The ENTP Feelogician - Why ENTPs Are Both Thinking & Feeling
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- This is why ENTPs struggle to tell if they're Thinking or Feeling types. Learn about how ENTPs make decisions based on fairness, competition and equal opportunity, and how you can understand the ENTPs mix of caring and logic.
00:00: The ENTP Feelogician
03:00: Everyone is selfish - so everyone needs rules
05:00: How ENTPs Level The Playing Field
06:20 ENTPs Want Everyone To Have Opportunities
07:23: ENTPs Need Consequences
09:18: ENTP Hate Being Treated Unfairly
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Heard ENTPs are also the most introvert of the extroverts. so in a sense they are true chameleons.
I’m an entp and I must say i like both
I deadass used the word social chameleon yesterday with my best friend
A explorer needs to be a hunter, a warrior, a gatherer, a medicine man, a diplomat, a trader, inventor....he is mostly alone or amongst beasts, or unknown or hostile people. Needs to be a JAck of all trades, and above all needs to be fast thinker,
@@vascoespañol but what is a need but a greedy, and unruly want?
INTJ here married to an ENTP and this statement is true, he's such an introvert
ENTPs start to use feelings into their logic as they mature because we start to understand that regardless of how we usually "feel less" than others, some types do feel a lot and we have to deal with it like it or not. Feelings are less abstract than they seem to, since they're usually results of actions. There's patterns into human behaviour regarding "action - feeling" because feelings are mostly chemistry, not something out of this world. When we feel, we feel because one of our 5 senses got stimulated in a certain way - be it a kiss, a hug, a caring message, a joke, a punch. Feelings are reactive to the actions we perceive and imagine, and once you understand that it becomes easier to deal with anyone 'cuz we can think beforehand how our actions will impact the others.
Sorry for any typo or mistakes, EN's not my 1st language
Hey, as female 46y ENTP this is not the way it works for me in mature. I think I am more responsible for my feelings and should listen to them, I dont want them to be the result only from external action.
@@michaelakunz7679 I can remember thinking about things like this when I was younger, but now I agree with you. We are not just logic bots who feel less, and agree there is much growth and value in the dreaded “ getting in touch with feelings”
absolutely correct. and....more importantly you can bet money the ENTP is watching the facial reactions and intonations of people that engage in hugs, kisses, insults, tensions. we are always cataloging new data about actions and reactions. and then testing those to work out a framework of how people feel.
As an entp I can say that we know people have different views, feelings.
I have a lot of empathy but struggle with sympathy.
If ones ever doubted if they were ENTPs or not, I highly recommend this clip. No one ever talked about the ‘fairness-crazy thing’ I’ve had my entire life. And now, I have no doubt in myself ever again.
I thought I was an istp like my dad but now I’m convinced that I’m an entp
So true, we are antiheros with the Shattered Heart on the right side, Like Tony Stark
absolutely
got into lotsa sticky and somewhat dangerous situations because of that overly active fairness factor.
Me ( ENTP): Dislikes rules and doesn't agree
Also me: Loves law and order and hates privileges
This!!
Me fr
ah yes, josstice.
Yep, I enjoy some chaos around me, and I'm not afraid to take some chances, but I don't like it when chaos gets in the way of getting things done or starts hurting people. So I like rules that keep things efficient and fair, but I break rules when I think its better to do so, and I hate rules that have no good purpose but to preserve the status quo.
I wouldn't disagree if the rules were more efficient but they're riddled with critical flaws and contradictions. Which rules am I talking about? All of them.
I think the reason why a lot of ENTPs find it hard to find their MBTI type is because your Fe or your Ti might be dominant. I went around thinking I was an INTP because of my Ti dominance but never really relate to the challenges INTP face while ENTP really fitted me. Still not sure I’m an ENTP, first day trying to figure it, and after watching videos and reading a bit I think it might be me
Your dominant function is always unconscious, you don't need to think, it just happens.
Your secondary and tertiary function are the conscious ones.
Type yourself by your inferior function, what you struggle with the most.
@@JuanJAnimes thank you this was really helpful
Yeah, I feel like an entp but Im an intp from a 3rd person
This is me
As an entp I can say that out introversion and feeling is strong but not stronger than our thinking and extroversion
I'm an ENTP and this is super accurate. We're such an interesting type. I barely understand myself half the time.
I 100% agree on the justice thing. I went from thinking I had no morals to an outspoken critic of injustice. I believe deeply in consequences and hate when people cheat others or conn them. I literally threw a justice tantrum yesterday against a friend 😅
Hey fellow entp 😉
Same here, but I will also do some questionable things and cheat a little if it will lead to a better outcome or even the playing field in a more fair way. Don’t know if you can relate to that part or not.
