This is perfect for those of us with mid size and half ton trucks that don't want to push the GVR limits. Even the shell version of the slide in Hawk model with minimal options would only leave me a few hundred pounds of safe cargo capacity on my Tundra. Absolutely love this! Thanks for sharing.
Great video man! Hey if the Four Wheel Camper folks are looking at these comments, please consider making all of your "options" like the heater for example to be able to work with other campers like this and you will have a much larger market. I have the AT Overland Summit camper and would be interested in some of these options for my camper and I know others would be as well.
I'm fascinated by all these camping toys. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Of course I see alot of different products so it's easier for me to get excited lol.
Good work, this is looking really good. No mention when they will be in production, still looking at the first of the year I guess. Don't understand the 13" extension on the rails, will wait & see. No mention of this canopy on their website either, again good work, mixflip scoops more camper news!
Thank you for showing how you can sit up on the bed, I was very curious about that. I really like this thing. On a full size truck this shell will be awesome!!
the bare bones is nice , but starting at ~$9k still kind of expensive for what it is... I mean I don't know what else is out there LIKE THIS but you can almost get an entry level car for about $14k... seems like a lot for a shell and some foam ehh Would of been nice to see some full screen shots from different angles of the outside from 20-25 feet away ...
@@blockeduser5769These guys make a similar camper for about 7k. Not as nice looking as the FWC but definitely a good option if you're looking into this kind of shell. campovrlnd.com/
This is exactly what I have been looking for !! I don't see this on the site other than the $12k base. I absolutely love this one. Works great with my Decked drawers where I store my stove, supplies and tools.
It baffles me why they have not already made a product like this yet. I have been waiting for something like this for a couple years now but at a better price point. To me it needs to fill the gap between the Roof Top Tent world and pop up campers. Should be priced similar to the cost of buying a shell, rack, and Roof Top Tent in my opinion.
It seems like alot. Fwc price for a shell camper was at that 9,000 dollar price tag about 10 years ago, when I first started looking at them. Now, yo get a shell camper, you will pay about 13,000. Full campers are about 25,000 or more.This cap/camper is much less. They are super high quality. I suppose you could buy a good cap for about 2,000(uninsulated) then a good roof top tent for 3,000, and a custom rack for 1,000. Then modify it all...its about the same cost. What did you want it to cost?
Got an ARE for my 2019 GMC Elevation 6'7" bed with a 4-5" rise a few months ago, headliner, fold down front window, dog screens, and a bed rug, for $2500 and I'm ready to roll. Been looking at off-road cargo trailer conversions, and for a few grand more than an FWC M (and I do love the FWC campers) I'll have a 7X12 insulated trailer with torsion axle, battery, LED lights in and out, A/C w/heat strip, battery and charger, 30 amp box and cord, roof rack, 2-15x44 screened windows, and other goodies. I was considering an FWC, but then all the crap I'd need to live full time would be in a trailer anyway, so this seems to be the best solution, for me.
Absorbent looking for something like this. I’m 60 and don’t want the hassle of loading and in loading a camper. I just had a quote of $800 for suspension to do a full camper. This is perfect at a good price point!
The concept is great and would work perfect for my application. You basically get the utility of a camper shell, while being a cab over pop up sleeper with a bed. But the price just seems too high for such a basic package of aluminum sheet metal, styrofoam insulation, canvas material, hinges, and struts. IMO
Look at the price of the competition and the base price of their regular campers. This is about half the price. I think the price will climb after they find they will sell like hotcakes.
@@mixflip This is an aside , but you have a lot of patience with the mentally ill . I know you don't want to be perceived as cowardly by not answering insults but after a bit ,you just have to starve the trolls . I'm not talking about deleting or censoring, just not responding. Thanks for your enthusiasm and content .
@@stanw909 thanks. What they dont realize is that....I'm trolling them and leading them to keep coming back to the videos to leave more comments....essentially driving more traffic to my videos. The algorithm doesnt know a bad comment from a good one. Traffic pushing up rankings and listings.....the more clicks the better for me lol. So when I answer them...I'm basically getting paid. I've had videos climb to 1 million views based on the comment section embroiled in debates/arguments. It's amazing actually. But I dont ignore them too. When I'm tired.
My guess the move to Cali was for economics. More shoppers out here. Buy in Cali and camp in Colo! I had a Hawk on two F-150's over the years. My first F-150 was 2WD then I bought a 4WD. I spent 297 nights in my Hawk camper over the 14 years that I owned it. I had many amazing trips with it. I've toured all over the west coast and made a cross country trip to Oshkosh, WI to see the big EAA air show. This video caught my attention as I'm a Pylon Judge at the Reno Air Races. Other than 911 and Covid, I haven't missed the races since 1970. My truck and Hawk camper are perfect for events like this. I have a great place to cook dinner, sleep plus I get to drive it out into the desert onto the race course and have everything with me. I've used it for the drag races in Bakersfield and speedweek at Bonneville. Last year I decided to upgrade. I sold my Hawk and bought a 31' Class C motorhome. I've discovered that the Class C can't go off road as good as my pick up. I'm seriously thinking of selling the Class C and buying a new Hawk. Four Wheel has a great product and it holds up well over the years.
