Should we buy this 500hp V10-engined daily driver?
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2021
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Mike has been going a bit V10-mad lately, be it Dodge Vipers or V10 TVRs. And with his V10 MX-5 project being delayed until 2022, he's decided to get a ready-made V10 in his life as a daily? What should he go for? You decide! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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BUY ONE!!
Get an E39 Mike. Much better car
@@animalcol1 true e39 is the best all round bmw imo, has a little bit of everything
Brillant video
Thats my dads old car! Crazy seeing that its still around with the numberplate 😂
Lol Hamza that’s crazy, you should try buy it back. Great for your youtube content but bad for the wallet lol
No way! How was his experience with it?
@@mikedrivetribe8314 Yeah it’s great to see it’s still out there! There’s a 10 year old revving clip of it on my channel (just sort oldest to new lol)
He had it for 5/6 years, it’s been while. From what I remember the only issues were constant 02 sensors. But he took out extended warranty for piece of mind. Sold it when it was on mid 50k mileage. Guessing it’s the had the full works from Mr Vanos now?
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@@TRHamza no need to lie, mate. 😂
This is like the only car where the US got the best version that other countries didn't (you could have an M6 with a manual in the states, no SMG finnickiness)
Who cares it still has a top speed of over 200 mph
@@anthonyk Having driven both an M6 and two M5's of this generation, their top speed is the least exciting thing about them.
No one had an E61 M5 with a manual, so the best doesn’t exist.
@@jochem1986 imagine a manual E61. That would be my ultimate dream daily by far. Especially in Interlagos blue, Logic 7 sound system, extended leather package etc.
Why wasn’t the manual offered elsewhere?
You have my vote. I daily drive an e60 M5. It’s awesome. I love the Smg 7 speed transmission. The shift speed is adjustable, if you turn it up to 6 it shifts in .4 seconds. Driving the car takes me away from the troubles of the world. I do all my own maintenance and repairs. It’s great to work on. Keep it full of the proper oil and don’t lug the engine to extend the life of the rod bearings. I have 100% confidence in my M5 and when it has a fault, I fix it. Cheers from the USA.
I daily drove mine too but was filling up about twice a week. She was a thirsty beast!
same (6mt e64 here) - daily it, do the maintenance, it's the most rewarding daily
as comfy as u want when u want
and screaming 8krpm v10 sport car when u want
edit: it's my only car !
Im with you brother, I own a white 2006 m6 and a 2012 m3. Rod bearings done and love these cars are bang for the buck a great choice specially m6s considering how cheap they go for. Rather buy a well taken care off m6 for 25k-30k and drop 3k on preventive maintainance and your only at 33k the cost of a brand new civic.. Amazing cars, both engines sound glorious.
I daily mine as well it’s a very rewarding experience
just picked up my m6 with akro straight pipe and i m nutting every time i drive
Might as well buy one and drive it as a daily while we still can! 🙃
Nobody is stopping anyone from purchasing used cars. Not even after 2030 🙂
@@ASRmann *No rules have been put in place YET to stop people buying used V8/V10/V12 after 2030.
@@1993j I do not believe they are intending on destroying the used and classic car market. That really does not make any logical sense. The idea is a gradual phase out of petrol and diesel cars running on the road. We will be able to run fossil fuel cars for quite some time yet, it will just become more and more economically unfeasible for 95% of the population to do so.
The v10 M5 is reliable even with smg. I have 2010 Bmw m5 v10 with 150,000 miles with the original rod bearing.
@@The_North0 Because you probsbly maintain it, and not trash it, even then, 150k is extremely lucky. I've seen them go at 30k. And i've seen plenty....
There's no other car like it (E60 M5), that V10 is EVERYTHING.
I have had F10 M5 Competitions, M4 Competitions and driven numerous other high performance cars...there is nothing in terms of a full package that comes close to the incredible driving experience that the V10 M5/6s gives you until you get in a supercar.
