Building Final Fantasy XVI with Producer Naoki Yoshida | AIAS Game Maker's Notebook Podcast
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- Shuhei Yoshida chats with FINAL FANTASY XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida. Together they discuss his career and what led to him helping relaunch FINAL FANTASY XIV and eventually producing the newest entry in the series; the key decisions they made with FINAL FANTASY XVI with their approach to story and gameplay; how they navigated the pandemic and how it impacted development; and his thoughts on what young game developers looking to break into the industry can do to prepare themselves.
0:00 Introduction
2:27 Interview Start
4:32 Yoshida-san's Early Career and Rebuilding FFXIV
12:09 Starting work on FINAL FANTASY XVI
19:35 Taking the Necessary Time to Develop FFXVI
21:14 Building the Story and World of FFXVI
29:14 Matching Game Design Decisions to Story and Concept
35:34 Eikon Battles and FINAL FANTASY Summons
38:47 Biggest Production Challenges
43:21 Developing for the PlayStation 5
46:53 Pandemic's Impact on Development
56:13 Promotional Strategies for FFXVI
1:01:12 Future of FINAL FANTASY
1:08:28 Yoshida-san's Advice
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吉田Pさん
僕は小さい頃からFFをSFCから始めてやってきました。
ネットには色んな意見が並んでいますが、僕はやっと本当のFFらしさがFF16で戻ってきたなと
感じています。
皆んなに受け入れられるFFなんて作らなくていいです。
僕はFF16 本当に面白かったです。感動しました。
He answers so thoroughly I can feel his respect to the host that he doesn't try to simplify in laymen terms but a more deeper analysis on his vision for FF16 and the process to get there.
I love FF16. Mr. Yoshida and the entire development team, thank you very much for bringing FF16 to the world.
Amazing interview, Thanks!
Love Final Fantasy XVI 💙
Thank you CBU3 team! I had so much fun and can’t wait for Leviathan DLC.
I appreciate interviews that touch on the process of game creation as it give a whole new perspective and appreciation ❤
It’s been awhile since I was so invested emotionally in a game, I love XVI!! 🎉❤
I was absolutely engrossed by FFXVI from the beginning. Everything about this game was so grand and overall it was a spectacle to behold. Thank you very much for the time and dedication put into such an amazing title for us to enjoy!
Thank you for Final Fantasy xvi, I really appreciate it.❤
Thanks to Shu's tweet I discovered these talks. Thanks AIAS for setting this up, you got a new follower.. It's always very interesting to hear this type of discussions about how games are made, the approaches each creator takes, the problems they face or how they tackle different issues, what their goals were, etc. Lovely talk between 2 people I really admire. Thanks Yoshi-P and CBU III for the work done in XVI, it was a great experience. Looking forward for what they cook next.
My favorite game in a long time, it’s truly an excellent work. So excited to listen to this!
FFXVI was an amazing game. It was a nice change of pace for FF. It was nice to have a mature rating FF game other then Agito 13. Its nice to see them move on to the next game and continue more on the game. It had a perfect ending.
Thanks for the intervew!, Whishing the best for the next CBU3 project, I only hope that Square would give them a chance to create a new IP.
excellent interview, loved every minute of it.
Love ya Shu!
Legends ❤
Excellent to see mee Japanese developers talk! I’d like to see Capcom and the like as well.
FFシリーズは新作の都度、ひとつ前のナンバリングのアンチテーゼが込められている様に見受けられますね。
今後も守りに入らず、チャレンジングでイノベーティングな姿勢でもって新しさを提供して下さい。
From all the latest interviews, and all the appearances at Fan Fests, etc. It really feels like Yoshida is looking for a new young creator to boldly step up.
I think he probably already has someone in mind saying this. He obviously can't outright state stuff like this as he is on the board of directors.
Good interview. There's not a lot of new information in here, but some of it - like the approach they took to developing the Eikon fights and how the start of the pandemic was actually a good thing for the project - was really interesting to hear.