I really like the idea. With the pop down the back is still usable as a regular shell you can use between trips. It is also light enough to not hit your mileage too bad. With their standard one you either leave it on all the time (2x the weight) and the bed is mostly useless or you have to take it off and on every time and store it. I agree the price is too high. It is important to note a quality camper shell can cost over 2K.
Your 75” and 68” width measurements are outside dimensions. We are taking about needlessly blocking 27” from the inside. A 12v cooler won’t fit in your new number of 8”. I would much rather have the space to work with on my own. If there is no structural reason, I’d like the option of not having the shelf or cabinet or settee,or whatever it may be.
For me, the bench/rails setup is a deal killer since it forces me to only build something that can fit below that, or fit something above. I don’t understand what purpose they intend to serve, unless it is to create a one-width-fits-all box with only the length to be varied. Leave them out, and I’m probably a very interested buyer. May now have to look at the AT Overland Atlas, although the Atlas and Summit both suffer from the same narrow top and slanted sides that inhibit sitting space. The Alu-Cab topper would be a winner for me, except that it doesn’t come in a full-size truck width with 6 1/2’ length, has no clear window option for rainy and windy days, and an odd two-part bed arrangement.
Hey Mixflip did you see Draco the big red prop bush plane at the beginning of this video crashed a few days ago. A guest of wind flipped it during takeoff. Owner/pilot is fine, he crawled out but the plane is wrecked. Now the camper is cool. I'd like one for full size truck and the bare bones one is fine with me. Excellent for a hunting trip and whatever else you can think of. Price is maybe a bit high though. Pricing out a rack for the bed than a rtt is much cheaper. Of course this camper has some advantages so I get the price but otherwise I think it's a winner.
Thanks for the great video. My only wish is if the rear door was attached to the roof (i.e. the whole rear side as a console) and went up together with it thus forming a bigger entrance and even a little more space under lifter upper gate. I am sure the gap in the middle wouldn't be a problem to be covered somehow. At the same time I guess such option would cause critical frame rigidness issues. Anyway there is a plenty of space for further upgrades and developments of the Project M. And also I hope the walls inside may have optional white or at least lighter colors - making the interior looking more spacy and light.
Project M move out the lazy kids Just ordered one. Old guys are gonna love these. You can still move your millennials out of the house with it on and leave it on year round. Bonus I can hide my mtn bike in it awesome!
I agree. Most fiberglass truck bed toppers are several thousand dollars already. Might as well go a few more and get this if you need a cabin on wheels.
Would be a relatively straight forward mod.. could use a MR buddy catalytic heat plumbed to a tank mounted outside. Or the tiny rv wood stoves that scout uses.. I forget the name. Olympia maybe? Both can operate with zero electricity.
@@mixflipextra I've seen camper shells that replace the tailgate with a full wall rear flip-up, with a door in the middle. It would add weight and complexity, but worth it for some.
I think that this is a great prototype, but too expensive. This unit, with something like an ArkPak battery box, and you're set. We could run our ARB fridge, my wife's 12v electric blanket, our 250w mini-space heater, and set up a couple Coleman camp chairs in the box when it's raining. Campers are very hard to find for midsize trucks and 1/2 tonnes nowadays, and despite people out there upgrading their trucks with suspensions, and airbags etc., these things only increase ride quality, they do not increase your 'LEGAL:' payload or GVW. Those are set at factory, and no matter what you say to the authorities driving through BC on your way to Alaska, no amount of upgrades changes your payload, they go by the number in your truck, and if you're over, the camper comes out. Remember too, that payload and GVW have to include your passenger weights.
Geography in Action This is a very good point, I have a 2nd gen Tacoma and would love the full slide in FWC, but there’s no way I’ll be under the GVW. Not with a full tank of gas, wife, kid, dog, mountain bikes and some basic gear. Not to mention if you get in an accident, and insurance finds out you were over weight, you might get screwed. Glad this model came out, at under 500lbs it’s much more realistic. However the price does seem high, there’s lots of other lightweight options out there now for midsize trucks.
