@@kathrynrhodes7785expressing an opinion isn’t pressuring pressuring would be saying this dog loves you if you don’t adopt this dog and it bites someone else it’s on you no one is saying that no one is being that cruel ( I’ll add here just incase this is seen and mis construed I don’t see this as the case at all I see a beautiful young woman who has done her best for an animal it would be amazing if she could adopt him sure but that’s not what fostering is and I’m sure she has her reasons for not being able to like traveling for work etc she is in no way responsible for the pup when he leaves her all she can do is know she tried her best and gave love while with her )
@@lucyjohnson2451it’s is pressuring. this is an emotionally charged situation and people saying this fucking constantly is not helpful. perhaps there’s reasons she can’t adopt. perhaps she wants to foster countless other dogs that need help. OP is guilt tripping whether they mean to or not.
I really wish people would understand and take the decompression stage seriously. Most dogs are not ready to play during the first day. It is so frustrating when new dogs are set up for failure in their new homes. I’m sorry you and he have to go through this.
not only that, but they literally tried taking HIS toy away on the FIRST day! Like what was wrong with them, seriously? Even if you've had a dog for months, it is still not ok to try to take away their toys. Play WITH them, yes, but taking their toys entirely? Hell no
@@PurrfectlyCreative333 it's good for safety to train dogs to surrender anything they have to you without issue but that is not something you begin working on until you've already built a relationship of trust.
@@Ari_C yes, I know but he was in a new environment. Even if he was trained to surrender anything, he was still under stress.. Poor boy, I really hope she's able to get him trained well so it doesn't happen again. I would hate to see that precious sweety get put down. And hopefully, knowing what she knows now, that she warns the next potential new family of the stress he will be under going to a new home so they can properly get him comfortable in his new home at his own pace
A warning nip is not the same as being attacked and bit. They don't sound like dog people. Getting a rescue is hard and requires great patience and compassion. I hope all goes well for him from now on.
That tiny little graze does not warrant a bite report surly they knew about his anxiety and stuff before taking him on some people just should not take in rescue dogs or dogs at all I’m so glad he is coming back to you so you can help him even more thank you for being an amazing angel for him ❤
My niece’s son adopted a Pit and since they were completely clueless the Pit injured a small dog and was put down.There should be some kind of criteria to own any pup with Pit or Bulldog in its lineage.There’s no such thing as a bad dog but there are bad dog owners
If that's all it took to count as a bite then I had dogs bite me hundreds of them while playing with them .... that's not a bite you just caught the end of the dogs tooth
He was just scared. New people, new place and everything. When any animal gets scared there's a instinct to try to protect themselves even if there really isn't a threat. I really hope training helps, he's such a sweet boy.
@@HanaTheRussellliterally. like what was the point in filling out a bite report over that tiny thing….. imagine them going to the ER for it, they’d get laughed at. so irresponsible on their end
@@HanaTheRussell could've been an over energized play bite. Because on their first day they're crazy overstimulated! My family has always turned lights down, tv volume down, calm energy for a few days after getting a new dog. With plenty of breaks for them in a room by themselves. Never had a bite, even for our big rescue (she was previously abused) she wouldn't even eat when someone would look at her. Took us months to slowly get her past the feeding anxiety. Then we got a cat that would steal her food so now she circles the room howling before eating 🤣 telling the cat to eff off. Still no aggression and it's been 14 years Point being, they clearly didn't know enough to probably even distinguish the reason for the bite. Let alone reading body language. Clearly unfit to have a dog. Not poor Zeppelins fault 😢
@@inbou4531 You definitely wouldn't get laughed at. If you get bitten by a dog, no matter the size of the bite, you should always go get medical attention. Dogs carry infections
@@yazzybean I think they meant that you would get laughed at because that's ridiculous. Most people can treat something of that size at home. It's likely too small to get seriously infected. Honestly speaking if you just put a Band-Aid over that you'll probably be fine.
Especially their first day!!! You're supposed to keep the energy low and calm and not immediately introduce toys. These morons filed a bite report FOR A SCRATCH?? Unfit for animals and should not own pets. Theyre ruining lives
It's OK if you can't keep him, this is just practice picking out good new owners an how to spot the ones who aren't cut out to be understanding of the transition an will take things super slow til the dog feels ready an comfortable to hang out with the new people.