I'm currently running the only full-carbon plenum prototype in the world made by Eventuri with their intakes along with a custom made exhaust from Akrapovic and to me it's genuinely the best sounding car in the world. The banshee-like scream between 7-8.5K RPM is like no other along with the Aventador-like kick in the head shift that comes after, just an absolute beast. Then you've got features like Active Seats that just take the experience to the next level that even the M6 unfortunately didn't get.
Jeremy Clarkson just a week after reviewing the Ferrari F430 that it was the best car he's ever driven, says everything.
A legend forever...but I'd never run one without a warranty (over £30K and counting in 4 years as a weekend car!). Though with basic preventative maintenance these cars are the best value for money car you can get.
I'm on IG: blackbmwlife :)
I bought an e63 M6 in April, absolutely loving it. The gearbox gets less irritating over time, you learn to use the throttle pedal to 'make' it shift when you want it to in auto mode.
A set of slightly stiffer springs make them a lot livelier in corners and don't seem to make the ride much worse as they do in lighter cars.
The way I look at it, the opportunity to have a 500bhp V10 is not going to be around forever!
which springs did u go with
I owned one for 6 years... Glorious sound, insane revving engine and incredible acceleration. Mine was derestricted and I took it all the way to 204mph.
Just do your rod bearings... Never had a days issue.
I've had my M6 (same blue) for over 8 years, and it still puts a smile on my face, don't think I'll ever sell it, I get why people moan about the SMG but I wouldn't have it any other way I think it great, the punch you get at full chat when changing gear just adds to the experience, DC is great but you lose the rawness....14 years old and there's still not much that keeps up with it as far as daily drivers go, and sounds soooo much better than the turbo's do!
Just got for it !! I have exacly this car in same color and just love it. Bought it second hand back in 2009 and still a strong performer. Driven it around most of Europe over the years and done serious push the limit driving in the Alps on numerous occasions and having great fun. Yes small bumps on the way, but nothing serious and honestly it has been put to the limits. Every time I take it out for a spin it just lifts the spirit and gets you smiling
These cars are amazing, particularly even in manual. You simply have to conduct your maintenance preventatively which is no problem. The issue with these cars is they are affordable, and so most people that pick them up are broke and end up not spending any money on preventative maintenance. Even the SMG is a misunderstood transmission. It has lubrication issues, and is very easy to maintain and prevent from breaking with proper lubrication, that's it.
Had the M5 and can tell you you're wrong. While the car is absolutely amazing, it broke monthly for years. I had the SMG (it's faster than they say here in it's fastest setting at 65ms.) And while it was only a matter of time, that part didn't break. I did have a gasket leak all the transmission fluid on to my clutch and flywheel ($12,000 gasket failure). Each of the four actuators have weak plastic parts and the teeth wear out on every one. At $1000 each plus hours of labour - just do them all at once. At just 130,000 my catalytic converters were inefficient. All four of them needed to be replaced and two are built into the headers. Want to change the battery? Better have a bmw dealer close. Oil change? 9 liters of $20/l oil. Windshield? $1500 if you have the HUD.
But that sound 🤤. I refer to that car as my crazy ex girlfriend. A wicked fun ride but she has some screws loose
@@akaadamrg that's what I heard. The v10 is extremely unreliable...
Um no BMW’s are completely unreliable. That’s why you find them for cheap in the first place…..
@@akaadamrg a lot of what you described could have been prevented and the rest is wear and tear. I am amazed you went 130kmi on the original cats. Not marginalizing your experience just stating that you can catch catastrophic failure before it happens particularly in the case of your gasket which would have been sweating at a minimum. The SMG issue may have been caught if there was preventative maintenance done on the pump.
@@furretthefuzzynoodle3896 no. It's just what you get for driving a 500hp v10. It needs tlc. People maintain them like they are a corolla.
These things are really interesting. I’d love to see you do a series on it
I myself have an 08 s85 m6 and when I tell you driving it around casually is a real treat but it’d be awesome to see someone like you do a full on in-depth review of the car
4:50 that transition is gorgeous. Give your editor a pat on the back! (And maybe a christmas honus)
I actually like the styling, the weird lines through the headlights and kidneys sorta add some suave.