@@glinrothe1 I'm glad it helped. Tacomas are great trucks, I just had mine written-off. There is no way that my Toyota would have carried 2/3 's of the campers that are sold as Tacoma capable. When I was looking for one, the guy at the RV place kept telling me that I could carry 1500 lbs which is way too much, the camper was 1700. I asked him about fuel, my wife, me, our gear, he just smiled and said those don't count. We were looking at a basic shell, 700 lbs, and that concerned me. Guy was trying to make a sale, simple. With your family and your gear, it's very tight. Long box Tacoma at best is around 1300 lbs, take your family and fuel weight off, you haven't much left. The FWC 'M' works, but expensive. I would look at a small trailer, or a roof-top tent system. Cheers!
If I'm going off road I would not want something that raises the CG, a soft top and tarp tent off end of bed is hundreds of pounds lighter, not to mention the cost. It is nice for camp ground camping.
Early in the video you mentioned that the rails will be built out even with the wheels. The way I'm going to build mine out I'd rather not have that. Is it possible to get it without the rails extended into the bed. The whole purpose in the project M for me is to save space in my full size short bed. The slide in takes up a lot of space and I am afraid that your plan to build out the rails even with the wheels defeats my objective to save space.
It’s too bad that those rails will be needlessly built out 13.5”. This 27” loss of space is the precise reason to not want a slide in camper when you have a standard bed on a full size silverado. What is the purpose of that 13.5” rails protruding off the top rail into the space? Is there a structural reason?
It will prob be more like 8 inches being this camper is 75 inches wide and your truck width is 68 inches or so wide. My guess is why they are making it like this is for storage, like a 12V cooler and small bins and most trucks have different width and lengths.
I like it, I'm looking for something exactly like that for my 1/2 ton gmc. The only problem I see is that i don't want to take off my canoe or kayak just to put up the top, to easy for someone to walk away with it while I'm sleeping, 1 question I have is how do you close it up while inside? Looks difficult to do
I had a FWC on a 2002 Ram Diesel- Loved it, except I also love kayaking- EVERY time I set up camp, I had to unload the kayaks... it was a PITA. Also, for what it was (is) it is WAY Over priced...it's ridiculous. Ended up with an off road tent trailer- In my opinion a much better camping option- You can set it up and leave in your truck, lightweight and you can put bikes, kayaks and toys on a rack on your truck/vehicle....
It’s a great idea but I believe it is a bit overpriced. I would love this setup and also pull a teardrop because I have a family of 4. The teardrop just doesn’t have enough storage for me and my family. This would be perfect if it weren’t for the price tag.
Non price friendly...9000 bucks for an aluminum shell that pops up that you have to crawl into...Basic at best, for a pretty hefty price tag..and that was just the Toyota version.
An aluminum load bearing canopy is gonna cost you 4,000-5000 with another 3-5,000 for an rtt. This is expensive, but no more expensive than the rest of the market.
@@ElBrisho I also had the smittybilt, and while it was definitely a better choice for a lot less, that is only when you consider the specific type of tent. Any hard shell rtt is going to be much more expensive, in the thousands of dollars. There are a couple of cheaper hard shells, but having been able to compare them in person, they tend to be really cheaply made, and wouldn't expect them to last more than 3 seasons.
People who bitch about the price of stuff like this need to think it through. Is there $9000 worth of materials here? Of course not, but have any of you ever run a business? Costs are coming at you from all sides. If they’d stayed the hell in Colorado in ‘88 rather than moving to Cali, these might be a bit less expensive, but I don’t want to get political (although I just did; or did I get factual?). Anyway, the value in these all comes down to how much you’ll use it. If you’re just thinking “cool, that would be fun” but end up hitting the trails a couple times a year, it’s not for you. I really want a boat, specifically an express cruiser the wife and I could weekend on, but right now we’d be lucky to spend a half dozen weekends a year on it. I can’t justify $100K for that usage. Things may change. I would highly recommend anyone considering anything like this to do a rental first.
I am comparing this to the GFC. The GFC has the opening sides, but I like the way the whole roof pops up on this creating a more airy feel and more usable headrooom. The GFC is around $7500 so this is comparable for the added features of windows, the top, etc. I would put a batwing awning on it and maybe add the rear floodlights and electrical prewire, that's about it.
Mixflip Extra Yes, and they are useless in cold, humid conditions. Admit it, you industry shill. Admit that these FWC campers are inappropriate outside of dry, warm/hot climates. You are so transparently unethical it’s astonishing. Have you ever been in a FWC outside in damp, wet, cold, humidity? People should know the limitations of these FWC campers. Putting a bullshit photo of an FWC with snowfall is meaningless.
@@PS987654321PS I've camped in snow, rain and mud in a nylon tent....yes it sucks....FWC is better than what I had. Oh and fyi....if you are triggered by a little condensation....maybe you should just stay in a motel 30 miles from the trails where campers stay. It's cold and dirty in the outdoors. Stop being a snowflake and grow some balls. Its condensation....shit happens when you put a 98 degree human inside of any box when it's cold outside.
