Your deck is very similar to my bamboo surfskate deck, I got from Moose. These days, I ride a Yow Meraki in the front and a Waterborne rear-adaptor with an Ace AF1 66 in the back and 70mm, Surfskate Love 78a wheels with Zealous Ceramic bearings. I started with another Ace AF1 66 on a Waterborne front-adaptor like you but once I switched over to the Yow Meraki, there was no going back for me. At last...the Perfect Carve! 😎🤙
I have a carver cx and the waterborne surf and rail adapters. I prefer the waterborne to pump. I use the cx to pump and push. If there are significant uphills, I prefer the cx.
In my humble opinion, I think without the rail adapter actually more similar to surfing. The fins, especially the quads helped to control but also resisted to slide-out. That why a person needed strength to do a cut or a snap.
I can recommend waterborne system for longer wheelbase boards (+19.5"). Only front system if you use shorter wb deck and TKP trucks. TKP´s are my favorit for this system. Waterborne system do not change the orginal wheelbase of deck. Swelltech has the spring system that have poor springs, many of my friends broke them. Remeber to check out that the shape of you board support all these systems. All surfskate systems are their own and have some best points. There are no "simply the best system" in market. For surf skateing all works. If you want to go a ride bowls then Swelltech is not the easiest. I have never tested waterborne skatebords carbon completes but really want to.
I own a swelltech and it's super fun. The only downside is that the springs on the front truck that allow it's versatility in maneuverability can break. I'm a heavier guy and this happens to me all the in consequence. So if you're lighter guy who surfs and wants to closest thing to surfing, swelltech is a go for sure. If you just want great pumping and carving capabilities, waterborne is by far the better choice!
If you want some of the truest surf movement there are three wheel surf training boards that are almost identical body movements to surfing, only issue is they take a LOT of balance
I find that as long as the road is wide enough, I can carve switchbacks to control speed. Otherwise I just bomb it straight on, in which case I've yet to get speed wobbles with the adapters. I think that since it's a trailing link that it stays stable at speed, and the rear rail is supposed to actually help as well. That said, I'm not all that great at drifting and sliding as it is and I don't feel confident enough to try with a Surf adapted board, and not sure that'd even be a thing for pros as it's specifically made for cruising and carving.
I've tried these on a small old school pool deck with independent trucks and I dont get a better turning radius than my Loaded Icarus with 180 mm paris reversi kingpin trucks. Yes you can get a bit more angle in the board but too much and I get back truck wheel bite....
I think it is your deck. Too short wheelbase and The concave do not work with narrow stance. Try without rail adapteri and use The risers to The backtruck.
@@drzilton but I don't get it, it says on their website that you can use it on any deck? If I remove the rail adapter won't I even get more wheel bite than what I get now?
@@drziltonDid you like the Curfboard? I been riding Curfboard for about 2 years and just put them on my board that is a lot like yours and I love them even more.I had the Waterborne on the same board and it was a lot harder to pump and carve. Are you still riding the same board with Waterborne adaptor on. I still got the Waterborne Adapter but i am having so much fun with the Curfboard on my 42in longboard.
@@elielstarbright I prefer waterborne all boards under 38" The boards at video are 33" and 38" if The board is between 35-38" I use rail adapter on back truck.
@@drzilton Mahalo for your feed back. After watching you skateboard it inspired me try the waterborne again so I just order the back adapter. Now to find the right board for them.
In general surf skating and carving do not mean bombing hills. You can put this system to your Dh deck and carve down The Hills or surfskate The asphalt wave.
In my experience with the front adapter on a normal 31" street deck (14" WB), is bombing hills feels like snowboarding, where you're unstable in a straight line, but stable when carving between toe and heel edge. I just ordered a board with 17.5" wheelbase and the rail adapter, hopefully it works!
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your front hand turns in the pocket are sick!!! You ride with so much confidence it is awesome!!
Your deck is very similar to my bamboo surfskate deck, I got from Moose. These days, I ride a Yow Meraki in the front and a Waterborne rear-adaptor with an Ace AF1 66 in the back and 70mm, Surfskate Love 78a wheels with Zealous Ceramic bearings. I started with another Ace AF1 66 on a Waterborne front-adaptor like you but once I switched over to the Yow Meraki, there was no going back for me. At last...the Perfect Carve! 😎🤙
Yes the WB system is good for carve. Have you tried Slide Gen 3.5 it is awesome and definately the best surf system on market right now.
You've got a super fluid style! I've always rode Carver boards, but this looks like it might be worth a check
thank you!
I have a carver cx and the waterborne surf and rail adapters. I prefer the waterborne to pump. I use the cx to pump and push. If there are significant uphills, I prefer the cx.
