Do old PCs & CRT monitors use a lot of power?
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2016
- Answering a comment I sometimes get saying that old computers and CRT monitors must use a lot of power. Do they really, compared to a modern Energy Star-rated PC and LCD monitor?
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So essentially: The "Basic Desktop setup" over the years minimum power consumption (idle) has largely stayed in the same range (
And to add to this, that NEC V30 is probably nearly 100% utilized while playing that PCM sample, while the C2D isn't even breaking a sweat.
The consumption on the modern computer would have been higher if you ran a somewhat modern 3D game.
artificial workloads will do the trick.
@mharris1270 wow.. gaming laptops eat 150w... no wonder why they melt & die so fast....
I love this channel.
yup
+Poebat this channel is cool.
me too
Ya'll and this channel should get a room together.
Glad to see this debunked. Once in a while I'll come across a comment from someone who makes vintage PC users out to be horrible people because of all the power they're "wasting". Yet you don't see classic car enthusiasts getting that kind of hate! (And they don't deserve it either.)
Certainly there are older cars which are great on gas (many that are better than today's fuel misers,in-fact), but classic car enthusiasts usually deal with full-size cars with V8 engines, and that is what I was referring to.
Although I've never made a video dedicated to the subject, I have done the measurements and answered people making this very comment in the same way. Even though one could get more for the energy used out of a newer computer, that's not always relevant: if you don't need the extra computing power, it doesn't matter at all!
Besides, when one pays for the electricity used, it's their business alone what they used it for!
+uxwbill
I got a mini laptop for writing and netflix. It is seriously not using allot of power. It also is pretty weak but who cares. It works fine for it supposed job. Writing documents and watching netflix from time to time.
And yeah it won't make the powerbill go crazy on you either.
It might just safe me one or two standard 60 watts light bulbs a year.
I kind of already knew just because of something as simple as the watt rating of power supplies in old computers, but this is a satisfying video to watch all the same, adding some real usage measurements. Really enjoyed it, also bc of the music choice!
I never get tired of watching your videos - always fascinating
There ya go, it's all just marketing.
Marketing isn't quite the right word, I'd say.
Okay, I'll call it bullshit instead.
lmull3 rekt
I don’t know if i’m alone here, but when i have free time i just binge watch random VWestlife videos xD Also, i love this smoothness of camcorders footage
Well done, I'm sharing this with my friends
I think the Tandy's power consumption is quite impressive considering the mechanical hard drive, bigass CRT monitor, and likely primitive power supply that it has, as compared to the Core 2 which had an LCD monitor and an SSD. I bet the power consumption of the Tandy would be even lower with a CF card in place of the hard drive.
In a viewpoint where you're just putting load on each machine and seeing how much power each one uses, they would be about the same.
In a viewpoint where you're looking at power to performance, a newer pc would use much less power to do the exact same thing that an old computer would.
Not necessarily. You could use a word processor or spreadsheet on either of these two computers and they would use almost exactly the same power, as I showed. No one needs a Core i7 to write a school paper or calculate their taxes. People were doing that work just fine on computers 30 years ago.
+Raziel Znot You've completely missed the point of the video at this point..... while you are right he's addressing the people who claim he MUST have a higher power bill by running multiple old computers vs multiple newer ones. Of course they're more EFFICIENT but this is about CONSUMPTION.
+vwestlife You can word process and spreadsheet on a 5 watt ARM based smartphone.
Sean Metivier But you can't play Jazz Jackrabbit on it.
fys DOSbox has been on android for quite a while.
Great test! I would love to see that Compaq compared with a more complex operating system though (one with a GUI, maybe Windows 98 or XP on an old machine and monitor from the early 2000s). But that phantom power consumption though... That's the real energy killer
Great vid. You should do a series showing how much power various electronics pull, and include a cost per hour to run the device. It would be great if you can show how much power a battery backup consumes. I once read battery backups are very costly to run. Doing a comparison on a couple of different battery backups would be very interesting to watch and see the results.
Very interesting video, thank you for that. TIL about power use.
good point, and not to mention unless you unplug or have a manual switch to shut it off after powering off a modern pc it'd make up for the relatively trival difference of a low end pc vs a new pc power use.
Your clear head and scientific approach is excellent. You should be promoted to chief of science for the planet.