Yes, great concept, but way overpriced. On my truck, i have a 8' box so it would be even more. 100 lb. capacity in the roof...really? That's not really a lot either. No thanks, i'll spend my money more wisely than that.
These campers suck hard in cold and wet conditions. 2 season campers only where I’m from. I wish this mixflip industry shill would tell people the limitations of the FWC so people can make informed decisions. Instead we get his propaganda.
I have a better idea....why dont you make your own video packed with all the facts and user complaints and share it with the world on youtube. As a matter of fact you can copy and paste your link on my videos! Piggy back on my channel to get your word out. Use me to spread your info. Oh....and make sure you cut me a shill check for helping you share info.
mixflip Nah, but you need to be exposed as the industry shill that you are. Honest, working class people spend their hard earned money on truck campers and you could care less if you steer them the wrong way with your videos. You do everyone a disservice with your videos except those dishonest and greedy business people.
@@PS987654321PS I dont make hard working people do anything. You're a special kind of dunce if you think someone is going to walk into four wheel campers shop and say....duh I watched a video on CZcams....duh take my money. You dont give hard working people credit. You assume hard working people cant think for themselves. They watch my video and take what they want from it. What do I care if FWC sells zero or 1000 campers...I dont get a penny from them. Well....I did get a hat and a t shirt but that isnt going to help with my mortgage lol. You're a wierd dude....keep clicking on my videos to leave comments. Every click counts....even the haters.
socalexpeditions Yes I do. I need honest, ethical people to hold a line on integrity. Are you on the side of the consumer or on the side of rich businessmen who are happy to swindle others with overpriced crap?
You should definitely do a build series on this. I am super interested in this camper!
This is perfect for those of us with mid size and half ton trucks that don't want to push the GVR limits. Even the shell version of the slide in Hawk model with minimal options would only leave me a few hundred pounds of safe cargo capacity on my Tundra. Absolutely love this! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for showing this camper in detail. The more I look the more I like.
This is an awesome weekend camper for the beach. So light. This is what I’ve
been waiting for. 🤜🤜🤜🇱🇷
so glad that Four Wheel Campers are innovating. Looks great! I am definitely interested!
Great video man! Hey if the Four Wheel Camper folks are looking at these comments, please consider making all of your "options" like the heater for example to be able to work with other campers like this and you will have a much larger market. I have the AT Overland Summit camper and would be interested in some of these options for my camper and I know others would be as well.
It always amazes me how you're more interested in showing us the product then they are.
I'm fascinated by all these camping toys. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Of course I see alot of different products so it's easier for me to get excited lol.
mixflip you are an unethical liar.
@@PS987654321PS your mom
@@PS987654321PS I have a real job. I do CZcams as a fun hobby. What's your real job? Just curious? I'm sure it beats mine.
@@PS987654321PS lol....you are such a snowflake kiddo. I totally trigger you dont I.
Good work, this is looking really good. No mention when they will be in production, still looking at the first of the year I guess. Don't understand the 13" extension on the rails, will wait & see. No mention of this canopy on their website either, again good work, mixflip scoops more camper news!
If I were to order one I would prefer the short, if not non existent rails inside. I need more cargo space.
Thank you for showing how you can sit up on the bed, I was very curious about that. I really like this thing. On a full size truck this shell will be awesome!!
the bare bones is nice , but starting at ~$9k still kind of expensive for what it is... I mean I don't know what else is out there LIKE THIS but you can almost get an entry level car for about $14k... seems like a lot for a shell and some foam ehh Would of been nice to see some full screen shots from different angles of the outside from 20-25 feet away ...
AT Overland Habitat $8900 and let's you have your truck bed when not camping. This is a good idea by 4WheelCampers.
It is a good idea , keepin it simple barebones and light...
@@blockeduser5769These guys make a similar camper for about 7k. Not as nice looking as the FWC but definitely a good option if you're looking into this kind of shell. campovrlnd.com/
This is exactly what I have been looking for !! I don't see this on the site other than the $12k base. I absolutely love this one. Works great with my Decked drawers where I store my stove, supplies and tools.
Look at "Project M" on their website. I'm just waiting for them to be available for my Jeep Gladiator!
Great video Mixflip. I giving this camper a strong consideration.
Go to ARE or Leer and get a commercial cap for a couple grand, No pop up but way cheaper.
It baffles me why they have not already made a product like this yet. I have been waiting for something like this for a couple years now but at a better price point. To me it needs to fill the gap between the Roof Top Tent world and pop up campers. Should be priced similar to the cost of buying a shell, rack, and Roof Top Tent in my opinion.
It seems like alot. Fwc price for a shell camper was at that 9,000 dollar price tag about 10 years ago, when I first started looking at them. Now, yo get a shell camper, you will pay about 13,000. Full campers are about 25,000 or more.This cap/camper is much less. They are super high quality. I suppose you could buy a good cap for about 2,000(uninsulated) then a good roof top tent for 3,000, and a custom rack for 1,000. Then modify it all...its about the same cost. What did you want it to cost?
