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I think light-up functionality would be really cool to see. I also think there could be a point of interest in making your own blade, potentially with thicker spring steel.
They are so hard to work with, but making my own could be cool
I really would like to see something like this, have a hard time believing you can do much fencing before that spring collaspes
@@JoelCreates another thing that I think would be great in v3 is after you use aluminum and a blue saber you should add your own custom metal hilt
@@JoelCreates I think a good way to execute this would be to use a semi-clear coiled plastic structure attached to the metal spring coil at the hilt and the tip, making the metal coil act as a backbone. Then springy led strips in between the metal and the plastic, like mini fairy lights but spring-coiled. Just spitballing ideas.
i think he could just cover the sections with glow-in0the-dark paint
seems like the easiest option
This actually fits the lore of post-order-66 star wars extremely well, too. Any surviving jedi would've wanted to keep their lightsaber sort of hidden if they didn't get rid of it entirely. Having one inside a cardboard tube might arouse a few quizzical glances, but it would dissuade the suspicion of being a jedi.
Ah of course
"I am no jedi, i am just a collector of ancient artifacts. This is what is known as a "toilet paper roll".
"What do you mean there are others like me? Really? We should start a galactic club"
Let me just get some more paper...
BVROOOM!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
*Waves hand-"This is not the wrapping paper you are looking for."
Obi-Wan shovel
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Your british documentary narrator voice made my day
HOLY SHIT, THE "SO BAD IT'S GOOD" IDEA MAN HIMSELF!
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Try using Delrin as the plastic instead of acrylic. Very durable stuff, can be laser cut, and McMaster sells it in 1/8th inch which should be perfect for your needs
Thanks for the suggestion! I used this acrylic because I love how it looks, but for my next design I would cnc some aluminum which I would probably polish to a mirror shine
Holy cow. Dude remember watching your video after school all the time. Also Joel. Amazing lightsaber design. I know my younger siblings would destroy me with it
This is fantastic!! I love how you're going back to the "roots" of the cardboard lightsabers we all played with. Your end product here looks and functions like we all imagined they did but for real! Well done! I kind of want one now!
I still do it lol
When cardboard ensuthiests go full Jedi mode!!! May the cardboard entire you!!
It would be very difficult to make something that can light up and still have that structural integrity of the spring steel.
One option would be glow in the dark paint on the spring, but that would only have the light effect in the dark. And it would need to be charged before use.
Idk if this would work, but you could theoretically drill a lot of holes into the spring steel to make it a lattice and shine a really bright light down the interior. Then, if possible, you could find a way to feed a diffuser over the tube and have it extend with the tube. Maybe it'll create a solid lighting effect?
Hadn't thought of exactly that, but you might be on to something...
the glow in the dark paint could work pretty well with a blacklight, then the issue is "simply" managing to illuminate the blade with the blacklight somehow, perhaps with something like the lattice you mentioned.
I wonder if you could have a roll of spring steel that has lights in the middle of two sheets. Then just get a polymer coating to disperse the light. Maybe you could do something along those lines for a ridgid, light up saber.
Actually I think you could just replace the cardboard looking tape with EL tape. You might have to put a clear tape over it to make sure it was low friction and didn't wear but ultimately the whole surface of the blade would light up just as you'd want it to.
transparent aluminum.
This is really good. For future designs, I really liked the bare-bones hilt with exposed mechanics, like Starkiller's lightsaber in the force unleashed.
According to the Disney patent's they used a similar coiled design on their saber, but with diffusing plastic. I saw a video of its use in the themed hotel - they only show the ignition and clearly change lightsabers before dueling as the extending saber is not strong enough for dueling. The spring steel is going to be your best bet, and I saw another comment here with perforated and diffused spring steel. I'd really like to see that option attempted for strength and appearance.
Most toy lightsabers use a projected light from the hilt, which although diffused, is still brighter at the bottom and weaker on top. I wonder if an LED strip attached to the steel and extended with it is an option?
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This should be a commercial for "performance pills" lol
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a light up version would be so so cool but honestly the cardboard version does have a real charm to it
this was super cool Joel! nice work!
Glad you liked it!
ok but the choreography of those fighting clips was god tier, definitely better than the disney trilogy
Heck YEAH Joel! Awesome video! Now it's time for you to make a retracting Energy Sword :)
YOOOO IMPACT, love you. :)
I feel like you could make it retractible too. You could have it deploy with a string connected to the inside of the tip of the spring steel that can get retracted with a fast spinning motor on a spool, or you could deploy an elastic string that could get wound up right after deployment, ready to be retracted quickly at a moment's notice.
