One More Run: The Making of 'Spelunky 2'

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  • In this 2021 Independent Games Summit talk, Mossmouth’s Derek Yu describes the process of making a sequel to the successful roguelike game Spelunky and releasing it at the height of the genre’s popularity.
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Komentáře • 87

  • @CGDW2
    @CGDW2 Před 2 lety +187

    With his innocent face and calm way of speaking, you'd have no idea that Derek is one of the most sadistic minds of our time.

  • @tetotetotetotetotetotetoteto

    Great talk. Derek is an incredible game designer.

  • @jaewon679
    @jaewon679 Před 2 lety +8

    Spelunky HD and now Spelunky 2 are two of the best games I've ever played. Genius

  • @LucasKelleher
    @LucasKelleher Před 2 lety +34

    Derek Yu is greatest. I always enjoy his game-crafting wisdom. And even his Spelunky book was a great read-highly recommended!

  • @smellyfishstiks
    @smellyfishstiks Před 2 lety +42

    I've been working on the same game since 5/24/2020 by myself pretty much, and hearing you say that UFO50 and Splunky2 together helped you realize them makes me feel better.
    Like.. I'm going to take on a smaller, (in fact pico8 game) where the scope isn't something I can just run away with for forever, And I think that'll help me not get totally burnt out or get new ideas.
    Thanks Derek. I love your work and hearing you talk. Kinda like a idol to look up to in some aspects though I'm sure your human. Love from oregon.

    • @DonRawling
      @DonRawling Před 2 lety +2

      Try doing a gamejam. They're fun, and a great way to keep your scope small :)

    • @pumpkinduke1912
      @pumpkinduke1912 Před 2 lety +1

      if your able to say what game are you working on

    • @shadoninja
      @shadoninja Před 2 lety +1

      I worked on my own game for nearly 2 years before finally abandoning the project entirely. It broke my heart a little bit. I haven't taken on another project since :(

  • @yaboysqueeze7536
    @yaboysqueeze7536 Před 2 lety +32

    Love this! so much good information for developers new and older

  • @rudeboyspodcast
    @rudeboyspodcast Před 2 lety +4

    I may not be a huge fan of the Spelunky series, but I do really respect Derek as a game designer and he's very eloquent when it comes to explaining what he likes and what inspires him to make the games he does. Clearly it resonated with a lot of people, good for him!

  • @toadboydude5015
    @toadboydude5015 Před 2 lety +2

    I love the transparency we've always gotten from Derek and Blitworkz since release, So much love and time and blood and sweat was poured into this magnificent product. Spelunky means alot to me, it's been a huge part of my life since 2016, and I plan to continue to play not only Spelunky, HD and 2- but anything else Derek and Blitworkz release in the future. You're all such an inspiration and I could only dream of maybe working with you some day. Great talk, man.

  • @thebanjoranger
    @thebanjoranger Před 2 lety

    Thanks so much for being generous with your time, Derek!!

  • @benjaminramsey4695
    @benjaminramsey4695 Před 2 lety +10

    This was truly excellent! I appreciated the very honest and open approach to your communication.

  • @brandonstephenson8392
    @brandonstephenson8392 Před 2 lety +3

    Loved this so much. So interesting, and so well presented.

  • @rescuemay
    @rescuemay Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the countless hours of joy, Derek

  • @FlatThumb
    @FlatThumb Před 2 lety +10

    The Spelunky series is great...and STILL very underrated in my opinion.

  • @ZootNaps
    @ZootNaps Před 2 lety +2

    spiky and soft is an excellent distillation of these concepts. thank you for the great talk!

  • @narwhalguy3829
    @narwhalguy3829 Před 2 lety +1

    He’s so humble, made it a really great talk

  • @itsfela
    @itsfela Před 2 lety +1

    Love you Derek!!! An inspiration.

  • @emberstoneify
    @emberstoneify Před 8 měsíci

    Thank's for sharing Derek! Amazing game, you've brought so much joy (and frustration) to me and my 10 year old son. After playing the game +200 times he just found the multiplayer online mode - and he's hooked again 😅
    Splunk 3 or not - thanks for all the fun and good luck on your next venture!

  • @andrewman1
    @andrewman1 Před 2 lety

    I've been looking forward to this. . .