Got an ARE for my 2019 GMC Elevation 6'7" bed with a 4-5" rise a few months ago, headliner, fold down front window, dog screens, and a bed rug, for $2500 and I'm ready to roll. Been looking at off-road cargo trailer conversions, and for a few grand more than an FWC M (and I do love the FWC campers) I'll have a 7X12 insulated trailer with torsion axle, battery, LED lights in and out, A/C w/heat strip, battery and charger, 30 amp box and cord, roof rack, 2-15x44 screened windows, and other goodies. I was considering an FWC, but then all the crap I'd need to live full time would be in a trailer anyway, so this seems to be the best solution, for me.
Absorbent looking for something like this. I’m 60 and don’t want the hassle of loading and in loading a camper. I just had a quote of $800 for suspension to do a full camper. This is perfect at a good price point!
The concept is great and would work perfect for my application. You basically get the utility of a camper shell, while being a cab over pop up sleeper with a bed. But the price just seems too high for such a basic package of aluminum sheet metal, styrofoam insulation, canvas material, hinges, and struts. IMO
Look at the price of the competition and the base price of their regular campers. This is about half the price. I think the price will climb after they find they will sell like hotcakes.
Maybe the price will drop once they sell in higher volumes.
@@mixflip This is an aside , but you have a lot of patience with the mentally ill . I know you don't want to be perceived as cowardly by not answering insults but after a bit ,you just have to starve the trolls . I'm not talking about deleting or censoring, just not responding. Thanks for your enthusiasm and content .
I should also tell you I'm now subbed .
@@stanw909 thanks. What they dont realize is that....I'm trolling them and leading them to keep coming back to the videos to leave more comments....essentially driving more traffic to my videos. The algorithm doesnt know a bad comment from a good one. Traffic pushing up rankings and listings.....the more clicks the better for me lol. So when I answer them...I'm basically getting paid. I've had videos climb to 1 million views based on the comment section embroiled in debates/arguments. It's amazing actually.
But I dont ignore them too. When I'm tired.
Thanks for this review. I need this for my Ram Power Wagon since it only has a 1500lb payload capacity. Hunting/Overlanding
One of the great things about living in Reno... The air races!!! Cool product, but a bit pricey....
My guess the move to Cali was for economics. More shoppers out here. Buy in Cali and camp in Colo! I had a Hawk on two F-150's over the years. My first F-150 was 2WD then I bought a 4WD. I spent 297 nights in my Hawk camper over the 14 years that I owned it. I had many amazing trips with it. I've toured all over the west coast and made a cross country trip to Oshkosh, WI to see the big EAA air show. This video caught my attention as I'm a Pylon Judge at the Reno Air Races. Other than 911 and Covid, I haven't missed the races since 1970. My truck and Hawk camper are perfect for events like this. I have a great place to cook dinner, sleep plus I get to drive it out into the desert onto the race course and have everything with me. I've used it for the drag races in Bakersfield and speedweek at Bonneville. Last year I decided to upgrade. I sold my Hawk and bought a 31' Class C motorhome. I've discovered that the Class C can't go off road as good as my pick up. I'm seriously thinking of selling the Class C and buying a new Hawk. Four Wheel has a great product and it holds up well over the years.
Love the product and philosophy, but maybe a little pricey for what it is.
The bunk option with removable panels for kids below sounds like a cool idea.
Excellent product... will check out... thanks.. tired of my leaky tent because I
Pull a boat trailer so this gets me out of the NW rain👍😊
just ordered one for my Tundra first one in canada
Did you get it yet?
As the gentlemen said, "It's perfect!!"
I really like the idea. With the pop down the back is still usable as a regular shell you can use between trips. It is also light enough to not hit your mileage too bad. With their standard one you either leave it on all the time (2x the weight) and the bed is mostly useless or you have to take it off and on every time and store it. I agree the price is too high. It is important to note a quality camper shell can cost over 2K.
Just got a 1985 magnum popup Tc this thing is awesome took it on its madin voyage last weekend it was great love these things/happy trails
Nice but way too expensive for what it is. Needs to be at 4-5k max.
Your 75” and 68” width measurements are outside dimensions. We are taking about needlessly blocking 27” from the inside. A 12v cooler won’t fit in your new number of 8”. I would much rather have the space to work with on my own. If there is no structural reason, I’d like the option of not having the shelf or cabinet or settee,or whatever it may be.
Just got an email advertising this! Missed your great video somehow? Wonderful work as always ❣️
Thanks for watching
When do these go into full production for the full-size trucks? I need one of these.