Oh really? So we aren’t the ones with all of the weapons? In this case, the weapon being gas or a needle to kill him. You’re simply incorrect if you think he poses more of a threat to humans than humans do to him.
Anyone that wants a dog - especially a rescue- HAS to know the signs and behaviors of an anxious dog. It’s essential. An anxious dog wont act like they would if they were comfortable and relaxed, just like humans. The instinct is to protect. That sounds & looks like just a very anxious, overwhelmed pupper, which makes complete sense! No harm was intended on pupper’s part🥺. Having a rescue takes so much patience and understanding. One day is a grossly short amount of time to expect a new fur baby to get adjusted! I hope you find the right people for him
My 5 year old dog is a reactive dog. I found him on the streets when he was aprox 2 months ( by the vets estimate). Both me and my partner know how to handle him and we know his limits so that he is safe for others as well, but time and again I'm left speechless by the expectations from people that 'a dog should never snap' or that dogs need to just always be comfortable, loving and welcoming around humans or never need personal space.
@@my-chemical-romance if u click the picture u can just watch her shorts it’s not too far down ❤ hope this helps hha most links don’t work when posted super annoying 😂❤
idk she refuses to keep him, yet she got an extremely reactive foster dog w no prior experience, has not documented any sort of training or informing herself on how to properly care for him, and now he has this bite report and there's been no real updates. i can see she cares about him but it's not enough when all she does is talks about the work that needs to go into it and then doesn't do anything. he should've gone to a much more experienced foster and i'm sincerely worried about his future. he wasn't ready to be placed in a forever home and they rushed it. she's made many videos talking about how she doesn't wanna keep him for x and x reason, and how they needed to urgently find a forever home
@@theovertyrant2620 I'm not trying to pressure her sorry if it came off that way I was just trying to be nice I'm well aware there are reasons people cannot commit to dogs long time , but it is also clear she is very committed to the pupper and so if she was able to that would obviously be the best option , once again, I was not meaning to sound forceful
In 2003 I adopted a dog(American Pit) that I was told that she had been agressive towards somebody. I was cautious at first, but I personally never saw her display any aggressive behavior. She was extremely smart, & the best dog Ive ever had. My little girls(who are grown now) would put their dress up clothes on her, and she would just sit there and take it. We had her for years until she went to heaven, naturally, of old age. Sometimes, perhaps the dog just needs the right family or person.
@@YumWaterwhat would you suggest tho? Clearly other people wouldn’t care much about filing another report. If she cares so much about Zeppelin, she’s gonna have to make a choice
@@YumWaterI get that she must get loads of comments saying this but it's not pressuring, people are just trying to be nice by pointing out the loving bond between them both. Pressuring would be something like "you better adopt that dog or you're terrible" please understand that people are just being kind.
Sometimes thats not possible. Fostering animals is freaking amazing. I love that people do it, but theres obviously a reason why she hadnt kept him in the fiest place unfortunately
@@MyCre8tiveUserNamedid u see the bite its so freaking little and its a new place for him if u dont have a heart and dont like dogs u need some serious help
Anxiety meds helped my dog so much, I’m so sorry this happened. My dog is an extreme barker when he is scared. They were life changing for him. Sending love.
same! my dog is on fluoxetine (literally Prozac) and it helps him a lot, thank god he's a small dog because he does get bitey and snarky when he's not on his meds, and if he was a big dog i'm sure it would be much more difficult to get him proper care if they're that quick to be against dogs that bite yk
My lovely dog has the same disability as Zeppelin and is also partially blind, and when we rescued him from a shelter a few months ago he had terrible food anxiety. We think he was born in a puppy mill, since he's a purebreed with signs of inbreeding, and so due to his disabilities he probably had to get aggressive in order to get anything to eat. After that, he spent a few months in a shelter where he wasn't fed with any structure or with other animals around, and wasn't around anything that was unsafe for him to eat. As a result, in those first couple months we got some gnarly bites while we were figuring out his triggers and how to work with him- all of them preventable with more foresight and caution on our part. So he has a squeaky clean record. I can't imagine filing a report for a nervous scrape like that. (These days he's still a little edgy about his food, but recently I took him to a house party and the food bowl belonging to the dogs living there was on the floor in the living room, we walked past it several times and then stood beside it for like ten minutes with no issues 😊)
If you find a new family for him, talk extensively with them! You need to know how they view these sorts of things. Tell them this story. If they can't recognize his actions were logical and he just needs training and love, don't let them take him
@@mamavswildIn most scenarios I would agree with you, however this occurred on the FIRST day with a dog that the new owners KNEW would need an adjustment period due to his nervous temperament. It was incredibly irresponsible of them to even allow him the opportunity to bite, and I would also argue unethical for them to write a bite report over a minor bite when they should have been more careful of their handling and respectful of the decompression period.
