BPD Relationship Problem: You Don't Exist If I Can't See You (Out of Sight, Out of Love)

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    In this video, we’re going to discuss emotional permanence which is the feelings of abandonment, rejection, and emptiness that you feel when someone you love and trust cannot be physically present or immediately contacted. I will also go over 5 techniques I use with my clients to overcome this issue and build a healthy, secure and trusting relationship.
    Many individuals with BPD have a difficulty emotionally understanding that an object, or person you love and trust, exists when they cannot see them, or talk to them. This is related to an impairment in development to attain object constancy, which is a cognitive skill we typically acquire at around two to three years old. It is the understanding that objects continue to exist even when they cannot be seen, touched, or contacted in some way. These objects are called you’re “trusted objects” and often include your boyfriend, girlfriend, spouse, parent, friend, therapist, etc. For those with BPD it’s called a lack of emotional permanence because it relates to the emotional despair you feel when that trusted object is not visible or cannot be reached immediately.
    Developing emotional permanence is not easy, there’s no pill for it. It’s a complex issue, but so important to your development beyond BPD and to do it differently and have a secure relationship with not only trusted others, but with yourself as well. Leave me feedback about this video and how you have developed emotional permanence in your world.
    Daniel J. Fox, Ph.D., is a licensed psychologist in Texas, international speaker, and a multi-award-winning author. He has been specializing in the treatment and assessment of individuals with personality disorders for over 20 years in the state and federal prison system, universities, and in private practice. His specialty areas include personality disorders, ethics, burnout prevention, and emotional intelligence.
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Komentáře • 376

  • @bethanymcbx9258
    @bethanymcbx9258 Před rokem +343

    This is crazy 😥 I remember joking years ago to a therapist that I felt like I lacked object permanence, and what I meant by that was specifically about relationships. I can feel secure and happy when I’m physically present with someone, and then deeply anxious (panicky) and insecure as soon as I’m no longer with them, that they don’t like me anymore. It is torture 😥 it is a constant daily torture

    • @ange7422
      @ange7422 Před rokem +1

      It is TORTURE. Neurotypical people have no idea how bad it feels

    • @kurmi33
      @kurmi33 Před rokem +17

      I feel the same, been soothing myself a lot cause I love the guy I am with now and do not wish him to feel anxious due to my stress

    • @MandatheManiac
      @MandatheManiac Před rokem +16

      Yes I am the exact same way! I thought I was just crazy and overly jealous and paranoid all these years! Finally makes sense now.

    • @gotfullertlynnennenga4590
      @gotfullertlynnennenga4590 Před rokem +4

      100

    • @Tesis
      @Tesis Před 11 měsíci +5

      Yes and then once (I was very young) I had a long-distance romantic relationship… omg it was so. Bad. It was before messengers were a thing and you had to pay for each sms too, calls were so expensive as well. But I was young and in love and didn’t realize I felt so anxious and broken not because this is what love was - anxious and broken - but because I was just not a person who could do long distance in such a way. It screwed me up even more lol.

  • @calebnewell5032
    @calebnewell5032 Před 5 měsíci +60

    This concept ironically works as a double-edged sword. While people with BPD are terrified of being abandoned and ghosted, they are adapted experts at reflecting that very fear and using it to abandon and ghost their significant others. They split, then suddenly cut you out and all forms of communication. They don’t see you anymore, so now you don’t exist. They use their fears and triggers to now shut you completely out and THAT’s what’s so jarring about BPD breakups, for the one that doesn’t have the disorder. They make their own deepest fears a self fulfilling prophecy for YOU.

    • @user-fu7te7gv7v
      @user-fu7te7gv7v Před 2 měsíci +2

      She hurt me so bad man

    • @calebnewell5032
      @calebnewell5032 Před 2 měsíci

      @@user-fu7te7gv7v I’m sorry bro. Just know that it does fade. A year ago, waking up was the worst part of my day. The pain immediately rushed back in and I’d just lay there in the dark, brooding over the loss. After a year I finally don’t miss my ex AT ALL. It takes absolutely zero contact and completely putting them behind you. Look at the healing process like grieving a death. Whatever you do, during this time, contacting them is out of the question. For your own safety, sanity, health and future, leave them ALONE. Every time you pick the scab it’ll just bleed and it’ll just bring you lower and lower.

    • @calebnewell5032
      @calebnewell5032 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@steves3032 I’m in a very similar situation, but mine is a bit more serious than that. Just be grateful that there isn’t a felony charge against you. It’s very typical for borderlines to get the law involved, over breakups. Honestly, the protective order is helping you. Leave her alone, or you may find yourself in jail.

    • @calebnewell5032
      @calebnewell5032 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@user-fu7te7gv7v I responded to this, but it never posted my comment, or it deleted it. I’m sorry to hear that, bro. It took me an entire year to get over my BPD ex, but I truly do not miss her, nor even think about her anymore. It DOES get better. The most important thing you can do right now, is leave her completely alone. It can get very serious, if you don’t leave a borderline alone, after they’ve discarded you. I know it hurts, but it absolutely does fade.