For me, the bench/rails setup is a deal killer since it forces me to only build something that can fit below that, or fit something above. I don’t understand what purpose they intend to serve, unless it is to create a one-width-fits-all box with only the length to be varied. Leave them out, and I’m probably a very interested buyer. May now have to look at the AT Overland Atlas, although the Atlas and Summit both suffer from the same narrow top and slanted sides that inhibit sitting space.
The Alu-Cab topper would be a winner for me, except that it doesn’t come in a full-size truck width with 6 1/2’ length, has no clear window option for rainy and windy days, and an odd two-part bed arrangement.
Looks wonderful, very useful!
Hey Mixflip did you see Draco the big red prop bush plane at the beginning of this video crashed a few days ago. A guest of wind flipped it during takeoff. Owner/pilot is fine, he crawled out but the plane is wrecked. Now the camper is cool. I'd like one for full size truck and the bare bones one is fine with me. Excellent for a hunting trip and whatever else you can think of. Price is maybe a bit high though. Pricing out a rack for the bed than a rtt is much cheaper. Of course this camper has some advantages so I get the price but otherwise I think it's a winner.
I didntnsee it crash myself but it was all over the news. Sad too because that was a bass looking work of art.
Thanks for the great video. My only wish is if the rear door was attached to the roof (i.e. the whole rear side as a console) and went up together with it thus forming a bigger entrance and even a little more space under lifter upper gate. I am sure the gap in the middle wouldn't be a problem to be covered somehow. At the same time I guess such option would cause critical frame rigidness issues. Anyway there is a plenty of space for further upgrades and developments of the Project M. And also I hope the walls inside may have optional white or at least lighter colors - making the interior looking more spacy and light.
Project M move out the lazy kids Just ordered one. Old guys are gonna love these. You can still move your millennials out of the house with it on and leave it on year round. Bonus I can hide my mtn bike in it awesome!
That was a nice review. Thanks.
Thanks for watching
Definitely consider...Over a 'regular' pick up truck Cab!!!!.......no suspension 'upgrade' necessary too! Add On' Stuff' later.....
I agree. Most fiberglass truck bed toppers are several thousand dollars already. Might as well go a few more and get this if you need a cabin on wheels.
Thanks for info .
I should have mentioned that the Draco crash was videotaped and in on YT. He was trying to leave the Reno Air Race before bad weather came in.
get mine this week.
Love it almost what I was looking for. When they figure out how to put a heater in it. I will be the 1st in line.
I’ve been thinking about this too and a propane, wall mount marine heater/fireplace vented out the side would work perfectly.
Would be a relatively straight forward mod.. could use a MR buddy catalytic heat plumbed to a tank mounted outside. Or the tiny rv wood stoves that scout uses.. I forget the name. Olympia maybe? Both can operate with zero electricity.
Sweet! thanks for the video
Awesome Brother!
I hope they will still have their shell models.
Great video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching
these would be amazing if there was a proper camper door at the back.
I believe they chose this option so users can load alot more gear inside like a traditional truck cap. But this truck cap has a queen size bed.
@@mixflipextra I've seen camper shells that replace the tailgate with a full wall rear flip-up, with a door in the middle. It would add weight and complexity, but worth it for some.
Awesome! What is the side to side dimensions of that bed?
I think that this is a great prototype, but too expensive. This unit, with something like an ArkPak battery box, and you're set. We could run our ARB fridge, my wife's 12v electric blanket, our 250w mini-space heater, and set up a couple Coleman camp chairs in the box when it's raining. Campers are very hard to find for midsize trucks and 1/2 tonnes nowadays, and despite people out there upgrading their trucks with suspensions, and airbags etc., these things only increase ride quality, they do not increase your 'LEGAL:' payload or GVW. Those are set at factory, and no matter what you say to the authorities driving through BC on your way to Alaska, no amount of upgrades changes your payload, they go by the number in your truck, and if you're over, the camper comes out. Remember too, that payload and GVW have to include your passenger weights.
Geography in Action This is a very good point, I have a 2nd gen Tacoma and would love the full slide in FWC, but there’s no way I’ll be under the GVW. Not with a full tank of gas, wife, kid, dog, mountain bikes and some basic gear. Not to mention if you get in an accident, and insurance finds out you were over weight, you might get screwed. Glad this model came out, at under 500lbs it’s much more realistic. However the price does seem high, there’s lots of other lightweight options out there now for midsize trucks.
@@glinrothe1 I'm glad it helped. Tacomas are great trucks, I just had mine written-off. There is no way that my Toyota would have carried 2/3 's of the campers that are sold as Tacoma capable. When I was looking for one, the guy at the RV place kept telling me that I could carry 1500 lbs which is way too much, the camper was 1700. I asked him about fuel, my wife, me, our gear, he just smiled and said those don't count. We were looking at a basic shell, 700 lbs, and that concerned me. Guy was trying to make a sale, simple. With your family and your gear, it's very tight. Long box Tacoma at best is around 1300 lbs, take your family and fuel weight off, you haven't much left. The FWC 'M' works, but expensive. I would look at a small trailer, or a roof-top tent system. Cheers!