The car might become a pain in the lower back, but i think it looks and sounds pretty neat.
Much better than oversize grill.
Great video! More of these please
Mike, if you can make it happen, I say go for it! It would make for a fun series of videos, and it would give a V10 the love it deserves. The days of the V10 are severely numbered, and they're only going to become more rare.
As an owner of a White M6 2006 for 5 years I can say its a beauty. Drives great, super fast and very comfortable. Rod bearings done.
I had one, and glad I had the opportunity. 0-60 was 4-1s but it was the sub 10 second 0-100 that really impressed!
People forgot how to enjoy driving, this car is pure pleasure. Imagine coming back home from work and you just put your foot down and the V10 symphony starts
Mike, If you have sponsors helping you get it done, then great! But, if it was you yourself making the purchase and taking this on, I would have said perhaps it could turn out to be an expensive monster to upkeep.
This. Ticking time bomb cars, riddled with problems. Very easily mechanically totalled.
I've bought one recently. Fuel wise, yes they're crippling. And yes, they do love to throw issues at you, most of which aren't too expensive to fix in cost of parts, but if you don't have the ability to diagnose complex problems and replace the parts yourself, it would be very expensive.
I owned an E60 M5 a few years ago. As you say in the video, there are many reasons NOT to own an S85 engine with SMG box. But here I am, watching V10 videos and pondering buying another. They are outstanding value compared with the competition. Go for it!
Yes!
Just do it. I want to see this! I'd love an E60 M5 myself.
Great video and the timing couldn't have been more perfect! I'm currently debating whether to pull the trigger on an E60 M5 or E63 M6.
Go for it. It will be interesting to find out what you do with it and the running costs. Especially if the engine gets iffy!!!
I love this model, cracking car in and out. 👌🏽❤️
Magnificent. This truly was the best era of modern cars. V10s were all the rage back then
Best job ever mate!
I would like to see what happens with a M6 project - A year in the life type stuff, the rebuild of course and last but not least the cost of MOT etc. Naturally you will have to do an epic road trip up north as part of it!
The M6 is a beast! I got to drive one once and the engine note made me shake in the knees. Do it!
I really love the shape of this bm, especially the lights and rims. The v10 is also surprising, one might have expected a v8
I'd say... yes IF you're going to see how fast you can fire it down the autobahn (with a little tuning work as well)
I can assure you that Germany, as part of the European Union, will be facing very strict emission limits (nitrogen and CO2) in the very near future and that drastic speed limits will soon apply on all it’s highways. I would seriously consider that when buying this car. We in Holland (as adjacent country), are already facing these unfortunate facts.
Yes, please go the V10 route! I would like to see that!
got an E64 with a 6 speed. This car has gotten so much better with time. every time i drive it i love it more and more
I have a 2010 M5 with 14K, yes I don't drive it much but when I do I just go to the canyons for spirited driving. It is a blast of a car. They loosen the bearing tolerances on the mains so the bearing issue is not as bad in the later versions. 2010 was the last year.
Definitely do it!
Great soundtrack to the V10!
Do It!! That exact spec is the most gorgeous spec to me
One of the prettiest cars BMW ever made. And in that colour it looks stunning. Go on you know you want to.
I have a 635d. It's a fantastic daily..
As a big BMW guy (and a life long BMW owner) I'd love to see this on the channel!
If you rebuild the engine fix the bearings and the other few wearables and known issues it should be fine for a quite a long time...especially if you look after it properly and change the engine oil much more frequently...like every 15000km max.
Sure it might not be the prettiest BMW out there but it is an interesting looking car and you will never mistake it for something else. Totally unique looking vehicle...and that's always something to admire....well okay maybe not if's a Fiat Multipla...but that's another story from (most likely) another planet.
So yeah. Go for it! I for one would love to see it! And would love to see a proper restoration video especially of that magnificent engine!
15k? Try 5k haha
One of the most astounding cars ever to exist!