  • @barryherbers6090
    @barryherbers6090 Před 2 lety +1

    Best dude. Probably my biggest inspiration in developing my own (not a rogue like, but quite spiky)

  • @swedishidiots4740
    @swedishidiots4740 Před 2 lety +1

    amazing talk, I fell in love with spelunky hd and I'm just now starting to get good at spelunky 2. If there will be a spelunky 3 we will all be very happy. BUT you made such an amazing game that we are also happy with what we got :)

  • @unhelpful-harry
    @unhelpful-harry Před rokem

    This man is a legend!
    Also hearing him shout out brogue made me very happy, that’s the only ‘classic’ style rogue like I ever managed to win

  • @egoitzsanz4567
    @egoitzsanz4567 Před 2 lety +2

    Me at 23:53
    -What if UFO 50 and why I don´t have it yet?
    --> open Steam ->oh is not been released yet --> add to whislist --> go to whislist --> add to number 1 in whislist --> continue watching the video

  • @morganlak4337
    @morganlak4337 Před 2 lety

    So hyped to watch this ahhh

  • @13thnite
    @13thnite Před 2 lety +2

    What a great interview, Derek is so damn insightful and willing to share what he's learnt.. gotta love it.
    Also the fact that Andy came up with the back layers idea is huge! That adds so much depth to the game and it came from someone not even actively working on it.

  • @Raymando
    @Raymando Před 2 lety +37

    In my very controversial opinion: Spelunky might be an even more important rogue like than rogue - because it showed how the same fundamentals of perma death and random generation could transcend it's initial genre.

    • @aCavemanNamedJaR
      @aCavemanNamedJaR Před 2 lety +11

      Technically that means Spelunky is the most important roguelike, because Rogue is not a rogue-like LOL it's the original

    • @olliezoop
      @olliezoop Před 2 lety +3

      There are definitely enough roguelikes at this point that there are a few touchstones of the genre that surpass their genre's namesake in importance, at least imo. Spelunky, Binding of Isaac, FTL, Slay the Spire, just to name a few.

  • @AndresFnt
    @AndresFnt Před rokem +1

    Spelunky is the 1st Rougelike I played and it was life changingly awesome. I want to see a rougelike for a Fallout/Wasteland type of game, an xcom type of game, and a half-life type of game. It would be difficult to blend CPU-generated levels with any of the aforementioned titles but what i love about rougelikes is the randomness with a set of world rules and being forced to finish the game in 1 run without saves so as long as a fallout-style game is made to be finished in 1 go (short story/main objective) i imagine it’s possible to make it and other games a rougelike.

  • @flackbyte
    @flackbyte Před 2 lety +1

    The spicy food analogy is really good.

  • @chris_devlog
    @chris_devlog Před 2 lety +2

    Always a pleasure having Derek share some wisdom

  • @noisyether9211
    @noisyether9211 Před 2 lety

    So true man. After playing Returnal every game now I look at games differently. I'm making a game too that has lite elements of death and restart.

  • @Chris-Moore501
    @Chris-Moore501 Před 2 lety +21

    The "spicy food" analogy is perfect... kinda confuses me why you don't just call "spiky" games "spicy" games haha

    • @Flaeor
      @Flaeor Před 2 lety

      Spicy in the book community can also mean having sexual content.

  • @ghtddkc
    @ghtddkc Před 2 lety +1

    I wish we could have seen the more cartoony style of early Spelunky 2 he was planning to use. Simply to see the evolution

  • @astrojetson4958
    @astrojetson4958 Před 2 lety +2

    Genius, Reminds me of Miyamoto and Kojima

  • @JonnyClark
    @JonnyClark Před 2 lety +1

    Derek this is the best friken game ever. It will never die

  • @5izzy557
    @5izzy557 Před 2 lety +5

    My fav game, it actually got me back into gaming and I started streaming because of lunky 2

  • @anispinner
    @anispinner Před rokem +2

    yu make me wanna live

  • @Doomlaser
    @Doomlaser Před 2 lety

    Invaluable

  • @AkiraShine
    @AkiraShine Před 2 lety +1

    We finally get our lord explaining spelunky 2 and how he's known as a sadist :)

  • @nicholasmanig7190
    @nicholasmanig7190 Před rokem

    So did u get the idea from splunker for the nes?
    If u did u took a great twist on it

  • @Novous
    @Novous Před měsícem

    based on the trend of Spelunky 1, then Spelunky 2, Spelunky 3 will come out 6 months early for PlayStation, and every time you press a button it'll apply electricity directly to your balls

  • @richogerheide7291
    @richogerheide7291 Před 2 lety +4

    Nobody encapsulates what makes this game so great like seeing Northernlion, Malf, BaerTaffy, and Dan Gheesling all play it in different ways, and still all of them had an absolute ball. DEREK!!!!

  • @Flonkation
    @Flonkation Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, does anyone know where that multiplayer talk is, from .. Guillermo?

    • @TJ-ck3fp
      @TJ-ck3fp Před 2 lety

      I'm interested in that talk too. Maybe not uploaded yet?

