Olympus OMD EM1 III: HANDS ON first looks
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I get hands-on with the Olympus OMD EM1 III and show you what's new!
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Seems like a natural upgrade to my original E-M1 when prices drop a little after the initial rush. Yes, I'm disappointed that there's no new sensor but hey, one has to live in the real world. :)
@@BobAndersson it's definitely a decent upgrade to your Mark I, but then so would the Mark II.
Still checking OMD reviews ... Most reviewers of OM-Ds say that LiveSCP menu system is intimidating. Try following:
Menu> CogWheel> D1> Control Settings>P/A/S/M/B ... Uncheck "LiveSCP", Check "Live Control".
Then switch the camera to PASM or B mode, and to enter menu press "Ok". Everything important is on the right column, while you see all possible options on the bottom. I prefer this method, since i dont use touchscreen, and i can change settings while looking through EVF, without losing view of the subject.
Live SCP will be still available, but through "Live View" button and then OK, in case you like to adjust sharpness, saturation, white balance or other more detailed settings.
Thanks Gordon, a very fair review.
For me, like the EMX - there just isn’t enough to upgrade my EM1ii.
They’re all fantastic cameras (love my EM1ii), but I worry about the ‘sameness’ across the three cameras. m4/3 cops enough abuse on the interwebs, I was really hoping to see a significant upgrade here including a new sensor.
Completely agree. It looks more like an "S" version than a truly new model. Same everything with the exception of the processor and joystick. I wonder where is Olympus heading to with such modest upgrades in the new Mark III bodies (EM5 and EM1).
Sadly, if you look at their sensor supplier Sony, they don't have a new sensor availible, that suits the EM1 specs. Oly had to go BSI, which today maxes out at 11 fps with AF (on A6600). I think to slow for a EM1. The stacked sensor technology of the A9 is also still not adoptable for sensors with higher pixel pitch. So Oly has to wait. And tbh, it whould make more sense to introduce a new sensor in the flagship.
Great review Gordon! Some really nice features in the Olympus. That stabilization... wow!!!
Thanks!
Very good and well researched review which covers so many pros and cons. This is one of the most honest review channels on youtube. It also contains a ton of information not covered in even ten times the length in many other reviews. Well done for keeping things terse, to the point and comprehensive.
Thanks, that's what I aim to do!
Actually, the power lever is in the same spot as the OM-1, etc. Thanks for a great overview Gordon!
One thing I wish olympus would do is put an aperture ring on the lenses, then let the front dial control SS and the back dial control EC. My olympus stylus has a control ring on the lense which controls the aperture or SS depending on which mode you are in. I really like this approach.
A good review, as always! I might suggest not speaking over the demonstration of the shutter sound, however ... 😉
Excellent review as always. Your early previews are more complete than most others full reviews. Unless Olympus has another model near the horizon this mark three feels very lacking. I think the point you made about product cycle is the most significant. Although this camera is fine right now for most applications, knowing it will likely be another four years before there is a new sensor in the em1 line makes it a much harder sell and the same is likely true for the em5 and rm10 series. With every player now in the mirrorless business and everyone else on a much faster product cycle it's in a year and a half to two years where this product is likely to really start looking outclassed.
It's interesting that for now at least they are keeping the Mark II in production but I think the used Mark II market is going to be this cameras biggest competition. If you can get a Mark II for 300 less without giving up much capability, why not a slightly used Mark II for 800 less, and with the Mark II staying in production they are guaranteeing there will be more Mark IIs moving into the used market. Well, maybe a Pen F II with a new sensor is coming after all.
Great video thanks. Seriously looking at one of these. The unintentional comedic bonus of listening to you talk continuously all over the shutter sound demos was HILARIOUS! 😁
I've been a Panasonic user and bird photographer for more than ten years, but I will now be changing to Olympus with this new model. Thank you for a very fair first review. Looking forward to your in depth soon.
Power & Charging over USB-C is fantastic for timelapse & astrophotography and that on its own is enough of a reason for me to upgrade
All the other features (Live ND, Hand Held Hi Res, joystick AF, ...) are just nice little extras.
The vlogging test was great!
Thanks!
I joined your tribe Mr. Laing...Always watched your channel and have been very well informed...
Thanks for all your hard work.
As always, keep up the good work and keep'em flying...
8 seconds handhold? Holy macaroni!