@@Marie-cp6ueyou never trained a dog, did you? Because that's not really how it works. You aren't supposed to "not give opportunity to bite", because there's always an opportunity. Dog must be trained to never ever consider biting the human unless attacked. No bite is minor bite.
This is the reason I kept my foster dog tbh. I couldn’t let her go to someone that would do this to her when she’s just anxious and scared. I’m crying right now for you girly I’m so sorry ❤
^ can’t listen to the people who don’t have profile pics. They know they’re assholes and their opinions suck, that’s why they can’t even stand behind them publicly :)
Honestly you are really close to him and he's comfortable around you so you should probably adopt him yourself and then he'll have the loving owner he needs
It’s heart breaking to see animals punished for human mistakes. It should be common sense to not try to take a toy away from a brand new dog that doesn’t know you. Training in a new home should start from the minute the dog walks in the door. Not just to teach the dog how to behave in their new home, but to start building a relationship and giving the dog an opportunity to trust and respond to you. I hope Zeppelin finds an awesome home willing to work with and understand him!
Maybe not first day tho idk I feel like they should’ve let him have space for maybe a week before like pushing him to change etc settle a bit know he’s safe etc
@@allisxn420I know everyone in the comments are just concerned for Zeplin but I just feel like we should not try to pressure them into adopting him. They had him for 5 mos, they must have their own reasons for not adopting, which can be as simple as, they want to continue to have the capacity to foster other dogs in the future. Whatever their reasons are they are private and they don't need to share those with us, I'm not suggesting you were in anyway being rude, you like so many others just want this sweet dog to get a new forever home where he is loved and cared for, but let's not try to pressure Liz and her bf into adopting. They are doing an incredible thing as foster parents to Zeplin.❤
@@malloryy_2not really. It’s the right thing to do. It would be unjust to not pass that information on to families who considered adopting him in the future. If the same bite happened to the face of a baby who was curious about the dog’s toy, it would not be considered a “little” bite.
It’s scary to do everything for an animal so he can get adopted just to have someone undue everything in minutes! And then to not even be good enough to understand their part in the problem!! Sad! Thank you for helping him!❤
These comments suck. Sometimes, as much as you want you can’t. She’s already doing so much by fostering. I know you mean well, but no. If she could she would.
In some states if you're seeking medical attention for a bite, you have to file a report. If it drew blood, it would be a concern due to how much bacteria is in a dog's mouth. I've had an infected dog bite and it's no fun. They might have overreacted about the severity of the bite and it sounds like they generally weren't a great fit for him, but if they went to urgent care or a doctor it might have been out of their hands to file a report or not
The doctor doesn’t force you to file a report you just tell them that a dog bit you and you know they have their shots. There’s no repercussion to holding out on information about which dog it is .
@xmmademoisellex Then I hope she finds someone who has the same compassionate outlook as she does. It may help for her to go through a rescue organization or some other resource that could help pair him with people with a family that isn't cool with the idea of killing an animal just because of a nip he gave under understandable circumstances.
If you really care about this dog as much as you say, then take him back into your home. Don't expect others to show the same level of caring and compassion as you do.
I’m so sorry to hear this story. I hope he gets the training he needs to find just the right forever family! Side note: my family had a dog named Zeppelin. We called her Zeppy. ❤️
bro thats such a tiny bite. i feel like anyone with experience having animals knows they can behave unpredictably when afraid or with new people or in new places (esp if they’ve had past trauma!!). i occasionally foster cats and refuse to give up any babies to ppl who don’t have experience w/ potentially temperamental pets for at least a decade. liz, ur doing amazing by fostering Zeppelin to begin with; it’s clear how much you care for him. sending yall both love 💕
@pettymamas838 I just wanted to type that my puppies used to bite way worse. My kittens also made worse wounds while playing. This is a fostered dog with anxiety and filling a bite report over this is such a BS.
