Hahahahaha...oh my lord. I BURST out laughing at Katies commentating on the fish being chucked at that chicks door...haha...perfection. also HASHTAG--->>> "Sometimes you gotta just grab your titties for reassurance."
Best payoff ever for Daryl's characterization after all these years; he finally tries to flirt with a girl, and does so by throwing a dead fish at her door and just stands there staring at it
i think the leah flashback was nice. it gives us dog origin story, why daryl was hesitant with connie coming with him, why he left michonne when he asked if she’s alright with being alone, the food under the floorboard moment with connie it’s a lot of mirroring and it all fit well for me
It wasn't sudden. It was months, years even, before they really "got together". He met Dog when he was just a pup, then a year later finally saw him again and met Leah. Then it was 6 months later, then 8 months later, and then 3 months after that he threw the fish at her door. Then she came to his camp, threw the fish back at him, and invited him to come to her cabin to get out of the cold. Then they bonded over their stories of loss and some time passed as they hung out more, fished together, watched an eclipse together, THEN apparently it became physical, and they were together for 10 more months before they had the disagreement about him going away for a bit. This seems like a slow courtship to me and a very Daryl approach to a relationship based on the fact that he has almost never seemed interested in one. It came across as very realistic for his character to me. **EDIT** I don't think the goal was to get you to feel anything for Leah. We feel for Daryl, so I think the idea was that if we feel for Daryl, we'll empathize with his feelings about this person and I believed that he had them. Whether or not we felt anything for her, he did, and I can feel for his loss. I also appreciated that there wasn't an actual love scene and no kissing either. It wasn't about fans getting a chance to see Daryl making out with someone. It was about the connection he felt and then lost during a time when he had cut himself off from his family and was missing/grieving Rick. Just my thoughts. Always enjoy your reactions!
The thing about friends coming to a crossroads, they either grow stronger as friends or they split. The similarities between Carol and Daryl have always been so strong, except Carol was much more flighty, where as Daryl was a loner that always kept a certain distance. Now Daryl finds a love interest, who's so similar to him and Carol, and the memory of Leah running probably brought back a lot of Daryl's frustration with Carol's running...especially since it cost him Connie. The writing in this episode was on another level.
Ya know, at first I didn't know if he was gonna go Merle or Rick, before this he never called him that, only Rick had. It was so satisfying to here him simply acknowledge Rick that way.
I read somewhere else that from the time they met until they possibly slept together it was 17 months, so they knew each other less than 2 years, but definitely longer than 5 minutes. 😂
Kate is right about this chick. Even though we just met her, the writer's should have hinted about her existence like about 10 episodes ago. Not just dumb a complete stranger and giver her history with our favorite character and expect us to be emotionally invested in her. Good catch Kate....
And that’s the problem. How are we supposed to enjoy or support a relationship for a very important character when we only saw that relationship play out in one episode.
We’re supposed to feel for Daryl, not Leah persay. I absolutely loved it and was thrilled to see Daryl have a relationship with someone outside of the core group. The flashbacks showed that he’d been with her for about 10 months or so before she gave him the ultimatum.
The episode is not about Leah, it's about Daryl and Carol. Leah, is little more than a plot device. The episode was making a parallel between Carol and Daryl and how both of them were/are running away from the consequence of an event. In Carol's case she is still unable to come to terms with Henry's death and she now feels guilty for the destruction of Hilltop and Alexandria. She tried to escape and forget about Henry's death by running away on the boat between seasons but Daryl forced her to stay, and she is still trying to run away from it again. In Daryl's case, he was feeling guilty for Rick's death. And keep in mind, they don't know he is alive, so at best they would be looking for a roaming walker. When you think about it, if he was actually dead, it's basically impossible for them to find him. For all they know, he could've been completely destroyed by the explosion and there wouldn't be a body, he could've survived the explosion but died afterwards and then walked away, and then again with how far we've seen walkers go, god knows where his walker would have ended up. He could've been put down and burned by some other group and there is no way Daryl would know. So when you look at it from this perspective, it basically makes no sense for Daryl to keep looking for him especially years afterwards. The point is that Daryl was using the pointless search for Rick as an excuse from facing the fact that he's gone. Carol was using the boat trip and the hunt in this episode for the same thing. Daryl was running away just like Carol was. Lines like "It's gonna catch up to us eventually" being said by Carol in the present and Daryl in the past, and "Only if we let it" being said by Leah in the past and Daryl in the present, show the similar state of mind that Daryl was in and Carol is right now, and it shows us that Leah helped Daryl realize where he is supposed to be, Daryl is trying to do the same for Carol but she keeps refusing to listen and continues to try to run from Henry's death.
It's so funny how two huge fans can see this so differently. I loved that leah is an outsider and brought in as a surprise instead of daryl having a relationship with someone in the group. I love the fish flirting and that it took months for them to warm up to each other. And i love that apparently carol was the only one he told.
A B It seems to me that one important thing is that the playing field was level. They had no history together and Daryl wasn't dragging any of his Dixon baggage. He could present himself any way he chose and base it on what he wished to share. He could pursue whatever was going on between them without outside observation or judgment. I would think that would be very freeing and allow him emotional safety that he normally doesn't have.
I’m glad Darryl got to say all that. Carol still wants to take responsibility for all the good outcome but make it seem like it outweighs the bad she brought.
I loooooved it, I needed to know why Daryl was gone so long. He and Leah were just alike and suffering the same. It made sense to me BUT I'M still shipping Connie
I really hope not. The show is supposed to be about Daryl and carol, not any other relationship. I think they will bring Leah back in season 11 in some way but I doubt she’ll be in the spin-off.
Your face at the end when Carol and Daryl were putting it all out there. Priceless. I think with all the time jumps it was confusing, but I think Daryl spent quite a bit of time intimate with Leah. More than we think. Great reaction as always
Daryl acted incredibly out of character in this episode. Also, it makes no sense for him to be so resentful towards Carol when he told her 2 episodes ago that they could still go to New Mexico and hugged her. Not to mention he went through the same thing as her with the whole punching Negan thing so he knows how guilty she feels. I'm not saying no one should be mad at Carol because she did fuck up a lot, but Daryl out of all characters should understand her and empathize with her. They've been friends for 10+ years after all.