    • @user-fu7te7gv7v
      @user-fu7te7gv7v Před 2 měsíci +1

      @calebnewell5032 man I don't understand we were together for 6 years and I was proposing in 2 weeks unbeknownst to her she just left went no contact and it feels like my whole world came crashing down around me I'm so very hurt I still love her with all my life

  • @rebecca2310
    @rebecca2310 Před rokem +96

    My partner has become an excellent support with this issue. Some solutions we've found are: the day before separation is our day to spend time together, we write letters that I can read while we're apart, we have talks about the fact that physical touch is an expression of love and not all of love, he sends lots of photos while we're apart, and he now knows that I need to hear factual statements about our relationship out loud (even as simple as saying I love you) because I find it hard to tell myself these things when I'm alone.

    • @viperb4148
      @viperb4148 Před 5 měsíci

      But I wonder of this is just masking the issue and not fixing it

    • @AnimosityIncarnate
      @AnimosityIncarnate Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@viperb4148 Yes, because we have permanent attachment issues.
      Even post ALL therapies when BPD can be in remission, research shows relationships stay strained...
      Because there's a fundamental issue with attachment, so it has to be mitigated SOMEHOW.
      I think not putting everything into one person all the time is the ideal way to go about it 🤷 but that's tough for everyone to get on board with

  • @nadia-bb5mn
    @nadia-bb5mn Před rokem +93

    Cat ran away, was sexually attacked without mom knowing, and my Grandpa who took care of me all the time died all in the same month when I was 3. I am married and after 14 years I am starting to believe my husband will come home and still love me. He always does, but it has taken years for it to sink in.

  • @kikie1973
    @kikie1973 Před rokem +138

    I never considered this as part of my BPD...I thought it was separation anxiety...when my husband is at work or at the gym, I feel so empty and lonely...this video has been so helpful, thank you

    • @BeingBetter
      @BeingBetter Před rokem +17

      I know exactly how you feel. When my husband is at work, I feel so empty, I start to "disappear". It's gotten a little better over the years, but it's still there. I could offer a little advice, not that I'm a shining example of recovery. You could use the time he's gone to listen to some music that he doesn't particularly like that you do like, or work on a hobby he's not interested in.

    • @kikie1973
      @kikie1973 Před rokem +11

      @@BeingBetter thank you...those are great ideas and I will have to try them

    • @keng528
      @keng528 Před rokem

      Super cool is u..💯

    • @LoveTruth44
      @LoveTruth44 Před rokem +3

      @@BeingBetter See, it's these types of comments that make me realize that, in order to be a great and compatible couple, you don't HAVE to have (or agree on) EVERYTHING in common. I'm over here still just trying to figure out what compatibility even LOOKS like, let alone figure out what the heck is "wrong" with ME ! 😂😅 Anyway, thanks for your comment, they help some of us out here in more ways than you even realize.

    • @Kelli5555
      @Kelli5555 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yes, I thought it was separation anxiety as well.

  • @kurmi33
    @kurmi33 Před rokem +43

    This explains clearly why only in romantic relationships I feel absolutely anxious when the partner is not available, takes me down the rabbit hole thinking he is cheating, he does not love me, he is just fooling around, how he would like me?, he is definitely trying to get back with his ex ... horrible thoughts that make me really unhappy. With a lot of mindfulness and meditation I put my thoughts to bed and in the morning once he text everything seems alright. I do not wish this feeling to my worst enemy.
    Thank you so much for your videos are eye opening and help to know where to work on!

    • @hannahk.3341
      @hannahk.3341 Před rokem +2

      I know the feeling. It's horrible to deal with, I wouldn't wish it upon a soul either. I hope you're taking care and getting better, I'll try to do the same!!!

    • @user-eq4vf7rk1b
      @user-eq4vf7rk1b Před 4 měsíci +1

      How do you manage this ?

  • @ryan7864
    @ryan7864 Před 3 měsíci +6

    This explains why the quiet BPD woman I met on a vacation and had an intense romance with, ghosted me the moment she returned home. The long distance made me invisible even though she treated me like I was her knight in shining armor.

  • @katherinelydon7306
    @katherinelydon7306 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I think the goal for me is to feel safe when alone.

  • @darkskill72
    @darkskill72 Před rokem +10

    For me it isn't You don't exist if I can't see you. It's more I don't exist if I can't see you. I feel empty, invisible non existent, yet when say my partner is here I feel whole, complete I am here. When they are gone, they don't vanish I do.

  • @BorderlineFaith
    @BorderlineFaith Před rokem +47

    I started telling the folks I'm dating about my BPD and my recovery. I feel that a lot of folks downplay the diagnosis and how we came about it. It's not a pimple. I'd love for it to just go away and I choose to be normal. But that's now how it works and I'm doing my best to be patient with me. I wish other folks could be more transparent and genuine. I've loved demons. Pure demons. I'm not afraid of anyone's dark because I'm not afraid of mine anymore. I just wish someone would be honest and say hey I'm fkd up in this way I love you though and then I can say it's okay I'm fucked up in THIS way and I really just want to love and be loved by you. Please.

    • @rubybonsparkletits2323
      @rubybonsparkletits2323 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Oh lord, same! I know my demons, I'm not scared of anyone else's. Just wish mine weren't so scary for others.

  • @StewARTist5
    @StewARTist5 Před rokem +65

    8:27 When my DBT therapist was unavailable, your videos were my go-to for grounding and pushing back on the sense of emotional impermanence. You are always available to listen to on CZcams and such a great source of validation and comfort to me.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem +20

      I'm so glad this video was helpful for you. I wish you well.