Holy hell. If this camera had 10 bit 400mb/s video I would buy it rn. That ibis is godlike. And the af is very impressive.
My G9 does 2160p60 and has 2x UHS-II slots. I haven't found an actual need for UHS-II cards yet, but the option is there.
Still very much looking forward to your full review on this baby.
Brilliant and in depth "first look" as always, thank you. Only one small criticism, we didn't get to hear the shutter without your voice over at the same time. Love your videos, even though I'm not in the market for a new camera.
Thanks, i agree about not hearing the sound very clearly. Unfortunately the sound wasn't recorded very well in the field, so I didn't concentrate on that section.
I am seriously considering to upgrade from the Mark 2. Only because of the joystick and the Live ND. Not carrying a tripod when crawling through the woods seems so tempting.
Hi Gordon, I'm looking forward to watch the full review. I love your videos! I am very happy with my em-1 mark iii. For me, the most important thing for choosing the new Olympus was portability! What other system offers me the compact size and weight of the em-1 iii + Leica 100-400 set? For Wildlife and Birding, with long hikes to the mountains, it is an excellent system. Besides, I already have excellent m43 lenses. In my case the m43 is the perfect system and I hope it continues to exist. I hope to see a GH6 in the coming months! It will be a great sign of vitality and hope for the system after the recent Olympus announcements. Greetings from the Black Forest!
Great review as usual Gordon. The features and packaging are very endearing, even if they fall short of the very best. Key points - fantastic focus, an absolute must, IBIS, same again and, of course, that flippy screen. With a tough little body and good looks (yes!), and the sensible(?) price, it's almost compelling - for your average enthusiast and a budget to work to. Mmmmm.
Thanks!
Looking forward for the full review
3:10 The front dial is clickier? Fantastic! That mushiness on my EM1.2 is NOT good; never liked it. Auto ISO in manual video is a great feature too, and may even be a nod to you, Gordon, specifically ;-)
We always hear the “look at the competition”. But if you are in the Olympus eco system, then we talk about Panasonic. I think for me the question is more as an Olympus shooter, does it make sense to upgrade fromm m1 Mii to this one. Eventhough I like a lot of the new features but it is a lot of money. There are two areas I would like to see improved: the EVF and the noise level.. so based on that, this camera is not for me I will stick with the MII.
Thanks for the good initial review.
By the look of the position on your tripod they kept the old tripod location position. Shame as a lot of plates will block the battery door
It looks like a solid upgrade for the EM1 series. Thanks for this great first look at it, and I'm looking forward to your full review.
Great video, I'll be sticking with the mkii for now. The lack of changes with this camera, I think highlights that Olympus are struggling. I'll be looking out for other systems.
They are simply running out of R&D budget. Then you only can reuse. Look at the near-bankruptcy Nikon with the Nikon D6 turd muffin.
When Fuji updated the X-T2 to X-T3 with minor improvements (and still no IBIS and same sensor), everyone said that it was a worthwhile improvement!!!
Wouldn't blame the sensor and processor for lacking 4K60p as the G9 (which shares the sensor and is 3 years older) is capable of shooting 4K60p. I love my G9, don't think I'll be changing camps any time soon. But I would love the handheld hi-res and live ND features.
Likewise, and the internal 'Keystone Compensation'' and 'Live Composite' features since the G9 is Panasonic's photo-centric m43 flagship body.
Anyway, didn't want to be too negative, If I could comfortably use slr-style bodies, I'd buy it for the 7-stop IBIS alone, that is unreal.
@@corygraw9729 Interesting experience you have there. I use an E-M1 I with 90mm, 180mm and 300mm legacy MF lenses, and the latter with a 1.4x TC giving 420mm, or 840mm FF equivalent, all hand held, and I find the IBIS, even of several generations ago, very useful and effective. I doubt a camera with several stops better IBIS than I have would have any problem delivering significant utility at focal lengths greater than 40mm.
CWB Ray I recently took some panning shots and you definitely need to get the right IS settings. Panning cars I set my EM1ii to vertical shake only and it made a massive difference. This was on the 12-100 at the long end going down to 1/30s
On my first try I accidentally left it on in all directions and testament to the amazing IS, many of them came out with a sharp background 🙄🙂 I didn’t try real slow then as I knew something was going wrong.
Glad to hear about the price point and keeping the Mark II. It shows they are doing better at being aggressive with the price. Oddly B&H is trying to sell it for $2399 where as Adorama is $1799.