EXACTLY! Why is no one talking about this? That part of the writing is so bad imo. He tells her two episodes ago that she still has him as a friend and now he's telling her she's on her own if she wants to leave? They should've had this conversation before that moment because it felt a whole lot like forgiveness. He knows how many children she lost and no one is gonna be in the right state of mind after something like that. Honestly Carol deserved to release her feelings just as much as he did because has not been perfect either. They both had stuff that needed to hear.
i think daryl was right to say that to carol, she’s not been a great friend to him and not properly apologising for what happened to connie when daryl is *always* there for her.
@@doodoorantsandreviews6767 he has a right to tell her she should've left forever? to say that to her best friend in the whole world? their bond has *always* been stronger than this. it really feels forced for him to stay so mad after carol already made peace with both kelly and lydia in 10B. she led the horde towards the cliff and has been helping rebuild too. if she hadn't made amends then that conversation would've been believable, but she did. daryl knows she's been feeling like shit for all the people she got hurt and he's been in the same position as her too with glenn's death. he just looks like a hypocrite and a bad friend to me. especially after we saw how understanding of *his* grief carol was in the flashbacks. this episode made 10x16 seem useless. he literally told her days before that "you still got me" and that they could still go to new mexico. how is that good and consistent writing?
zevranalenko Perhaps Daryl feels he has been supportive of her over quite a period of time that Carol was acting in reckless ways and he has just had enough.
as a donnie shipper i'm not too worried about leah getting in the way because all this happened before daryl even met connie and even after everything with him and leah, daryl still shown interest in connie
Now this is entertainment I look forward to theese just as much as the episodes ♥️ I kinda feel like this episode was a bit rushed would've loved to see this storyline over two episodes
It's been years since I watched your channel, between covid and shut downs, I didn't even realize TWD was back on. Then I reached back into the world, and caught up. My first thought, after this episode, was what does Katie think. Thank you for keeping this alive.
Looking back to after the time jump when Daryl comes back to civilization, he is more open, communicates more, etc. Originally, we thought is was because he was stepping up to take Rick's place. With seeing this flashback, I think it explains his transformation and his time with Leah really influenced him
I think the point of the story here was less about Leah, and more about Carol. Otherwise, why would they have incorporated Carol into this episode. The parallel versions of shared conversations between Daryl & Leah, and Daryl & Carol mean something more is going on between the "friends". I find it interesting that Daryl didn't make his decision to stay with Leah until Carol told Daryl that she was going to be around less because she plan to spend more time with Ezekiel (& Henry). And, he didn't go off on her until after she found the note he left for Leah. I haven't "shipped" the two together since season 3, and that was just briefly. As time passed, I thought 'Nah, it's too late; so unlikely.' But there have been clues dropped that people are ignoring. I liked Connie, and thought she could be good for Daryl, but she & Leah could just be a distraction for Daryl. Great reaction, Katie.
@@burrichgrrl57 I don’t really ship them either. Too little, too late, I say. But can't deny the subtle signs that something more is going on. Frankly, I think Carol or Daryl, or both, might die before the series end. Despite the rumors AMC is spreading about a spin-off. I don't think it's happening. It doesn't make sense. BTW...thanks for your polite comment.
Gonna add the online theories here. Norman has said in interviews that Leah is not what she seems. She has a special forces tattoo and the knife she uses to cut Daryl loose is the knife he gives to Carol (seen in promo photos for 10x21 Diverged) and that Carol seems to be using to repair something (also from 10x21 Diverged promo photo). Leah also refers to her "squad" that she fought with from before the turn and that they stayed together after the Turn. I think she is either a Reaper or possibly CRM. Remember in TWD World Beyond... Huck was under deep cover to befriend Felix and to get Hope to the CRM headquarters and pulled very sketchy stuff. So this is all very intriguing.
This episode is just a lot to take in. It's actually really well written and believable that Daryl and Leah would get together. Both are broken and lonely when they meet and they both come from broken families. They actually have a lot in common and as we see Daryl was hella awkward when they were forced to physically be close. But like holy hell writers WE JUST MET HER 20 MINUTES AGO! Like it took them like a year to get close so yeah it's believable Daryl could get to this point but we don't really know her at all, so it all hits us so fast. It wasn't poorly written or put together, quite the contrary, it was just a lot to take in in just one episode. But with all the time jumps it felt rushed, even though it wasn't at all. This is definitely the weirdest TWD episode ever.
I was frustrated when i first saw this but when you see the next D&C episode in 10c and season 11, I know this will all make sense by the end of season 11.
I don't have any remorse for her for the same reasons you stated...we just met here. But I feel awful for Daryl. Everything he's been through since we met him. Cutting himself off after Rick's death, then meeting someone who apparently brought him real happiness for the months they were together...only to have her leave like that. I've been on the receiving end of someone literally going poof on me and it is some gut wrenching shit. He's endured so much. I honestly think if it weren't for Judith he would have bounced a long ass time ago.
Keith One thing I find strange is how little the reactors I have watched have any reaction to the scene where Daryl thinks he's found Rick's body. Honestly my heart dropped and then the scene with the storm? It really broke my heart yet no one has mentioned it so far in my perusings.
You never do hear anyone complain about normal shite.I agree.Once,I would love to hear Neegan say he has a problem sleeping because his right nostril gets clogged or congested at night.
Rumor is that Leah is actually pregnant and that's why she made Daryl choose. Leah could show up at the commonweatlh, taking over Michonnes daughters role in a sense, but its Daryl that finds her and maybe a kid as well. Rumor is a little tough however, considering the spin-off. I couldn't really see Daryl leaving his own kid behind, no matter how safe they were... UNLESS its for Rick, to find him after finding out about his location.
I don't think choosing Leah was out of character for Daryl considering this is the 'flashback version' of him, which was in a very vulnerable emotional state. At that point of time, he was still doing his self-exile thing and was holding a tremendous amount guilt for playing a role in Rick's "death". Meanwhile he sees Carol and everybody else starting to move on with their lives, and I kinda get why he thinks it's better if he just goes away. Keep in mind he didn't really return to his place in the communities until s9 after Carol and Henry visit him in the woods.