  • @derrickc6443
    @derrickc6443 Před 9 měsíci +14

    I have compulsive BPD to the fullest extent, thats ruined all the relationships ive had. Ive been in this lonely, shameful state for 9 months now. Youre the only channel out of the many ive watched, that gives me hope for myself. So thank you

  • @EstherH85
    @EstherH85 Před rokem +12

    When I was having trouble with this. I wrote a short note and posted it by my bed. It was many years ago, and I’m not 100% sure what I wrote. But it said ~ “he still loves you, even if he doesn’t say it” and I really had to start telling myself “nothing has changed, he still loves me, this is just my mind going off on a rant” and over the years, I firmly believe I now have full object (person) permanence. I was never diagnosed, because my symptoms were all internalize, I turned the anger inward on myself, no one ever knew, and I didn’t understand the feelings or thoughts well enough to talk to a mental health professional

  • @JewelApril13
    @JewelApril13 Před rokem +9

    I take pictures so I have something to look back on that evokes the memories. That way I know, hey if they didn't like me, or want me they wouldn't have done all these fun things with me.

  • @nappyfries
    @nappyfries Před rokem +31

    I’m very much an out of sight/out of mind kind of person. That’s one reason why I can get over someone pretty quickly especially if I’m not friends with them on social media. At the same time, if I’m missing my person but see them active on social media it gives me a bit of comfort bc it’s like they’re still there in a sense. Sounds weird I know lol but it can help me not freak out at times

    • @mouna7432
      @mouna7432 Před rokem +4

      Omg i m the same

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Yeah same. If I detach then I detach. It's kinda scary hw quickly I cn get over someone.

  • @nadiamarie9833
    @nadiamarie9833 Před 11 měsíci +13

    I just got diagnosed with BPD today. My best friend of 6 years is moving 3 states away in two days and I've been distraught over it. You put my feelings into words for me. Thank you.

  • @b108b
    @b108b Před rokem +36

    I’m struggling so much with this because nothing’s inherently wrong with my relationship, I just can seem to feel secure, safe and loved when I’m alone and this makes the whole experience of a relationship something less enjoyable at times
    I feel like I want to stay by myself until I’m “ready” to function properly with a partner but I don’t want to break up, neither want to be alone
    BPD is full of mind games and it’s exhausting

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem +15

      Sounds like you’re developing some good insight into that. It is more a perspective and BPD issue then it is related to your relationship itself. I want to encourage you to use that insight to develop adaptive strategies. I wish you all the best.

    • @bootdownthedoor
      @bootdownthedoor Před 11 měsíci +2

      It's so true..

    • @Sokal.D
      @Sokal.D Před 3 měsíci

      Does this perhaps mean that you don’t actually love your partner? As in, you allow the romantic relationship to continue just so you don’t feel alone, while your partner believes you consciously & actively choose & love growing the relationship & future with him/her.
      Are you with your partner just because he/she was & is available at a convenient time & happens to provide you enough presence & just enough company to be kept around by you?

    • @b108b
      @b108b Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@Sokal.D Funny. Your response reminded me of this comment I made approximately a year ago and…we’re not together anymore and all that part were “nothing was inherently wrong” was not true, I was in a toxic dynamic with this person and all of the fears that I was having were actually valid, not just in my head. There was a lot of manipulation involved so there I was trying to find the problem in me when the problem was actually him.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      ​@@b108bthis. Finally broke off a toxic rship and I'm legit done. He's so emotionally manipulative and most importantly, I don't feel soothed when I'm w him. I'm anxious, confused, sad, angry and on edge all the time when I'm w him AND when I'm apart of him. I just don't trust him like how I trust some of my guy friends and ofc most of my girls

  • @CatKingCole82
    @CatKingCole82 Před rokem +30

    This helps me understand why I do the thing with friends... ugh if only I had learned this before I lost my 2 best friends a few months ago because they couldn't put up with it anymore 😭 one actually helped the other move out while I was at work 💔 you can't imagine...

  • @jak9934
    @jak9934 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I’d like to say something about Dr. Fox’s idea that when we encounter incidences whereby we believe our trusted object has abandoned/rejected us, that we experience intense stress and can split at this point- but that fear no longer reflects the reality.
    For me that hasn’t been my experience. My husband of 26 years had an affair which absolutely echoed and reawakened/retraumatised my massive abandonment fears from childhood and confirmed again that I can still never count on a secure, trusting and soothing “object.”
    This wasn’t the past projected forward, this was in present time. My childhood fear did in fact reflect the reality.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you for sharing your personal experience. It's important to remember that everyone's experiences are unique and can vary greatly. It's unfortunate that your fears from childhood were confirmed, but it's also important to acknowledge that not all situations will be the same.

  • @egirl274
    @egirl274 Před rokem +6

    I keep a very lovely card my friend gave me for my birthday out on my dresser to remind me that as things change, our lives get busy, and she makes new friends, she still loves me and is still my friend. I used to see or call her as many as 3-5 times a week. Now it's once a week maybe as our lives and schedules and places we live change. It was a difficult transition for me, but her hand written card full of love reassures me whenever my BPD makes me doubt.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      This is so sweet. I have pictures and notes frm my friends pasted on my vanity too so I can see them every time i miss them.