Modern PCs actually use MORE power than old ones under load because of the demands of modern GPUs. In the 1990s a PSU over 500W was almost unheard of, and many of the ones in standard consumer machines were 200W or less. Nowadays you have 750, 850, and 1000W PSUs for people with more money than sense and the multi-kilowatt jobs people make for cryptocurrency mining, which is the most obscene waste of energy the human race has ever conceived and should be illegal.
Thank you for clearing that up, though I am not surprised. A look on the back of a 17" LCD and a 17" CRT will reveal that both draw 1.5 amps.
Do it again with an LED backlit monitor.
+Techtron23 Most people still use LCD monitors... :P
+armanelgtron eeehhmm.. A LED monitor is an LCD. LED is just the type of backlight, the panel itself is still the same.
deWaardt I forgot I had to be extra specific here on youtube...
There are OLED monitors but they're very expensive.
Ode to the CRT may you never be forgotten.
+Liam Powell If you are referring to a television set no i really didn't mind the whining noise at all. But the color bars and tone noise was annoying.
I wonder how many AMD bashers will be talking shit?
The C2D will pull much more power running a CZcams video at 1080p or running a 3D graphics benchmark. Whenever I refer to old power hogs, its usually people who have the idea to use an old Netburst dinosaur as a "server" running 24/7. Great strides were made in idle power consumption (file serving in particular doesn't use much CPU) that buying a cheap Atom board for the role would more than pay for itself in reduced power usage.
Wow, finally some action for that "background Tandy of any computer video"!
I find it amazing that XT class PC from 80s can decently play digital music!
p.s. My downclocked Q6600 based rig goes 120W while doing nothing :(
1:12 'Registered To Steve Jobs'
This channel is legendary
To be fair, I used to have a 19" iiyama Vision Master monitor, which I loved dearly, but its power consumption was a nominal 140 Watts. That's almost double of what my 56" TV uses. It's standby power was a staggering 10 watts. It's perhaps the nineties PCs that come of worst in a power vs performance comparison.
And plasma TVs can use over 400 watts... definitely not energy efficient!
The Tandy 1000 was our first home pc! We pretty much just made designs in some printing software and played jeopardy lol.
I think this was something of a concern even back in the 80s and 90s, some people thinking that computers used a lot of power. 'Less power than a light bulb' I believe was one statement in a tutorial program that came with our 8088 computer at the time. Though didn't specify if it was a 60, 75, 80 or 100 watt bulb, probably whatever most people used at the time.
Tip for CZcams commenters: "Do old PCs use _a lot of power_" *=/=* "Do old PCs use _more power to do less_"
That being said, it's interesting to see that they use roughly the same amount of power, I'd have expected the old to use slightly (but not much) more!
+CarnelProd666 You're expecting an awful lot out of an Internet full of twelve year olds.
+uxwbill Yes, I was going to say that the Tandy computer was built before most of my viewers were born.
cool! I did not expect that!
especially the off new PC that draws nearly 3W !
BTW how do you play music on the old one? what is the file format and program you use? :)
The music at 5:30 reminds me of the Atari Lynx. Now I get the urge to play California Games or Stun Runner again :-)
As far as power consumption, you could swear the utility company charges more if you use less. I've switched to LED lights, newer computers, and also cut down on air conditioning and heating. My KWH has dropped a lot, but my cost hasn't gone down all that much. It's really frustrating!
I think most of the power draw is coming from the crt (pc 20% crt 80%). While the newer pc is 50/50. CRT alone is a power sucking tech
CRT's are awesome tho, my familys living room crt only draws like 60 watts its nothin
pretty nice coloured keyboard :-)
I think it's interesting how both computers use roughly the same amount of power, but how the newer computer is so much more efficient because of how much more capable it is in comparison to that Tandy.
When you were playing I Got You on the Tandy 1000 were you using the interal loudspeaker? That speaker sounds amazing, surprisingly so considering that I suspect the speaker is rather small.
The Tandy 1000 had a built-in digital sound card, years before Sound Blaster. I had a TL as a kid, and was doing digital sound editing on a 286!
+5Rounds Rapid That's one of the things that blew me away about the Tandy 1000 series PCs when I learned about them some six or seven years ago, I don't have one nor have I ever used one, but I think the inbuilt sound system in them is pretty awesome.
I'd be interested to see the VA vs. Watt measurements for both pc's to see what the power factor is of the tandy vs the compaq.
my PC draws around 550 at the wall so older computers definitely draw less power overall
Good to know, saying as I have almost the same computer
Such an interesting video.
