and goals that everyone has a child, family and friends, trusting your parents, seeking your friends approval, those can lead acting children astray.
parents that want to put their children out there for profit may not be interested in the kids best interests, or perhaps they feel this is the only way to save their kids and families future, its complex, and actors have been known to lead each other astray and to be used by so called friends for social standing and power...
so he was evil and corrupt, but from his twisted view in the moment, it was the world he lived and didn't realize he shouldn't drag others into it but should be seeking ways to clean it or bring himself out of it.
also he’s basically just saying the actor version of Secretariats Don’t stop running speech
he behaved a lot like his mother in that first clip
Something I find interesting about this song, is it never ends on "Until the curtain Falls." It always ends on "Until the curtain..." Almost like it's symbolising that the curtain never falls, so celebrities always have to put on a show for everyone.
Other Commenters already mentioned it - Sarah Lynn's Mother is profiting from her, even after her death, be it sueing Bojack or making Advertisement with Sarah Lynn's Image.
So from that point...for Sarah Lynn, the Curtain never falls.
I thought it ended “nothing’s certain but the curtain” meaning the only constant in life is death.
In Sarah Lynn’s version, it literally ends on “Don’t Stop Dancing.”
*death has entered the chat*
"allow us to introduce are self"
Well the first time it ended with “nothings certain but the curtain” meaning nothing is certain in life except for the fact that it’s gonna end and that was the ending, there wasn’t really room for a “falls” but on the second one it makes sense for Sarah Lynn
He tries to be a good mentor to her, but he's so broken that he can't.
But he didn't even really try and be a good mentor. He just chose the easiest routes to do what he thought she needed, but he also used her to satisfy his own urges and needs
@Águila701 I don't think she was scared of him. Sara Lynn seemed to not be afraid of anything. Even Bojacks image of her in that episode she just flopped right into the dark door without giving it much thought. I think she looked up to him and he unknowingly took advantage of that. He was in a position to help her and failed her as hard as he could. I think he wanted her to do drugs with him because he needed to know someone else was as damaged as he was, and he was willing to risk her life for that. When the chips were down he failed to protect her in what was probably the most desperate hour of his life and sent himself in a spiral of depression and addiction.
I hate it when grim advice like that turns out to be right. In Sarah Lynn's case, depending what was going on in her life outside of Horsing Around, it may have been true that her fans of Horsing Around who don't know her personally would be the best friends she will ever have. April 13, 2020, 4:56pm
Yeah then the waited SEVENTEEN minutes before calling an ambulance
@@carlycrays2831 He didn't put her in the world, he owed her nothing.
He used the same type of advice Secretariat used.
Secretariat said to never stop running
Bojack said never stop dancing
Both pieces of advice are terrible but so very relatable it’s scary
I don’t think Secretariat’s advice is bad, but he should have clarified that you should deal with the bad things in your life, THEN keep running
@@conorscott430 It couldv'e been possible that Secretariat did say that, but because Bojack wasn't able to hear all of it, due to his parent's arguing, 'don't stop running' was all that he heard.
bojack was told to never stop dancing since he was a child. i believe his mother beatrice always said that cuz thats show business
0:03 Sarah Lynn’s little “ aw thank you” made me sad she was so innocent and then she was corrupted by the people in her life, and prime example of this is how she was 9 months sober and then bojack pulled her back in to addiction immediately and took her on a bender that ended her life
He shouldn’t have brought her back down even though she used sobriety as a tolerance break.
@@Emerly yeah who knows what would’ve happened if he didn’t call her up to her party she could’ve stayed sober, unfortunately she never got the chance to turn her life around
The worst part? He goes to the house WITH Sarah Lynn!!! He literally brought her to his death party with him because he’s the reason she’s dead! The entire second to last episode is 110% metaphors from start to finish
I’d say also to be included is the talk beatrice gives to child bojack
I didn't remember that one, it should've been the first scene shown
@@arrobaivanna she was forcing bojack to sing the lollipop song in that scene....
I finally uploaded it
The pop segment on Sarah Lynn's take gives me chills, negative chills, some terrifying vibes.
Dronto Ottrond I did NOT get chill vibes from it
It's that prickly muffin instrumental that gets me!
I actually thought it was sad, mostly because it demonstrates just how talented Sarah Lynn was. And in the end, Bojack knew she was talented.
Maëlle not chill vibes, he said the chills. Like a jolt of fear was sent down his spine.