Best video I've seen on ENTPs in a little while. Nice one. A+
C- no cap
This is one of the best, most relatable ENTP videos I’ve seen. As someone who frequently questions his type, this is much appreciated.
The ENTP want the world to be like Disboard from No Game No Life, basically
And I believe Sora is an ENTP 🥂
@@60sbabydoll777 everybody agrees on that
Yes, please! hahaha (I'm ENTP)
@@60sbabydoll777 well...yes bro..Sora is, indeed, an ENTP :)
@@vivekchauhan4053 ReALLY
this is so true, and is annoying that some people mistake it for jealousy, what they dont get when someone is acting unfairly and i speak up is that i dont want to get away with doing unfair things too, i want the person who is being unfair to stop being unfair ! thats it, it also happens when someone in a group gets more of something than the rest and i point it out, they always think i want more of that too because im jealous, when in reality i dont want more myself, i want the other person to get less just like the rest of us, otherwise its unfair (and then they say im selfish which idk, a debatable topic honestly, maybe fairness has some selfish nature even when it looks like it doesn't)
uP
This is so relatable. Just now realized most people don’t care about fairness like I do.
I don't know many ENTPs..but the few I know are very successful.. always on the move, looking for opportunities and ways to improve and become better versions of themselves... they are like magnets to changes..they just can't stay hand in pocket.
Anyway..if I remember correctly,are INFJs also something in between thinkers & feelers?
You probably think it estp or enfp, entp are usually super hesitant almost to the point of mental health problems, cause they can't decide whether they want to go to different continent or do what they like
Best example is Rick from rick and Morty who has ADHD alcoholism and constantly tries to escape himself in alternative realities
@@imakro69 that’s exactly how I am many people think we are just fine super smart and has 0 mental health problems and tbh I have so many mental problems, really scared of choosing things I do think a lot and I’m good at studying too but my mental health is not that well at all
@@mom69yearsago85 I think a lot of entps are ADHD, anxious, and depressive, and being in constant looking out for info makes you dunno what you really like and want, and a lot of people have a problem of being between something simple they like, something super ambitious they feel they are ought to want, and actually just standing still cause they're afraid to not live up to their own potential expectation, choosing to self fail from the get go to get rid of this uncertainty
@@imakro69 yup you guessed correctly, and we don't really wanna talk about the anger issues too
ENTP here.
Thank you Erik for another great insight about us ! You've made a lot of good points about us in the past, but this one really hits home to me, as it's been bugging me for years.
Being ENTP I do feel I have a strong sense of justice. I always try to implement it in my "leadership" as I'm considered "leader" of a group of friends and coworkers. I'm not a leader by any hierarchy, I'm just de facto, a decision maker and referee for the team we are.
And even though I ... kind of agreed to take this role, or carved it for myself throughout the years, I can't really tell, I like people to rely on me and they oblige. Even though this happened, even though I have this position, my group does not really see me as the Justice guy. This would go to the ENFJ or even the ISFJ of the group. And I'm seen instead as some kind of "public speaker" for the group.
And I don't like not being given credit for what I've been trying to achieve all this time. Mainly inferior Fe, people pleasing, "planning" (lol) events at locations convenient for everyone, trying to settle disagreements as a third party etc ...
But I just get credit for annoyingly intellectual conversations, crying when I get too drunk and being a general clown. And I'm kind of bummed out about it.
So it's good to hear you recognize this trait in us, as I think it's being cruelly overlooked. As are many good and interesting traits of other types as well : such as INFPs being taken for crybabies when they are in fact some of the greatest badasses I've witnessed ; or ENTJs being bullies and bossy, when they really thinking for the greater good and experience of everyone involved in a project.
Cheers, from France !
Hey fellow entp
je te comprends parfaitement 🤝
that's interesting
i always doubt my ENTP diagnosis(yes, i put the word right)
my theory says that as i grew up in a Ne-Fe loop, i always had "feelings"
after i finally developed my Ti, later than it's supposed to, because introversion in itself is a thing that must be developed for the introverted functions to work(goes the same to the extroverted functions to introverted people) i figured that i was only opening up to people because i didn't have enough emotional attention when i was a child and i wasn't really feeling that
it's crazy cause despite we having these 16 ways of defining people there are billions of variables that may or may not change things
our feeling isn't a feeling at all, it's more than a developed system of principles that everyone should follow acording to our own logic, but we also don't tend to invade others cause well, not our problem, we tend to point others(usually in a blunt way) to the direction we think it's right. but we also change it constantly cause those things are too fluid and we are always learning new things
i still sometimes think i might be an INFJ tho, i got a somewhat good grasp of Ni, despite randomness being my most used thing, a Ne characteristic
every day i learn something new about MBTI and i always get more curious and confused lol
Hey Eric i'm interestred about what u talked above, by the way my type is entp too.