It would be awesome if you could install a SSD in a much, much older system. Great video!
Like Druaga
It would be very nice to separately compare the monitors. I suspect the monitor:cpu power consumption ratio is VERY difrent between the two. Modern PCs do have a lot more stuff to drive inside (particularly if there's a high end video card).
The New PC is doing much more and probably using quite a bit less, while the old one is probably running at max speed. The new PC would take more power, but would also be doing a lot more
I think people refer to old Pentium 4s. But the video was good!
Great video as always! What about Amiga vs Raspberry Pi?
I don't have a Raspberry Pi.
I love your keykaps
I love that old FM synth music :D
There is no FM synth music in this video. The Tandy 1000 is chiptune music.
VWestlife Ah, I must be mistaken. The sound reminded me of old 8-bit games from some other platforms. I guess you learn something new everyday.
The solid state hard drive in the newer is saving quite a bit man..
the HD screen does drain the battery like a lot. and 4k screen drain even more power just keep that in mind m8
For 2.5″ (portable) drives you'd be correct, but 3.5″ (desktop) drives may draw up to 10W at idle (for 7200RPM models; slower spindles are less demanding). Granted, that's still no big deal overall (unless you're running a large array); most household AC fans draw more than that.
i have 16W idle with dual core intel pentium (ivy bridge) 35W tdp model and 22W full load - its underclocked to 2GHZ from 2.9 but it was doing only like 3W more + 120GB SSD and 420W seasonic power supply :P
and having SSD makes huge difference, when i had 2 HDDs in it, it was around 35-40W also when i had same setup in different motherboard, it used 5W more so that can make difference too
CRTs DO use a lot more power than a flat screen of a similar size. However, under low loads, there will be little difference between an old computer and a modern one - and under higher loads, the older system will usually win, unless it's a P4-era system. However, you can definitely see the difference in laptops - modern ones use a lot less juice; I have an i5 ThinkPad that will idle at about 5-6W on minimum power settings, whilst an old Pentium MMX laptop with a smaller screen idles at like 10-15W.
at 1:20 you say "cheap USB speakers" are they running on USB power from the compaq pc? also I see a sound cable from the Tandy 1000 after the wavs when you're playing the game music, is that using the same speakers? Just wondering if any of the 60w consumption was for audio amplification
Yes, the USB speakers are powered through USB, but they're so small and cheap that they draw hardly any power -- and remember, I was using the Tandy's built-in speaker during its part of the comparison. At the end of the video I connected its headphone output to my camcorder's microphone input.
Its only when you user server equipment, that the power consumption exceeds 200w. On consumer models, power consumption steadily increases until the end of the pentium 4 line up (>3ghz and single core), and then decreases (due to cpus becoming slower and having multiple cores). So the really old pcs are sometimes negligable in thier power use when the monitor is not connected. (1-16mhz)
The real power hogs in households are amplifiers. My Yamaha surround amp draws 720W under load and a whoopin' 300(!)w in stand-by. It also produces enough heat to warm up an entire small room in winter.
I have that exact compaq machine at the start. chucked a dual core e something in it with 5 gig ram an an old nvidia 8500... still runs crap, but its fine for my htpc, loves win8.1 hates 7, vista or 10 an xp is to old.
you could still get already figured updates for win 98, until recently, what I mean is all pre released updates could still be download via update.
man i miss crt tvs being sold in stores. you had a color tv for like 40 euros. these days you have to play at least 140 for a tv the same size
sounds like a keyboard playing music near the end there.
Energy Star... so funny thing about that: It requires that the "on" mode use more power than the "off" mode. If your appliance uses no power at all in the "off" mode, it can't be Energy Star compliant. Presumably to avoid the loophole of 100% power-saving standby modes, even with the least efficient appliances.
The side effect of this is that your "off" mode must consume SOME power to be measurable and thus certifiable. An amplifier engineer once had to add LEDs in standby mode just have it consume enough power to qualify because the marketing department insisted on an Energy Star rating.
My old LCD monitor alone uses 70-80W and the 22" CRT I have uses 130W, both are extremely power hungry compared to a modern LED lit LCD.
Modern PCs on the other hand have gone up in power consumption compared to the 80s and early 90s, as evident by the power supplies and cooling solutions used in them.
Obviously you can find certain permutations of old computer hardware and monitors that use less power than some modern desktops.