Carly Crays i thought it was sad cause it showed how sexualized her teen years were as a pop singer. She grew up too quick
When Sarah Lynn reprimands Bojack she mentions that "it's her time"- similar to what would be said during an A A meeting. It's rather grim seeing how Bojack got her on a bender when she was 9 months sober
People always mention that Sarah Lynn was only staying clean so she could get an awesome high later on. But the fact is, she was staying clean despite being constantly surrounded by drugs. She was going to meetings and had even recorded a song for a hit movie that would go on to win the Oscar for best song. She was genuinely doing really good. Had Bojack never gone to her for that bender, she probably would have survived.
Carly Crays they’d all probably be living their best lives of BoJack had never been in any of their lives
It's that, but I also see the connection of "it's her time" as something people say when someone dies or has died. Like to me she is implying that it's her time to go now, his time in the "spotlight"(which leads to death as becomes clear the more people act out their act) will come later
@@carlycrays2831 well it was part of being sober, but getting high is the only reason she sobered up. If the quote "all your actions are caused by you" is applicable to Bojack, it should also to her. She had the most tragic fate out of all the characters in the show it's saddening
i saw the original and third back to back but all three, that's too much man
Jay I decided to find the first clip to see how it would turn out with the two songs.
Yowza Yowza Bo-Bowza!!
Leo Caldwell (audience cheers and laughs hysterically)
Yo sup Ezran
(From the back) THATS MY FAVORITE LINE
Sarah Lynn's outfit is the same outfit she wore to Herb's funeral :0
noot noot yeah except the one she wears at the funeral had black hands on the shirt and not white sparkly ones
noot noot
I knew I recognized it, but couldn’t remember from where.
@@angelplanet_4832 maybe it reflects to the fact that now she's the one who is dead.
It’s an inverted version of that outfit. Maybe that reflects the fact that she, herself, is now dead?
I also feel like the outfit itself has symbolic ties to her stepfathers assault as a child.
I just imagine Sarah Lynn telling herself “don’t stop dancing” over and over for 17 minutes just waiting to come back
It was as if when she fell into the darkness she was giving up because she was certain she wouldn’t make it
what the fuck this is dark
You don’t stop dancing:
You don’t stop smiling and you give those people what they want
‘Til the curtain’s fall
‘Til the curtain call
letusdoitforjohnny Never
Nothing’s certain but the curtain.
SecundusRomanus God this fucking show is way ahead of its time
letusdoitforjohnny you ever heard of the anime, *Perfect Blue*
Bojack Horseman is a successor of that
This comment bothers me
When she sings “the needle drops” it’s a reference to her heroin overdose.
I believe it may just be the needle on a metronome. Since metronomes are used to help keep a beat. If you recall, she didn’t shoot up heroin or use a needle. As bojack said “I’m not going to shoot up heroin with you sarah lynn, we can snort it like sophisticated adults.”
Chicken Permission you beat me to it haha
@@angelizdaboss I think it's meant to be the needle dropping on a record, because next line is "the music starts.' That is to say it can definitely be a double- or triple-meaning since the show's writers are so damn clever
Jake Bedard i think you may actually be right that makes so much sense. I didn’t think of a record of course! Thanks for the new perspective.
Probably just a melon shoutout
I was actually sympathetic and forgiving to almost everything Bojack did...except when they revealed that Bojack waited 17 minutes before calling the ambulance...I mean 1 minute can make the difference between someone dying or surviving let alone 17...who knows what would e happened if he called them as soon as he could....I can’t forgive him for that...I get it he had a bad childhood but that’s no excuse for what he did...just don’t be a shitty person...I still wish they expanded on Sarah’s sexual abuse as a child but I guess...that’s too much man...
tbh I didn't even process that he left her for 17 minutes until way way later (to be fair I didn't process the first viewing of the final episodes properly in general)-- n when it finally clicked i was just. WOW. You could've saved her life but instead you waited so you could cover your ass for whatever reason. and you claimed to love sarah lynn like a daughter.... despicable.
Not to mention- Sarah Lynn died at the hospital. Not the planetarium. Meaning had she arrived even a few minutes earlier it might have been enough time to save her
I don't think he knew she was still alive, it seemed like he was trying to say that after the accusation before he got side-tracked. On top of that in the state he was in we know he wasn't processing time like he should have, those seventeen minutes might have seemed like seconds to him because as he says he was really strung out. I don't think Bojack would have left her there alone if he knew she was still alive.
@@Something775 Yeah exactly I mean he was high as fuck it's not like he was using his best judgment in that moment...