@@joanneweller8881 yeah, I feel like they made a very intentional choice to not show any real intimacy between them on-screen. Idk, the amount of people I've seen who seem to be under the impression that the show wants them to like their relationship is just a little odd to me - I always got the sense that it was pretty toxic and the show itself portrayed it as such.
@@bucket399 well angela kang said there would have been an uproar showing after only knowing character for half an episode. It all makes sense now. Angela kang shows the relationship info in season 11 recaps and then confirms it was toxic after season 11 episode 8.
Kate is right about this chick. Even though we just met her, the writer's should have hinted about her existence like about 10 episodes ago. Not just dumb a complete stranger and giver her history with our favorite character and expect us to be emotionally invested in her. Good catch Kate....
They actually did hint about her. Melissa mentioned it on Talking Dead. Her and Daryl were having one of their conversations and she mentioned about "Her dog." I don't remember the exact episode but I do remember going "What?" "Who's her?" when I saw it....
I feel like Leah will appear in S11 at the commonwealth, maybe Daryl will take the michonne story line, where she finds out her daughter is still alive at the commonwealth. Instead it’s Daryl finding out Leah is still alive at the commonwealth
Scenario: Connie eventually shows up and she and Daryl rekindle their budding relationship then one day Leah shows up to Alexandria with baby Daryl... aaand discuss. (btw, from the time Leah captured Daryl and the time she came up missing/gone, 27 months elapsed so a little more than just 5 minutes).
Loved this episode. So good. Also not sure why so many people find it weird that he was with Leah for a while. During this time it made complete sense. Not weird at all. Great character growth. People need to chill the hell out and stop living your lives based on “shipping” character. Just relax, people. It was *NOT WIERD* or contradictory *AT ALL.* Also they spent 10 months together. Not just a couple days)
Daryl got a sex offering from carol when they just got to the prison.then he was working on connie,until,she come up missing.then he (it seems) finally got it on with leah.question,..is...and some people are asking now,could there be a knocked up leah,showing back up at some point.dont imagine,anyone is up on birth control at this point,in the apocalypse.
Five minutes for us = a couple of years for Darryl. So technically it wasn't after 10 years he's with her, he took time to trust her; he's no fool. Remember that time jump started at 5 years earlier. I think she's the reason why he liked Connie but kept a little distance between them. And the way she gave him that ultimatum I'm guessing it's because she thought or knew she was pregnant. They may be setting up a love triangle once they find Connie. Depending on whether or not Leah was taken or left on her own accord.
Katie, you're totally right in your opinion!! It's spot on!! You don't have to be a writer to know a character.All you have to have is your own thoughts, feelings and imaginations about the show.These writers were mixing their medications or they ran out.
That was a great episode IMHO. I love it when writers upset fan expectations. We forget that with a show like this we only see vignettes of the characters lives. We didn’t see anything of what went on with their lives for 5-6 years, so it’s eminently possible something like this would have happened Darryl obviously was Leah as a kindred spirit. They were together for 10 months it seems (according to the captions in the show). His guilt over leaving is obviously what has helped him to learn to stay around the communities once Carol got him back And it’s really good that he’s expressed what everyone has been feeling about Carol.... Angela Kang has been absolutely brilliant at sending the show in directions that make fans confront their comfortable notions of characters, what they do, who they are with, who is right & wrong etc. if only TWD had her running the show a few seasons earlier!
I think you missed the implication here. He knew Leah for at least a couple of years. And they were together for around ten months after that. They could have done a better job of explaining that. No hate meant at all! I'm just trying to help :). I do think it's weird that they had Daryl's first romantic encounter be with someone we've never met before. As a Donnie shipper, I'm not really worried about it. Even Carol said she saw something between them.
I think Daryl's "relationship with Leah" is him trying to come to terms with himself and all he's lost. Because you're right. This romance with someone outside the group is not Daryl.
I think it really helps that they are such good friends in real life. They have a great chemistry between them and I can’t wait to see their spin off show.
Omg I was feeling the exact same way as you were! For fucks sake! I had no feelings towards that lady! I was furious about the fact that she made ultimatums for my boy! What the hell? Like he would leave her family for this woman he knew for a fucking few minutes!!?? What the heck?? I hated it! I loved the baby Dog. I loved that he called Rick his brother... The rest of it? Bullshit. I want to erase this nonsense off of my head. Too rushed. If we saw this happening during these two seasons, I would buy this. This was just stupid.
I think these 6 extra episodes are meant to show us thinks they never really had the time to. With last episode reintroducing Maggie, this episode focusing on Daryl's 6 year journey outside of the communities and of course episode 6 being Negan's backstory.
Season 9 episode 14 michonne asks daryl if he's ok being alone while their out looking for Rick, he's reaction says it all.. Maybe that's the answer we're all looking for 🤔 awesome reaction as always!
New hair looks adorable! But yeah, it definitely felt sort of odd pushing some random woman onto Daryl, but at the same time it was a few years with only moments being shown of what happened between them. I couldn't really feel for Leah since we don't know much about her, but it was still pretty powerful to see Daryl's actions and feelings.
This Darrell and Carol show is setting up the spinoff after TWD ends. But obviously they patch up their differences before The End since AMC has already announced the new D & C show. Leah happened between Rick being taken by the World Beyond people and the Whisperer War. Bet she reappears. The Commonwealth arc is going to set it all up.
I agree that it was quick between Daryl and Leah but I think we need to keep in mind that it was a massive time jump. So there's lots of things we won't be able to see. I would honestly rather see him end up with Connie cause their connection is more natural than something from a time jump.
I honestly hope not. I think her coming back is warranted because just a one off act doesn’t make sense. Bit her coming back with a new squad maybe. It makes sense. I think she saw even daryl had a family. She was hurt he didn’t choose her. She went to find her own family/squad. For her to get Pregnant? No. Lazy writing. But her coming back is a new choice potentially for future daryl.
for clarity, Daryl and Leah knew each other for years before the whole "who do you belong with" talk. shame they can't exactly earn the audiences full love and care for a new character by showing a lot of flashback cutesy scenes. but it did establish Daryl's sexual orientation and that he can have feelings for people more than just friends
I think we'll see Leah again. I think she's a reaper, she mentioned she was with her squad "sounds like prior military". The reaper guy from last episode looked like he was past military. She also had a skull tattoo, (skull/reaper), reaper sounds like it could be the code name for their platoon. A lot of military get tattoos to represent their squadrons.