  • @SupaFro
    @SupaFro Před rokem +14

    this is exactly what im going through.. was not ready for this

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Před rokem +3

      You're going to do great, just give yourself a chance! You're going through this now, but if you feel like you aren't up to it right now, you can come back and watch it tomorrow, or soon. It's okay to come back to something later if it's too much right now. : )

  • @nihilisticbarbie
    @nihilisticbarbie Před rokem +21

    I was just talking to my best friend about this very subject and how much I struggle with remembering that she still loves me even though she’s extremely busy and I feel my abandonment wound being triggered🥺😭 you so much Dr Fox!

  • @Bobby_101
    @Bobby_101 Před 9 měsíci +4

    FINALLY a video about why I cried every time I was left alone as a child!
    I kept telling people it's not because I'm scared to be alone, but because I worry for my parents. I cried every time I was alone till age 16 when we got mobile phones the first time, and suddenly it stopped, as I was able to access them instantly if I needed to.

  • @MamaCancer23
    @MamaCancer23 Před rokem +11

    Wow! Makes sense why I’ve behaved that way in the past in certain situations. When I was 2-3 years old I was told that my parents hung out & partied a lot & my sisters took care of me so I know that’s where my issue lies.

  • @natezeleznick
    @natezeleznick Před rokem +10

    I was the Trusted Object and Favorite Person for my ex who has unconventional BPD (Impulsive). She told me on our third date that she needed to have whomever she was with near her often or else she would start thinking about how much better off she is being single. That was a red 🚩, but in my Love-bombed state I didn't read much into it because every moment with her was heaven, so sign me up for having more of this all the time. Why wouldn't I want to spend all my time with her??? 🤦‍♂️
    Well, once the love bombing was over and the resentment/contempt phase started if I was literally five minutes later getting home from a Home Depot run for her than she expected because I stopped for a burger, I'd get texts like "Where are you???" "Are you alone? Is she pretty?" 😳 Seriously?! They just took a little while to mix the paint is all, but it became a constant cycle of accusations, defensive questions that were really accusations in question form, and always assuming the worst of me.
    I tried to ramp up my care and attention thinking that would help, and fell heart-first into the brainwashing. Thankfully she finally demonized me enough that she broke it off, and then got really pissed when I wouldnt "fight for her" or chase her (after being told in no uncertain terms "We're finished." "Don't ever speak to me again", etc...)
    I'm glad for the life lessons from this relationship and am now much better informed of warning signs but more than that, I know what I REALLY want and deserve from a partner.
    This video really hit home and brought a lot of clarity. Thank you for helping us!

    • @lochnessmunster1189
      @lochnessmunster1189 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Accusations in question-form.. you've hit the nail on the head there, buddy.

    • @huntersblades2895
      @huntersblades2895 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Sounds similar to the girl that's just broke up with me after 3 years. Even though logically I can see hiw unhealthy it all was and being the good guy trying to save her messed me up. Was yours a quick recovery I feel really confused and lost

    • @natezeleznick
      @natezeleznick Před 2 měsíci

      ​@huntersblades2895 Everyone is different, so I can't speak to the length of recovery or reintegration of your true self before this relationship, but I can recommend some valuable resources. 1) CODA (Codependents Anonymous) was a very important thing for me. It's free. It's very good. It really helped me.
      2) Trusted friends who could hold space for me as I went through my shit and did the deep shadow work that I brought her to me in order to instigate. 3) a meditation and mindfulness practice centered around forgiveness, grace, and gratitude. For myself AND for her.
      At the end of the day, pondering deeply on the following questions are what helped me the most; "How is this FOR me"? And "What do I prefer to experience now, and next time"?
      Best of luck in your learning and recovery. ❤

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Woops I did this with my ex too. It's nt like we wanna accuse you we just have a lot of issue but if she's not going for therapy then she should and maybe it's not just her, maybe you've done or said things that make her doubt u. Rarely is it 100% one person's fault so don't try to put the blame on her too brp.

  • @phunkmunkified
    @phunkmunkified Před rokem +15

    You're the coolest, Doctor Fox! 😎
    I appreciate you so much!! I've been struggling with emotional permanence, but I didn't realize it was actually a thing. I keep thinking I feel like a baby that hasn't developed object permanence and it's driving me up the wall. I'm in a long distance relationship and have been able to fly there at least once a month since we got serious, which helps so much, but I feel like I lose it whenever I get on the plane. Thankfully, the person I'm seeing is super patient and naturally gives me a sense of security. I hate that I need him nearby so badly and want to be able to give him space without losing myself in the process.
    I appreciate your videos so much, Doctor Fox!! You always do a great job of explaining what I experience or struggle with, and you give me tools to help manage myself. Thank you!! 💜

  • @thomaswilliams8752
    @thomaswilliams8752 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Hey Dr. Fox,
    Before I was diagnosed with BPD I wondered why I was so emotional when being alone. I knew it was unhealthy for me to have this fear of being alone and so I finally told my therapist, even though it sounds silly... I had this realization that it feels like 'I don't exist' when I can't be seen or heard as well. It's more of a feeling that I am the one who doesn't exist for me.

  • @craigmoye2322
    @craigmoye2322 Před rokem +22

    I don't struggle with the disorder but I needed this for someone I know, thank you!