This is SICK!!!
In my humble opinion, I think without the rail adapter actually more similar to surfing. The fins, especially the quads helped to control but also resisted to slide-out. That why a person needed strength to do a cut or a snap.
Confirm that. To use rail adapter it feel like you ride malibu or surf longboard without the feel is more like shortboard
Sick!
Nice job ! Could you tell me the wide and model of your your truck please
What brand of wheels are those?
Thank you for the video, I’m looking at either getting these or swelltech. Which would you recommend for surf training?
I can recommend waterborne system for longer wheelbase boards (+19.5"). Only front system if you use shorter wb deck and TKP trucks. TKP´s are my favorit for this system. Waterborne system do not change the orginal wheelbase of deck. Swelltech has the spring system that have poor springs, many of my friends broke them. Remeber to check out that the shape of you board support all these systems. All surfskate systems are their own and have some best points. There are no "simply the best system" in market. For surf skateing all works. If you want to go a ride bowls then Swelltech is not the easiest. I have never tested waterborne skatebords carbon completes but really want to.
I own a swelltech and it's super fun. The only downside is that the springs on the front truck that allow it's versatility in maneuverability can break. I'm a heavier guy and this happens to me all the in consequence. So if you're lighter guy who surfs and wants to closest thing to surfing, swelltech is a go for sure. If you just want great pumping and carving capabilities, waterborne is by far the better choice!
If you want some of the truest surf movement there are three wheel surf training boards that are almost identical body movements to surfing, only issue is they take a LOT of balance
A carver board in a pool is good proof! Not much tail but smooth and flowing. Makes me think…
What do you reckon is the ideal wheelbase for these adapters?
20" +
I ride a 10x30 deck with WB front adapter... So you were saying the rear rail isn't so useful on shorter decks... Is that still your opinion?
Is there any trouble if I only buy the front trucks adapter without the rail adapter ?
I just did, works fine but I’m curious to buy it
could you go down steep hills with this?
I find that as long as the road is wide enough, I can carve switchbacks to control speed. Otherwise I just bomb it straight on, in which case I've yet to get speed wobbles with the adapters. I think that since it's a trailing link that it stays stable at speed, and the rear rail is supposed to actually help as well. That said, I'm not all that great at drifting and sliding as it is and I don't feel confident enough to try with a Surf adapted board, and not sure that'd even be a thing for pros as it's specifically made for cruising and carving.
I've tried these on a small old school pool deck with independent trucks and I dont get a better turning radius than my Loaded Icarus with 180 mm paris reversi kingpin trucks. Yes you can get a bit more angle in the board but too much and I get back truck wheel bite....
That is not true cos I have also Icarus + Paris. That board do not turn as well as my Waterborne surf system board same wheelbase.
@@drzilton Maybe it has something to do with my setup? How is yours setup?
I think it is your deck. Too short wheelbase and The concave do not work with narrow stance. Try without rail adapteri and use The risers to The backtruck.
@@drzilton but I don't get it, it says on their website that you can use it on any deck? If I remove the rail adapter won't I even get more wheel bite than what I get now?
@@F1webdesign you technically can use it on pretty much any deck, but the question is: is it optimal on any deck/set up?
Are you using flat washers or cupped washers?
tkp trucks: flat under the barrel bushings and cone + cupped
Have tried the Curfboard trucks?
I have tried
@@drziltonDid you like the Curfboard? I been riding Curfboard for about 2 years and just put them on my board that is a lot like yours and I love them even more.I had the Waterborne on the same board and it was a lot harder to pump and carve. Are you still riding the same board with Waterborne adaptor on. I still got the Waterborne Adapter but i am having so much fun with the Curfboard on my 42in longboard.
@@elielstarbright I prefer waterborne all boards under 38" The boards at video are 33" and 38" if The board is between 35-38" I use rail adapter on back truck.
@@drzilton Mahalo for your feed back. After watching you skateboard it inspired me try the waterborne again so I just order the back adapter. Now to find the right board for them.
Song?
Sorry I dont remember the name it is from youtube free to use music library
If I put an adapter with reverse king pin on a downhill long board, would I be able to bomb hills? Or would the adapter not be able to handle it?
In general surf skating and carving do not mean bombing hills. You can put this system to your Dh deck and carve down The Hills or surfskate The asphalt wave.
In my experience with the front adapter on a normal 31" street deck (14" WB), is bombing hills feels like snowboarding, where you're unstable in a straight line, but stable when carving between toe and heel edge. I just ordered a board with 17.5" wheelbase and the rail adapter, hopefully it works!