Need them to have a black Friday sale with 40% off :)
For full size trucks could you drive an atv in one of these or at least store an atv?
Will Four Wheel Camper have one for the new Jeep Gladiator ?
I would assume so
0:33 this plane crashed several days ago. Pilot is well but Draco is a goner.
Yup its beyond repair. Well maybe they can use the badass landing gear it had.
If I'm going off road I would not want something that raises the CG, a soft top and tarp tent off end of bed is hundreds of pounds lighter, not to mention the cost. It is nice for camp ground camping.
I agree. Light weight is better for off road.
Early in the video you mentioned that the rails will be built out even with the wheels. The way I'm going to build mine out I'd rather not have that. Is it possible to get it without the rails extended into the bed.
The whole purpose in the project M for me is to save space in my full size short bed.
The slide in takes up a lot of space and I am afraid that your plan to build out the rails even with the wheels defeats my objective to save space.
I believe they will all be 13.5 inches wide.
It’s too bad that those rails will be needlessly built out 13.5”. This 27” loss of space is the precise reason to not want a slide in camper when you have a standard bed on a full size silverado.
What is the purpose of that 13.5” rails protruding off the top rail into the space? Is there a structural reason?
It will prob be more like 8 inches being this camper is 75 inches wide and your truck width is 68 inches or so wide. My guess is why they are making it like this is for storage, like a 12V cooler and small bins and most trucks have different width and lengths.
I like it, I'm looking for something exactly like that for my 1/2 ton gmc. The only problem I see is that i don't want to take off my canoe or kayak just to put up the top, to easy for someone to walk away with it while I'm sleeping, 1 question I have is how do you close it up while inside? Looks difficult to do
Perfect that it sits on the bed rails and only 400 sum pounds! Now I need 9 grand!! Ugh it's sucks being poor🥺
I had a FWC on a 2002 Ram Diesel- Loved it, except I also love kayaking- EVERY time I set up camp, I had to unload the kayaks... it was a PITA. Also, for what it was (is) it is WAY Over priced...it's ridiculous. Ended up with an off road tent trailer- In my opinion a much better camping option- You can set it up and leave in your truck, lightweight and you can put bikes, kayaks and toys on a rack on your truck/vehicle....
Good point if you are trying to haul kayaks.
This camper is not available yet on their website, i've seen multiple video's but the company hasnt updated their site yet.
Hey Daniel it is on the website now, just noticed it.
Great concept but $4k over price.
Great vid btw
This works for me. Thanks
Thanks for watching
Dang maybe if it was $6k
i was thinking more like $4500
@@marklaurenz2131 Please show me something similar for $4500..
No rear door? How do you close this at night?
Are there mounting brackets for awnings?
Could you sleep east west maxfkip?
Can you get a decked system below the shelf?
Yes
When open, what would be the interior height between the decked and camper roof?
Where are your other dealers at?
How much was this very nice
jerry cans for that v6 gas guzzler
Is the bed 5.5 in this prototype?
Can anybody tell me how this topper affects MPGs with the added weight and aero drag?
It will go down
did you score one of those Campers mixflip ? They are sweet Campers
Sadly no. I need a truck 1st.
Wonder if it’s dustproof...
Seal around the tailgate...
Why would you move from Colorado to California? That is unacceptable
What happens when mosquitoes come in?
I have the same camper shell project m on my d21 and added a Magnetic Screen Door from Amazon works great 👍
This would be great for me too! Except for the price
Would full size camper door fit ATV?
I bet it does.
It’s a great idea but I believe it is a bit overpriced. I would love this setup and also pull a teardrop because I have a family of 4. The teardrop just doesn’t have enough storage for me and my family. This would be perfect if it weren’t for the price tag.
Can the bed and bedding be left in place at the queen size function and still raise and lower the pop top?
Yes
You kidding with that price
Non price friendly...9000 bucks for an aluminum shell that pops up that you have to crawl into...Basic at best, for a pretty hefty price tag..and that was just the Toyota version.
An aluminum load bearing canopy is gonna cost you 4,000-5000 with another 3-5,000 for an rtt. This is expensive, but no more expensive than the rest of the market.
Matt Burkett bs 3k for a new canopy and about 1500-2500 for a rtt
What are you looking at for that much?
@@mattburkett9419 my smittybilt xl rtt was $900 lol to pay $3-5k on a rooftop tent is insane. You can get a new load bearing topper for $3-4k
@@ElBrisho I also had the smittybilt, and while it was definitely a better choice for a lot less, that is only when you consider the specific type of tent.
