Golf Lesson: STOP Raising A High Handle At Impact
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
- In this golf lesson with fellow Milo Lines Golf Academy coach, Henry Fall, we discuss why he often gets a high handle at impact.
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This resulted in some heel strikes, blocks and pushes, and occasional hooks and over draws. To stop the raising of the shaft, we looked and not only was his body was doing (moving into the ball), but also the club face and right hand grip matchup. End result was a lower handle at impact. Hope you enjoy this lesson!
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Very nice lesson guys, loved it. Now for a lesson from me. When you leave a long row of divots like you did here, and you start another row right next to it, please leave at least 2 inches of grass between the rows so that the grass will grow back much faster and not take 1-2 months to grow back. Thank you, greenskeeper will love it too!
Point taken, thanks for watching sir!
Awesome video and topic !
Glad you enjoyed it Aaron!
What I like most is his divot pattern. One long strip instead of 20 random divots. If only everyone learned to do this we'd be able to hit off grass ranges much more often.
Milo, you never mention the D plane. Raising the handle changes the D plane and most people have no idea what that is, which is probably why you never mention it.
I have one suggestion that I'd like to see - have Henry attempt to swing with the face wide open through impact as if he was only going to glance the inside edge of the ball with his normal grip. It can't be done, at least not at full speed, but it allows the clubface to close naturally through the engineering and physics of the club instead of by manual manipulation.
One final question: was Henry a slicer in his early golf career? I'm only speculating but he seems to have an unconscious fear of the ball going right, at least in this video, (which I'm not sure isn't just a scripted setup, either way it's great content.) He's an elite player and I do like the fact that he's getting a lesson. Everyone can improve and it's so hard to coach yourself.
great session.
Thanks for watching Jim.
I have made significant progress recently with more dynamic pressure shifts and the right amount of left bend and right bend. But my results were consistently left, and I tried the adjustment with the handle Henry made. This tells me to weaken my grip and check position at the top to not be too shut when rotating correctly. Great advice.
Thanks for watching Jim, let me know if I can be of any further help - milolinesgolf.com.
Hi Milo in order not to raise the handle at impact at the start of my downswing I do a karate chop to my ball with the heel pad of my trail hand. It maximizes the lag of my club head to the ball is a cool feeling to boot. Cheers
Great video. I have a very shut takeaway and high hands at impact. Will put this in play.
Thanks for watching! If we can be of further guidance, please do check out our online academy where we offer monthly analysis. milolinesgolf.com
Why so many negative comments , I'm suffering from closed cubface on takeaway and feel this is causing high handle impact , I will give this a try , very informative video . 👍
All about match ups
Yep
Love this vids. Shot tracers would be helpful
I'll need to up my editing skills
This is great. I am pretty much a carbon copy of Henry, I’ve battled high hands at impact and skinny toe divots forever
Perhaps this helps, but can be various reasons. Thanks for watching Brad!
Nice free flowing swing
It's a good one
This is a super cool look in Milo!!! Thanks! Wouldn’t it help if Henry was doing this a little slower? He’s hitting each one at full speed just like the rest of us when we’re trying to make chamges
Yes, although with a grip/face change for him it's not much. He was smoothing some of these.
Wow man this is really helpful for me. Is there a corresponding feel at the finish for this?
Perhaps this can help: czcams.com/video/7EcXddwJaDE/video.html ... This is a feel for Henry we have worked on before for him to use his left side more efficiently. But in this case, the shut club face was causing issues.
Some Rory matchups there. Small move off the ball and a more cupped lead wrist. Like it!
Yea strong left hand match ups
What do you mean buy radial at waist high would that be more hinge. Thx also rolling to get toe up is bad?
Great video, Milo! Thank you so much. But could you explain to me what you mean by "more radial" at P2? You mean the left wrist more radial, right? So the clubface aims more toward the sky and is not that shut at P2?
Yes
Hey Milo, I have this exact problem and have for years now. My biggest concern is that, the weaker my grip gets, the more my body sub consciously makes my left wrist go into flexion at the top of my swing. It’s completely reversed, the weaker grip that I have, the more shut my face is at the top. Do you have any idea that could help?
I do this so bad…on a track man I’m like 8 degrees toe down. I struggle with pull hooks when I get to doing this pretty bad. I have to try to hit a fade just to hit is straight. When you lift the handle with a stent grip it shuts the face even more at impact. It sucks. Hard to kick. I got away from Interlock grip also as it for me was closing the face too much also. Went to a vardin grip and weakened grip to more nuetral…but it is so hard to get used to and strike the ball pure. Hate offset irons too…makes it worse for me.