This is SO. FREAKING. ACCURATE. I've never read abythubf about this aspect of ENTPs, but I completely relate to all of this and I've been this way since childhood. This concept kind of ties into one theory about ENTPs and bullying and/or fitting in with the "popular" kids--because I always seem to be the odd man out in some environments (like school, work, or sports teams) when there is an unofficial "leader" or a bogus hierarchy in which I generally do not honor🤗 With this being said, there's no one that can charm the pants off of people in most day-to-day interactions and in social settings, and I usually (and eventually) convince haters that I'm...... the shit.
Thank you for simplifying how I've made all of my life decisions - "what will drive transformation." I had no idea. This makes absolute sense now. Great work!
Yes this is exactly how I feel. Thank you erik.
ENTP 8w7
Finally someone explaining something about us correctly this is a rare thing to witness
I think I'm pretty good my principles, I've been called a enfp so often,and always come up as enfp or infj.. I need fairness in society, for people I don't even know..
My goodness.. For the life of me I could never figure out the whole F/T conundrum (or the E/I), so I was convinced I was just a messed up INFP. THANK YOU! Where's my lovely ENTP tribe at?? 😍
Yoo same infp turned entp reporting in haha - read up on the cognitive functions and yep entp is a way better fit
@@ftwgunnerpwns ahhh, bring it in mate!! The struggle is real! 🤗😂
I really think I might be an ENTP sometimes, but I believe in mercy over justice. But I like that everyone needs sometime of law and rules to obey.
yeah people need to have rules so you have rules to break
This is great! I often question whether I am an ENTP or not, growing up believing that my purpose in this world is to lend my voice to the voiceless; it always seemed so feel-y to me. But it makes sense! Rationally, I believe in fairness! And I strive to do all I can to ensure that. Thanks for the video! Always love some good validation 😂
Oh and believing in systems thing when every ENTP stereotype screams that we are anti-establishments LOL. I think sometimes we think way too much for way too long for it to be condensed into a workable catchphrase hahahaha
kind of like how infj are both but switched around? like we are rational feelers?
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The thing about me wanting to make the world a better place… it really sucks out the life and energy out of me. It’s exhausting
Wow, spot on. Unfairness is a HUGE thing for me, I do throw fairness tantrums ha
This made me think of how in highschool I had this teacher who liked me a lot. It was almost creepy and everyone would tell me that it was obvs that she favoured me above all other students. I had 1 conversation with her in the begining of highschool and she thought I was smart and all that. She would cut me slack and give me advantages. This made me a but irritated bc I was not very invested in the class and I don't think teachers should favour students. I was so fed up with that so when we had a presentation about LGBTQ rights I threw in some opinions she did not like on purpose and I ended up offending her big time( This was the goal lol) and after that she kind of started to ignore me and my grade dropped from an A to a C in just one week.
I can relate to this. I couldn't understand the accusation of us being selfish when we can't even stand getting preferential treatment.
if by tantrum you mean slowly and effectively cutting them down as people...then yes. and when we flip the table, we do it on w/e terms are necessary. maybe we'll literally flip a table, maybe we'll wait five years to get back at whoever or whatever...but trust me....that table is getting flipped.
Not quite. Remember we have Fe and Ne. We notice injustice, but also take notes. We can manipulate the system to prove a point, but we can also manipulate the system. It works more complicated than outlined over here. I understand that as an observer, there seems to be no point, but there is always careful intention. Ti/Fe makes judgements whether to intervene, or to let go. We rarely interfere, only if Ti knows about a wrong statement/claim, or if Ti is awarded authority. Ne makes quick judgements about the situation, and outsources where necessary
Entp here, you are a genius
At last saomeone who Knows what he is talking about, We can act, and play, but we have a moral rudder and feelings. Lawyers? I think we evolved from the explorer arquetype adapted to survive between foreigners or even enemies, , as diplomats or spies, but working for our people. We arent squimish, we are fantastic actors, we do feel, actually the condition we are associated with (Adhd) are very emotional, but selectively and we just dont show it. We cover it with sarcasm
I am the Queen of the "Injustice Tantrum!"
This is the most accurate account of ENTPs that I have come across. It's usually only ''they like to argue for sport'' when it's really that we see a serpentine road where everyone else sees an Autobahn. If you saw what we see you would also be pointing it out! So many flaws, angles and nuances everywhere. Not my fault you can't see it.