@@tonygordon7571 This is absolutely plausible but the show is clearly pointing out the fact that the reason that he tried covering his tracks is because he puts himself first, and that's what killed sarah. Yes, he was high but lucid enough to call himself from sarahs phone to make it seem like he found her like that. Him being high might be why he thought she was immediately dead but him being a shitty person is what definitely contributed to her death
Bojacks mom gave him the same talk under a table when he was young and he didn't want to sing the lollipop song. The repetition of trauma and toxic patterns
czcams.com/video/VAcrtTZO8yE/video.html here it is cut together
I just realized Gina says “Life is a never ending show, my friend” while Sarah Lynn says “Life is a never ending show, old sport”. I feel like it’s intentional Sarah Lynn doesn’t call him a friend after what he did to her 😢
This is... harrowing.
The moment the music stops and Sarah Lynn is staring into the black abyss, small and alone...
This show, man.
Absolutely haunting sentiment that unfortunately acts as the theme for all of Hollywood.
What’s a Hollywood. Do you mean Hollywoob?
@@ctons My deepest apologies, slip of the keyboard-tongue
What sucks is that there are child stars that have fallen like Sarah Lynn. And people who led them there, like Bojack.
I’m usually super cynical but I do hope this show spurs people, especially those who are in idolized positions, to be better.
It's true, though. I grew up in that lifestyle...and Bojack really captures the horror that hollywood inflicts on people. Even now, the acquaintances I know who still work in the industry aren't happy.
It's very telling that the only characters who achieved a happy ending in the show all left hollywood behind. Charlotte, Diane, even PC stepped back from it all, albeit not completely. Granted we don't know Gina's true fate, but there's nothing to show that she ever overcame her PTSD or reputation for being "difficult", and for all we know, she could become the next Bojack, miserable and alone, with nothing but the hollow adoration of her fans for company. Even Sarah Lynn, at the end, lamented that she spent her life in entertainment, when all she wanted to be was a humble architect.
Sometimes I look back and wish I'd kept going, maybe I'd have "made it". But it's pointless to think about things that will never be, and my aforementioned acquaintances all say they wish they could be me, free from all the superficial bullshit they have to uphold every single day, so I guess the grass truly is greener on the other side.
I'm grateful for this show, because it pulls back the veneer and shows everybody that the glamour of celebrity is not something that anyone should ever aspire to. Yeah, you may become rich, but the trade off is the cost of your humanity. It's just not worth it.
Wobbles and Bean honestly I look back at myself when I was 10. I wanted to be on Disney channel like the kids I saw on TV. Went and did an audition too.
There are good actors that have balanced lives. But holy crap I can’t imagine myself being famous.
Congrats to Bojack Horseman on The Emmy Nomination for The View From Halfway Down!!!
hells yeah!
Pranked
IT SHOULDA WON
@@ILovePsySoMuch yeah I'm pretty sure it only lost because it was a cartoon, it definitely should have won
Just finished the show about an hour ago. Damn me if that song isn't catchy.
Same here. Can't get the episode out of my head
I love how Sarah Lynn talks
Kristen Schaal is the best
pun pun!
@@dozinggreen5824
Oyasumi Punpun
i thought i left this comment
That poor girl, she looked up to him and he drilled the poisonous advice and mindset from his mother and lived it just like himself
Seeing a dead character twerk just leaves this sad unpleasantness
This hits different with the scene when Sarah Lynn as a child. "A song you taught when I was small." Chills.
I do like how Sarah Lynn’s version reflected her life in a way, or at least the way that Bojack saw it. Her first verse sounded hopeful, like she was dreaming big about the life ahead of her. Which is exactly how she started out as a child actor who didn’t know any better.
Then the transition into a techno beat, starting off vulgar with the pole she slid down, and a few of her dance moves. It was very drug like, like a drug trip, and all of that could reflect her adulthood in showbusiness.
Then, the last verse. It was very melancholic and quiet, which is exactly how she died in the planetarium. She was tired and even then, was scared of losing her audience that she’d kept for years, hence her panic attack before Bojack took her to the planetarium, and she references that in this verse. Even when she died, she was still with the same person who pretty much ruined her life with his “advice”. She lived by that rule to never stop dancing, and she died because of it too. I also do like how she had the same backdrop as she did in her first verse, since even in the planetarium, she still had a little hope, and she spoke about her own dream. And she was still under Bojack’s influence.
I just thought it was a neat pattern, if the writers did that intentionally.