Hahaha Katie, bro...you gotta pay attention. They were together for over 10 months. Calm down lol. At the table when she told Daryl to choose, 15 seconds earlier it said "10 months later". 😁
I feel like the writers are trying to crush peoples souls finally giving Daryl and love interest but took that away from him because he’s not going to stop trying to look for Rick when we know ricks not really dead and Daryl will never find his body . Basically showing Daryl lost his chance at love for nothing
Man, I love Daryl, but I still hope they're at some point going to point out the similarities between the way Glenn died VS the way Connie died. Both died because of the actions of the villains in this show, but prompted by the emotional and irresponsible reaction by either Daryl or Carol. When Daryl cried to Maggie about getting Glenn killed, her immediate reaction was to promise him it was not his fault and comfort him. Daryl being all snappy with Carol for Connie's "death" feels like he's being a bit of a hypocrite, considering he of all could probably understand how awful Carol feels. Now when Maggie's back, I would love to see this more than ever.
Marwest I don't really think the two things should be compared. For one Glenn's murder might have been triggered by Daryl's outburst but that was what it was. A single moment of rage while Carol has been acting recklessly again and again. She was obsessed with vengeance for Henry's death, at any cost. Daryl was emotionally devastated thinking that he caused Glenn's murder but Carol says "I was right" No, I don't think they are comparable. Besides, Connie didn't "die" by the actions of a villain. She was trapped in a cave in basically caused by Carol and a stick of dynamite.
Personally, I liked it. It's much more unrealistic that he wouldn't fall for a badass loner chick like her. And they took a YEAR to actually get together. Plus, you gotta admit, she's kinda right up his alley. And when Daryl Dixon throws a fish at your door, that's courtship, man.
the fact that he waits so long to make a move and then throws a dead fish in her house is so Daryl
Come on an there are no fast food restaurants. It's his way of talking her out to dinner.
@@ginnygoble8600 still it is funny 😂
Hahahahaha...oh my lord. I BURST out laughing at Katies commentating on the fish being chucked at that chicks door...haha...perfection. also HASHTAG--->>> "Sometimes you gotta just grab your titties for reassurance."
I guess throwing a dead fish at someone's door is the post apocalypse version of sending a bunch of flowers and a card from moonpig!!
Apocalyptic version of a mixtape
Best payoff ever for Daryl's characterization after all these years; he finally tries to flirt with a girl, and does so by throwing a dead fish at her door and just stands there staring at it
I wasn’t on board with Daryl and Leah but watching him act like a teenager with his first crush is freaking adorable. Also the note bloody broke me.
I LOVE KATIE'S NEW HAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same it was weird because I haven't watched her for a while but I like it
new season , new hair color... she looks good!
She will change it tommorow don't worry🤣🤣 haha I love her
Can’t believe Daryl hasn’t as much as blown a kiss in ten seasons and now to find out he was pegging some hun in the forest for ten months.
it boggles my mind
Technically, she'd be doing the pegging.
@@d3l3tes00n beat me to it
@@beaver6d9 I wish they would've showed us this.
I think not all is as it appears.
i think the leah flashback was nice. it gives us dog origin story, why daryl was hesitant with connie coming with him, why he left michonne when he asked if she’s alright with being alone, the food under the floorboard moment with connie it’s a lot of mirroring and it all fit well for me
It wasn't sudden. It was months, years even, before they really "got together". He met Dog when he was just a pup, then a year later finally saw him again and met Leah. Then it was 6 months later, then 8 months later, and then 3 months after that he threw the fish at her door. Then she came to his camp, threw the fish back at him, and invited him to come to her cabin to get out of the cold. Then they bonded over their stories of loss and some time passed as they hung out more, fished together, watched an eclipse together, THEN apparently it became physical, and they were together for 10 more months before they had the disagreement about him going away for a bit. This seems like a slow courtship to me and a very Daryl approach to a relationship based on the fact that he has almost never seemed interested in one. It came across as very realistic for his character to me. **EDIT** I don't think the goal was to get you to feel anything for Leah. We feel for Daryl, so I think the idea was that if we feel for Daryl, we'll empathize with his feelings about this person and I believed that he had them. Whether or not we felt anything for her, he did, and I can feel for his loss. I also appreciated that there wasn't an actual love scene and no kissing either. It wasn't about fans getting a chance to see Daryl making out with someone. It was about the connection he felt and then lost during a time when he had cut himself off from his family and was missing/grieving Rick. Just my thoughts. Always enjoy your reactions!
Perfectly said!
On point! 🤗
Nailed it.... 👍🏼
But the audiance didn't see her the audiance has no connection with this leah chick, hence it was sudden and rushed.
yes in the story it wasnt quick but how it was presented in the episode felt too quick.
The thing about friends coming to a crossroads, they either grow stronger as friends or they split. The similarities between Carol and Daryl have always been so strong, except Carol was much more flighty, where as Daryl was a loner that always kept a certain distance. Now Daryl finds a love interest, who's so similar to him and Carol, and the memory of Leah running probably brought back a lot of Daryl's frustration with Carol's running...especially since it cost him Connie. The writing in this episode was on another level.
Thank God you had the words to explain it. I loved it too
Ever dawn on you that "Leah" might be Daryl's way of working through the dimensions of his own mind?
@@archiesimpson5172 oh wait a sec....
@@alkavonstra5479 😏 yes? Did something resonate?
When he said brother I thought or Merle and when I realized he meant Rick my heart hurt
Ya know, at first I didn't know if he was gonna go Merle or Rick, before this he never called him that, only Rick had. It was so satisfying to here him simply acknowledge Rick that way.
Honestly I kinda forgot about Merle lol
@@streeda6501 oop- hahaha
God..how i cried
They knew each other for a few years and lived together for 10 months. A little longer then 5 minutes. 😂😂😂😂
I read somewhere else that from the time they met until they possibly slept together it was 17 months, so they knew each other less than 2 years, but definitely longer than 5 minutes. 😂
Yeah, just because we only knew her for an episode doesn’t mean it was a rushed relationship. Daryl doesn’t do rushed.
