"Oh yes, the boy is plainly innocent." I LOVE this scene, and this film. Jeremy Northam is such a wonderful actor, I really don't understand why he's not a bigger star. And Nigel Hawthorne is, of course, a legend.
Loved the movie the script the acting and the very fine usage of the Enlish language . Loved the acting the theme and the nuances - Thank you ever so much for uploading the clip Wish you a good day!!
So here is the key to the scene: Sir Robert suggests to Ronnie that what Ronnie did was forge the money order only as a joke, with no intent of actually cashing the forgery in order to steal his classmate's money. When Ronnie denied having done this, Sir Edward immediately concluded that Ronnie was telling the truth and did not forge the money order. Sir Robert's thinking - never stated until an explicatory scene later in the play - was that if Ronnie had been truly guilty of forging the postal order for the purpose of stealing the money, Ronnie would have jumped at the chance to admit to the "joke theory" in order to avoid a more serious charge. Beautiful writing.
This is very interesting. I'm pretty sure this part, about the "joke," does not appear in the 1948 version, which is the only version I've seen from start to finish. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was a bit confused when I heard it, here at CZcams, in this 1999 clip and a clip from the 1977 version. I had no memory of it, and if I'd not encountered your comment, I wouldn't have known that it is paid off, i.e., in a later scene. Having just now checked the text of the play, I know that it's in it. It would be interesting to know why the makers of the 1948 movie omitted it.
I wish I could find the whole movie, either the 1948, or this remake....thank you for uploading this...was looking for the title for years. Had seen the 1948 a long time ago, and it never left me.....my mind. Thanks for uploading a piece.
I hear that the 1989 tv version with with Ian Richardson and Emma Thompson is also excellent, though I’ve never seen that one myself. They are both great actors though.
the original 1948 film was better , especially the actors portraying the characters young Ronny and Sir Robert . The basic stark black and white background scenes of the film added to the suspense rather than the coloured and filled later version
Much better than this version. Jeremy Northam is a fine actor but I honestly do not know why they didn’t allow him to do all of the questioning of the boy by himself, as was the case with Donat in the 1948 version. It completely breaks up the slow building momentum of his cross examination, and the scene is not as powerful as a result. Plus, I do not find the kid who plays the boy to be nearly as good as Neil North was in the original. Neil is actually crying by the end of the scene, trembling lip and all. He looks like he’s clearly shaken by the experience. Donat’s slow build is akin to a clever spider, gradually trapping the boy in his web. It’s a truly great interchange between the two of them.
I always liked this scene, but looking back on it now, I'd say it's a bit contrived, pretentious and manipulative in making its point, especially the way he offers his associate (assistant?) a ride before asking for the file, and that before saying he's accepting the case. If the Northam character really is such a consummate professional, he'd simply tell the family he was satisfied as to the boys innocence and was accepting the case as soon as he made that determination, rather than stretch out the drama by revealing his decision in a purposely suspenseful way. It's a fun scene the way it's presented, because him saying so casually he believes the boy after the brutal harangue is so unexpected and exhilarating (the boy's/family's sense of beleaguerment and lack of external support suddenly reversed so dramatically as well as nonchalantly; you feel the giant weight suddenly lifted off of them), but as soon as the lawyer knew where he stood, delaying or deflecting from saying so for even a few seconds in that context amounted to an emotional game (i.e., playing with their emotions - especially the boy's) in a way no normal person (let alone a consummate professional, as the Northam character is supposed to be) would engage in that; they'd simply say "I'm convinced; I'll take the case' (or the equivalent).
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"Oh yes, the boy is plainly innocent." I LOVE this scene, and this film. Jeremy Northam is such a wonderful actor, I really don't understand why he's not a bigger star. And Nigel Hawthorne is, of course, a legend.
Я случайно увидела Джереми в сериале,, Корона" Мне очень сильно нравится глаза. Отличный артист, истинный англичанин. Удачи Вам и привет из России.
Thumbs up for Jeremy Northam in a white waistcoat
Jeremy Northam - what a powerhouse of an actor! The film is a classic!
agreed but i was enraptured with rebecca pidgeon's catherine winslow
and that skirt with the thin dark belt ...
@@kramconley7972 I wasn’t. I thought her portrayal was rather wooden, as a matter of fact.
Superbly skilled interrogation of the boy and another great performance by Northam
Such a great film with wonderful performances from all. One of my favourites.
Just an amazing assembly of talent, to make this exceptional film: The best of the best in all respects.