おもしろかった！全部みちゃった！
Interesting interview with Yoshida san I see "Special thanks: Shuhei Yoshida" a lot in game credits it's nice to put a face to the name too.
The PS5 shortage was a hard time, but I want you to know that PS4 with games like FFXIV, Monster Hunter World, Death Stranding and Bloodborne kept me entertained during covid times.
I really would love another Final Fantasy from Naoki Yoshida. I just hope he listens to the fans and gives players full control of the party, I would have had so much more fun in ff16 if Jill was a playable character. Controlling the whole party feels like the core of final fantasy to me. Other than that it was amazing and the best writing in any FF game even if gameplay fell short. Thank you Creative Business Unit III for making it happen!
Eh, I dunno if I’d say the game had the best writing in the series. But the dialogue is certainly up there with 12 at least.
@@citizenchris2455 I should clarify I really enjoyed the natural and realistic feel of the English dialogue. I don’t think any other FF game tops it. FF7R is close but it’s still a little awkward at times.
@@citizenchris2455 easily the best writing, and best combat. by MILES
@@wizzenberry There are better written Final Fantasy games
They thought we wanted FFXVI: Lightning Returns!
I love Final Fantasy XVI. I thought it was incredibly well done. It’s honestly one of my new top favorites in the franchise, alongside Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy XIII, and Final Fantasy IX. Final Fantasy XVI is amazing! Thank you, Creative Business Unit 3, for all of your hard work, and for creating such an incredible new entry in the Final Fantasy franchise!
I know that nothing has been officially decided yet, as was said in this video, but I really do think that Creative Business Unit 3 would be the perfect fit for making Final Fantasy XVII as well! With all the experience and everything they’ve learned from developing Final Fantasy XVI, I think it would be extremely beneficial for them to continue building on that experience for the next mainline Final Fantasy as well.
I know Yoshi P says that a younger director might be a good idea, and I certainly trust that Square Enix will make the best decision they can when it comes to the team developing the next Final Fantasy, but I cannot express enough how great it would be to have Creative Business Unit 3 continue with what they’ve experienced and learned, and build upon that for Final Fantasy XVII.
And I think Creative Business Unit 3 is very in touch with the younger generation too! There’s no need to worry on that end. They did an incredible job creating Final Fantasy XVI, and many people (myself included) absolutely loved it! Nothing pleases everyone, but Final Fantasy XVI received a lot of praise from what I’ve seen. Sure, there’s a few people who didn’t like it, but that’s the same for anything. I’ve seen a lot of praise from longtime fans and quite a few people who played this as their very first Final Fantasy absolutely loved it too!
No matter what happens, though, I am thankful to Creative Business Unit 3 for all of their hard work and for creating Final Fantasy XVI. Thank you so much for this amazing experience!
FF16 was my favorite Final Fantasy. It was absolutely amazing!!
15に比べれば16のストーリー、アクションは凄く良かったし、7リメイクもほぼアクションゲームだから、この路線で発展して欲しいかな。
コマンドバトルはもう13まででやり尽くしたから、目新しい物は作れないだろ。
Sony 🤝 Square Enix
I really like the model where they have:
1. Mainline titles.
2. Spinoff titles like Stranger of Paradise, which allowed them to explore other gameplay (souls-like, etc).
3. MMORPG (FF14)
4. FF7 Remake franchise.
Really allows them to fully take advantage of the FF franchise and offer players different gameplay options.
Personally as a character action game fan I felt really spoiled by both FF16 and Stranger of Paradise.
Though I understand if they go back to turn based for FF17.
I thought Stranger of Paradise was an even meatier satisfying game than FF16! So replayable too, the co-op really adds a lot to it, and then the DLC opens things up even more. Just layers upon layers. I wish FF16 took some notes, as it's a game that I feel is designed more for just 1 or 2 playthroughs and not tinkering around with personal builds and experimenting with playstyles so much. Once you find abilities you like in FF16, you're fine just sticking with it the whole game for the most part, so that and the items/loot/gear make 16 feel comparatively shallow to Team Ninja's approach.