Thanks for a great review. I really like the AF joystick, but the rest seems less exciting to me. I really like Olympus, but I think I'll spend my money on their lenses or something else. I already have an EM1 Mark ii and that is more than good enough for me. If I had an EM5 mark ii and was looking to upgrade this would be a lot more tempting. Happy to see they're upgrading their line, but I will probably wait for the next iteration.
Thanks Gordon. Always enjoy your to the point and no fluff delivery. I like the look of the iii. Have you found any differences in functionality between em1x and iii joystick?
Good question. Not obviously, but I'd need to take another look.
9:57 in camera stacking is nice :)
Yes and for more frames than the Mark II
@Michael Whyte ah, I didn't realise that. No, the Mark III is 15 frames as well.
Thanks Gordon, I think you have answered my questions here. I have a EM1 that I'm looking to upgrade. The Mark ii is still a great camera and while it would be nice to have the latest, the price difference is nearly $1,000 in Australia - even more if you compare to internet only suppliers. Faster autofocus (for birds) and high resolution option is what I was chasing. Happy to do high res on tripod.
It's a good camera, but after the latest Panasonic G9 update, along with the lower price, it makes the G9 a compelling choice if someone wants to go M43.
The only problem is... it's not an Olympus.
Although the G9 is an amazing camera with more video options (an better video codec), a better EVF and a cleaner fully touch menu system than the Olympus EM1 mark 3. The Olympus stands out with its phase detection continual auto-focus and better stabilization. For birds in flight photos and video, the Olympus outperforms the Panasonic with a better keeping rate (the evf keeps up on Olympus while the G9 show the last frame). The arrival of the new 150-400mm f/4.5 lens (with internal 1.4x teleconverter) will be a turning point for Olympus user’s looking for wildlife photography and videography. Face and eye tracking are much better on the Olympus for wedding photos and video, (thanks to a fast phase detection continuous auto-focus). For bracketing photos, the Olympus offers a much broader range indoor or real estate photos (Max EV range in AEB, Olympus 14, Panasonic 8). Handheld hires, internal electronic ND filter and autofocus starry AF are fantastic assets not found on Panasonic! Olympus has two types of internal HDR. The IBIS is superior on Olympus, no video "wobbling" with electronic stabilization for Vlogging. A 2 sec pro-capture is truly incredible! In addition, the Olympus camera is smaller, more discreet for street photography. In addition, Olympus PRO lenses with fixed aperture are outstanding build quality while the Olympus f/1.8 prime lens are cheap and still deliver amazing images quality (just not weather sealed though). Olympus camera are more customizable, just more options to fine tune. Olympus has a lens "roadmap" when there is nothing to advertise at Panasonic. Weather sealing at Olympus is the best in the industry. Not to mention that the Olympus comes with an external flash for the price!
I guess your partner is not an Olympus but you still would not refuse making love to her/him.... Fanboyism is so,silly 👶👶🏼👶🏻
sylvainhimmo good comparison. 👍But from what I have heard the 150-400 is huge ( not much smaller than FF) than and will cost btween € 9000-1000 euro. So I guess 90% of us cannot afford it🤔
Didn't Olympus tell us a few years ago that 6.5 stops of IBIS was the max possible due to having to contend with
the rotation of the earth? Have they made strides in antigravity that I'm not aware of?
The IBIS seems to work very well for video.
Many Thanks Gordon, for the thorough and precise review of EM1 Mark III.
I still believe that Olympus should upgrade its Camera Sensor, two battery slots and also add Video Capability at 60 FPS in 4 K, considering that Canon has already included 8 K Video in its EOS R5 full frame new camera.
Let's wait for the price of the r5.
Can’t wait for your final review on this!
Jeez I want it lol
I have the EM1.2 and perfectly happy with it. But with Olympus future in question since they sold out. I will most likely move to FF in a couple years. Watching to see how the Nikon Z system fills out for wildlife shooting. Oh well is what it is.
Shame that we're still using the same sensor, mft seems like it's lagging in getting access to improvements like bsi, variable exposure hdr video, readout speed, and the like.
But as I said in the video, is it good enough already?
The GH5s has a m4/3 BSI sensor - go to Dpreview and look at their studio scene test shot images and compare it's images to an E-M5. That's right, the original 2012 E-M5. Personally I don't see what the fuss is about BSI on larger sensors..
