6x17 Photography: Composing Panoramic Photos
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- This is Part 4 of my 4-Part Series on 6x17 Photography.
View Part 1 here: • 6x17 Photography: Basi...
View Part 2 here: • 6x17 Photography: Came...
View Part 3 here: • 6x17 Photography: Lens...
CHAPTERS:
- Intro: 00:00
- The two words for 6x17 composition: 1:22
- Expansiveness: 2:17
- Confinement: 11:26
- Other notes on composition: 16:16
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VIDEO DESCRIPTION:
Hey, fun fact: if you watch this entire 4-part series back-to-back it’s like watching a Chia Pet grow. What can I say? I’m growing my hair out and letting the beard fill in. Really embracing that “homeless guy” vibe.
Anyway, onto photography. Yes, this is the final part of my 4-part video series all about 6x17 photography. This time we’re talking about the artistic stuff. You know, the intangible stuff, the completely subjective stuff, the stuff that has no definite right or wrong and is perpetually debatable. Those are the topics I like to tackle because there’s no chance any viewer will find fault in what I’m saying. No chance.
So get ready, ladies and gentlemen, because I’m about to cure the entire world of artistic uncertainty. I have all the answers on what it takes to create a great panoramic composition. And I’m sharing all of those answers in this 21-minute video.
I’m just playin’ guys. Just some 6x17 goofin’. Despite all the “rule of thirds” crop overlays and “golden ratios” and that swirly line drawing thing they overlay on famous artworks to show how the artist used math to create a perfect composition…despite all that, I know composition is subjective and it’s not an exact science. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, to each his own, etc etc. But I thought you might like to hear my take on it anyway.
Enjoy!
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I learned 6x17 composition as an army tank driver.
The majestic hair-wobble makes this video endlessly re-watchable. Thank you!
God I would coat my wall with prints of your your dusk and dawn images
I’m sure if the price is right the flight’s tonight.
He does sell his work. His website is in the description.
Context, Context, Context! That's what 6x17 provides. Which is what your first example demonstrates perfectly. Your desert subjects, especially those that include a derelict structure, reproduce the atmosphere of the place and that moment. Always chasing that myself.
Another masterclass in composition from Nick. I am only a humble digital photographer but I have learnt more from Nick than anyone else on You Tube. Wonderful. Thanks Nick. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I live on the Great Plains, in the Platte River Valley, on the edge of the Nebraska Sandhills. My home landscape cries out for 6x17 composition.
Probably I am not the only one who is addicted to NK's presentations. Köszönöm, that's my way to say thank you in Hungarian.
We need to see those vertical panoramas on a wall, absolutely stunning
The biggest advantage of panoramic 6x17 is that it gives the subject more context or story. Story is the life of still imagery
Amazing collection of your work throughout this video! Your compositions really do connect and tell a story. This was also kind of a walk down memory lane given how many of these were featured in a past video highlighting how you scouted and made the photos. I just noticed that you hit 100,000 subscribers as well! Maybe that happened a while ago, but regardless, congratulations, Nick!
I LOVE this channel, Nick. Your videos are always a treat to watch. Regarding the point about symmetry, I'd say that the panoramas are actually more symmetric than their cropped counterparts. The backgrounds of the panoramas are more balanced. At 9:20, the two prominent trees on the sides are almost the same distance from the store and of the same height. At 9:33, the grass, cacti, mountains, and sky feel equally weighted on the left and right. At 9:50, the trees on the left are balanced by the poles on the right. When the photos are cropped, the asymmetry stands out more, and you lose the balance. At 9:02, the silhouette of the tree on the left is not balanced by anything on the right. At 9:26, the mountain and the cacti are more heavily weighted to the right. At 9:45, the poles on the right that would have balanced the trees on the left are cropped out, so it feels less symmetric.
Speaking of vertical panos Josef Koudelka has some of the best I’ve seen in his book Chaos
Had to look him up. Thanks for the recommendation.
It might be fun to “practice” 6x17 composition on our existing digital images by setting the selection tool to a 6x17 aspect ratio and selecting various crops, with an eye to compositional improvement.
Having gone to cal poly slo for journalism i find the Ksby image to be fascinating.
I love how the billboard screams commercialization and an inherent need to be connected at all times which contrasts daily life in slo so much.
Slo really is a bubble and it’s pretty out of isolated.
So it’s hard to remember it’s even part of California sometimes, which makes this billboard perfectly ironic.
6 x 17 Photography is something a lot of people don't put much attention on. I like it. It really does work . A nice perspective! Cool
A great way to implement this on digital is with tilt-shift lenses. Three shifted shots stitched together gives me a ~70mpx image that has given me some of my favorite shots in the past two years. It just requires a little more visualization since you cant see the overall image until you process it.