Love all the fall leaves caught in the front grill
Always loved these. Maybe worth doing some work to make it even more appealing, still pretty awesome car for relatively low cost.
These things are fading out fast
Life's short. If its what you want & makes you happy then it's worth it. I made the same decision swapping from a diesel volvo daily to an audi s4 with the 3l sc v6 and although the mpg is half and my wallet stings after long trips - having something that I go out to in the morning and actually want to get in and drive makes it all worth it.
Ah one of my dream cars, Chris Bangle's styling that fails to age even a bit as years progress
4:50 amazing editing!
Dude! Please do this car. It’s one of my dream cars. And in the us it’s still at a reasonable price, I hoping to buy one before my 30th birthday
Yes. Please do the M5 or M6. It would be nice for someone to go over the pitfalls of the engine and how to properly address them. And see if it’s cost effective as well. Thanks
That SMG box sounds like a Wilson pre-selecter bus gear box! Go down a gear as you approach a corner and up again on the way out and it will sort itself out, eventually!
Ohh I feel like crying when someone mentions an m6 and “trips up to Scotland” in the same sentence there is a reason it has such a massive fuel tank!
Do it!! Very cool car. I would love to see what needs to be done to make it reliable.
awesome video
I'm stateside and have been debating between the M6 or a 645/650 coupe. And this video just made that decision even more harder lol. I work remote so it would be more of a weekend or intown go getter so to speak and once a month where I have to drive from Kentucky to Nashville, TN for company meetings. My income not a problem. However the problem is finding one that has been reasonably kept up.
I'd spend a bit more than 10k on one, that really would be bottom end. Mine has never let me down in 2 years and I'm never going to sell it. Words cannot describe the attachment I have developed for this car. Ive had m2's and various other 4-600bhp cars and this by FAR is the best car I have ever owned. The engine noise is beyond addictive. The SMG gearbox is lovely to drive with in manual. Spend 1.5k on rod bearings if it hasn't already be done, happy days.
Oh fuel is bad tho lol
The thought of taking this on as a project car really stresses me out! Lol. It's got massive potential, but there's going to be some bad headaches along the way (unless you've already got it planned?) I'd try the Audi V10 out as well and see if it they're more viable and could be tuned up or electronically boosted too
It absolutely should be the next project car. Very nice.
Love the RBR cap. :)
Best engine sound ever!
It’s “the giant duvet on the back” that puts me off go for the m5 if you must
I think it would be awesome to see
I believe a manual swap is not too tricky to do on these. At least in the E46 M3, the gearbox was the same, and you just have to replace the SMG shifting bits with a manual gear lever. The difficult bit might be sourcing the appropriate pedal box, center console and gear lever, which would be US parts.
New Sub! I own a e64 with 55k miles. Would love to see you do a series on my dream car!!
You will have to replace the actuators, the rod bearings, etc etc etc, my dream car though tbh
Yes please restore one of those cars. I am sick of seeing different CZcamsrs and people ruining them and scrapping them. Calling them basketcases and throwing them away not understanding that the cars are 10+ years old and are now requiring care. Those are wonderful, amazing cars and I would love to see one finally getting the care it deserves.
i remember choosing this car in need for speed hot pursuit over ten years ago now. oh how time flies.
Yeap , I’m a V10 fanatic too !
I have an M5 V10 and I love it !
Legend! Provided you don't mind fuel and upkeep. The guys at Evolve might have a gearbox tune for that?
By all means do it! But watch out for the rod bearings as you mentioned yourself, and you HAVE to manual convert it though!
I think this would be a cool project car for the channel.
Love the V10.. but to me it more something you going to take to the track so it's been run at the limit then you can really appreciate that beautiful sound track... For a daily drive maybe rather a V8 Jag....or a Lexus like the ISF or GSF
That is one stunning car!!!!!
You'll need Richard's new shop to keep it running!
I looooovvvee that V10 soundtrack..!!!