@@cameralabs Exactly. People tend to think sensors are supposed to sell like iPhones... and change every single year. They don't. This is an amazing camera for anyone who knows what photography is all about.
@@MuertoInc This camera is very good but not so good when you come to price point... The Panasonic G9 is 1000$ now and this one is 1800$. Is the panasonic G9 so far away from it ? Yes for autofocus, no for everything else.
1fareast14 correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the 20 mp MFT sensor on the em1 have one of the fastest readout speeds?
Gordon, lovely reviews man, such dedication
Thanks! It's a slow slog even to 200k! PS - I visited Bulgaria about 10 years ago and had a lovely time, especially around the ski areas of Bansko and Borovets, hiking in Summer. I also stayed in Rila Monastery which was amazing!
Great review as always, I think this could be a good travel camera for me.
Thanks man 🙌
Thank you Gordon. Very well done review. Lots of information to process, as I will watch this review a few more times. I have been shooting Panasonic Lumix, G9 and GH5 for a long time. I wonder if Panasonic will upgrade those cameras. It appears the Olympus auto focus is a lot better. I have a number of Olympus lenses, the 300mm F4, and the 40-150, with the fragile lens shade. Olympus makes great glass. I am just waiting to see if Lumix updates the G9 or moves all the way to full frame. Again, very well one. I'll keep wtching your reviews. All my best!
When are you doing an in depth review of this model Gordon? Love your work by the way. 😎
Thanks, glad you like my reviews. It's too late to do a full review now as there'd be minimal demand sadly. BUT I am hoping to do a series of videos about light options and there would be an Olympus episode!
Given your objective loyalty to Olympus over the years Gordon, it's pathetic that Olympus didn't send you on the Costa Rica trip instead of the simulated jungle at Kew. The best review of all by the way, not focused on the presenter as some do (who mentioned DP?), and not a fanboy looking for a future launch trip.
Better body for birds in flight that the G9 because it has two types of autofocus and the stabilization in the body makes stabilization in a lens such as the Panasonic-Leica 100-400mm unnecessary?
Locking on autofocus for birds in flight would provide me with a light system but with better continuous autofucus? Olympus has some nice lenses also.
mwah you ,might wanna check Lumix Photographers on Facebook the GG with the 100-400 does a great job
No, Gordon, you'll only get a coffee with the release of a proper EM1III review!
I do hope your very next post is a throwback video to your OMD EM5 review!
I remember it well, but I didn't make a video about it at the time. I do still have it though, so i could do a new video about it in the future depending on how popular this series turns out.
That was a awesome camera
I always appreciate your reviews. Very sober unlike those underhanded I marketing tactics/rumours that are all over youtube these days.
Very useful,like usual.Straight to the point,with lots of details.Thanks a lot!!😊
you're welcome!
At present you can get the Mark II for $410, the Mark III for $700 and the X for $710...if you wanted a sports camera today, which would you say is the one to get?
I would love to see Olympus add 400fps slow motion video. Nikon had it in their V1 camera. Great for action, lots of fun.
I remember the V1 fondly! Sony offers 250, 500 and 1000fps slowmo on some cameras like the recent RX100 series.
Great content upload G. This camera may make it ough for it's competitors to catch up
Thanks for this excellent initial review!
Wow, this is an awesome camera, and for only slightly more than the unwhelming point and shoot Fuji X100V compact.
c0ldc0ne I would tend to agree with Tim, I like the x100v but it's too expensive for what it is (for me anyway), a fixed lens street shooter. It's a nice camera though.
I can see buying this later but right now at this new price it just isn’t enough of an upgrade over my EM1.2. I was really hoping for all they have done here but with a new higher resolution EVF. I do like the AF toggle and improved eye AF and even better IBIS.
I would love it if someone would test the focus speed with the old 4/3 lenses with this camera.
wow 5:33, no dual uhs-2 because they couldn't reuse a board? At least they're honest, but that's one of the key things for a sports camera.
They couldn't fit in a new board without redesigning the entire camera, and that was too big a step for the marginal gain this time.
I was positively surprised they came out with a mkiii at all.
Olympus just moved manufacturing from China to Vietnam and therefore probably couldn't redesign the whole thing in a short amount of time.
I am suspecting a leap to a 47mp sensor (rumored) in the next upgrade with topaz-like noise reduction.
Otherwise, I still love to take my old em5ii out to shoot, it's a joy to use for it's functionality, and I am not freaked out about specs vs the love of photography.