I wish more people would talk with the director Hiroshi Takai. Isn't he more responsible for the game's direction than the producer? Big fan of Yoshi P, but FFXIV's redemption arc happened while he was director, not producer, so I figure the director would be pretty important for the media to interview more.
Yoshi-p was both producer and director of 14 during 1.0, and he still is. I do agree with you on the point of interviewing Takai! Directors definitely have (or should have) more impact than producers. I wonder why he doesn't speak up much x)
@@LittleAngryOwl I was thinking he only adopted the mantle of producer on top of director around Shadowbringers or Endwalker as it became needed and he had proven himself with his track record of success with FFXIV overall, and that previously he was comfortably (relatively speaking) avoiding double duty and just serving as director for the game until fairly recently. I'm not sure from where/when I got this impression, but I guess I was wrong, since I see now he is credited as producer for every stage of FFXIV's history. Maybe I was mixing things up with his approach to FFXVI or just him generally being promoted within the company of Square Enix, sort of like how Hideo Kojima was given higher titles in Konami besides director. But yeah, my point is that Naoki Yoshida is a rockstar enough already, and now is time for Hiroshi Takai to make himself more known. And probably the writer Kazutoyo Maehiro as well, since I'd really like to know how he came up with the story.
吉田、綾鷹飲んでるなw
FF16 the Mastepiece of 2023
I agree that every FF is different and need to be a challenge in terms of design, but I don't think it's a great idea to throw mothership entry of FF (which is a complex task to start with anyway) to bunch of newbies. It's so important to many people around the world and we are waiting so many years for the release, that a chance of dissapointment should be eliminated at least with experienced team. Let the new guys try and error in a new IP or some spin-off if they want so much to be a part of the franchise asap.
Don't rush it with decisions, we already waiting (still) for Persona 6 from the team of young devs. It's in development for 8 YEARS, so, like many games that was in a long dev hell, this have a high chance to be a disaster. I'll be shocked if the game actually be really good. We don't even have any concrete info about the game. It's kinda understandle, they need to meet very high expectations layed out by the P4 and P5.
Yeah, I don't have any trust in P6 even if it'll be awesome on the paper after the PR 'll start, we'll see only after it hit the shelves. But on the other hand I'm excicted for the Metaphor: ReFantazio from the old team.
30:05 There are nearly 30 million people that bought Baldur's Gate 3 who are probably more likely to play a turn-based Final Fantasy than a bunch of Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto fans are to play an action Final Fantasy
Imagine new FF with BG3 gimmicks (or are those called TTRPG gimmicks? correct me pls!). It probably wouldn't be as big, because SE loves their games being voice acted in several languages, but still, I think that would be something interesting. Especially if we could also create our own protagonist like WoL in 14.
As for sales: it's not like ALL these 30 mil ppl are fans of turn based games. Many just heard the game was good and jumped on the ship (I was one of them, never a fan of turn-based or DnD and other TTs). And it IS good, but not solely because it's turn based. 16 is still Sony exclusive, and we don't know if it's going to be ported to anything other than pc, so any argument on sales is invalid in this particular case. You can't just blindly measure multiplatform vs single platform sales. If anything, it should be a signal for devs to focus on multiplatform releases instead of exclusives, Sony be damned. And as for CoD and GTO fans... well, those prob would never play anything else, with some exceptions ofc xD
BG3 is big mostly because its DnD and lots of sex, not because of its turn based combat
bg3 is a porno game bruh
I didn't play the whole thing but to me the fighting was not what I was expecting coming from ff15 it felt like it wasn't an upgrade just different if that makes sense
Add RPG Mode
Why haven't they explained the exclusion of player-controlled party members? Is it too much to ask for the ability to switch between them????
やっぱつれぇわ...