Any hard shell rtt is going to be much more expensive, in the thousands of dollars. There are a couple of cheaper hard shells, but having been able to compare them in person, they tend to be really cheaply made, and wouldn't expect them to last more than 3 seasons.
Who else live in reno 775
Gladiator??? 🤗
They said they will build these for small trucks 1st.
People who bitch about the price of stuff like this need to think it through. Is there $9000 worth of materials here? Of course not, but have any of you ever run a business? Costs are coming at you from all sides. If they’d stayed the hell in Colorado in ‘88 rather than moving to Cali, these might be a bit less expensive, but I don’t want to get political (although I just did; or did I get factual?). Anyway, the value in these all comes down to how much you’ll use it. If you’re just thinking “cool, that would be fun” but end up hitting the trails a couple times a year, it’s not for you. I really want a boat, specifically an express cruiser the wife and I could weekend on, but right now we’d be lucky to spend a half dozen weekends a year on it. I can’t justify $100K for that usage. Things may change. I would highly recommend anyone considering anything like this to do a rental first.
I am comparing this to the GFC. The GFC has the opening sides, but I like the way the whole roof pops up on this creating a more airy feel and more usable headrooom. The GFC is around $7500 so this is comparable for the added features of windows, the top, etc. I would put a batwing awning on it and maybe add the rear floodlights and electrical prewire, that's about it.
Do they have a wet bath option?
Actually they do in some models.
You’ll be taking a continual bath in all the condensation.
@@PS987654321PS therebare these things called vents. They work wonders.
Mixflip Extra Yes, and they are useless in cold, humid conditions. Admit it, you industry shill. Admit that these FWC campers are inappropriate outside of dry, warm/hot climates. You are so transparently unethical it’s astonishing.
Have you ever been in a FWC outside in damp, wet, cold, humidity? People should know the limitations of these FWC campers. Putting a bullshit photo of an FWC with snowfall is meaningless.
@@PS987654321PS I've camped in snow, rain and mud in a nylon tent....yes it sucks....FWC is better than what I had.
Oh and fyi....if you are triggered by a little condensation....maybe you should just stay in a motel 30 miles from the trails where campers stay. It's cold and dirty in the outdoors. Stop being a snowflake and grow some balls. Its condensation....shit happens when you put a 98 degree human inside of any box when it's cold outside.
I would buy this tomorrow if it was $5,500.00.
And they’d be working for free.
Yes, great concept, but way overpriced. On my truck, i have a 8' box so it would be even more. 100 lb. capacity in the roof...really? That's not really a lot either. No thanks, i'll spend my money more wisely than that.
Check out Vagabond campers. Maybe their camper is a better fit for what you plan to do.
Sorry they didn't design this specifically for you.. Im sure they will try harder next time.
It is a bit expensive, but the rooftop weight is fine, it would carry my Clipper canoe, and my PVC long item storage tube. What did you want up there?
Sorry bud, but thats not how easy it is to set up because you have to put on sheets and blankets that have to be taken out of a storage box somewhere
My sleeping bag lays there all the time
I sleep fully clothed. No blankets. I call it caveman style.
So far, I've wasted over 30 seconds on stupid airplanes and "music." I came to see about popup truck camper. Sayonara...
Bye Felicia
Wow, 30 whole seconds. You must be important!
@@mixflip Laughing hard at that one! Enjoyed the video, thanks !
These campers suck hard in cold and wet conditions. 2 season campers only where I’m from. I wish this mixflip industry shill would tell people the limitations of the FWC so people can make informed decisions. Instead we get his propaganda.
I have a better idea....why dont you make your own video packed with all the facts and user complaints and share it with the world on youtube. As a matter of fact you can copy and paste your link on my videos! Piggy back on my channel to get your word out. Use me to spread your info.
Oh....and make sure you cut me a shill check for helping you share info.
mixflip Nah, but you need to be exposed as the industry shill that you are. Honest, working class people spend their hard earned money on truck campers and you could care less if you steer them the wrong way with your videos. You do everyone a disservice with your videos except those dishonest and greedy business people.
@@PS987654321PS I dont make hard working people do anything. You're a special kind of dunce if you think someone is going to walk into four wheel campers shop and say....duh I watched a video on CZcams....duh take my money.
You dont give hard working people credit. You assume hard working people cant think for themselves.
They watch my video and take what they want from it. What do I care if FWC sells zero or 1000 campers...I dont get a penny from them. Well....I did get a hat and a t shirt but that isnt going to help with my mortgage lol.
You're a wierd dude....keep clicking on my videos to leave comments. Every click counts....even the haters.
@@PS987654321PS you need help man
socalexpeditions Yes I do. I need honest, ethical people to hold a line on integrity. Are you on the side of the consumer or on the side of rich businessmen who are happy to swindle others with overpriced crap?