Technology isn't everything, even though it helps in certain professions.
My Canon gear weighs about six kilos and stays at home, but its a different tool for a different purpose.
Tx Gordon!
Thanks Gordon, Auto ISO in maual video!!!! Yes!! Get in!!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏😁😁😁👍👍👍
I know, at last!
My EPL-9 does auto ISO in manual video since 2018 😂
Thankyou - a really fantstic complete review
Auto iso in manual movie. Yay! I don't understand why this feature is left out so often. Can vloggers finally rejoice?
Gordon, is the absence of 4k 60fps due to a sensor limitation or is it Olympus' choice? Any chance that 4K 60 fps will be available in a future FW update? Thanks for the great work!
As per usual my friend. A fair review. Excellent video. Congrats!
I have been shooting with the same E-M5 mk 2 for too long. I wanted to upgrade to the E-M1x, but I think this camera fits my budget a bit better 😉
Thank you for your outstanding impartial review.
MuertoInc You bring up a good point. From this point forward, where will the market for the E-M1x reside? This EM1 mk 3 with smaller form factor with basically the same features and lower price point sounds the “death knell” for the M1x, I suspect. I trialed the M1x for a day during a promo event for it when it came out last year, and the weight and size differential from my EM1 Mk2 soured me on upgrading at that time. It’s one pound heavier, I believe, but felt like 3 lbs carrying it around for several hours.
Not a big improvement over the previous E-M1 but it was pretty good already.
Topnotch video as usual!
Thanks! It as always going to be hard to improve on that one.
Same with the Sony A9II vs A9, an underwhelming "upgrade"
True, that's what Fuji has been doing with the X-T series, and nobody complains about it.
@@TL-xw6fh Olympus set the bar like reallllly high, and that is a bad thing. The industry is not as lucrative as it used to be, the competition is high and expectation of breakthrough innovations is like a pain in the bum for oly. Because even loyal oly customers whine "There is no innovation, so why should i upgrade?" and this time - i agree
Yet another great review however I really don't think there are significant improvements in this model to justify an upgrade from the em1 Mark ii. I was hoping for a new sensor, improved evf and touchscreen. I'm not sure what Olympus business model is but apart from the improved IBIS and weather sealing does this system make sense in a world of similarly priced full frame mirrorless systems?
Yes, this system makes a lot of sense to me. The lenses for FF are twice the size and weight, and in many cases twice the price too. So I don’t really care if a FF body is cheaper and the same size. And the IBIS will never be as good as MFT, that’s just physics.
Looks like Olympus is becoming a master of reusing stuff. The sensor is a reuse of the sensor in the E-M1X which was reused from the E-M1 Mark II :) And the rest is reused from the E-M1X. So where is the innovation here which was a strength of Olympus? Or is this a sign then Olympus is running out of R&D budget (money)?
I don't really get this argument, I'll be honest. And feel free to explain why. If you've followed Olympus for a long time, you'd know that they reuse parts and transplant features for all of their future releases, like all the time. This isn't even remotely a fresh observation. But this is why fans always hope for the innovation of their more expensive cameras to trickle down to their smaller and less expensive bodies. Yet others complain. Some were legit excited for an E-M1X feature-set on an EM1 series. They didn't exactly get that here, but that demand exists. And where did high-res shot come from? It is a real shame that Olympus is dawdling in catch-up, and the minor upgrades and new stuff aren't compelling enough, but to say that they're not innovating enough still doesn't have enough nuance in it.
Thanks for the review Gordon - For me I own the em5 mkll and Pen-F. So in view of this review and others I have just purchased the OMD EM1 MKll. For me the extra cost for the MKlll is not really worth it. thank you
Wise choice
Hi Gordon I’ve just bought one of these cameras and so checking out those who have done reviews on this, I liked yours to a degree, but after a short while I found that you speak very quickly and that everything seemed to start to roll into one, as a former tutor, I understand that sometimes it’s difficult to change from your normal speaking or delivery, to one that separates and gives the person time to grab the various points that you are making, may I suggest that you check out Rob Trek who has covered all aspects of the Olympus range and is also one of their visionary people, I also used to watch Joe ? So please don’t think I’m saying it’s awful, I thought your speech was very clear and understandable, just to speedy like you where just reading from the script, when I used to be talking about a product, I would have one in front of me and sometimes on the screen, so that people could see the various placement of internet and also this slows you down, just enough, a little like using a film camera, you automatically slow down, and think more about the subject and the implementation of what you want!