It’s not the size of the bite, it’s the fact that the bite broke the skin. If you get bitten by any animal and it breaks the skin, you need to have medical treatment to prevent an infection or other diseases, just like if a human bit you and broke the skin, so this isn’t even specific to dogs. When you get medical treatment for any kind of bite, the person treating you is going to tell you to fill out a bite report. This doesn’t mean the person who got that is some evil dog hater who wants to put Zepplin down.
My guess is, since a toy was involved, he was trying to grab his toy back! And a hand was in the way. My German Shepherd but me once out of sheer panic (absolutely my fault not his) and I couldn’t move my hand for two weeks!!
Can’t believe that a scared dog in a new inviroment who nipped at someone got filed for a bite report. Exactly like you said; for Zepplin to get put down over that small of a problem would be horrible. I desperately hope that there is a way to remove that bite record because he should be able to live his life like the happy dog he is. Good luck with him ❤❤
I've had worse papercuts than that nip. Like the lady in the video said, it's important to take even the smallest of nips seriously in terms of training and looking into the reasons of the bite, but to file a fucking bite report over it????
@@ashleyhamlin511regardless of how much damage you think the person needed to experience, they were bitten. And not only were they bitten, it broke the skin. You wanna say it’s not a bad bite? Sure. But let’s not bullshit ourselves and pretend it’s not exactly what it is. Truth be told you shouldn’t try to downplay peoples injuries either but baby steps.
I can't believe that person gave him a bite report over what looks like a papercut. I've been bit by my dog and she has bit my kids...not because she's evil or bad...but because she has anxiety or she's defending herself. She loves my kids so much. We are her family and my kids love her. We would never do that to her. She is also recently back on her anxiety meds. After training her and her being with us for almost a year now she's been alot better. A house without kids and maybe older people that have relaxing lives who live not near a city. That would be best for dogs like this. My dog gets stressed from hearing an ambulance or a car starting. Knowing dogs triggers are so important. You're doing the best you can ❤
A bite is a bite. Once a dog bites, it is easier for them to bite the next time. Even though it’s small, it’s extremely serious. I hope Zeppelin finds the right home, but it’s important to understand that no matter how small the bite might be, it still shows that he will not hesitate to bite if he feels uncomfortable. Obviously I wasn’t there, so I didn’t see if he was giving off any obvious warning signs prior to the bite, but I personally would not adopt a dog with a bite history. Its not worth the risk for me. It sounds like he needs to be in a home with an experienced handler.
@@elisa11041I slipped down the awful staircase in my old apartment building twice and it hurt 928338 times more than that bite. Thank The Lord the falls didn’t do anything more than cause terrible bruising on my thigh 😂
A bite is a bite. Just because he didn’t break more skin doesn’t mean he won’t do it again next time. He’s an ANIMAL and sometimes you gotta treat them more like animals then humans.
Foster families make such a difference in these animals lives. All you can do is give them as much love and attention as you can while they are with you. We have had a situation similar to this when we fostered and I can completely relate. You are clearly doing such an amazing job caring for this dog! I will be praying for you and for him! ❤
I agree. For some reason, people think the dog should come to them all perfect. Just like people, they come with different temperaments. The dog is entering a new environment and needs time, the encouragement and understanding of the people he is with, to feel safe and loved. There's a transition. Think how you would feel if you were suddenly dumped in with a whole new family. And love your dog. We all need love, and it will go a long way with your new pet. ❤
Where i live its not comon, so i wonder how the instabiliy affects the dog, if a dog as already been abandoned, giving it a temporary home, doesnt it confuse the animal futher? How does the dog know witch is its actual home when as soon as he feels safe hes taken away? Could that be the reason its more agresive? Or is it just this case and they usually are ok? Or do they only let particular dogs in foster due to particular circunstanses?