Showstopper:
Life is a never-ending show, my friend,
A twisting-turning, ever-bending show.
The audience is everyone you know, my friend;
Leave them with a smile when you go!
You can bet, that you're a star, so don't forget
How fun you are!
Get up there and give it your all
And don't stop dancing, don't stop dancing 'til the curtains fall!
You are a rotten little cog, mon frère;
Spun by forces you don't understand!
Living is a bitter nasty slog, mein herr;
Why not sell your sadness as a brand?
Paint your face and brush your mane and find someplace to cut your pain
To portions we can buy at the mall!
And don't stop dancing-
no you can't stop dancing 'til the curtains fall!
Aw shucks!
Today's the day you've got the spark
and find the way to make your mark
and get your tiny name on that wall
So don't stop dancing, baby don't stop spinnin'!
Don't stop beltin' buddy; now we're winnin'!
Grief consumes you but you just keep grinnin'!
The ache becomes you and it's just beginnin'!
Don't stop dancin'
Nothing's certain but the curtain!
View From Halfway Down:
Life is a never-ending show, old sport.
Except the minor detail that it ends.
The overture's a lifetime but the show is short,
Here with all your family and friends.
You run the race,
You blurt your lines,
they put your face on shirts and shrines,
and giant signs a thousand feet tall.
And don’t stop dancing, don’t stop dancing 'til the curtain call.
Shows are a never-ending life of course.
A silhouette that stays when you are gone.
What use is the struggle and the strife, old horse?
End it and your legacy lives on.
The chatter stops, the crowd departs,
a needle drops, the music starts.
A song you taught me when I was small.
Don’t stop dancing. Don’t stop dancing...
this needs to be higher up
man i cried when sarah lyn sung that... that second to last episode was hard to watch. what makes it worst is when you recall what she was saying earlier in the episode at the dinner table, she literally lived her life following that advice bojack gave her as a kid. Dont stop dancing...
Same here so hard to get through
when shara lynn go’s up and the moon is behind her it looks exactly when the fly guy was pulling Bojack in the sky during the old Sugerman palace
Eddie.
Dogman15 this might sound weird, knowing he only appeared in one episode, but he us my favorite character in the show
Wooden Winds he had a very bittersweet, sad, but simple story. I can see why he’d be a favorite :)
@@woodenwinds9629 Eddie was great. It's amazing how much characterization they can fit into one episode.
2:00
Just look at the left, there is the scene of Sharona and Bojack discussing about the alcohol that Sarah Lynn drank accidentally on the set. Good ol' foreshadowing
Left*
@@xandp2611 ok i fixed it
Am I the only one who legit can’t get over 4:05 and how _clean_ that transition was?
You know, when I heard Sarah Lynn saying "I wanna be an architect" the second time I saw the show, I started crying a lot because of her true dream that never came true... I felt so empty
'A song you taught when I was small, don't stop dancing' I know it's obvious, but Bj gave her the worst advice he ever could. Sarah Lynn didn't deserve any of that
The opening scene is tragic, this is his way of being nice. He was raised in a way which makes that piece of word vomit seem kind and genuine. He is being genuine, he's trying to comfort her, but he doesn't know just how fucked that kind of comforting is
Dang.
Don't we hear Bojack's mom tell him that he can't stop dancing the lollipop dance or whatever? Isn't that where everything comes from
Olle Daleskog yeah I just uploaded an updated version with it included.
Thats too much man...
:((
“A song you taught me when I was small” hits hard. It’s the first and last time we hear first person pronouns in both versions - and it feels incredibly intimate. It really cements the parallelisms of their lives.
one thing i dont think we talk about enough is how bojack wasnt even prompted to tell sarah lynn all that in the first place. before i watched the show, i saw that clip out of context and always assumed it was a pep talk gone horribly, horribly wrong, and that he was just trying to help her. but no, she was perfectly fine before he said all of that. poor girl
He probably was strung out on something while filming and took what his mom said when he was under the table as a kid when he didn’t wanna sing the lollipop song.
A show that never lost it's meaning. It never tried to reinvent or pump more life into itself with cheesy plotlines. It knew the story it wanted to tell and it did it.
I fucking love this show
Just from listening to ive written out the lyrics for Sarah Lynn’s verse
Don’t stop dancing
Life is a never ending show old sport
Except the minor detail that it ends
The overtures a life time
But the show is short
Here with all your family and friends
You run the race
You blurt your lines
They put your face on shirts and shrines
And giant signs a thousand feet tall
And don’t stop dancing
Don’t stop dancing
Till the curtain calls
Shows are a never ending life of course
A silhouette that stays when you are gone
What use is the struggle and the strife, old horse?