    • @jamiesexton2522
      @jamiesexton2522 Před rokem +17

      Thanks for helping out a friend/loved one.

    • @GSR-oh3ng
      @GSR-oh3ng Před rokem +8

      Ya that’s really cool of you, there’s not many friends who would do this I don’t know a single persons who would lol. reading comments on videos like this always gives me some hope for humanity which is good cause I have been running out

    • @craigmoye2322
      @craigmoye2322 Před rokem +3

      It's not easy but I try my best

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      ​@@GSR-oh3ngmy friends don't watch these videos but they've picked up on how insecure I am and always give me reassurance through texts even when they're so far away frm me. There is good in people.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      ​@@craigmoye2322on behalf of the community we thank you.

  • @lmr45241
    @lmr45241 Před rokem +7

    I think it's helpful to talk to a trusted friend who understands you and your past, and set a protocol - sort of like an accountability partner. This person is responsive for these "urgent" moments when you need someone to give you respectful and gentle perspective, before you blow the situation up into something that really will alienate someone.

  • @WhitePelicansareReal
    @WhitePelicansareReal Před rokem +13

    I can’t even believe this came out today. Thank you Dr. Fox, I was journaling for a session about this very thing. Thank you for making this video longer than most, it is appreciated! I think I have had a breakthrough today and everything in here was the icing on the cake. You’re topics seem to be just what I’m needing to put the BPD puzzle together. A heartfelt thank you! 🙏

  • @AyMTor
    @AyMTor Před rokem +3

    I can't say thank you enough for giving us these tools. You are changing lives ❤️

  • @StatchanaReborn
    @StatchanaReborn Před rokem +7

    I've had this most of my life.. after my break up with my abusive fiancé it took me few years to learn away from this, but couldn't ever understood how deep this went! Explains so much, thank you again!

  • @RyeClarke
    @RyeClarke Před rokem +12

    Wow... This topic is too specific. I'm struggling with this. I'm looking forward to this video.

  • @ainhoamonasterio2736
    @ainhoamonasterio2736 Před rokem +4

    OMG I wish someone had told me about this years ago! It explains so much. Not a single one of my therapists has ever explained this to me. Thank you ever so much.

  • @RyanSoto-mr2ls
    @RyanSoto-mr2ls Před 7 měsíci +2

    I'm glad I was able to find this channel. Thank you, Doc.

  • @turner2952
    @turner2952 Před rokem +3

    Thank you so much, Dr. Fox, for helping us understand ourselves better, why we do the things we do, and for providing solutions for our emotional issues.

  • @mystrose333
    @mystrose333 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for this video! I knew about emotional permanence, but you have explained it in a way that helped me understand it better. This is something that I struggle with big time and have for as long as I can remember. One thing that I've found helps me remember that my online friends (for example) love me when they are not around is looking back thru DMs where they have said they loved me or said something that was meaningful to me and made me feel good. I've even had a couple of my closer friends who have learned about BPD write something for me that reminds me that I am loved and valued when I'm having a rough time and I get in my head. It sounds pretty simple, but it really does work. I hope this helps someone!

  • @jrti001
    @jrti001 Před rokem +3

    Wow! This was so helpful that I shared a link with my therapist. This has a been a huge struggle for me, nice to know I'm not alone. The 5 strategies for coping with this issue is much appreciated. Thank you for making this video.

  • @_hhh444
    @_hhh444 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Your videos are always so helpful and understanding. They really make me feel like I am worthy of love and compassion. Thank you, Dr. Fox :)

  • @onetwothree3578
    @onetwothree3578 Před rokem +2

    You are super cool Dr. Daniel Fox. 100%. Thank you for all the amazing help you provide. Thank you a thousand times.

  • @rogercastano5127
    @rogercastano5127 Před rokem +2

    Thank you Dr we all want to be better but it is tough. Videos like these help a lot. I can't fix a problem I can't recognize in the first place

  • @ericaferrer
    @ericaferrer Před rokem +1

    Thank you for this, Dr. Fox. I definitely need to check out that workbook.

  • @dori588
    @dori588 Před rokem +1

    Wow. I’m speechless. It was as if you were talking about me. I related to every single thing you said. I’m not even sure where to go from here with this information. The therapist who I had for 6 years did this with me. He was the first person who ever told me about object constancy. You really know your stuff Dr Fox

  • @arabellacox
    @arabellacox Před rokem +2

    Omg this is SO true! Didn't know it was because of BPD, I've lived with this forever but never knew this was a 'thing'.

  • @FlyyyAimcorexe
    @FlyyyAimcorexe Před rokem +2

    thanks alot for that video it helps me alot to learn and understand bpd my gf i recently got together with has it and it helps me so much watching your videos getting closer to her and making her feel safe and wanted 👍

  • @arabellacox
    @arabellacox Před rokem +7

    I am a hanging basket when it comes to love. I need constant reassurance and love, but just like the water that falls from a hanging basket, my partner has to continuously "water' me. A great day, a loving gesture or written word are fleeting moments, like building a house on sand. If u get my meaning?

    • @shaunlannary2848
      @shaunlannary2848 Před měsícem

      It's so tiring ?Do you do all the things you "need" done for you for your partner ?In my experience it was a one way street.I eventually stopped the sweet unreciprocated gestures as they were never returned.