@@ilovecyllan It's pretty common with shelter dogs. If you watch Dog Daddy, Cesar Milan, or other good dog training videos, you will see them handle so many dogs. Cesar says only in America are dogs so neurotic and psychotic. He and Dog Daddy handle dogs on their last chance. But every dog they handle comes out so much better. Dogs develop a lot of fear when the owner fails to see to their needs, when they don't communicate with their dog appropriately - responding to your use of the leash or standard commands. A dog will give you back what you give it. Also, people expect dogs to be like people. No, dogs communicate in a whole different way. You have to come into their world and use their language. In that way, your dog will become a welcome part of your family and everyone will live in harmony.
@@joannemcardle1848 I see, from all the dogs weve picked up from the streets, only one had something of a problem, she would start snaping when she got to excited from atention. I wouldnt say it was agression couse she was clearly happy but didnt know how to express it i guess, we would just stop the atention when she started doing it and eventually she stoped doing it. But if i had then re homed her, even if she could re adapt, i feel like she would never completly trust a human again. Its like re abandoning them. Thats why im not so sure about foster care been such a good thing, althou i cant deny its better than the streets.
I have a rescue that was an amazing loving dog and out of no where he attacked one day for no reason and has been aggressive ever since he wasn’t harmed in the home or outside of the home so I called for help one day and a lady that works for a shelter said to me sometimes this can be genetic it doesn’t always necessarily have to be an abused animal I told her one day I came home from work to take him out I first went to use the bathroom he was laying on the floor and I came out to say are you ready to go to the bathroom he jumped up and came at me I backed up into the bathroom and closed the door I yelled for him to go upstairs he did then I left for work it was so sad cause he’s never done that to me. He growls at people and acts aggressive towards others so I have to keep him in a separate room unfortunately them when they leave I let him out. Vets have turned us away to get vaccinations and checks and shelters have turned me away they said they do not take aggressive dogs 😢 he will continue to be with me I’m not giving up on him.
And if she want to continue fostering the dogs have to go to a new home imagen if a foster home keept every dog or cat that came through than you have no more foster homes
@@anabella4166do you know why they have him in the first place? I'm genuinely wondering because I feel like they HAVE to consider the fact that finding a home that fits him (preferably child free, HAS TO HAVE DOG EXPERIENCE, preferably special needs dog experience) is veeeeery difficult. You as a current owner have to realize that you're responsible for picking a next owner who you feel is responsible, PATIENT and calm enough to handle a nervous dog with disabilities. And there's no guarantee that you'll find that person.
He needs you. Keep him. By the sounds of it you’re the only one willing to work with him and haven’t given up on him. I can see how much this dog means to you and how much you mean to him
@@misspiggy4545I don't think they're trying to pressure her, I think it was suggestion and they just worded it in a way that seemed a little demanding but not in a rude way just the way they worded it. I don't think they meant to make it seem like she had too or anything of the sort.. they are just stating their opinion in their words, sorry if I came off rude I'm not the best at wording things 😂 especially not shortly as you can tell by the previous paragraph and this sentence of me trying to explain if I come off rude I don't mean to 😅😂
I’m so sorry for all the animals that get put down for no fair reasons. As an animal rescuer, the cats at our shelter never ever get put down unless there is no medical cure and staying alive means they’ll suffer. I hope Zeppelin finds the right people 😢
I know right, a dog needs to adjust, and in that time they are going to be more aggressive than they normally be because they're scared and lonely, the people they knew are gone, give them time to adjust
People like this need to be dealt with. They endanger an animals life over their own stupidity or overreaction. Not cool. Let's put their life in jeopardy over trivial shit and see how they like it. 100
If I could take him I 100% would. My family lost their dog a few months ago. But the have babies in the house and are taking care of a cat rn. He's the cutest goodest boy ever!! That needs to be understood by his owners.
That’s so sad! When we adopted our dog, she was biting us for a few months while playing but we knew that it takes time to teach her to be more gentle. And now she’s such a valuable part of the family! But I hate people who adopt and give up their pets. Only one day passed and they even filed a report. So terrible
Our Trippy was returned 3 times. He has been such a blessing to our family. He was very nervous with my husband. Nipped him. Now they are inseparable. You have to give these sweet animals a chance.