Did you ever get around to installing Unofficial Service pack 4 for XP?
God i can hear that flyback transformer in that tube monitor.
What care is that on your (quoting you) "somewhat modern computer"?
Thanks for the video!
What care?
Don't worry about your aging computer, I still use a Dell laptop from 2007 or so and it works great.
Energy is power integrated over time, so concluding that the need the same power does not say anything about energy. Now go on and compute some digits of pi, and you should conclude that the newer machine uses less energy, since it is faster. Another experiment: Switch of your monitors and see what the consumption of the computer alone is. I bet the old CPU has lower power consumption than the newer one: The last Intel CPU with only heatsink is Pentium II
But vintage PCs are not used for the same tasks as modern PCs, therefore your comparison is pointless. This video was done merely to respond to those who say "old computers must use a lot of power" any time I show one in a video.
Still, it would be interesting to measure without the CRT. The old PC may actually consume less energy on a particular task due to less heat production. The harddrive is a problem here so you may need to boot from floppy to measure that.
Slugbug's a radio DJ now?!
Nice monitor. I have a L1950g, which is essentially identical to the LA1951g. Having used both, I'm really not sure what the difference between the two models might be.
He is, on my channel. :-)
good old Zak Mckracken. And considering all the standby power usage of new machines vs zero standby usage of old machines, the older ones use much LESS power overall.
+simontay1984 except that the old machines have the fastest boot times ever. just press button and dos prompt appears or boots right into deskmate if its a tandy.
Is that Tandy PC playing the music from it's built in speaker? that sounds really good.
Imagine filling it up with music if you weren't limited by the 40MB of available space on the hard drive.
Yes, the Tandy is playing through its built-in speaker.
vwestlife
The speaker sounds really good for an internal speaker. Bet it sounds better in person. Could you install a bigger HDD if you wanted to since it's IDE interface?
The Tandy 1000SL does not have any onboard hard drive interface, so it depends on whatever card you plug in. 40 MB is the largest drive that was ever made for IDE-XT, but with a full IDE (ATA) controller, you can use a larger drive or Compact Flash card.
vwestlife
That's good to know. If you were to add a compact flash card to this what's the max size limit?
haha yeah I love split enz!
Is that a PowerBook G4 or MacBook Pro in the background? (left of the Tandy)
I have both, but that's a PowerBook G4.
Good video. Question. What song do you start playing at 4:09? If you could let me know, that would be cool. Thanks
Split Enz - "I Got You"
Thanks for responding so quickly. Have a good day brother.
[anyone reading this comment that wants to correct me on anything here is welcome to do so.] it's not the amount of power being used at the wall, but how efficient the computer makes use of that power. a comparison of how much power the CRT alone uses off the wall would also be good to show for this sort of thing, as well as the power factor measured by the kill-a-watt of the CRT, both computers, and the LCD by themselves. Also, since the PSU is older, there is definitely more loss in the amount of power going in to provide the necessary voltages the board and components require to run it compared to a much newer supply.
the inherent issue, if anything, is that the 80+ certification has become more of a quality standard than anything now. it forced PSU manufacturers to step up their quality a bit to meet these standards, and the end user benefits from this.
I've measured my HP sleeper box, with the i5-2500k and HD6970, 4 hard drives, enthusiast-class EVGA motherboard and an X-Fi dropped in (plus 5 fans in various places) on my own kill-a-watt and found at idle I was drawing around 130W idle. but it definitely rose up to around 450-475W on everything loaded down CPU and GPU-wise. this is with a 1000W BFG EX series PSU from around 2009 or 2010 by reviews I can find about said PSU.
At the same time, measuring my dual Opteron main workhorse, which just hit 10 years of age on the CPUs, RAM, and motherboard, 13 years on the Audigy2 ZS, variously-aged hard drives, 2008-ish 2-port PRO/1000 PT card, 8 fans (10 if you count the heatsink fans) 2 year old Zotac GTX650Ti Boost, all on a 600W OCZ PSU from 2011, and the idle/load is around 230W and 450W respectively. Both of these PSUs are 80+ rated, but on the basic level. The entire basis for the 80+ rating is to mark that the PSU is going to supply an 80% or higher efficient conversion rate from AC power to DC power at various voltages, but the rate is usually measured across all the rails combined on the output. it does show that idle efficiency of the parts being powered, at least, has certainly changed in the 5-6 years that seperate the heavy-power components sans-GPUs being powered, but the load wattage is the same, also showing a bit of improvement. (the 650Ti Boost drawing less power than the 6970 does)
if there was an easy way to measure exactly how much wattage was being used on the various DC rails inside each computer depicted here, I'd say to go do that and do an update video with it. so yes, you're correct in that it doesn't use much more than a modern basic PC from around 20 years newer, but it doesn't use the power provided in an efficient manner. there's also some hubbub in there about thermodynamics, but that's an entirely different ballgame to talk about, regardless that it's directly related (since wasted power converts to heat!)