Ironically the 2 year old G9 might be an EM1 III killer. 4k 60, significantly better EVF, and already has Starry AF and a joystick, and has a more straightforward menu system. The differences between the IBIS is a non issue. They're both world class. Oh, and the G9 is a fraction of the cost now.
I agree the G9 is still an impressive camera.
Although the G9 is an amazing camera with more video options (an better video codec), a better EVF and a cleaner fully touch menu system than the Olympus EM1 mark 3. The Olympus stands out with its phase detection continual auto-focus and better stabilization. For birds in flight photos and video, the Olympus outperforms the Panasonic with a better keeping rate (the evf keeps up on Olympus while the G9 show the last frame). The arrival of the new 150-400mm f/4.5 lens (with internal 1.4x teleconverter) will be a turning point for Olympus user’s looking for wildlife photography and videography. Face and eye tracking are much better on the Olympus for wedding photos and video, (thanks to a fast phase detection continuous auto-focus). For bracketing photos, the Olympus offers a much broader range indoor or real estate photos (Max EV range in AEB, Olympus 14, Panasonic 8). Handheld hires, internal electronic ND filter are fantastic assets not found on Panasonic! Olympus has two types of internal HDR. The IBIS is superior on Olympus, no video "wobbling" with electronic stabilization for Vlogging. A 2 sec pro-capture is truly incredible! In addition, the Olympus camera is smaller, more discreet for street photography. In addition, Olympus PRO lenses with fixed aperture are outstanding build quality while the Olympus f/1.8 prime lens are cheap and still deliver amazing images quality (just not weather sealed though). Olympus camera are more customizable, just more options to fine tune. Olympus has a lens "roadmap" when there is nothing to advertise at Panasonic. Weather sealing at Olympus is the best in the industry. Not to mention that the Olympus comes with an external flash for the price! Both the Panasonic G9 or the Olympus EM1 mark III cameras have their strenghts and weaknesses and are just amazing cameras overall! It just depends of your needs, the features you are looking for and the way you use the camera at the end.
Contrast detect AF.👎🏻
thanks for the footage, i have zeroed-in on this camera due to IBIS, had bought sony a6400 but it was so so so bad that had to sold that...which lens would you recommend for this one..i am a travel vlogger, so sometime we speak to camera while walking, mostly try to capture cinematic scenes and low light performance will be also helpful, any recommendation?? Thanks in advance
Thnx Gordon! Hey, Oly guys - 4k 60fps is a must for 2.4k$!!! :)
V PR for 2.4k shouldn't you be comfortable shooting at 6400+ iso?
2:26 sigh, no video improvements. I feel like Olympus could compete with Panasonic with just a few firmware updates.
and on the flip side, panasonic has no phase detection autofocus. In fact the lack of phase detection on panasonic is even more ridiculed since it's now the only brand that offers it on none of their models not even the full frame high end ones.
the problem with the whole industry is how slow it is to improve. Olympus using the same sensor sounds bad but it's even worse on the Sony side where the A6600 is still using the same ancient sensor (with rolling shutter problem) as predecessors too
yes it is frustrating, although the video does gain the benefit of the improved stabilisation, plus the Auto ISO in manual exposure, OM Log, 1080 slowmo etc.
@@XieRH1988 All camera manufacturers should have learnt by now don't cripple your cameras. Give us the best you can at a price point or market segment. These days unless the camera is compelling people won't buy. It's a shrinking industry wake up guys else you risk going out of business.
XieRH1988 rolling shutter can fixed.. good luck fixing noise above 1600 iso on M4/3 where the A6600 is clean at 6400 iso n usable at 12800.
I agree BUT I’d take Olympus over Panasonic any day for straight out of camera image and auto focus. I don’t often color grade and I like AF for the work I do. If you shoot like this the Oly kills any of the Pannys.
Excellent overview of the camera. You suggest that there will be a more in depth review coming. Is that still the case, or did you finally decide that this one was enough. As I intend to buy this camera by the end of the year, I am interested in any new videos. As you say, we all have different reasons, and mine might be one you hadn’t considered. I want to buy a Panasonic because of stop motion features which will help me in my university animation courses. I decided to go for the G100 because it is affordable and also is suited to vlogging purposes. But because I am buying MFT lenses, I decided to also get the E-M1 III as well because of stabilisation and superior AF, plus starry night AF. For me it will be a vlogging companion to the G100 which will be more for the animation and creative effects that Panasonic is so good at, and of course the two cameras are small enough to go anywhere and work together for two views out in the field.