Right! Like last time I checked a few years is a lot longer than 5 minutes lmao
@@KCohere33 It took Daryl 3 seasons to speak 10 words. He definitely cannot be rushed. 😂
Kate is right about this chick. Even though we just met her, the writer's should have hinted about her existence like about 10 episodes ago. Not just dumb a complete stranger and giver her history with our favorite character and expect us to be emotionally invested in her. Good catch Kate....
He knew her for more than 5 minutes he was out there for months and months with her. We just didn't get to see it all
And that’s the problem. How are we supposed to enjoy or support a relationship for a very important character when we only saw that relationship play out in one episode.
We’re supposed to feel for Daryl, not Leah persay. I absolutely loved it and was thrilled to see Daryl have a relationship with someone outside of the core group. The flashbacks showed that he’d been with her for about 10 months or so before she gave him the ultimatum.
The episode is not about Leah, it's about Daryl and Carol. Leah, is little more than a plot device.
The episode was making a parallel between Carol and Daryl and how both of them were/are running away from the consequence of an event.
In Carol's case she is still unable to come to terms with Henry's death and she now feels guilty for the destruction of Hilltop and Alexandria. She tried to escape and forget about Henry's death by running away on the boat between seasons but Daryl forced her to stay, and she is still trying to run away from it again.
In Daryl's case, he was feeling guilty for Rick's death. And keep in mind, they don't know he is alive, so at best they would be looking for a roaming walker. When you think about it, if he was actually dead, it's basically impossible for them to find him. For all they know, he could've been completely destroyed by the explosion and there wouldn't be a body, he could've survived the explosion but died afterwards and then walked away, and then again with how far we've seen walkers go, god knows where his walker would have ended up. He could've been put down and burned by some other group and there is no way Daryl would know.
So when you look at it from this perspective, it basically makes no sense for Daryl to keep looking for him especially years afterwards. The point is that Daryl was using the pointless search for Rick as an excuse from facing the fact that he's gone.
Carol was using the boat trip and the hunt in this episode for the same thing.
Daryl was running away just like Carol was. Lines like "It's gonna catch up to us eventually" being said by Carol in the present and Daryl in the past, and "Only if we let it" being said by Leah in the past and Daryl in the present, show the similar state of mind that Daryl was in and Carol is right now, and it shows us that Leah helped Daryl realize where he is supposed to be, Daryl is trying to do the same for Carol but she keeps refusing to listen and continues to try to run from Henry's death.
Well said
Spot on. I do suspect we’ll see Leah again though (applying the no death scene/body principle) either in season 11 or one of the other shows
@@chrisbrooker7260 probably the spinoff or this new enemy group of Maggie's
Yes, the episode was mainly about D and C, but if you don't think Leah is going to reunited with Daryl, possibly with Daryl's child, you're deluded.
love this analysis
It's so funny how two huge fans can see this so differently. I loved that leah is an outsider and brought in as a surprise instead of daryl having a relationship with someone in the group. I love the fish flirting and that it took months for them to warm up to each other. And i love that apparently carol was the only one he told.
A B It seems to me that one important thing is that the playing field was level. They had no history together and Daryl wasn't dragging any of his Dixon baggage. He could present himself any way he chose and base it on what he wished to share. He could pursue whatever was going on between them without outside observation or judgment. I would think that would be very freeing and allow him emotional safety that he normally doesn't have.
@@burrichgrrl57 i absolutely agree.
I’m glad Darryl got to say all that. Carol still wants to take responsibility for all the good outcome but make it seem like it outweighs the bad she brought.
I loooooved it, I needed to know why Daryl was gone so long. He and Leah were just alike and suffering the same. It made sense to me BUT I'M still shipping Connie
Same here
Maybe Leah will Appear in the Daryl and Carol Spinoff!
Good point there! I also have a feeling that this episode is the start of the spinoff!
I really hope not. The show is supposed to be about Daryl and carol, not any other relationship. I think they will bring Leah back in season 11 in some way but I doubt she’ll be in the spin-off.
Leah will probably appear Somewhere in the Future!
Your face at the end when Carol and Daryl were putting it all out there. Priceless. I think with all the time jumps it was confusing, but I think Daryl spent quite a bit of time intimate with Leah. More than we think. Great reaction as always
I dig the new hair color. Also, I laughed at the fish thing for 5 minutes, it's the most Dixon thing ever.
Daryl acted incredibly out of character in this episode. Also, it makes no sense for him to be so resentful towards Carol when he told her 2 episodes ago that they could still go to New Mexico and hugged her. Not to mention he went through the same thing as her with the whole punching Negan thing so he knows how guilty she feels. I'm not saying no one should be mad at Carol because she did fuck up a lot, but Daryl out of all characters should understand her and empathize with her. They've been friends for 10+ years after all.
EXACTLY! Why is no one talking about this? That part of the writing is so bad imo. He tells her two episodes ago that she still has him as a friend and now he's telling her she's on her own if she wants to leave? They should've had this conversation before that moment because it felt a whole lot like forgiveness. He knows how many children she lost and no one is gonna be in the right state of mind after something like that. Honestly Carol deserved to release her feelings just as much as he did because has not been perfect either. They both had stuff that needed to hear.
I think Maggie coming back and seeing her deal with Negan being free and alive has made Daryl rethink his position with Carol.
i think daryl was right to say that to carol, she’s not been a great friend to him and not properly apologising for what happened to connie when daryl is *always* there for her.
@@doodoorantsandreviews6767 he has a right to tell her she should've left forever? to say that to her best friend in the whole world? their bond has *always* been stronger than this. it really feels forced for him to stay so mad after carol already made peace with both kelly and lydia in 10B. she led the horde towards the cliff and has been helping rebuild too.
if she hadn't made amends then that conversation would've been believable, but she did. daryl knows she's been feeling like shit for all the people she got hurt and he's been in the same position as her too with glenn's death. he just looks like a hypocrite and a bad friend to me. especially after we saw how understanding of *his* grief carol was in the flashbacks.
this episode made 10x16 seem useless. he literally told her days before that "you still got me" and that they could still go to new mexico. how is that good and consistent writing?
zevranalenko Perhaps Daryl feels he has been supportive of her over quite a period of time that Carol was acting in reckless ways and he has just had enough.