I use either a shift lens or a gigapan motorised head; visualisation is critical. For the gigapan, you need to shoot for the resolution you want at the edges - the perspective projection will stretch the edges a lot!
King Carver. Thanks Nick.. I'll buy you a beer in person next time you're in the UK.
I don't have a 6x17 camera but I started my first roll of 35mm on a Pentax 67(using the panoramic conversion kit). Going to try applying the concepts you taught here.
Absolutely fantastic videos by Nick. We are completely addicted and can't wait for new videos coming out. Fantastic knowledge and eager to share it. A true gentleman!!
I'm inspired now to break out my 1/2 dark slides I made for 4x5 and 5x7, hardly ever used. ..thought I clicked on Mat Marrash's Film Fridays at first with the big top-do :)
Pay attention kiddos.....Professor Carver is in the house..... Great info! Thank you Nick!
i love the aspect of vertical confinement! gonna focus more on the details rather than the obvious horizon shot. thanks nick, you‘re the man.
Thank you for providing me a proof - your video - so I can prove to my community that I'm not insane. I have a personal project where it's only about panoramas using technical cameras. None of my friends were convinced about the idea thinking it's meh. Although I did mention most of the points you mentioned in your video, but you did more than that. And for that, I thank you ❤
Excellent video as always. Shout out to the bouffant.
The 6x17 ratio is perfect in my eyes and I use it to shoot cityscapes.
I have a humble suggestion, if I may: I'd watch the heck out of you giving a breakdown (both artistic and technical) of your images. My favorite image out of all your work I've seen is the cactus-scape at 3:00 and I always wonder about the mental and technical aspects behind such a superb image. The cactus image at 9:31 also looks like a great image for commentary because I can only imagine the process of getting both the foreground and background in focus on such a large format. Cheers and thanks for helping me and many others start of the weekend right!
Whaaaat a masterclass from you Nick, again, thanks a lot for your amazing work 🙌🤝.
Good to see you doing a few more videos Nick. I don't do film or pano's but good to hear about techniques and the like used as can try and apply the thought and theory to my own workflow.
This was suggested to me by CZcams.
My preferred equipment at present is a Lumix S1R and Canon TS-E lenses.It's less flexible than a view camera, but it seems to be getting a bit heavy lately. I can stitch to get a wider view and the multiple images are coplanar so don't get that distortion. There are videos on straightening stitchups too, one I did looks a bit strange because I was too close.
I saw someone complain about distortion with a 10mm ultrawide prime on 25mm, but in truth he too was too close. I have a 14-28 on my S1R, and a 7-14 for Lumix G9. The 14-28 has a flat face, if I want I can put filters on it, easily. My TS-E 17 and 7-14 are pregnant, I have to work around that bulge.
I really like the vertical ones! As always, great video!
what a great presentation on composition !!
Um, Um... "6 x 17 Photography: Printing, mounting and framing panoramic photographs." There, I took care of the title for you. 🙂👋Amazing series Nick.
“Tobacco pipe and ascoty about it”😂 I’m definitely stealing that line. I always look forward to your videos! I’m going to try incorporating some of there concepts.
One of those great instructional pieces that organize and make sense of what we suspected at the gut level. Now I have to go back and see the other three.
One of my best panoramas (not made as a 6x17) is the sunset on Mount Everest and the sourrounding mountains, it cant get more “mountaineous” than that - at least not on mother Earth
Nick, thanks for generously sharing your knowledge. I really enjoy your compositions and especially appreciate how you handle the edges of your frame. When my eye gets to the edge, I'm always drawn back in, but it's never forced. The subject is interesting enough that I want to remain in the scene you have captured.
What a great video! And you had me laughing out loud as you mimicked someone looking at wide vista, slowing moving their head left to right looking at the horizontal axis and then quickly nodding up and down at the vertical axis. Really good stuff, thank you!
Nick, I’m getting addicted to your videos and work. Fantastic images with the 6x17!
Loooveeee it!
Outstanding. Thanks.
Well done sir, thanks! I don't do 6x17, but I love panos!
Excellent series.
Alright Nick, you've convinced me. My next camera purchase WILL be a 6x17, for which Angus Noble of Noble cameras will no doubt be relieved as he has been pestering me for a while to purchase one of his fine cameras. However, I am concerned about one thing... Which is the height of your quiff that is about to escape the confinement of my monitor. This could result in me purchasing a computer monitor with movements. As you are no doubt aware, this may be expensive, so I am relying on you to mitigate the costs...😉
Wonderful composition information, It went well with a nice bourbon.
Awesome content! Thank you, Nick!
Friday and a Nick Carver video, can't be much better. Keep up the good work!
Inspirational!
Nick, always a great lesson.
Now please do 4x5 or an overall full course on composition!