We took in a dog and he wasn’t the most pleasant. We already knew taking him in would take some training and building trust with him. We gave him some space and until he felt comfortable enough to be around us. It’s a slow process but there are steps when taking a dog in. Sending you love and positive vibes! He will find someone who has the time and patience to train him ❤️
i have permanent scars from my great pyrenees but she is the sweetest dog in the world she’s just clumsy!! she’s a protective sheepdog, was lunging for another dog, i had her under control but her teeth accidentally hit my leg and i still have a scar six years later. it’s on ME to take care of her. i had control, it was a freak accident, and it wasn’t that bad, but there’s no way she should get put down for that because she wasn’t even trying to hurt anybody! filling out a bite report for that paper cut looking thing was obscene. no dog deserves to be put down over that.
My dog is a rescue. She was abused, the man abused his wife and kids, she was underweight, food aggressive, and wouldn’t bark for the first week or so that I had her. She has straight up MAULED me trying to protect herself or my partner (from me because she was scared even though we were playing) I have gotten bites that I have scars over. But I kept going, kept training her, kept LOVING her, and she is the sweeted thing in the world. I'm not a dog person, but I would never, ever, EVER give her up (or sign this type of paperwork) because of these. She is trained, and she wears a pant-muzzle near new people just in case. A bite report for something like that? They didn't deserve him in the first place, and I know he's a good boy. He'll find someone that loves him and understands him, the way he deserves. Don't lose heart, he'll get there 💞
@@sydneygraham1470...exactly. These comments are filled with this comment...it's not very kind, imo. They have done an amazing thing fostering him helping him get healthy and protecting him, if they haven't chosen to adopt him by now, they have their reasons which they do not need to share with the internet. Every other comment is "I think you should adopt him" . Talk about not just appreciating what she and her bf have done for this pup for the last 5 months.
Hopefully you all find him a home where the family knows and respects the dog's boundaries so they can learn and grow with him. Wishing you all and Zeppelin the best with this process moving forward 💜
Please please help this innocent boy. He does not deserve to be put down. That would the most inhumane thing ever. Please take him and help him. He does not have that many years. Their short lives deserve better!!!
I adopted a dog who had been returned to the shelter twice because he nipped somebody. When I got him he was like Cujo, but he looked like Benji. People would want to approach when we walked but I would always keep them away from him. He loved me but strangers, to him, meant he had to protect himself. I knew if I returned him they might euthanize him and I couldn’t bear the thought of that. It took him a few years to completely decompress and he ended up being a wonderful dog who loved everybody. I could have company over and no longer have to close him up in the back room. You just have to give them time. He taught me that. Gus was a great lil fella. I miss him almost every day.
Same with my sisters new dig. He bit her in the head & several other places. She will not report it bc she doesn't want him to be put down. But he keeps attacking her.
You have inspired me to speak up about mental health at work. I have struggled with orthorexia, have chronic depression and anxiety, and ADHD, and watching how open you are has helped me learn to love myself and lead the charge in mental health discussions with friends and colleagues! Love watching your videos, please never stop being you
This hurt my heart. I hope Zeppy makes it; I believe it's possible for any living creature to find some semblance of happiness, with the right support.
I've noticed that when my shorkie is around people and especially my ex who I'm talking about. It wasn't this Marley bit him but that Craig startled him with his hand in front of his face and Marley jumped up and my ex pulled his hand back... That caused the small break of skin there was actually no biting done by the shorkie but one would think so.. very very sad you go get that baby and highly doubt it'll happen with you
I ended up adopting my dog after she bit someone. Same situation- I fostered her, took her into the shelter and left her for vet care, she bit them (barely a scratch) after that I couldn’t risk her being put down because she was scared. She’s my best friend and while we still have a lot to work on (she still is terrified of vets) she is doing amazing
As someone who has helped foster reactive dogs - and from a place of love for both you and Zeppelin - when placing, start really super slow. Visits with you in his space that he's comfortable in. Walks as a group (people he's comfortable with + new people) to solidify his new bonds with new pack members. Visits to his new home with you that result in him going back with you. Visits where he stays somewhere else for a couple of hours at a time before you pick him back up. Transitioning a reactive dog who adjusts really slowly to new people can be a weeks/months process. Hugs to both you and Zeppelin. You can do this, he can do this.