I just watched 15 minutes of Katie fangirling over Daryl and i fucking enjoyed that :D Katie seemed a bit jealous tho
I don't often disagree but I really liked this episode and the whole Daryl-Leah thing a lot
as a donnie shipper i'm not too worried about leah getting in the way because all this happened before daryl even met connie and even after everything with him and leah, daryl still shown interest in connie
I 100% agree with u I love daryl and connie together I ship them😁
agreed!!
Great Reaction. I love that the first word you say is DOG. We all love DOG.
Also love your new hair color.
Dog deserves an Emmy. 🐕
They (Daryl and Leah) both so desperately want to be alone, but also be with people.
Reminds me of The Station Agent with Peter Dinklage.
Now this is entertainment I look forward to theese just as much as the episodes ♥️ I kinda feel like this episode was a bit rushed would've loved to see this storyline over two episodes
Same here. I look forward to her reaction videos as much as the new episodes. She is the best.
When Daryl went off on Carol it was brutal to watch
yes, i just dont want a spin-off with daryl and carol all bitching at each other
It's been years since I watched your channel, between covid and shut downs, I didn't even realize TWD was back on. Then I reached back into the world, and caught up. My first thought, after this episode, was what does Katie think. Thank you for keeping this alive.
Looking back to after the time jump when Daryl comes back to civilization, he is more open, communicates more, etc. Originally, we thought is was because he was stepping up to take Rick's place. With seeing this flashback, I think it explains his transformation and his time with Leah really influenced him
I actually really liked this episode, I’m happy they finally gave Daryl a girl
Daryl basically Spend 17-18 Months looking For Rick and seeing Leah a few times and then Spend 10 Months with Leah!
I think the point of the story here was less about Leah, and more about Carol. Otherwise, why would they have incorporated Carol into this episode. The parallel versions of shared conversations between Daryl & Leah, and Daryl & Carol mean something more is going on between the "friends". I find it interesting that Daryl didn't make his decision to stay with Leah until Carol told Daryl that she was going to be around less because she plan to spend more time with Ezekiel (& Henry). And, he didn't go off on her until after she found the note he left for Leah. I haven't "shipped" the two together since season 3, and that was just briefly. As time passed, I thought 'Nah, it's too late; so unlikely.' But there have been clues dropped that people are ignoring. I liked Connie, and thought she could be good for Daryl, but she & Leah could just be a distraction for Daryl.
Great reaction, Katie.
Carol and Daryl will never be a couple let it go.
angie 808 Agreed. No ship with me either but I just wrote almost the same comment a few minutes ago, lol.
@@burrichgrrl57 I don’t really ship them either. Too little, too late, I say. But can't deny the subtle signs that something more is going on. Frankly, I think Carol or Daryl, or both, might die before the series end. Despite the rumors AMC is spreading about a spin-off. I don't think it's happening. It doesn't make sense.
BTW...thanks for your polite comment.
I just have to say, that one scene with puppy “Dog” kissing Daryl was everything ❤️
Don't worry, I cried when Daryl called Rick brother
Gonna add the online theories here. Norman has said in interviews that Leah is not what she seems. She has a special forces tattoo and the knife she uses to cut Daryl loose is the knife he gives to Carol (seen in promo photos for 10x21 Diverged) and that Carol seems to be using to repair something (also from 10x21 Diverged promo photo). Leah also refers to her "squad" that she fought with from before the turn and that they stayed together after the Turn. I think she is either a Reaper or possibly CRM. Remember in TWD World Beyond... Huck was under deep cover to befriend Felix and to get Hope to the CRM headquarters and pulled very sketchy stuff. So this is all very intriguing.
Hoping both Daryl and Carol find happiness
KATIE!! That Hair Though!!!! 😍😍❤️❤️
He didn't meet Connie yet so I'm fine with it.. Good episode.
Same. Maybe Leah opened his heart more towards Connie.
@@KCohere33 yeah and that won’t end well
I was with you I had tears in my eyes when Daryl said he was looking for his brother,,that's the first time he's ever said it aawwww...
Daryl and Leah relate to each other so much idk what shes on about
when Leah gave Darryl the ultimatum they had met like a year and a half before that and were together for ten of those months
I loved this episode! Daryl deserves some love.
This episode is just a lot to take in. It's actually really well written and believable that Daryl and Leah would get together. Both are broken and lonely when they meet and they both come from broken families. They actually have a lot in common and as we see Daryl was hella awkward when they were forced to physically be close. But like holy hell writers WE JUST MET HER 20 MINUTES AGO! Like it took them like a year to get close so yeah it's believable Daryl could get to this point but we don't really know her at all, so it all hits us so fast. It wasn't poorly written or put together, quite the contrary, it was just a lot to take in in just one episode. But with all the time jumps it felt rushed, even though it wasn't at all. This is definitely the weirdest TWD episode ever.
Perhaps the reason they have a lot in common is that one is Tyler Durden and the other is the narrator.
I was frustrated when i first saw this but when you see the next D&C episode in 10c and season 11, I know this will all make sense by the end of season 11.
You won't throw up Katie! The instinct of self preservation will overcome most and all obstacles!
I don't have any remorse for her for the same reasons you stated...we just met here. But I feel awful for Daryl. Everything he's been through since we met him. Cutting himself off after Rick's death, then meeting someone who apparently brought him real happiness for the months they were together...only to have her leave like that. I've been on the receiving end of someone literally going poof on me and it is some gut wrenching shit. He's endured so much. I honestly think if it weren't for Judith he would have bounced a long ass time ago.
Keith One thing I find strange is how little the reactors I have watched have any reaction to the scene where Daryl thinks he's found Rick's body. Honestly my heart dropped and then the scene with the storm? It really broke my heart yet no one has mentioned it so far in my perusings.
You never do hear anyone complain about normal shite.I agree.Once,I would love to hear Neegan say he has a problem sleeping because his right nostril gets clogged or congested at night.
lmfao
She's back in Season 11! BTW, Carol should never let the name 'Connie' pass her lips ever again! LOL
I think Carol had it coming but they will be ok.
So many similarities between Leah and carol..both losing children..both so strong..both loving on my daryl.
Ever stop to think that Leah is an amalgam of all the people Daryl has loved and lost?