Also, cannot count the times people have turned to me and asked: Why do you care? I don't need you to fight my battle, it's got nothing to do with you. Me answering: Oh yes it does. (And just be smart and let me deal with this or you'll be steamrolled.)
With that reasoning you could say that we should base justice only on what the victim feels should happen to the perpetrator. The end of civilisation and rule of law. (Big words... hahaha)
THIS IS TJE REASON IM ALWAYS DOUBTING IF IM AN ENTP BECAUSE WE ARE LITERALLY LIVING CONTRADICTIONS LMAO
this is exactly what an ENTP is actually like (as an ENTP myself) we're seeing so many inadequacies that fundamentally shouldn't be this way and need fixing as we have a greater goal than just having a system that's 'efficient' or harmonizes people, similar to the INTJ as you mentioned.
This is why I do really believe that ENTP and INTJ are the most feeling thinkers because we see what's wrong with people AND systems, so we can spot when someone isn't getting the opportunities they deserve or that the person thinks they're too good for following what's been set out in front of them. they both can be quite reflective on these matters more than most types.
I'm an ENTP with a pretty strong Fe too and when you have that along with the auxiliary Ti we become very wrapped up with how things can improve for everyone around us and this usually stems from lots of frustration as just because we understand what someone else is saying doesn't mean we actually agree with them, so people sadly miss or can't be bothered to listen about an important point we have made. (INTJs tell me if you relate to what I'm saying too)
your 4 types of an infp video sent me here and realize im more like an entp than an infp 🤯
definitely an np subtyper!
INTJ here married to an ENTP and this video was very helpful. I'd ask him what are you thinking and he'd say nothing I get confused because I'm thinking he's a thinker but here say he's feeling I'm like 🤔🧐. Yes, everything you said in this video I can see in my ENTP.
Cheers 🌹
As an ENTP I can confirm that everything that's said in this video is 100% true.
Indeed, I’m very related to this!😁
equality in opportunity not outcome..thats the best
I guess that's why they do well with INFJs :)
As a kid, I my fair share of fairness tantrums for myself. As an adult, I learned to do them for others who I think are getting the shaft as I can usually take care of myself. I can say that the person who was trying to get the upper hand usually doesn't care for that so much. :) So I get the satisfaction of upending the order of things while still feeling morally justified. :P always looking for the win-win
As an entp i feel this is true only you're wrong about tamper tantrums. If injustice persists what I want most is to completely bring down whoever is causing it and expose them for the fraud they are.
Yeah I was still doubting my result as an ENFJ or ENTP. But ever since my Ne heating up among the ENFJ results (which that supposed to be FeNiSeTi in stack), the ENTP result always following the ENFJ and guess what? My last result shown as looped ENTP 6w7 (with Ne & Fe burning up).
But the time's ticking, and I felt that I would be me more confident with my Ne and Ti functions and wont left the Fe function. Thanks to this vid, yes! I could learn more about myself even better. I would agree that the ENTP is the one of the "Feelogicians" Thanks Erik!
Oh oh Also I saw so many empathetic ENTP out there without leaving their NeTi functions! Cheers~
pardon for my bad english :)
🤯 Very Good explanation and well explained!
This nitty gritty functionality makes no difference in the end if you end up alone at 70 and die alone due to disconnect, heartbreak & bad life choices. Stop complicating things- create better routine, food, sleep, and avoiding stress.
Have totally done those things to prove a systematic point, that being the only time.
So true. Just commented on animal justice under a video where they put a macaw into the shower and pretend it's the rainforest.
That's when my philosophy and biology degree kicks in.
it's not so much how can i level the playing field... its more how can i make it better with what we have for many if not all.
Starting to work in a AI + BLockchain company aiming to improve processes, expand fairness in public licitations, voting sistems and eliminate fraud, untill now been fighting money laundering and terrorist financing in offshore centers. for 21 years. I am an ENTP,
As an ENTP I have so many life examples of the things you just said
Once I was drunk and a guy wanted to kiss me, I refused many times until he proposed a game, if he won he would get a kiss. We played, he won and I had no problem in giving him the prize, but after that he whispered “I wanted that so bad, I’d have cheated to win anyway” no words to describe how angry I got.