Loved the movie the script the acting and the very fine usage of the Enlish language .
Loved the acting the theme and the nuances - Thank you ever so much for uploading the clip Wish you a good day!!
The English have a way with words.
Love this film. 🙏 thank you!
Great film, well cast, felt very authentic...
Rebecca pigeon is an excellent actress.
So here is the key to the scene: Sir Robert suggests to Ronnie that what Ronnie did was forge the money order only as a joke, with no intent of actually cashing the forgery in order to steal his classmate's money. When Ronnie denied having done this, Sir Edward immediately concluded that Ronnie was telling the truth and did not forge the money order. Sir Robert's thinking - never stated until an explicatory scene later in the play - was that if Ronnie had been truly guilty of forging the postal order for the purpose of stealing the money, Ronnie would have jumped at the chance to admit to the "joke theory" in order to avoid a more serious charge. Beautiful writing.
This is very interesting. I'm pretty sure this part, about the "joke," does not appear in the 1948 version, which is the only version I've seen from start to finish. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was a bit confused when I heard it, here at CZcams, in this 1999 clip and a clip from the 1977 version. I had no memory of it, and if I'd not encountered your comment, I wouldn't have known that it is paid off, i.e., in a later scene. Having just now checked the text of the play, I know that it's in it. It would be interesting to know why the makers of the 1948 movie omitted it.
I wish I could find the whole movie, either the 1948, or this remake....thank you for uploading this...was looking for the title for years. Had seen the 1948 a long time ago, and it never left me.....my mind. Thanks for uploading a piece.
I think it is available in Amazon. Also, there is a version that you can see for free in CZcams but it has ads.
The 1948 version is free on CZcams . Just saw it a couple of days ago.
Let right be done.......
Every time, Sir.
Superb. The 1948version is even better. Morton is based on the real lawyer in the case, Sir Edward Carson.
I agree
The Jacket.
I love J Northam but the 1948 version with R Donat is way superior.
1977 isn't bad at all.
I hear that the 1989 tv version with with Ian Richardson and Emma Thompson is also excellent, though I’ve never seen that one myself. They are both great actors though.
the original 1948 film was better , especially the actors portraying the characters young Ronny and Sir Robert . The basic stark black and white background scenes of the film added to the suspense rather than the coloured and filled later version
OK job, but this scene with Robert Donat and Neil North is superb.
Much better than this version. Jeremy Northam is a fine actor but I honestly do not know why they didn’t allow him to do all of the questioning of the boy by himself, as was the case with Donat in the 1948 version. It completely breaks up the slow building momentum of his cross examination, and the scene is not as powerful as a result. Plus, I do not find the kid who plays the boy to be nearly as good as Neil North was in the original. Neil is actually crying by the end of the scene, trembling lip and all. He looks like he’s clearly shaken by the experience. Donat’s slow build is akin to a clever spider, gradually trapping the boy in his web. It’s a truly great interchange between the two of them.
I always liked this scene, but looking back on it now, I'd say it's a bit contrived, pretentious and manipulative in making its point, especially the way he offers his associate (assistant?) a ride before asking for the file, and that before saying he's accepting the case.
If the Northam character really is such a consummate professional, he'd simply tell the family he was satisfied as to the boys innocence and was accepting the case as soon as he made that determination, rather than stretch out the drama by revealing his decision in a purposely suspenseful way.
It's a fun scene the way it's presented, because him saying so casually he believes the boy after the brutal harangue is so unexpected and exhilarating (the boy's/family's sense of beleaguerment and lack of external support suddenly reversed so dramatically as well as nonchalantly; you feel the giant weight suddenly lifted off of them), but as soon as the lawyer knew where he stood, delaying or deflecting from saying so for even a few seconds in that context amounted to an emotional game (i.e., playing with their emotions - especially the boy's) in a way no normal person (let alone a consummate professional, as the Northam character is supposed to be) would engage in that; they'd simply say "I'm convinced; I'll take the case' (or the equivalent).
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I think this was perhaps the last decent film that was made.
Are these American actors who can't quite manage the accent?
Ummm, no.
How insightful!
Nothing slips past you mate.
Yes, Jeremy Northam is a Texan and Nigel Hawthorne was from Alabama. LOL
Now. I will be heard meme, TAXES. The Net. twerk.
An I deal. Husband. Taxi or Mini and a suitable driver please. Allegedly The Skylar's the limit to Skylon, boy.
G I R L.
Happy?
No, just astonished at your post.