Lastly, the Kill-a-watt meters aren't the most accurate wattage meters in the world, so there's definitely a +/- of 5-10% there, and some PSUs will confuse the hell out of one sometimes, saying it draws more power than it actually is.
This video is only to compare raw power consumption, because that's what the comments I were getting were addressing. Anything else is irrelevant and not worth debating here.
+vwestlife Yep, but it's still to say that to say that. others are still going to comment with a similar response, so why not do it first (or second-ish?) 'cause it's youtube!
that said, you did a really decently done comparison. I'd love to see what the consumption of the Eazy PC is.
Is that Mr. Paul D. Millar I hear?
Yes.
The 1500W platinum power supply from corsair is pretty darn efficient (90% minimum efficience at all loads if I remember correctly) and most modern intel CPUs are also running with less watts than the older generations so there's something to those claims.But then we have our fancy gaming GPUs which are different story.
What's the background music?
I have watched as cpu's grew in speed and power consumption over the year but even when they got to there highest power usage levels we were still only talking watts and not amps so ones power bill would not be affected much unless they had many running.
+Charles Wallinger the althlon, p4, p3, were at the peak time of power consumption using the most power then when multi-cores like your duo started a sharp decline in power the tandy was in the early days those had no power and used very little while it is true the monitor crt used more power then newer lcd's
Very interesting. I didn't know computers used the same amount, old or new.
BTW what's the song around the 4:28 mark?
That song is Split Enz - "I Got You"
i have a amp meater built into my power bar, i idle at 4 amps and pull 9 when i game, 120x4 is 480 wats and 9*120 is 1080wats. but i do everclock 2 12 core cpu's and i have a overcloked 300w gpu and a second gpu for phys-x/ left monitor and im a crt or nothing kind of guy. i like my 1536p@85hz
I knew that Windows XP still gets updates because I still use it at work. What was that game or technical demo you were running on the Tandy 1000 SL?
+Lachlant1984 It still gets updates because he modified the system to use the Windows XP Embedded PoS Ready service track, which still gets updates until 2019. Your system at work may also use XP Embedded PoS Ready or gets service updates through a group policy and not from Microsoft directly.
As far as I know, the computer at work has Windows XP Pro on it, and I highly doubt it's running the POSReady version, as far as I know it's running the installation of Windows XP that's been on there since 2009, so it's probably getting the updates from a group policy. My work want to update my computer to Windows 7, but the problem is because I'm vision impaired I use special software that makes the text on the screen very big and reads it out to me using comptuer generated speech, this software will work with Windows 7/8/10, but the version I have doesn't support anything newer than Vista as far as I know and the software is quite expensive to buy.
The game is "Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders".
That's not a modern lcd monitor, lol. Awesome channel!
Yes it is. Plenty of new 5:4 aspect ratio displays are still made today: www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_condition-type_0?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A!493964%2Cn%3A541966%2Cn%3A1292115011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A6570740011%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A2224371011&bbn=1292115011&ie=UTF8&qid=1486227370&rnid=2224369011
They made a lot of advances just in a past few years. Today's laptops and tablets only use about 3 to 5 watts when browsing or watching video. (40 watt-hour battery / 9-10 hours of runtime!)
Jesus H Christ when you turned on the Tandy the CRT whine in the audio literally gave me an instant - and I mean an instant migraine. Have you seen a spectrum on the audio? It's diabolical.
Don't worry, as you get older you won't be able to hear it anymore.
Back then cpu's were really efficient, no need for fan or heatsink, low temps, thats why they last long :)
Can you make a tour of your house?
I have already shown most of it in my videos, especially my camcorder tests.
+vwestlife Can you do a trash picked computer video again?
+Anthony Mondz yes!