Just as I’m deciding not to play anymore I feel like you made this video for me.. all my instructor does is try to get my face correct at top I noticed my high hands at impact.. I hand back 80 percent of the time really struggle to get club square to open at top though at waist high I’m toe up…
Can you use the down and around concept on a driver also? Just playing the ball farther off the front foot?
Yes sir
Would high hands cause hanging back also?
Very helpful. However, when I emulate the door knob opening wrist movement in my downswing, I find the club getting more vertical with the handle rising - is this normal? Thank you!
The handle typically rises some amount, I'd have to see your swing to give you the best feedback.
I have a really strong grip like 4 knuckles. Everyone said that’s a bandaid to a bad golf swing. What’s your opinion on that?
Berger seems to do ok with a 4 knuckle grip
Hi Milo, is he a Malaska or Bender type of swing? I think it's Bender right? Many tks !
How about neither! He’s Swinging Like An Athlete
When you say “weaken the grip” are you referring to the top hand or the lower hand in relation to the top? I find that I get different results with each and don’t really notice which should come first. Thanks
Trail hand
@@MiloLinesGolf I almost feel like my trail hand is on top of the club when I do that. Is that normal or am I going to far? I have heard my hole life that the "V" should point towards my right ear but it doesn't really feel that way to me. Thanks again
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Definitely, if you watch how Rory hits balls he’s got a uo backswing and when he comes down he’s almost getting the heel into the ground first. It’s like a chop but with low hands. Very powerful but you have to time it, or play with a more vertical lie angle.
The opposite would be like a guy who raises the handle through impact or has a lot of face rotation through the ball.
Rory used to sling it a lot more than he does now. Really interesting.
Also the lie really impacts how smoothly the club goes through the turf. Toe down really tends to grab and drag a lot more and feels kinda horrible.
Lie angle is 🔑
How much do you charge Henry for that fix? @milolines
😂 he has to put up with me which is a tall task for anyone
Ok I’m almost buying into this but please explain Brooks and Dj and all other players that play with closed club face…thx
In relation to their wrist conditions and grip, it's not nearly as closed as the matchup Henry had here. Understanding and aligning the matchups is the crucial part.
Do you have a video explaining match ups and what’s the coast for you to evaluate a couple videos. Thx
I have an online academy which includes a monthly analysis, with the first one by me... milolinesgolf.com. Here is also a video that could help on matchups: czcams.com/video/H6VRYvFrFEk/video.html
Does a high handle sometimes cause a shank?
Can
I have exactly this issue but it’s really hard to make this change carry over from range to course.
I'd have to see your swing Richard to give you the best feedback. Have you checked out our online academy yet? milolinesgolf.com
What can he do so that the clubface is not that closed at P2? It still is although he tries really hard not to do it in the practice swings… But as soon as he wants to hit the ball the clubface is closed again…
He's gotten a lot better at it, a lot of it was that his club face was slightly closed at setup and how his wrists were operating.
Different impact sound towards the end without the shut face.
flushers!
Unfortunately not knowing how the wrist worked could entangled you in the same downswing motion again and again …..
It could so that is why a player needs to understand the matchups that apply to their grip type
When you set up on one shaft plane and then hit it on another shaft plane you have to STAND UP to make room to hit it. My conclusion would be to learn to set up and hit it on the same shaft plane, meaning that his hands and his space to the ball in not correct! Example> a carpenter does not take the hammer back and lay it off to return it to the nail, he simple takes it away and returns it on the same plane, same with squaring an axe on a tree, or a hockey player with a hockey stick!
I think saying "stop raising the handle at impact" is misleading if only because you can raise the handle by lifting the club upwards without changing the angle of the shaft to the ground. What you really mean to say is "stop raising the angle of the shaft to the ground at impact" . If anything you want the angle of the shaft to the ground to start moving lower at impact as you come around.through impact.
Lots of ways to raise the handle. In this case it’s with early extension and tilt to prevent the pull draw
@@MiloLinesGolf Yes there may be many ways to raise the handle, but in any case the angle of the shaft to the ground would change accordingly and that was the point I was making you did not explicitly acknowledge.
A downswing that is too steep causes a lot of problems.
Yep, sure can!
Interesting but of little to no value to me or youtube viewers
What would be of value to you?