  • @plaster.art.ho3
    @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

    I'm going through a breakup rn and words cannot begin to express how much your videos r helping me dr 🦊. Thank you soso much.

  • @ellenmaloney5401
    @ellenmaloney5401 Před rokem +13

    Too real. I really look forward to your videos, Dr. Fox. Thank you for everything you do here on CZcams-you’re kind of a hero to me :)

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Před rokem +1

      He has a good heart, I think. Also a great mind and communication skills. Solid boundaries, from what it seems. Really appreciate that he provides this information for free online to help educate the world.

    • @mgr9232
      @mgr9232 Před rokem +3

      and that he does it in a very gentle way by terms of his carried attitude and tone and cadence, its approachable, and it doesnt make you feel like a prosecuted/bad person for what you deal with with BPD. it makes me feel a similar sort of comfort to what mr rogers does.

    • @meowmom3296
      @meowmom3296 Před rokem +1

      Me too! I tell my son about following him. I appreciate his understanding.

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ Před rokem

      @@mgr9232 Wasn't Mr. Rogers such a gentle, calming, kind presence? I don't think I fully appreciate that until I was a grown adult.

  • @sydneyreed7056
    @sydneyreed7056 Před rokem +5

    Doctor Fox is, in fact, pretty damn cool haha

  • @evulka2012
    @evulka2012 Před rokem +2

    thank you! actually made me recall and realize all the times that my parents would leave me alone abruptly and were not available, in the situations when i felt physically unsafe and scared to death. fear of being alone not only to fill up the void, but also because the outer world, especially when the sun sets down, but also due to lack of trust to the world around you, no safe picture of the external world, and frankly no reliable and validating support...

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Yep. Our parents fucked us up. They were supposed to be consistent, loving, kind and compassionate but instead they were aloof, volatile & unpredictable. Therapy will help. And kindness and compassion to yourself. Sending love!!

  • @mortennox
    @mortennox Před rokem +2

    Looking forward to hear about this.

  • @lolahernandez6871
    @lolahernandez6871 Před rokem +4

    Oh yes. I remember dealing with that very intensely back in the days. Much much better now.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem +1

      This gives me hope thank you.

    • @lolahernandez6871
      @lolahernandez6871 Před měsícem

      Are you dealing with that or with someone who does it? 😮​@plaster.art.ho3

  • @voitmusic
    @voitmusic Před rokem

    Thanks.This goes a long way to starting to understand the abandonment feelings I've had all my life.

  • @elisabethstabel2082
    @elisabethstabel2082 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Your so right. Its so painful...experiencing the same movie over and over and over again

  • @brightphoebus
    @brightphoebus Před 3 měsíci

    I've done two slideshows about my Dad. One was for the memorial service, a overview of his life songs he liked, and the second was his impact on MY life, using my music. These were both introspective and valuable projects.

  • @madhatter42o
    @madhatter42o Před rokem +1

    Thank you Dr.Fox for this synchronicity.

  • @Jantonov1
    @Jantonov1 Před rokem +3

    You are super cool Dr. Fox! I don't have the out of sight/out of mind issue with people, I have it with moods. When I'm in a bad or hopeless mood, I can't imagine not feeling that way. I've been jotting down what happens on a good day so I can reference it when I'm down. I feel silly doing it. Like I'm a preteen writing in a diary but it helps.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Never feel sorry for prioritising your mental health!! You're doing great!! 💙💙

  • @shar4012
    @shar4012 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video Dr. Fox didn't Realize that this is what's happening to me that deep feeling of loss it but it definitely happens every time when my husband goes to work right when he's leaving it starts I feel so alone or when I can't get a ahold of someone but just wanna thank u for all the videos u do!

  • @lynntoytrainmuseum8973
    @lynntoytrainmuseum8973 Před rokem +9

    🫣. The fact that THIS CHANNEL exists, even when I am not viewing CZcams, is a miracle for me that is “big with blessings.”

  • @bewington
    @bewington Před rokem +2

    When I started therapy for my PBD I was seeing 3 different therapist, with at least one 7 days a week.
    They became my comfort persons until I quickly selected one I focused on.
    It takes a strong therapist to deal with a BPD person.

  • @corinneyoung6029
    @corinneyoung6029 Před rokem

    Thank you Dr Fox!!! This post helped me understand what I am struggling with

  • @brightphoebus
    @brightphoebus Před 3 měsíci

    My Dad died 4 years ago. I sometimes imagine his presence and talk to him, and remember positive memories to bring him back. I can remember his voice, and things he did to make me laugh. Yesterday was his birthday. I talked to him yesterday. It's nice to be able to choose the good memories, and let the rest go.

  • @Swashbucklebuckle
    @Swashbucklebuckle Před rokem +4

    And here I am, in a long-distance relationship with my gf, who I am sure has BPD, wondering why she cheated on me after we could spend a lot less time on daily video calls due to my new job... Thank you for explaining it so well!

    • @peterbalac1915
      @peterbalac1915 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Same here buddy, they are prolific cheaters think long and hard about the times they were unavailable or out with a so called girl friend ? Mine was a pathological liar .

  • @asuevill
    @asuevill Před rokem +1

    Never thought of it like that, but that’s exactly how I feel. Thank you!

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem

      I'm so glad this video was helpful for you. I wish you well.