That would work with a telescopic rod but unfortunately this is not how the metal staffs work. I have one and the way you have to make it retract is by twisting the bottom at the same time as pressing it on a flat surface. So I line connected to the top wouldn’t make it retract it would just pull the staff into a tighter formation.
@@eggric6678 thanks for the info! Appreciate it!
I definitely would love to see a light-up more accurate version of this! You did a great job and I personally think it would be cool to see an actual extending lightsaber that is easy to carry!
I’m 50 years old and made the hair on my neck stand up. It was my childhood dream to have a cardboard light saber. That was 1979. Seeing it now brought back so many memories.
It's crazy that you would come out with this video the same time im trying to design and 3d print a custom lightsaber hilt. I'm not a massive starwars fan but I love lightsabers and figured I would try to make my own. Great video, very nostalgic!
This is amazing, keep up the great work. Maybe you could make color and light somehow as well. Or maybe even the Darth Maul double blade.
@Don't read my profile photo stfu that is not even original at that point
Maul blade would just be two Sabers attached to each other (just like Maul did).
Hey Joel! Your design helped me design the internals of my prop lightsaber that I 3D printed and used a polycarbonate blade with! Thanks!
Definitely need a part 2 to this! I wanna see more of this paper towel tube saber!
I think, regardless of the method, the blade won't be as tough as a carbon fiber one, which makes it more of a thing to hold and barely move than a lightsaber toy.
I wonder how well something like glow in the dark or UV reactive paint would stick to the metal. It would most likely wear down after multiple extensions and retractions, but it might one of the simpler ways to get a glow effect. Reflector tape might also be interesting, but I'm not sure that it'd have the same effect.
LED tape is pretty thin...
8:30 How count dooku got his lightsaber
I think covering the spring with a UV luminescent material or paint could have a very interesting effect. Activating it in low lighting with a blacklight (as far away from the visible spectrum as possible to avoid the telltale blacklight purple that could tip off viewers) would give you a very intense glowing bar of deadly colour all of us desired as kids
Since the blade is metal, would electroluminescent paint work on it? I imagine it would give a pretty even glow as well
great idea!
The idea behind making it cardboard is amazing and unique! Especially considering you have pretty much everything to make it more 'movie like'.
Also, I have heard of the metal bow staffs while I've never handled those, I have spring steel and it's too easy to get cut even being careful. I'd advise wearing gloves when stretching it out like that 😅
To add to others' speculation on perforated spring steel coils, I wonder if it's possible to get access to laser micro drilling, like apple does on their macbooks, to get uniform looking light transmission? (Probably not, they seem quite secretive and I've not seen it much elsewhere)
Guilty as charged on the paper roll lightsaber thing, by the way ;)
This is the first of your videos I've ever seen, just showed up on the feed. Can't wait to binge the rest of your videos you seem like a pretty decent dude.
What was your favorite childhood lightsaber?
That random stick on the side of the road
ooga booga
@@barrysong9111 same
The one I kept like a secret to my family
the stick I cut off some tree
While seeing it light up would be really cool, I‘d love to see a version built to withstand, with stronger rings and maybe idk like, thicker spring steel? (idk how exactly that works)
I don't know what the best way would be to make a light up version, but I would think some very bright glow-in-the-dark paint would also be good enough.😊
All I can say is amazing work! Thank you for showing us what is possible.
as ever, my only complaint is the length of the video! but, with how heavily edited everything is, i guess it's a small price to pay for the overwhelmingly amazing content you release ❤️
what would be very epic is if it was also self retracting :)
but that might be too hard to do plus it would probably force you to completely scrap the current method that you're using :/
Ok ok OK! Very impressive! I would love to have something like this when I was a wee lad. Having the light element could really put this design over the edge
I was actually planning on building something similar thank you very much for helping me out with the design
if you cover the blade in, glow in the dark powder, instead of paper tape, it would glow in the dark.
There are two ways, to make it light up:
1. Have a glowing layer on the spring steel (OLED; glow in the dark paint)
2. Illuminate the blade from the hilt (fluorescent paint on the spring steel and UV lights in the hilt)
2 is probably better than 1, as glow in the dark paint would be boring and OLED would be very hard to get working, if at all.
That's a really interesting idea ngl
This is sick, the thinner blade also fits the concept art (and rebels) a lot more, super impressive
That is awesome! Next step, lighting up. Followed by custom hilts. Followed by combat ready/stabe blades that can still expand and retract.
Fantastic design. Thanks for sharing.
please do more of this, it's awesome
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I knew within a couple minutes your channel is my kind of channel. Keep it up.