Cue the overload of love for Katie and her hair. Nobody is wrong I love her too 🤣
Rumor is that Leah is actually pregnant and that's why she made Daryl choose. Leah could show up at the commonweatlh, taking over Michonnes daughters role in a sense, but its Daryl that finds her and maybe a kid as well. Rumor is a little tough however, considering the spin-off. I couldn't really see Daryl leaving his own kid behind, no matter how safe they were... UNLESS its for Rick, to find him after finding out about his location.
Hy, haven't seen your reaction but I just want to say that I having waiting for this moment. You are the best
❤️
Daryl: “I belong with you”
Katie: “Who the fuck is she ??????”
😂😂😂😂 Same girl, same!
I don't think choosing Leah was out of character for Daryl considering this is the 'flashback version' of him, which was in a very vulnerable emotional state. At that point of time, he was still doing his self-exile thing and was holding a tremendous amount guilt for playing a role in Rick's "death". Meanwhile he sees Carol and everybody else starting to move on with their lives, and I kinda get why he thinks it's better if he just goes away. Keep in mind he didn't really return to his place in the communities until s9 after Carol and Henry visit him in the woods.
Now he knows he belongs in Alexandria but at that time it was easier to be in the woods. Now we know in season 11 it was toxic.
@@joanneweller8881 yeah, I feel like they made a very intentional choice to not show any real intimacy between them on-screen. Idk, the amount of people I've seen who seem to be under the impression that the show wants them to like their relationship is just a little odd to me - I always got the sense that it was pretty toxic and the show itself portrayed it as such.
@@bucket399 well angela kang said there would have been an uproar showing after only knowing character for half an episode. It all makes sense now. Angela kang shows the relationship info in season 11 recaps and then confirms it was toxic after season 11 episode 8.
I love these types of episodes so cool to watch what Daryl experienced after Ricks disappearence
Kate is right about this chick. Even though we just met her, the writer's should have hinted about her existence like about 10 episodes ago. Not just dumb a complete stranger and giver her history with our favorite character and expect us to be emotionally invested in her. Good catch Kate....
They actually did hint about her. Melissa mentioned it on Talking Dead. Her and Daryl were having one of their conversations and she mentioned about "Her dog." I don't remember the exact episode but I do remember going "What?" "Who's her?" when I saw it....
I feel like Leah will appear in S11 at the commonwealth, maybe Daryl will take the michonne story line, where she finds out her daughter is still alive at the commonwealth. Instead it’s Daryl finding out Leah is still alive at the commonwealth
Scenario: Connie eventually shows up and she and Daryl rekindle their budding relationship then one day Leah shows up to Alexandria with baby Daryl... aaand discuss.
(btw, from the time Leah captured Daryl and the time she came up missing/gone, 27 months elapsed so a little more than just 5 minutes).
I hope not , cause then it becomes like a soap opera triangle love story .... 🤔
OMMGG THEN WE’D HAVE A BABY RICK, BABY GLENN AND BABY DARYL😭😭😭😭😭
@@silentwhisper8616 D
Repopulating the apocalypse.
@@jannettecuevas2029 Oh, you mean like Rosita, Saddiq, Father Gabriel and Eugene? Like that?
Loved this episode. So good. Also not sure why so many people find it weird that he was with Leah for a while. During this time it made complete sense. Not weird at all. Great character growth. People need to chill the hell out and stop living your lives based on “shipping” character. Just relax, people. It was *NOT WIERD* or contradictory *AT ALL.* Also they spent 10 months together. Not just a couple days)
Stating the obvious, but you are indeed, the best TWD reactor EVER.
Daryl got a sex offering from carol when they just got to the prison.then he was working on connie,until,she come up missing.then he (it seems) finally got it on with leah.question,..is...and some people are asking now,could there be a knocked up leah,showing back up at some point.dont imagine,anyone is up on birth control at this point,in the apocalypse.
@@timothysimmons3714 Leah is the prettiest of the three, that's for sure.
@@GeorgeMetalman I haven't checked,but is that Lynn Collins that played in one of the Wolverine movies
@@timothysimmons3714 Correct
Five minutes for us = a couple of years for Darryl. So technically it wasn't after 10 years he's with her, he took time to trust her; he's no fool. Remember that time jump started at 5 years earlier.
I think she's the reason why he liked Connie but kept a little distance between them. And the way she gave him that ultimatum I'm guessing it's because she thought or knew she was pregnant. They may be setting up a love triangle once they find Connie. Depending on whether or not Leah was taken or left on her own accord.
I think Leah realized she was pregnant and that explains the moodiness and giving Daryl an ultimatum... I believe this all ties into their spin off.
Except Leah and Daryl don't have a spin off..Daryl and Carol do.
and this was two years ago?
Katie, you're totally right in your opinion!! It's spot on!! You don't have to be a writer to know a character.All you have to have is your own thoughts, feelings and imaginations about the show.These writers were mixing their medications or they ran out.
That was a great episode IMHO. I love it when writers upset fan expectations. We forget that with a show like this we only see vignettes of the characters lives. We didn’t see anything of what went on with their lives for 5-6 years, so it’s eminently possible something like this would have happened
Darryl obviously was Leah as a kindred spirit. They were together for 10 months it seems (according to the captions in the show). His guilt over leaving is obviously what has helped him to learn to stay around the communities once Carol got him back
And it’s really good that he’s expressed what everyone has been feeling about Carol....
Angela Kang has been absolutely brilliant at sending the show in directions that make fans confront their comfortable notions of characters, what they do, who they are with, who is right & wrong etc. if only TWD had her running the show a few seasons earlier!
You are the funniest person talking about TWD and I can tell it's natural I wish I had come across your channel sooner
I think you missed the implication here. He knew Leah for at least a couple of years. And they were together for around ten months after that. They could have done a better job of explaining that. No hate meant at all! I'm just trying to help :). I do think it's weird that they had Daryl's first romantic encounter be with someone we've never met before. As a Donnie shipper, I'm not really worried about it. Even Carol said she saw something between them.
I think Daryl's "relationship with Leah" is him trying to come to terms with himself and all he's lost. Because you're right. This romance with someone outside the group is not Daryl.
totally out of topic but your hair looks so good here. the hairstyle and the colour are so pretty. i stan one chaotic and stylish girl over here
That out the biggest smile on my face dude, thank you so much!