  • @luciamixon4156
    @luciamixon4156 Před rokem +3

    That explains it. Thank you.

  • @user-ej5jc5dk1e
    @user-ej5jc5dk1e Před rokem +2

    My mother was hardly ever there when i needed her . She was suppose to be my main care giver . I remember very little from the first 4 years of my life hardly nothing. I remember her putting me in the back yard to get a ten and she left back to the house to cook or clean . Cook mainly . She was a very bad cook . She was very very Post Traumatic from the Second WW . Wasnt really able to be a mother . Didnt have the Patience , love , south or contain a baby . Idont remember for how long she used to live alone in the back yard . I remember it was extremely hot summers and i know for sure it was a permanent thing on summer . I have very little memories . I remember she was hardly ever there when i needed her . When there she was extremely nervous shouting and violent .

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem

      Sorry to hear about your experience. I appreciate you sharing it. Thank you and be well.

  • @user-ik4zl1gn4u
    @user-ik4zl1gn4u Před rokem +1

    Looking forward, Doc!😊

  • @nameherenamehere9221
    @nameherenamehere9221 Před rokem

    So thankful for you Dr Fox. Be blessed. These videos have given me so much understanding l.

  • @ZinniaGulden
    @ZinniaGulden Před rokem

    I needed to see this. I actually haven’t clicked on any of your videos for over a year now because I’ve been in severe denial about my BPD. This is due to being gaslit repeatedly by professionals. I actually cannot comprehend how psychiatrists and therapists (at least the ones I’ve seen) are even allowed to give a diagnosis without a lengthy psychological assessment. It logically makes no sense.
    My psychiatrist even said to me “sounds like some BPD going on”.
    Like what?? What a lazy, unprofessional thing to say.
    So yeah, I think a part of me wants to deny that a I have this illness. But I cannot any longer. My splitting has become so often now. I don’t even understand how one minute I truly believe my partner is a narcissist, evil, he likes that I was abused as a child, hes cheating on me, etc. My brain tells me very sick lies that are clearly stemmed from my parents being abusive.
    But now here I am, typing this and I think my partner is the best thing in the entire world and I’m a terrible person for everything I put him through

  • @ArcticAirUltraPro
    @ArcticAirUltraPro Před 10 dny

    This is helping me a lot and exactly what I need to work on. Love your videos as always

  • @noonas1
    @noonas1 Před rokem +1

    Spot on, couldn’t be anymore correct

  • @disalistiani3260
    @disalistiani3260 Před rokem +1

    thank you for the helpful, mindblowing, video Dr. Fox

  • @petite__cata
    @petite__cata Před rokem

    I love you dr. Fox, thank you so much

  • @truelady4085
    @truelady4085 Před rokem

    You are super cool!!!! Thanks for all u do!

  • @Jay-oc8rl
    @Jay-oc8rl Před 5 měsíci

    I just ordered the workbook 🙏🏽

  • @fionacate4386
    @fionacate4386 Před rokem

    Thanks for this it's very enlightening 🙏💖

  • @CanadianBear47
    @CanadianBear47 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for exploring that disapir

  • @suekelsey1329
    @suekelsey1329 Před rokem +2

    Thank You!
    Everyday, many times everyday I cry and sometimes breathing so fast like l cannot catch up with myself.
    l need much better help than I am getting now.
    Right.
    Welfare does not pay for the Kind of help I need and this town does not have a REAL mental health...
    l pray a lot 🙏🙏🙏

  • @desserthound
    @desserthound Před 11 měsíci +2

    I just found this video through your shorts feed. Wowowow! Object Permanence 😱 Revelation that was much needed! It goes to show, you can be with the most faithful/favorite person in the world, but still need to be reminded about the true reality. Wowow! Tied to the past is not good! 🫨 Many more need to hear about this. Thank you for sharing this video.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 11 měsíci +1

      You are so welcome. I’m glad that you enjoyed the video and welcome to the channel.

  • @deborahbain9915
    @deborahbain9915 Před rokem +1

    So Helpful

  • @adampetersen4795
    @adampetersen4795 Před rokem +1

    Hi Dr Fox. I'm so surprised by the commentators' level of self reflection and desire to actively change their BPD symptoms. Makes me hopeful that there are some BPD people who wants to change. My past experience living with a BPD person was not that positive. Absolute denial sums up everything. As a result, years of psychological trauma led to the point where I had to cut the person off completely and months of continuous therapy to think normally again (myself). God bless those with Bpd who actively want to get better. But my advice for any one trapped in a relationship with a Bpd is to get the hell out before they destroy your life. Mine almost got obliterated trying to be supportive.

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing. I wish you well.

  • @lenniamartin
    @lenniamartin Před rokem

    Hello Dr. Fox I am So happy you did this video I totally understand it and I am now seeking a therapist that can help me . I love all your video that mean so much to me

  • @antoniocarlosburinsammarti915

    oh, l'amour
    The biggest of all distractions
    Good one, Doc!

  • @tritiumeye
    @tritiumeye Před rokem +1

    Amazing and soothing video.