    • @KelseyHigham
      @KelseyHigham Před 2 lety +4

      It’s on the GDC Vault for free.
      “Breaking the Ankh: Deterministic Propagation Netcode in 'Spelunky 2'”

    • @raph2550
      @raph2550 Před 2 lety

      It's on CZcams now

  • @toadboydude5015
    @toadboydude5015 Před 2 lety

    He did mention "More Spelunky 2 work" DLC?!?!

  • @streetpass3941
    @streetpass3941 Před 2 lety +1

    Derek W

  • @tvp61196
    @tvp61196 Před 2 lety

    so when are we getting Spelunky 64

  • @skizooooooooo
    @skizooooooooo Před 2 lety

    I want hot wings now, thanks

  • @beesforbreakfast
    @beesforbreakfast Před 2 lety +1

    Derek, I hate to ask, but it’s a tradition twenty-plus years old now: when _is_ Trigger Happy 2 coming out?

    • @TheOwOScout
      @TheOwOScout Před 2 lety

      Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc released on the 25th of November, 2010

    • @beesforbreakfast
      @beesforbreakfast Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheOwOScout How I wish we were talking about remotely the same thing

  • @NeoLoveCookie
    @NeoLoveCookie Před měsícem

    He is genius

  • @crackjackdan3531
    @crackjackdan3531 Před 2 lety

    We need spelunky dlc

  • @vtstht
    @vtstht Před 2 lety +1

    please a physical release

  • @rafresendenrafresenden.1644

    DLC WHEN!?

  • @F3ND1MUS
    @F3ND1MUS Před 2 lety +2

    Spelunky one was a great game I'm sure Spelunky 2 will also be a great game thank you to the game devs thank you for the hardware thank you for everything you do

    • @morganlak4337
      @morganlak4337 Před 2 lety +6

      It is already out! It's extremely good

    • @F3ND1MUS
      @F3ND1MUS Před 2 lety +1

      @@morganlak4337 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @hydrochloric007
    @hydrochloric007 Před 2 lety

    spelun🔑

  • @Kinnijup
    @Kinnijup Před 2 lety

    O__O

  • @delilu
    @delilu Před 2 lety

    :D

  • @shadoninja
    @shadoninja Před 2 lety

    I feel like the authenticity of this talk was diminished a bit by the dev's need to make sure everyone knew he started the roguelike genre. He calls attention to it at least 3 times in the first 10 minutes.

  • @ElectricKitty
    @ElectricKitty Před 2 lety +4

    spelunky 2 is a waste of time for me, i liked it at fist but after 160 hours i realized how little fun i was having, might be just me.

    • @mitchwebb7745
      @mitchwebb7745 Před 2 lety +3

      It’s about the process! You must have liked something to play that much, no?

    • @ElectricKitty
      @ElectricKitty Před 2 lety +4

      @@mitchwebb7745 nah, im a vivid critic of minecraft too and i played the shit outa that, game time does absolutely not translate to quality or enjoyment, ask anyone that played alot of mmos, survival, open world or battle royale games and its quick to see what i mean, often those who most play something more they can see problams in it and understand what they do and dont like.

    • @tannertroy7528
      @tannertroy7528 Před rokem

      @@ElectricKitty they get bored of it, its not all the problems. I have hundreads of hours on black ops 3. And im not abouta load up a run and play it for the 846th time and be like “wow so much enjoyment”. Things get worn and torn. Spelunky 2 is a great game, and you liked it at the start. You’re just wrong lol

    • @ElectricKitty
      @ElectricKitty Před rokem

      @@tannertroy7528 the game was always bad at least i could laugh at it in the beginning, this game is only good for competition

    • @tannertroy7528
      @tannertroy7528 Před rokem

      @@ElectricKitty Not true. This game has always been good, ofc its not triple a but its even better then some huge titles like cod vanguard. Thats not saying much but this game is one of the greatest of all time. The uniqueness of this is insane.

  • @skyxgaming3114
    @skyxgaming3114 Před 2 lety +4

    Tbh spelunking 1 is top 10 of my fav games spelunky 2 sucked in mybopinion

    • @zaddyzeeseburgnutz
      @zaddyzeeseburgnutz Před 2 lety +4

      Your opinion is wrong.

    • @otto7588
      @otto7588 Před 2 lety +1

      @@zaddyzeeseburgnutz No its not. Its his opinion that spelunky 2 sucks.

    • @steamedyam
      @steamedyam Před 2 lety

      My girlfriend is huge spelunky 1 fan and she says spelunky 2 seems like dlc

    • @zaddyzeeseburgnutz
      @zaddyzeeseburgnutz Před 2 lety +1

      @@otto7588 that makes them wrong

    • @otto7588
      @otto7588 Před 2 lety +1

      having any opinion isn't wrong

  • @omh1724
    @omh1724 Před 2 lety

    good talk, too bad the game isn't good

  • @ItsRayful
    @ItsRayful Před 2 lety

    that is one cocky individual