I think it really helps that they are such good friends in real life. They have a great chemistry between them and I can’t wait to see their spin off show.
3:05 i think because he knew if he even KNEW maybe he was okay he had something to keep fighting for.
Sorry but it all made sense and I’m hoping for Daryl’s child at some point. Remember, all these eps are is setup for the final season. I love the ep
When he gave the fish to her they knew each other nearly 2 years
Fair enough. It's just felt like a lot to cram into one epsiode!
@@katieoshaughnessy8086 it did seem like that. Like your reviews on TWD
Omg I was feeling the exact same way as you were! For fucks sake! I had no feelings towards that lady! I was furious about the fact that she made ultimatums for my boy! What the hell? Like he would leave her family for this woman he knew for a fucking few minutes!!?? What the heck?? I hated it!
I loved the baby Dog. I loved that he called Rick his brother...
The rest of it? Bullshit.
I want to erase this nonsense off of my head. Too rushed.
If we saw this happening during these two seasons, I would buy this.
This was just stupid.
Lmao someone’s jealous
@@Horrorlover1978 Nah. More like outrageous 👍
Honestly I don't care who Daryl ends up with whether its Connie or Leah I just want my favorite character to be happy lmao
I think these 6 extra episodes are meant to show us thinks they never really had the time to. With last episode reintroducing Maggie, this episode focusing on Daryl's 6 year journey outside of the communities and of course episode 6 being Negan's backstory.
Darryl knew her for a year in this episode.
Season 9 episode 14 michonne asks daryl if he's ok being alone while their out looking for Rick, he's reaction says it all.. Maybe that's the answer we're all looking for 🤔 awesome reaction as always!
7:28 Daryl being Daryl hahaha
New hair looks adorable! But yeah, it definitely felt sort of odd pushing some random woman onto Daryl, but at the same time it was a few years with only moments being shown of what happened between them. I couldn't really feel for Leah since we don't know much about her, but it was still pretty powerful to see Daryl's actions and feelings.
DARYL KNEW LEAH FOR ABOUT A YEAR!
Katie ain't happy with some stranger getting with her Daryl 🤣
So excited about ur reaction one of my fav episodes👌🏻😍 btw love ur Hair looks great
The Leah/Carol similarities and giving Carol Leahs knife. Daryl and Carol are Best relationship and best two characters on TV ever!
This Darrell and Carol show is setting up the spinoff after TWD ends. But obviously they patch up their differences before The End since AMC has already announced the new D & C show. Leah happened between Rick being taken by the World Beyond people and the Whisperer War. Bet she reappears. The Commonwealth arc is going to set it all up.
I agree that it was quick between Daryl and Leah but I think we need to keep in mind that it was a massive time jump. So there's lots of things we won't be able to see. I would honestly rather see him end up with Connie cause their connection is more natural than something from a time jump.
I believe she left because she got knocked up and didn’t want that to be the reason he chose her!!! One day she may come back with a Daryl junior!!!
exactly.
I honestly hope not. I think her coming back is warranted because just a one off act doesn’t make sense. Bit her coming back with a new squad maybe. It makes sense. I think she saw even daryl had a family. She was hurt he didn’t choose her. She went to find her own family/squad. For her to get
Pregnant? No. Lazy writing.
But her coming back is a new choice potentially for future daryl.
😳😳 I kind of want that but I wish Connie was with him 😭
I don't know why but i love Katie's new hair:) so cute i swear!
for clarity, Daryl and Leah knew each other for years before the whole "who do you belong with" talk.
shame they can't exactly earn the audiences full love and care for a new character by showing a lot of flashback cutesy scenes.
but it did establish Daryl's sexual orientation and that he can have feelings for people more than just friends
I think we'll see Leah again. I think she's a reaper, she mentioned she was with her squad "sounds like prior military". The reaper guy from last episode looked like he was past military. She also had a skull tattoo, (skull/reaper), reaper sounds like it could be the code name for their platoon. A lot of military get tattoos to represent their squadrons.
Hahaha Katie, bro...you gotta pay attention. They were together for over 10 months. Calm down lol. At the table when she told Daryl to choose, 15 seconds earlier it said "10 months later". 😁
I feel like the writers are trying to crush peoples souls finally giving Daryl and love interest but took that away from him because he’s not going to stop trying to look for Rick when we know ricks not really dead and Daryl will never find his body . Basically showing Daryl lost his chance at love for nothing
leah was like its either me who u have met for 5 secounds or your brother and family like dont make him choose
Daryl spent 10 months with her.
It’s taken Daryl this long to get a girlfriend ☠️ also I like the new hair! ❤️
And that ending line im sure theyll put in the next skybound vid lmao
Man, I love Daryl, but I still hope they're at some point going to point out the similarities between the way Glenn died VS the way Connie died. Both died because of the actions of the villains in this show, but prompted by the emotional and irresponsible reaction by either Daryl or Carol. When Daryl cried to Maggie about getting Glenn killed, her immediate reaction was to promise him it was not his fault and comfort him. Daryl being all snappy with Carol for Connie's "death" feels like he's being a bit of a hypocrite, considering he of all could probably understand how awful Carol feels. Now when Maggie's back, I would love to see this more than ever.
Marwest I don't really think the two things should be compared. For one Glenn's murder might have been triggered by Daryl's outburst but that was what it was. A single moment of rage while Carol has been acting recklessly again and again. She was obsessed with vengeance for Henry's death, at any cost. Daryl was emotionally devastated thinking that he caused Glenn's murder but Carol says "I was right" No, I don't think they are comparable. Besides, Connie didn't "die" by the actions of a villain. She was trapped in a cave in basically caused by Carol and a stick of dynamite.
Leah connie daryl become a throuple and carol is his side side chick 😂😂😂😂
This episode was amazing, his acting was unbelievable as usual
There was a lot of time jumps in the episode, he knew her for like 2 years so not quite 5 minutes 😂
Personally, I liked it. It's much more unrealistic that he wouldn't fall for a badass loner chick like her. And they took a YEAR to actually get together. Plus, you gotta admit, she's kinda right up his alley. And when Daryl Dixon throws a fish at your door, that's courtship, man.
I personally think its setting up Daryls arc in season 11 and the D&C spinoff.