End it and your legacy lives on
The chatter stops
The crowd departs
A needle drops
The music starts
A song you taught me when I was small
Don’t stop dancing
Don’t stop dancing
I had always been thinking that it was "Till the curtain falls"
Nothing's certain but the curtain.
0:12 the way she says “yeah” is so sweet and innocent.
Sarah Lynn's very last "don't stop dancing" before she falls into the abyss is one of the most haunting things I've ever heard.
wow this show
I love how this show started off as watching a stupid washed up alcoholic deal with rich person problems but turned into something so SO much darker. The whole show hurts me so much every time I watch it, but it's so well orchestrated that I will never stop loving it, and will gladly sit through the pain again and again, because this show is an absolute masterpiece.
"End it and your legacy lives on" *goddamn*
0:28 Does Bojack realize that he's starting to sound like his mother?
Like how Sara lynn's life was cut short so was the song, she never said till the curtain call
also "a song you tought me when i was small" is amazing attention to detail
It’s really cool how both versions of the song don’t seem to have fulfilling endings, Gina’s song ends with “nothing’s certain but the curtain” which abruptly disrupts the rhythm of the song and Sarah Lynn’s ends with “don’t stop dancing..” and she never finishes even though the next line is an implied “till the curtain falls”. There wasn”t any closure in the endings or in death.
"Song you taught me when I was small" makes alot more sense.
17 seconds pass between the door appearing to Sarah Lynn and her jumping in.
Ouch.
is it just me or does the reprise sound like sarah lynn's "prickly muffin"
*edit:* yes i realize that was more obvious than i initially thought
It's the same beat!
it’s supposed to
I mean yeah, I'd imagine that's the point.
Exactly what it was. Sort of a reflection of how her career went then when she said, “A song you taught me when I was small.”, it was a clear callback to the advice Bojack gave her. Makes it eerie and haunting.
It is
When Sarah Lynn looked in to the darkness and than fell through that really hurt.
Death would've let him off the hook for his actions. It was good to see an example of what it could look like for someone to receive justice and take responsibility for their actions.
You see how everyone else fell or jumped in the hole with no hesitation,Sara Lynn didn’t do that,she just stared into the pit. it was symbolizing how she still could have lived if bojack called sooner and she wouldn’t need to go inside
It’s really creepy how in Sara Lynn’s performance she values keeping a clean image over life itself. It’s very scary to think what screwed up things led to that. I get that it’s in Bojack’s head, but it’s still crazy.
0:46 Those eyes give me nightmares
Yeah
Me too
1:34 just realized they foreshadowed the crap out of this
"Leave them with a smile when you go" is so beautiful and haunting.
The worst part is, is how much I relate to that line “Don’t Stop dancing til the curtains fall” Mainly because it was stuck in my head
Thanks for putting all these together, Yowza Yowza Bo-Bowza!
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*cough*
I was hoping someone had already done this. Thank you.
Mamamew TheRani you’re welcome! I honestly wanted to see how they would hit back to back to back.
I relate to this too hard... that’s t-you know.
That's too much man
bojack to sarah lynn: don't stop dancing
gina to bojack: don't stop dancing
sarah lynn to bojack: don't stop dancing
his past hit him twice lol
The echoing of when Sarah Lynn says “dancing” in the vast void of darkness made my skin crawl.
How Bojack could've saved his ass and Sarah Lynn's at the same time: text 911 from her phone then drive away. Or call 911 from his phone and say she told him where she was and that she overdosed, then drive away.
the song's based on "mein herr" from cabaret AND NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT IT so here I am
and life is a cabaret, thematically
Thank you! I knew it sounded familiar but I couldn’t recall
@@thedistinguished5255 Also probably "all the world's a stage"
Is a beautiful night to see the stars, right Sarah Lynn?
Bojack: Sarah Lynn?