  • @StarWarsNerd777
    @StarWarsNerd777 Před rokem

    you are super cool, thank you Dr.Fox

  • @P1ayerZero
    @P1ayerZero Před rokem +3

    Yup i never stare at people and it feels like nobody ever exists...i cant even remember the last time i looked at a family member or made eye contact

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Omg same. I avoid my family at all costs. I hate looking them In the eye. Especially mom bc she's so unpredictable

  • @matthewishunting
    @matthewishunting Před rokem +3

    Wow
    I had the worst week in the last 5 years. I use Pixel for emotion tracking. This video has helped make sense of it. I feel so terrible for putting my loved one through this. I feel like shes not there. It hurts so bad. I'll try to not let it hurt so much to me. 😥
    She doesn't deserve to feel inadequate because I can't handle reality yet. I'm trying. Thank you for this video. 😢❤

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před rokem +2

      I’m so glad you found the video helpful.

  • @brupkin1177
    @brupkin1177 Před rokem +5

    I always thought my parents divorce hasn't affected me negatively cuz i was too young to remeber. It's weird to realize it still affects me till this day

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      Oh definitely. My parents didn't divorce though I wished they did but the shit that they did in childhood still affects me to this very day hahaha.

  • @alexzajickova605
    @alexzajickova605 Před rokem

    4:00 omg , what you talk about makes all the sense. I remember when my ex told me he will arrive at my place at certain time, and didnt come and wasnt responding just a few minutes and i broke down crying and throwing objects across the room and hitting myself and couldnt control it. You are the best doctor on BPD i ever seen, i feel most psychiatrist dont get it at all and you really do ! i wish i could go on appointment with you but im in Europe. If you read this, have you considered doing paid consultations on-line?

    • @CleverestWitch2188
      @CleverestWitch2188 Před rokem

      It's against the law where he lives. ☹️ Stupid laws of Texas.

  • @Inezkanal
    @Inezkanal Před rokem

    Thank you Dr Fox!!!

  • @lillym.1091
    @lillym.1091 Před rokem +2

    Dear Dr. Fox: Does this concept also apply when the trusted object is close by but busy or not emotionally available? Thank you for another helpful video. Your insight is amazing.

    • @breannadoll9235
      @breannadoll9235 Před 6 měsíci

      I have experienced it this way too. Definitely a thing!

  • @V82956
    @V82956 Před 4 měsíci

    67 years old, and my emotions are just as intense as they were when I was a child I lost my mother before I was the age of two and I cannot remember grieving for her. There were a lot of things that happened after until this day I have not been able to work through this.

  • @DaPoofDaPoofDaPoofDa
    @DaPoofDaPoofDaPoofDa Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this

  • @odikoyote8763
    @odikoyote8763 Před 5 měsíci

    O there he is, 😊
    And he's super cool
    Thank you Dr fox
    I'm getting better with your wonderful videos thank you so much I won't give up

    • @DrDanielFox
      @DrDanielFox  Před 5 měsíci

      I'm so glad to hear that you're finding my videos helpful! Keep up the good work and never give up on your goals!

  • @newtuber4freedom43
    @newtuber4freedom43 Před rokem

    As having some bpd traits, this is not one of them, but very informative and will be more compassionate to someone with this challenge.
    Thumbnail is misleading in my case - does not explain why my heart breaks or why it's overly painful when it does. Tho i do have a bit attachment trauma.
    Very interesting topic.

  • @thereisnosanctuary6184
    @thereisnosanctuary6184 Před rokem +5

    Best thing about my Trusted Objects: I don't trust them. I did. Not one of them delivers.

  • @townbythetown
    @townbythetown Před rokem +8

    Why is it that the hunt is so important for them? I felt like my ex obsessively chased me for months and when I finally told her I was committed to making our relationship work that’s when she flipped into not being sure if she wanted a relationship

    • @lochnessmunster1189
      @lochnessmunster1189 Před 7 měsíci +3

      They want what they can't have.

    • @plaster.art.ho3
      @plaster.art.ho3 Před měsícem

      ​@@lochnessmunster1189partially. And also bc we're scared of commitment, vulnerability, trust and basically we just don't wna let our walls down.

  • @amayawalker1212
    @amayawalker1212 Před rokem +1

    8:30 YOU ARE SUPER COOL DR FOX NEVER FORGET IT

  • @CanadianBear47
    @CanadianBear47 Před rokem

    There he is he is cool. I like him and his help

  • @annajaworska3627
    @annajaworska3627 Před rokem

    So, this is when my food addiction started. The psychologist I was seeing for years advised me to eat celery sticks, to use my will. I kid you not! 🤬. Watching this video, I understood why I kept seeing him, even I felt that something was not right. I blamed myself for not being a good enough patient. Thank you doc for posting this video. I also understood the messiness of my place of living, what I feel daily ashamed of, seeing myself as a lazy woman. I needed to keep things, mostly food, in my sight. Keeping house, home clean is a huge importance in my polish culture, what was impossible for me. Wow!, what a relief

    • @annajaworska3627
      @annajaworska3627 Před rokem

      @A. W. M. Thank you for relating to what I am dealing with. 💜I've started to be and speak up for myself when so called rude, disrespectful people started to show up more in my life. Extremely scared and afraid I am being my own defender. Often with poor choice of words, but I do it. I did some reading online, and what dr. Fox is referring to is a concept of so called object permanence, if you wish to explore more in this matter. All the best to you, always believe in yourself and have trust in yourself. You are here, it is all what matters☮