To me the Olympus is a very exciting camera, but the Olympus company does a lousy job of marketing, much like Panasonic. It stands in stark contrast to Sony, which is the master of marketing. Olympus would struggle to sell a fish in a fish market.
Very nice first look, Gordon. Thanks a lot! I just wonder how panasonic managed to add subject recognition (animal af) to the “old” lumix g9 but olympus didn’t manage to add it to a camera released in 2020. I hope they push it out via firmware update in the future...
They say it needs the power of the dual processors on the EM1X, plus I think they want some differentiation
Thank your a very honest review. It's a shame the improvements are so minor, I can't see any reason to make the jump from the Mark II. But to be honest I'm seeing a trend here......I just watched the Nikon D6 review......again, nothing to write home about.
I think maybe we all have to stop expecting each new camera to be a massive upgrade in every respect. It's just not possible all of the time anymore.
@@cameralabs Even Sony's A9 II improvements over the A9 were underwhelming, same for A7R IV vs III (in that case the gap was wider but nothing to write home about)
@@cameralabs I agree 100% with one exception....it's one thing to release a new product every 6 months to a year with minor enhancements, another to wait 3 to 4 years to release a new camera with 3 year old components and charge more. At the very least update the EVF and sensor. With everyone using phones for photography today, camera companies need to excite existing customer to upgrade. This will keep the money flowing into R&D for future products.
Hi Gordon, thank you for reviewing this camera, have been wanting to get a new one. Just wondering whether this model applies auto ISO as as the em1 mark ii only, or we can go manually with ISO while vlogging?
EM5 Mark III is the mini size of EM1 Mark II and the EM1X is the larger size of EM1 Mark II while EM1 Mark III is the mini size of EM1X....
All of them are using the same 20MP sensor....
So basically the EM1X bombed and Olympus needed to upgrade the MK2, so salvaged as much as possible into the upgrade. Not enough for me to change from my Mk2. If they had put in the train/car/bird tracking it would have been a better deal.
No, apparently they sold all of the initial 1X production run very quickly and than did a second run of twice the number and have sold about half of them.
I am a huge Olympus fan, I own the EM5.3 and a dozen lenses, but I’m very torn on this camera… they really compromised on the EVF and LCD, and the price now (August 2021) is still $1600! Way too expensive.
I’m afraid they took a page out of the Canon cripple-your-lower-models playbook, to drive (nonexistent) business to the EM1X.
Thanks a lot Gordan .... with such a good review I can already now say I have no need for upgrading from the MKII.
Where does it then leave an IQ hungry man? I will not know until 4 years have past and the MK4 appears. And who knows if Oly will be there anymore? Only Gordan Laing claims there's
Great, thorough review.
Another great review. Do you have any insight as to why Olympus doesn't add competitive video features to their cameras? The hardware in this and many of the other Olympus models is likely capable, it seems that only the firmware is lacking. And unlike Panasonic, Olympus has no professional video camera division to get in the way. Were they to release an Olympus equivalent to the GH5, but with PDAF, can only imagine how well it would sell. A terrible missed opportunity.
Hi Gordon, as always with you a nicely presented video full of facts. For me, not having touched a 4K video feature in the last 2 years, I am perfectly fine with the sensor in the EM1 III. I actually like it that we are now seeing evolution rather than revolution in new camera models in the MFT world. I feel that there is more fine tuning in the bodies from the manufactures than it would be if there would be always a brand new killer feature which has to be brought to market asap. I would be happy with either of the EM1s.
Very good fine first look! Does Mark III have artfilter, scene mode, automatic mode and double exposure? Thank you. I like Olympus since many years...nice they have not quit like rumors are in the air.
yes
Thanks again gordon
Bit of a disappointment if you were to ask me. Stills focused Nikon and Fujifilm recently have started to care quite a bit more about video. With Olympus deploying phase detect autofocus they have quite the edge over Panasonic's stubborn choice to keep at it with depth from de-focus, they would have had a good shot at gaining a bit of following from that if only they made it more attractive for videoshooters. But I guess it's called an alliance for a reason, probably need to respect eachother's niche markets. Shame. I had the first gen, it was pretty great, but now I'm really enjoying the G9 for stills and vid and GH5 as a video production tool. Knowing Panasonic the successors will be quite the step up. It still seems a nice camera, don't get me wrong, but following the Mark II this just appears a little lacklustre.