I've never shot film in my life, yet I think this is possibly my favourite youtube channel. I just love how you see the world and then show us with such a calm and well reasoned thought process. Great video.
Thanks Nick.
Thanks for another great one! I find it fascinating how much I like your videos even though I don't use film and my compositions are mostly square(-ish). But your points in this one made so much sense! And I feel they might be helpful to me, even though I'm not planning on composing in 6x17.
Well done Nick!
Beautiful images!
Looking forward to your vertical 6x17 compositions
Super thank you ! Have a nice week end
Great series Nick!
love this commentary, my favorite of the series!
Another great one. Love your 6x17 work, would love to get into it down the line
Videos on composition are my absolute favorite. Thanks!
'Really enjoyed the 6x17 series. Thanks, Nick.
Amazing masterclass.
Very nice discussion of a complex topic.
Thanks Nick. Your videos are consistently good. This one is a ripper!
What a great way to start the day! This entire series has been great and one I will come back and watch a few more times I'm sure.
Great job x 4! Well done.
superb! as always mr. Nick. 🤘😎
Great insights in 6x17!
keep the videos coming!
Please stay with such regular uploads!
An outstanding wrap to your 6x17 format series.
A great and imformative video. I did a panaorama on a beach, 6 frames on a Leica M3.Tripod and checking where to start and where to end! About 45mins later, now a race with setting sun. 6feet x 8 inches high! What i had slight curvature (the Earth). Your way better, way better. Also only one frame to contend in printing! * I used film, pre-digital. The Cactii the best! Train in desert 2nd. 3rd All the rest! Bravo.
A great lesson of composition!
The best channel about panoramic
Photos. You are great.
Great video, thanks very much.
Great videos on 6x17, one of my favorite formats.
Very cool, a great series for 6x17, with all the details you need. Thank you for this! Cheers, Seb
Great series, terrific channel and your online classes are outstanding.
Thank you for sharing all that good information
14 minutes, the big tree, amazing shot! I've tried to fit the height in on similar circumstances - you backed up and it didn't work as well. I tested out taking a second panorama of a scene, higher up and joining the 2 panos as a top and bottom, showing the whole size of the massive object - still don't work as well as leaving it chopped off into the unknowing! I found it to be like yours, the confinement was what did it, your head can imagine the tree far bigger. I didn't know the words for it, now I can consider it properly in future, so thanks!
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. I love this channel.
Gorgeous. Compelling as always Nick. Thanks for putting words to why I enjoy your photography.
So very informative and helpful
Fantastic content, great teacher, beautiful intentional photographs!! Your work speaks volumes.
You've made me understand panoramas! Thanks. Think I'll go and give it a go now.
Excellent series, thanks Nick. Your clear definitions and explanations have clarified why I love 6x17 so much.
Thanks Nick. Great video about panoramic photography. I'm new to 4x5, but have shot digitally for a long long time. One of my favorite features about the GFX 100s is the 65x24 option. It makes such a difference when pre-visualizing a shot. I'm debating getting a 6x17 back from my TZ45.
Hi Jeremy, have you printed GFX 65x24 files? If so, how big of a print can you get out of it? I know it is relative but I am talking about gallery quality prints. Thanks.
Excellent video again much of what you teach comes very naturally when i take images but you go much further and make it clear why much wider is better than just a bit wider and why the hight is is less important as hight is better implied than seen. thanks again
Thank you, Nick! Really enjoyed this video, and the whole series!
I really enjoy shooting 6x17 and you are a big inspiration!
Wonderful video Nick. Really enjoyed this. Congrats on 100 subs! 👊
have to say, am loving your videos (although I also have to admit to being digital)... found you through the "Tethered" chat you had with Thomas Heaton - and so glad i did! Love your images 😊( and the content)... thank you!
Great tips. Panorama aspect ratios are definitely a compositional challenge, but definitely worth the output!
Thank you Nick, you really nailed it. This is the first time I found someone bringing all the essential bits and pieces of panoramic photography to the point. I feel like I subconsciously knew some of this, but you made it so very obvious. Thanks again and I try to keep this in mind for my next panoramic shots.
I love you Nick
Thank you for such great content. It must take a lot of effort to produce such quality videos.
Really nice pictures of not so "glamorous" subjects! Bringing out the best in them! Great video.
Wow! That is one of the very best photography instructions I have ever seen. And it doesn't hurt that the presentation is so "informal" (like a chat with a long time friend) but sharp. I missed the first 3 lessons but will certainly go back to them.
Brilliant video Nick , really inspired me to look at the landscape in a different way , love your stuff even though I don’t do film or whisky !
Excellent presentation! Your next assignment, should you choose to accept it, is a discussion of the square format. 😊
What’s cool about about Ai Dall E2 is that you can add content to the sides and come up with great panoramas.