M6's are slept on since they are maintenance monsters but would love to see you team up with ebay motor get it sorted + get some awesome v10 content out of it.
I love this M6 I grew up kinda around this era and this one in blue is just dream spec for me. I don't even like Bmw that much but this has to be one the best BMWs they made . Yes there would be problems but i low-key wanna own one in the future to see what it's like. So yes buy it
I really want to like this car and have been very conflicted. Go ahead, make me love it
I had the 650i version of this car and adored it. Had it chipped as well. V8 and normal auto transmission was fantastic. Had for 5 years and not a single issue. Swapped it for a CLS63 AMG and regretted it. After 2 years went back to the newer 650i
Why would you chip an n/a V8? The gains are so small..
@@jochem1986 agreed but got it done anyway 🤷♂️
That would be a yes from me - I love it :)
Sounds like you've already talked yourself into it! :D
Normally I’d say meh, but that front bumper upgrade (Auto Vogue?) totally transforms it 💯
Totally! It would be a great project car
Merry Christmas
Ive got tge 635d (yes i know, boring diesel) but if you ignore the sound of it, its really punchy and great fun! and I can go way longer without filling up, though the M6 is my dream car right now
It's solid buy and the big maintenance items (including the bearing replacement) are not too expensive. I would not however daily it. It's a weekend car.
Used to hate the look of these until a few years ago then I suddenly switched and think they're gorgeous
You already can see its a M6(In the thumbnail). I would buy it,if I had cash😂🤣
Get it! Interlagos Blue is so nice 😊
Absolutely take it on!
Get those rod bearings inspected and go for it mate. This thing is awesome.
Have you tried out the different settings for how fast it shifts gear? In the fastest settings it shifts gear at just 60 ms.
I dailied my E60 M5 for about 5 years. Still running strong at 164k miles. Its on weekend and roadtrip duty nowadays.
I have 150,000 on mine with original rod bearing. Very reliable. Key is maintenance and warm up the engine before going mental
This video is among the best you've made! Production value, camera work, soundtrack, the car... and Mike is as adorable as ever! Love this video!
And YES! You should go for it!
Not a fan of BMW as a brand during that era, but their 2 V10 cars are amazing in terms of engineering.
Mike, you are still young. Patience will put you in a V10 soon enough, and it will be a special V10 from a unique manufacturer in a sports-built chassis from a reputable company. The BMW is just you not being willing to wait.
Yes please have it as the next project
I'm currently looking at the v10 m5 and am on the fence. It would be awesome to have a full break down of what is involved with all of its services items etc....
Own a 2006 m6 for 5 years. My two cents are, buy a very low mile one with a confident service record. Do rod bearings immediately if not done. This is the way I visualize, is it bang for the buck or no? well buy one for 28-32k which is enough to buy a very well taken care of, drop 4 grand on preventive maintenance rod bearings, spark plugs all oils and filters you will be spending around 33k the cost of a brand new civic. I think its bang for the buck to have a v10 m with 500 hp for that price. Make sure SMG is well taken care of with your trusted mechanic. My M6 has been bullet proof on reliability after i did the first service mentioned.
Do it Mike... and while you're at it organize some sponsorship for the rest of us.
One of my childhood dream cars, along with the Mercedes CLS W219 and the Ferrari F430.
Everyone that ever passed on owning this car missed out. I don’t think it’ll ever blow up but if it does idgaf at least I didn’t pass on it because I read abt some guy somewhere that spun a rod bearing. I’m not doing my bearings but if I did it’d be abt the cost of a set of tires so the pearl clutching hysteria that surround this car has been fun to watch. So yes, the answer is always yes on this car. It’s just gotta be a stick.
idgaf is the right mindset to have when enjoying any car. Otherwise one can't really afford to enjoy it. But then again these people have no problem paying sticker for a modern "M" car with a turded up series engine and a vacuum cleaner exhaust note that looses more value the moment it's driven off the lot than the entire price of admission for this car.
Yeah! It sounds cool
Yessss 😍❤️ that's my dream car... The E60 M5 actually