Nothing like getting a random CZcams video recommendation and thinking, "Hey, I think I went to college with that guy!" Hey Joel! Congrats on the impressive channel!
i think one advantage with the spring steel is that is looks quite reflective. using that for the lightup feature in some way would probably be my direction for thinking up a design.
👏 Bravo!!! Your design is inspiring.
I will be waiting on the light up design! Very cool man!
The "What is a Lightsaber" intro was really cool. Words that I resonate with but never said out loud.
That is SO COOL! Congratulations!
your question at the end really has a no brainer answer my man. MAKE IT LIGHT UP!!!! :D Fantastic build and video.
I remember the ones back in the day right after the original a new hope came out, they were huge and used a tube like the ones used in golf club bags but were in either blue or red, swinging them made a sound and the faster you moved it the louder the sound was. Essentially the handle was kind of a funnel for the sound to amplify it. Didnt remember seeing the ones that extended until ep 1 came out.
oh PLEASE DO THE LIGHTUP!!!! its something we have all always wanted to see and it will be revolutionary
lots of potential here. Can't wait to see what comes next!
I was thinking of the metal staff when I clicked on this video, and I think its awesome that you were able to use it to make this lightsaber!
You should totally make it more of a custom hilt design based off your favorites from the movies or shows. And also you did super well, but it’s a “lightsaber” light is needed
Was not disappointed, very cool
I found out about the magician's batons a few years ago an immediately got one. Those things are dangerous! Very thin metal moving lightning fast, it can do some damage. I sawed the bit at the top that is there to hold it between your fingers so the shape looked better. My project stopped there; I'll look into your release mechanism as that is a non-trivial thing to figure out. I don't really think people realize what a feat that is. Truly excellent work!
Making it an internal extendable umbrella would be really cool for another video, specially being really cool and awesome materials you can use
I would love for you to make a part 2 in which you make this lightsaber realistic and more durable. Great video!
This is awesome would love to see a light-up design for sure.
what a nostalgia hit!
4:13 that ad is honestly one of my first memories
Hyper accurate design would literally be the greatest thing ever. I would legit buy
LETS GOO! please continue this project with a light up version! Make history for lightsabers!
For the light-up functionality, maybe you could take a hint from the OG propmakers. The original lightsaber prop used in episode 4 utilized an ultra reflective material on the blade portion and they just shined a light on it when filming to get it to glow. Maybe instead of putting a paper-like coat on the blade, you could use some sort of ultra-reflective tape, then shine a colored light on it to give it that blinding glow!
love this video. great job.. sure would love one of your light sabers :)
We will watch your career with great interest, young padawan! I hope to see the light-up design in the near future, since it's such a cool concept!
You could use colored neon paint/adhesive paper like they do in road signs or safety vests. UV responsive materials could also be a good fit for outdoor use
Inflate a tube that will roll out and stay ridged with small air pressure from a pump in the handle. And to retract it will use a motor that will pull the tube center back in on itself and roll the thin plastic tube into the handle. The air pump will have the added affect of sounding like the hum from the light saber.
I have an idea for a blueprint I've been working on for a few hours now. So simple to make, yet hard to actually make. Since the saber can retract and extend on its own, you don't really need individual neopixels for the ignition effect. So you can use a baselit flashlight instead for the lighting. We already have tubes that can retract that work just as well as our sturdy dueling sabers in terms of representation. So we can just use those, we just need a hydraulic system to ignite the saber and a safety release to instantly retract the saber. Since the blade is lightweight, all we need is a basic system made from a simple motor and springs. When combines and in the right lighting conditions, we can effectively have any size saber with retractable blades.
I uploaded a draft for a lightsaber on my channel. There are still improvements needed before I can build it.
This is honestly quite amazing
When I made my lightsaber in high school shop class 16 years ago I used a motorized antenna from an old Cadillac covered in a elasti-fabric sleeve. I'm surprised more people haven't tried it.
Holy crap! I had the same idea with that type of staff, but I never realized it. And I probably wouldn’t do as good of a job as you did. Awesome work! :D
Dude! that rocks!
You need to look into 3D printing the body in metal, super skeletonized / organic / generative design. This is something that a company like Autodesk and Desktop Metal should be sponsoring you for.
Music 4 mins in? What a drop. Also, awesome video. Would love an extending lightsaber to add to my collection. I remember my first being one of the solid coloured segmented ones back when I was a youngling 🤣
Definitely do the light up version. It would be so sick to see in action.