I was looking for this comment, on how long the introduction and transition period was. Getting adjusted to new people and places takes time and trying to do that all at once is stressful all around. The right family will be patient and take the needed time for everyone to get to know each other ❤
He doesn't understand why he had to be with these strange ppl. Am so sad hearing this .Dogs are so smart and they sense our every emotion. I really pray that you can keep him.
she would've kept him if she could, we all have different situations, she obviously has given the idea much thought already, please stop pressuring her and making it worse and harder for her than it already is, even if you're coming from a good place with good intentions
@@tini96 she has her reasons, we all have different situations, plus she isn't obliged to do smth It's tiring to see thousands of ppl suggesting/asking the same thing, Liz has done her best so far and god forbid smth were to happen to Zeppelin, I wouldn't want her to blame herself :/ she's really been doing her best and it's not good to stack up everything on the one kind person in the scenario, she's trying all that she can and everyone insisting the same thing over and over again must be difficult for her considering she obviously has already given the idea much thought and has come to the conclusion that she can't adopt him, we all should be a lil more considerate and understanding of her situation yk
I'm sorry to hear this I hope nothing but the best for your companion. If things have turn for the worst we are about to have puppies. Mom is Saint Bernard and Pitbull dad is straight husky. Feel free to come to the farm and enjoy some puppy love.
Amazes me that dogs aren't given many chances but we sure them nasty criminals as many chances as possible🤬 The people need to be trained I hope everything works out well for the furbaby😎🌻🐾💜
Hope you get him in a home that is accepting - I have four dogs and would hate to loose a single one. If you are taking on a rescue dog the new owner needed training to work with the dog, not the other way around.
I think Zeppelin was destined to be yours , please adopt him Liz Edit : people in the comment section NEED to chill like it's just an opinion, I love dogs and I love Liz's content there's no hate whatsoever . She's a freaking adult and nobody is pressurising her to do anything . This comment section did not pass the vibe check, anyway peace ✌🏻
You do know she probably has thought about but maybe she doesnt want to you know, i dont want to sound rude but there is a reason they are just fostering him.
@@Plantje1999 i completely understand the situation and that's why I have so much respect for people who foster animals, like my emotional ass could never handle that !
@@TraceyAllen but maybe they just dont have time or they work a lot or any other reason they might have. It isnt just it is a good fit so you take a dog it is a lot to consider
My dog, the sweetest, most wonderful dog in the world, growled at me the first night she was with us. She was chewing on a bone beside my chair and I dropped my hand down. It scared me, but we forgave her and she's literally my best friend. I hope Zepplin finds a better home with people that will understand him.
Growling is a normal response to dog being threatened and is a GOOD thing. You want a dog to growl. Going right for a bite is not a normal thing and could lead to a very dangerous future. Biting is a normal dogs LAST resort.
@@francesca1870 and so many people ignore whale eyes, lip licking etc. Dogs don't always growl before they bite, especially ones who have been scolded for it, but they definitely tell you they're uncomfortable.
Dude my mom’s cat has bit her like 3 times and she forgave him every single time and let’s him lay in her bed still 😂😂😂 I know that’s not good for her to still let him lay in her bed and proceed to still pet him since cats are way different and not as gentle but dude you don’t file a bite report for a little nip on the finger. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ you file it if the dog angrily bit you and caused real harm. God forbid any dog do that but yk
My dog is also really sweet but has snapped at two people, my niece and my aunt. Both were harassing him at the time so it was his way to get them to stop. He bit my aunts cheek and did make her bleed a bit. My niece has been a few times and just nips. Some time you just have to respect the dogs space.
Reactive biting, which is what Zepplin did, often means that a dog will go straight to biting and will not growl or other warning signs. Biting is the first reaction. That is a very dangerous behavioral issue that needs to be taken really seriously.
These are horrible people that don’t deserve to have a dog. They don’t seem to understand dogs and how they might feel and communicate either. My dog was rescued after seven years of abuse and bit me twice after I adopted him because I had to pick him up as he was putting himself in a dangerous situation while we were on a walk and I couldn‘t get him out safely otherwise. I wouldn‘t even think about giving him away because of that. He doesn’t like to be picked up, I needed to pick him up, so he didn’t get hurt. He bit because he is severly traumatised. It’s okay. I decided to adopt him although he is difficult to handle, so I pay the price and not him. Besides the scar on my face looks kinda cool actually. And over the years he became the best friend I ever had and to this day he never bit again. I can even pick him up now. He just needed his time and not just weeks. He needed years before I could even pet him. I really don’t understand why people get a dog, especially a rescue dog, when the don’t want to give them the time they need and go with them through the good AND the bad times. Some people really think they just got a new furry object that needs to function
They didn't handle things poorly. Zep is a sweet dog... who after five months of training bit someone on day one. This video is, at best, being told from the perspective of an unreliable narrator. The whole point of fostering is to surrender the dog. But after five months, with feelings this strong, the math isn't mathing.