A song you taught me when I was small
Sad for this show to be coming to an end. But it was for the best, many shows lose their value, because they make so many seasons to satisfy the viewers. Now this has to be in my all time top 3 series because I related too hard. I'm 15 but my life's full of holes. I lost my dad at 11, and I was lucky to beat a clinical depression in 6 months. I've had multiple injuries which kinda made me relate to Secretariat. I'm mostly bored all year except summer, spring autumn and winter I catch every opportunity to go to a party, because getting drunk is just amazing with friends, and key to meeting new people or eventually love. I'm also addicted to nicotine, and smoke weed from time to time. All in all, this show describes the dark parts of show business and mental illness that us, basic people will never get close to. Sarah Lynn being a child actress portrays that it's basically labor, that will have impact on your entire life. I will miss the show, the happy parts, the dark and sad parts, the cliffhangers, their voices, and most of all, the characters themselves. I'm glad Bojack changed the best he could, Diane & Carolyn got married, todd grew up, and settled with his mom. I hope the show might be picked up again in the future, for now. Let it rest. Hope someone will read this message :)
Im sorry to hear that youve been through a lot man. I know i can relate to this show a lot too, ive had those bad depressive episodes and such too. Hopefully life is looking a little bit better gor you now. Take care
I relate to the show a lot like this as well
I’m 17. Depressed and lack will to live. My mother is a psychopath. My parents are separated but still live in the same house because my dad won’t let me be alone with her. But they sleep in separate rooms and fight 24/7. My dads also disabled and my mom is soon moving so I’ll have to take care of him. My mom also acts like she’s high a lot and forced an eating disorder on me. Oh and I’m still in the closet
And a lot of other traumatic shit happened to me but it’s left me with reoccurring hallucinations and nightmares to the point that I can’t sleep anymore and my grades started dropping because every day for the last 2 months I’ve slept about 5 hours
I was also bullied as a child because I had autism and moved schools each year for my 8th, 9th, and 10th grade
But that’s just too much man
@@sagebauland4276 holy shit dude. Man I feel like what I experienced is jackshit to yours. Hope you'll get better and find a solution. We're here for you man :) And don't worry about the closet, as long you don't come from a family with homophobic background you should be good. Eventually move to a friend or relatives house for some time so you can think or something. Best of luck my guy :)
@@sagebauland4276 just came in here to say things get better and all of this happening to you isn't your fault. when youre 18 try your best to get out of there. you don't owe your parents anything, you dont owe anyone anything. just yourself. take care of yourself. i am 32 and i promise you things get better. i come from similar family issues.
Read this message and feel for you. Bojack helped me through a ton of shit as well, and I'm grateful for this community we have.
“A song you taught me when I was small” oh shit now I understand..
BoJack Horseman has got to be one of the best shows i've EVER watched and definitely one of my top 3 favorites.
The fact he immediately stops and listens to Sarah Lynn when she’s shushes him cause it’s her time- is an odd detail considering he’s reformed at that moment; but in the past dismissed her constantly. Especially on that bender, sheesh.
And she took it to heart. Even right before she died she was trying to entertain and perform
0:17 even when bojack said that little Sara it's still smiling 🥰❤ so cute
Did anyone else realise that when Gina sings she says "dont stop dancing till the curtains fall" but when Sarah Lynn sings it she says "Dont stop dancing till the curtain call"? if you're hearing something different correct me but i swear that's what i hear every time
Bojack Horseman deserves SO MUCH more attention. This is one of the best pieces of art and media I have ever seen. Literally a masterpiece. I can't even begin to describe how good it is.
You know, it's amazing that it's legal for kids to be actors. How is that not *child labor?* I didn't know what I was signing up for. I was 3. April 13, 2020, 5:03pm
"a sillhouete that stays when you're gone"
Why that phrase gave me chills
There's a creepy Easter Egg in this show.
In "The View From Halfway Down", Bojack figures out hes dying at the 17 minute mark. The same amout of time he waited to call for the paramedics to save Sarah Lynn.
Rewatch that epsode knowing this fact without skipping the intro. It will really sink in how long Bojack was letting her slowly die in order to save himself.
that just makes you think justt how long 17 minutes are
That little twinge in the music which is used often throughout the show like when bojack saw her go through the door is one of my favorite things about bojack. It just perfectly encapsulates how I feel when I see something like that happen or when a certain event transpires
Love it how the first one is a memory the second one is him excusing the shity things he’s done and the third one is him realising his grief
_"Shows_ are a neverending _life,_ of course,
A silhouette that stays when you are gone.
What use is the _struggle_ and the _strife,_ Old Horse?
_End it and your legacy lives on!"_
Whether that's the ghost of Sarah-Lynn or just an image conjured by Bojack's subconscious, that is _really_ grim.
0:18 how am I just noticing he said prickly muffin??
Edit: I also forgot Bojack says it at 0:46
Pilar Hunter that was her nickname on the show
Yeah that's why she had a song called that
smilelastawhile “dont touch my prickly MUFFIN”