I recognized what you used for the blade immediately. I have one of those (an old magician's "appearing cane" version), but it's not in good shape, sadly. As to a "light-up" version, you could use the same kind of 3M reflective tape that they actually used for the original lightsaber props back in 1977 instead of the packing paper tape. The original design, IIRC, used a triangular rod with the tape on each side, and it would spin (as if attached to a Dremel tool) to provide a more "consistent" yet flickering light when reflecting back.
I can't wait to see what happens with the design next!
I need this to be a series you work on
Looks awesome
My first thought would be to use highly reflective tape or movie screen material. Like what flash jackets use. It wouldnt give the full radiance of a lightsaber, but it would look good in flash photography and be a nice nod to the original screen props.
Maybe a very reflective spring could be used along with lights in the handle that make it seem like its glowing, would only work in the dark to any extend though and i assume it would be a bit blinding too when looked at directly. But it could be worth a try
This is so cool!
As cool as it would be to see you make a light up version, I'm also interested in the talks of your thoughts on improvements or modifications you would make to the design either in other test versions or as you make the light up version, kind of like how you mentioned switching from the acrylic to aluminum
I vote for clear saber housing so you can see the color and detail of the insides. I like the green, polycarbonate might add sturdiness to those rings too, but I like the green rings!
I would convert the spring still ring into a drive mechanism for the blade. Then wrap the bracing rings in burgerblatt LEDs. It's around the whole thing in a plastic transparent plexiglass spring or ring system. I'd also reinforce the thing with flexible springs between the sections probably made him a flexible 3D printed filament and then cap the thing off at the end with some kind of protective and cap.
This would definitely make the blade bigger but it would allow you to have the same deployment mechanism a very strong blade and give you the ability to project a lightsaber-style upblade.
What you would end up with is a spring steel cord lightsaber blade reinforced with aluminum or hardened plastic bracing rings and a armored plexiglass shell. This would make the lightsaber effectively super duper duper duper strong.
instasub! great vid man, love the creative thought put into it! bring those dreams of the yester-years into the now!
full cnc handle would look awesome!
Freaking awesome! Recently ordered some parts to make my own polycarbonate lightsaber. Not inventive like yours, but exciting!
Make more!!! Lol and seriously pwn it get the lighting working! Maybe refraction with LEDs in strips so it can wrap with the release? Get it man, you're AWESOME!! ❤
Definitely would love to see a light up design.
A friend of mine and I always talked about how batman made a cape that was soft and rigid at will and how you could actually do that. Think Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins and the conversation with Morgan Freeman with the magnetic fabric stuff. I'd love to see how you tackled that problem and if it's actually possible.
What would have been cool is if the sound board sounded like an actual cardboard tube, like when you hit something it made the bonk noice the tube made. Then when you swing it, it makes a swoosh sound,and when you “ignite” it it sounds like lightning that fades into a winter sounding breeze. Then when you make contact with another blade it makes electrical sounds. I personally think that would be epic, but that’s just my opinion still an epic build.
dude this is awesome. If you can figure out how to make the blade retract and add lights, all that's left is for you to either create your own custom saber hilt to house the inner workings, or hollow out a preexisting, high quality lightsaber hilt that you can buy online and add your mechanism inside. That will likely be as close to a real-looking and visually/audibly accurate saber that anyone has ever seen. Seems like you're super close to that goal! If you figure those issues out and somehow started making more of them, there are TONS of people who would pay a lot of money for a realistically-sized fully functional (in all ways except for that whole real plasma blade that can cut through anything area) lightsaber. TBH, I am MUCH more impressed by your cardboard saber than that massive thing disney has shown. Really interested in seeing where this goes next!
More lightsaber action immediately
For a light up one you could paint the blade fluorescent color then add a black light to the end of the saber and have it turn on when the blade extends
AMAZING!
FYI, if you want to use cardboard tubes, then you need to go buy the "Bamboo paper towels". The cardboard tubes inside of them are THICK and about 3 times as tough and ridged as regular paper towel cardboard tubes. There are a number of different manufacturers of bamboo paper towels, but they all seem to use the same thick, sturdy cardboard in them. These tubes are in fact so ridged that they even retain their shape when you cut into them. Which you WILL need something much tougher then a pair of scissors to cut these things.
Great video quality.
I do have an idea for the light up ver. If there's enough room in the tube, put an led light on in the front and hook it up to a fiber optic cable. Of course, make the blade clear. Maybe drill in place the cable and put it at the end of the blade, and make sure the cable is long enough so it can reach the height of the blade when it's fully out.
Ah this will make a fine addition to my collection