I am using my old 16 inch CRT IBM monitor with VGA HDMI adapter seems best then my other old flat screen they are to dark . because my RCA 32 flat quit working few days ago. i was wounding IBM monitor how much more power it uses
Now do a comparison between a laptop and a desktop pc.
That would be interesting.
What's the Tandy's PSU watt rating? After I upgraded the Compaq Presario 6300us Desktop's motherboard with an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ in place of the Pentium III (Celeron) board, I had to swap my Retro PC's PSU, a 520W Corsair PSU with the 230W ATX PSU that was from the Compaq since the Pentium 4+ era boards require at least 400W for power, including the 4-pin connection for the CPU itself. Plus, all of the desktops I own have 2 Optical Drives and 1 Hard Drive. The upgraded Compaq and my Retro PC has a floppy drive.Specs of my Retro PC:230W ATX PSUAbit AB-TX5 SS7 MotherboardAMD K6-2/300 @309MHz (66MHz FSB x 4.5 multiplier w/ turbo boost on)32MB PC-100 SD-RAMS3 Virge/VX PCI Video CardSTB BlackMagic VooDoo2 3dfx cardSound Blaster 16 WavEffects Sound CardGravis Analog Pro joystickRoland SC-55IBM 15" CRT Monitor (could use a cleaning on the VGA head)Compaq (clanky) keyboardLogitech Optical Wheel Mouse hooked up to a homemade USB to PS/2 mouse adapter40GB Seagate IDE HDD (Set the HDD limit to 32GB due to BIOS limitations)52x Gigabyte CD DriveLG CD Burner 32x52x32x1.44MB FDDMS-DOS 7.1/Windows 98SE with Plus! 98 and Space Cadet Pinball from Plus! 95 and Hover.
The Tandy 1000SL's power supply is rated at 67 watts:
support.radioshack.com/support_computer/doc1/1261.htm
Wow. That's not bad for a system from the late 1980s.
We have an old Multimedia PC which uses up 200Watts and my 2016-pc which takes only 30Watts BUT:
It hasnt got 23 Video outputs, 8 Video Inputs, a TV-card, 3cardreaders,4 DVD-drives, inbuilt LCD,....... Built in - so you gotta say it depends on built in hardware.
But when you compare energy consumption per instruction… And they can be compared since they both use very similar instruction sets.
Nice PCs U got.
It's more of a power to performance ratio. Even within the last 4 years since I built a custom desktop (I do architecture so I use a lot of power), Intel's CPU's use about half the power of the generation I bought for roughly the same performance. Just as for the same power consumption you can do a lot more on that XP machine. Hence you both played music and an animation vs. just music on a low graphics screen.
No, in this video it's more of a power to power ratio. I was never intending to compare CPU performance.
+vwestlife I undertand that, just feels irrelevant. Like comparing a calculator to a smart phone running calculator. One obviously has more power than the other.
Good, because the stupid comments I was getting saying that old computers use so much power were irrelevant to begin with. :-)
Depends on what you mean by "old." The pentium 4 and pentium D wasted more electricity than the pentium 3, or most of the newer Core counterparts. Though a couple systems I use still run pentium 4, they have lots of stalls and run very hot. Most of my P4 systems tested at about 110 watts no-load.
Can you maybe do a video on the MacBook Pro on the shelf on the left?
That's not a MacBook Pro.
vwestlife Oh, then what is it then?
If it's not a MacBook Pro then that should be a PowerBook.
Is it just me that i have only just noticed 60fps?
+TruckSimz it looks great
I wonder what the difference would be if both computers were running the same hardware, except the bare minimum that had to change for the computer to be modern.
Heck! My original iMac G3 has a max 80 watt psu and that's driving a computer and a CRT monitor
The CRT is driven by the mains power directly
I can see an indigo clamshell iBook on the chair that is next to the table. Any video on that coming?
I already did a video about it.
+vwestlife Ooops, thought it was another one, genius 🙄
What camera do you use? +vwestlife
No, I used a Sony HDR-CX360 and I don't like it nearly as much as the FS200.
You should ser the newest Inturd x platform nuclear reactors. One of them can hit 400w oced and melt top of the range mobo vrms
Wait...there was a PC version of Zak McKracken?
Somehow I didn't know that. It's probably my absolute favorite classic LucasArts game.
6:06 What that song name?...I like that
Partly cloudy. High (70%) chance of showers. The chance of a thunderstorm. Light winds becoming south to southeasterly 15 to 25 km/h in the middle of the day.
good thing.