Shu Shu Shu! The most loved CEO and GOAT of PlayStation executives! 😍
Both have same surname. imagine calling them Yoshida san in the same room.😅
Yoshi P brought too many MMO sensibilities to XVI. Everyone agrees that party members need to return, and the next FF doesn't need to be copying this dark and gritty tone of GoT. It's a good game but FF needs another director for the next game.
I disagree. Yoshida and his team did a great job on FFXVI and there is nothing that was copied or whatsoever. I mean even GoT is some sort of "copy" if you will, but that's called inspiration. There were many FF's that were kinda "dark" before GoT was even a thing. It's like saying every game that has elves and orcs and stuff is a copy of LOTR :D
Edit: Although I think this game is absolutely awesome I wished there would be more exploration/secrets and more challenging stuff. I also kinda agree with the party members.
Yoshi-P wasn't even the director, he was the producer.
Dark and gritty is superior to the "everybody lives" idiocy.
ff16, the only game ever where the g8y esg char (dion) is so likeable i adored his time on screen. This guy knew how to please wokeness and make a god game. shame nd cant
Why is it that people like you can't just accept that companies want and choose to depict different sorts of characters now? Assuming it's an ESG thing is so shallow. There are gay characters in Game of Thrones, this game's closest story analogue and inspiration, and no one calls that woke, they call it realistically adult and brutally honest for not shying away from homosexuality which has been present throughout history, and it was part of the author's personal vision and tastes for that world. As for Naughty Dog's approach, say what you want, but they don't really have much to do with FF16 here, we're talking about Japanese and American companies with wildly different company cultures/philosophies, and Japan obviously does not care about this American ESG buzzword
@@cosmosofinfinityNah his point is valid, the character is gay but it isnt shoved in peoples faces or done in a weird over the top manner. He spoke like a badass, acted like a badass, just also happened to kiss his boi on the mouth like a badass too. That being said if you think some kinda LGBT propaganda is out to turn you gay, you probably in the closet.
XVI was a piece of shit. Can't believe there is a FF game that turned out worse than XIII and XV, but here we are.
keep coping.
Mad one
@@lostvayne9146 The cope is on Yoshi P, as the game bombed and he will eternally be damned to make more XIV.
Indeed ff16 was a waste of time
@@noobtubephails so He will be working on one of the best final fantasy games and his life work, how terrible
お話からシナリオに拘ったというのは凄く伝わったんですけど、残念ながら自分にはその頑張りがあまり受け取れませんでした
クライヴ達が無策でマザークリスタルを破壊し続け、クリスタルの代替策もとらず(いつか鞴とか広めるつもりでいた、程度の話はありましたが)自分で世界を混沌へ推し進めているのに「悪い事は全部アルテマのせい(アルテマを倒せば全部解決)」って感じで話が進んでいくので割と早い段階でシナリオから心が離れてしまいました。
若い世代がどう感じるかわかりませんが、「人の醜さ」を「神様のせい」にするというのはどうなんでしょうか？
神様を失い、魔法を失った世界はそれこそ現代のような世界になっていくと思いますが、現代でも醜い人間たちは魔法に代わる手段で争ってるじゃないですか。
それは魔法があるより希望がある事なんですか？ 自分にはわかりませんでした。
なんだかんだゲームプレイは楽しみましたし、DLCはシーズンパスも購入済みです
DLC2を遊ぶことで、何かしら本当の意味でクライヴ達の中に、明るい未来を見出せる「希望」が見つかる事を願います。
FF16 is the second worst in the series after 13.... I`m glad someone else will take over for 17!
I love FF16, story, world, characters and music was so good. Played FF since 1998.
@@dreamer6737 But why? it´s like a SP mmorpg in 3rd person like a Hack & slay without a party...
and everything felt mediocore somehow...
I love the franchise since FF6, but 13 and this were just huge disappointments imo :(
17には関わらないで、まじで
That was awesome! I love FF16 so much. It's a beautiful world, great story and has many memorable moments. For the next FF game I'd like to see an art direction like Final Fantasy 8 again, which had a modern world with a FF style!