Great first look review!
Thanks!
Thank you for this detailed review. One question please : how are you recording the LCD screen to incorporate these records in your video ? For example when you are navigating inside the menus ?
I either point the camera at the back of the screen (so you see the buttons around it) or use an HDMI recorder.
@@cameralabs thank you. Any reference for HDMI recorder ?
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Thx, good Review!
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have the mk ii which i love and think this is quite disappointing, certainly nothing there that warrants buying the iii, would have expected a lot more. You have to ask is this going to do something important that the mkii can't and for me at least the answer is no. I think with cameras on phones getting better and better, physical cameras have to a point gone as far as they can go hence every new camera can only produce pretty minor improvements on its predecessor, after all the equipment is only part of the equation of getting a good photo ,most of it is down to the owner regardless of what camera your using. I have a panasonic g9 which compliments Olympus and panasonic superbly, cant see any need for an upgrade for a long time to come. Will always have cameras but its obvious why sales are diminishing.
I would go further still and say that neither the EM1 ii or its upgrade produces better photos than my Lumix GX80 with an exactly similar sensor. You could argue that the Olympus might have slightly more efficient image processing, but a Micro 4:3 sensor cannot create magic. It is STILL a 4:3 sensor. But my GX80 is now available for less than a fifth of this camera INCLUDING a fairly good kit lens. Micro 4:3 systems are great because you can get very decent images without heavy kit. Everything else is either because you love the feel and look of the device or because it might have a few extras that are NOTHING to do with core image quality.
@@fingerhorn4 well the lens and composition has a more important role in image quality, ive had ff etc and in the real world you cant tell anything apart ,if you put 10 pictures on wall taken with 10 different cameras no one would be able to tell you what camera/lens combo took which picture , there's more to an image than pixel peeping, image quality is great with phones nowadays so when people talk about iq its nit picking nonsense in the main.The only real advantage to a bigger sensor is wall sized prints and thats not needed other than for commercial reasons, for most its not necessary or needed. Good photography has nothing to do with sensor size.
@@fingerhorn4 FF also will not produce better photos, except marginally in some very specific circumstances: moving subjects in low light.
For me it is the opposite. Build-in Live ND, HHHR, Starry Sky AF and option to power the camera via USB are very nice additions and I'd use every one of them.
I'm hoping that if the rumor is true that Olympus is going to release two new cameras a year so maybe every 2 1/2 years we will see the upgrade.
29 min record limit?! WHY OLYMPUS?!
Most cameras still impose that limit.
Same person, same question, same answers as in another video you posted under. Why o why??
Hi, love the channel. I'm after some advice as I'm at a real crossroads with m 4/3 and OMD 1 mkii. I need an affordable ( no more £300) weathersealeded 25mm but all I can find is the Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 25mm F1.4 II and Olympus for over £500. I would consider a manual focus but that isn't my preference. I already have the SIGMA 16mm F1.4 DC DN, which is great and affordable I just need something similar for 50mm equivalent (second hand lenses under £300 don't seem available). It seems crazy that I have a weather sealed camera but the most popular lens isn't accessible. I am considering changing systems if I can't get the above, any suggestions or alternatives would be very much appreciated Cheers
09/11/2020 Thank you for this information.
Thanks you for this very good first preview.
One question. In another review I heard, that with an external hdmi recorder unlimited (time) recording is possible. Is this correct?
Wirh best regards
Could you compare the DCI 4K color science and strength of the video codec of the Mark III with the Mark II?
Thank you for this review. It's as all times very good.
For me, these Things are great:
- Handheld HighRes (Some times ago, many people said: this will never posiible)
- Much better face- and eye-detection (also with much improvement since the last firmware-upgrade for the Mark II, this fails in the Mark II)
- joystick (yeah!)
- Inside ND-Filters (sadly not for filming)
- mymenu
All these things I miss in my Mark II, which I love otherwise.
With EFV and sreen, I have no problems.
60 FPS in 4K would be nice, but its not a must to have for me.
Better HighISO-performance (less noise) would also be great, but I think, Sony will not give Olympus & Co. such a new sensor in next time.
Best regards
Andreas
congrats!! best tutorial about the M III so far! like it!
Thanks!