When I tell my friends this story they say “no wonder you are mad, he took advantage of you being drunk” but that’s not the point! they struggle to understand I’m mad about the game being unfair from the beginning
About finding weaknesses in the system, it’s pretty small but I wanted to proof it was possible to finish this online semester at one of the best Universities in Brazil without watching any classes only by cheating on exams and I just passed 7 of the 8 subjects doing that
(The 8th teacher requested an oral exam in an individual video call to be approved on the subject so I had to study for this one)
The point is quite proven but deep down I know I’ll regret it one day so I’ll study everything i missed during vacations
Ew.. I think the biggest problem here is that he didn’t take no for an answer an offered a game... you literally got manipulated. That urks me more as an ENTP more than anything... feeling like someone just used me for their own personal gain
ENTP’s start to feel then remember their trauma and act accordingly. Tell me I’m wrong!
I might sound like a brat but I relate so much to disliking privileged. My parents loved using the 'Because I'm the mother/father, that's why you should always listen to me" or that they're the only ones allowed to do certain things merely because they're the parents. And I have always hated that reasoning. When my little sibling was born, albeit late, I got my petty revenge by using the "I'm not the parent, I have no authority to do such things" Kinda excuses which got me into so so much trouble, but seeing them eat their words was so worth it, and now they rarely use the bull of an excuse. Although now I apparently have no respect because I rebutted their words, my bad ig?
9:17 You Should Make A Video And Some Shorts About What Makes Each Type "Go Crazy”
and you love it...!
So, by your theory, wanting fairness, in any given situation makes an ENTP a "monster?" Who, among us, doesn't want a level playing field?
People who are at high levels of the playing field who don’t want to be lowered and know they wouldn't succeed if the field was level.
Fitness, coordination, strength, and conditioning improve more with training on non-leveled fields.
It’s also dangerous and increases the magnitude and amount, occurrence, and potential for injury, mostly for less naturally gifted and developed or trained people.
Wow this is a really interesting video
As an ENTP yes this is true but I already knew that because INTJ is ENTP’s shadow
Finding these unfairness and realizing that fixing them isn’t completely up to you might cause you to be a cheater and part of what you despise, but under your rules and what you value the most. Still wrong folks, don’t do it
Change innovation opportunity trueeeeeee
Yeah, we have a problem with authority, lol
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In Games, I Use The Rules Against You. The More The Better. In Reality The Rules Are Against Me So I’m Against Them. The Fewer The Better.
well explained👌
Thank you
I'm fascinated with Andrew Yang's Universal basic income.. what freedoms it would allow.. I wonder how Americans lives will change what choices people would make.. I think I am a entp or an i n t p I have to take the test again
Hey Erik!
Hi Eric! This might be slightly off topic, but i’m a little confused with how Fe and Fi cognitive type works in terms of raw feelings, not when making decision. For example is in this scenario:
A foreigner has just become a permanent resident in a country that this person has never visited before. One day, this person does something that turns out unacceptable in that country, and this person doesn’t know that this action is wrong. Then a stranger shouted at this person, pointing at this person’s mistake and starts raging. Like MAD angry.
How will that foreigner feel as an Fi or Fe? By that i mean the instant reaction or emotion towards the raging stranger. Will Fi and Fe process this feeling differently? Especially on tertiary or inferior Fe or Fi.
Hope you get my point, i’m trying my best in my english since it’s not my first language. Thank you!!
INTERESTING, yes . ENTP
When you call entps monster… 🤣🤣
I don't see why xntj and xstj wouldn't want the same. Wouldn't everyone usually want a somewhat fair or ethical rules? Some may want it more than others or some may put conditions but in the end everyone would want the same.
Effectiveness comes first to thinking dominants and to some extent the idea of survival of the fittest!
amazing
Ah if we only had some kind of si we would be gods
This is me
Can an ENTP be typed as a genius level INTP? My INTP bf acts a lot like his type but he sometimes acts like an ENTP especially on the fairness issue. Are INTPs about fairness too? Also he is extremely introverted... he’s probably typed correctly but do INTP’s get really caught up on fairness too? Just curious on your thoughts?
I think so, they might be less outspoken to talk about it publicly or take responsibility for others than ENTP.
I'm an INTP and yeah I'd agree
Of course ENTPs can be mistyped as INTPs.. but ENTPs are like the Ne version of INFJ, potentially they can be mistyped as INFJ if someone have a hard grasp on the difference between Ni and Ne 😬. Never underestimate the 3rd function. Some can use their 3rd function way more than their 2nd.
@@RainbowRoadCrashTest That’s very insightful! Thank you for your input! It was very helpful. And the journey continues for me!
@@jennahudson3420 Yes look at Conan O'Brien for example. Who alot of people seem to think he is an ENTP. But he does to seem to display more Fe than Ti.
Yep
i agree
What are you????
This is sooo me, lol
L take. I dont care if the system is fair or not. - ENTP
I want to hear things entps hate
Lining up for festival toilets especially when you’ve got to shit
Lol injustice tantrum