@@milord9387well..you gotta look at both perspectives here. We don’t know if the family had children or not, and Zeppelin could’ve nipped one of them, or nipped at a guest. If having children were the case, then you have to put your young first, not the dog, you only get one chance with kids, after that, no more. But I do think it is a bit overboard to do a bite report for a nip, but we can’t do anything about it now.
@Iseewater so they don't have to tell internet how kind people should be to take care of this poor dog, if they aren't in the first place, a dog is not a toy so if you have children, you should think carefully before taking a dog, of course they considered him like a toy to throw away, and the worst thing is that they are blaming the other family, when he was already attached to them and not the other family. They are so hypocrite, they take a dog for a toy, throw him away and blame on internet how ashamed should the other family be. This is just awful. Animals are not toys to play with.
I’ll never forget the time when I took my dog for a walk & this older man wouldn’t stop trying to pet him meanwhile he was growling, and I was trying to get him away saying “Haha doesn’t look like he’s in the mood” (Big strong golden retriever😂) He didn’t bite the guy, but he snapped/barked and the guy was like “ooooh that was a close one” Like no shit lol
I've always had dogs in my life. Six total, two passed of old age and my family currently has four. I was housesitting for family, they had two dogs. One was a rescue with jealousy issues, and the other was anxious. They ended up fighting each other when I got back from a walk (They needed to be walked one at a time) I got bit during the attack and not only did it bleed, it scarred. (Both of the dogs are fine, with only minor injuries) I knew what I was getting into. It was the first time they fought in three years and I was just unlucky. I didn't file anything against the dogs and the fact that those people filed a report over a graze is insane to me. I get marks like that from my puppy when she accidentally plays too rough. if you can't handle anxious dogs, don't get a rescue. If you can't handle little nips, don't get a dog.
That's so devastating, a family adopting should always be prepared to take things slow and let the animal adjust, it's horrible he's now going to be prejudiced against for a "bite record" and turn away potentially great homes. Thank you for working so hard for him and his right to a happy home❤
True but as a parent, I want to be assured that any incident like that is recorded. One of the things that puts people (especially those who have kids) off rescuing is being unsure of safety. An adult dog has a history. It’s not like getting a puppy. People need the reassurance that an incident like that is recorded and disclosed. Maybe if you don’t have kids you won’t understand. I’ve been there. I was vegetarian when I was 4, when my family weren’t, it wasn’t fashionable and there weren’t the amazing vegan options there are now. Why? I love animals. And I absolutely think they’re important. But they do NOT even register as important if it’d mean compromising the safety of my kid. Any history of going past a warning bark to actually biting is important. A lot of animals WOULDN’T be willing to do that, but he did and it should be disclosed. Could you imagine if it weren’t and a family adopted him, he bit their kid, and they then found out about the bite history? The shelter would be sued into oblivion, it’d be a great news item the media would love it. People would be even more reluctant to rescue an animal. Stop thinking emotionally
@@Sofia-th1fz you are far from correct. Dogs are animals, not humans. If you put an animal in a position where they feel like they are being threatened, and they communicate that to you but you still continue, they will respond and protect themselves. Be it fight, flight, freeze, or fawn, a dog will respond to feeling threatened. Bite report are used as a record of the dogs “propensity for violence”. The bite is just used as evidence to suggest that the animal in question has a propensity for violence. Bite reports have levels and depending on the state, the bite victim has responsibility in the situation. Yes if it’s a dog with a severe and aggressive propensity for violence, that needs to be recorded and handled *but* you don’t know the situation and Zeppelin easily could’ve been trying to grab the toy and their finger got in the way and if this situation was a misunderstanding, having a bite record is extremely detrimental to a dog like Zepplin. As a concerned parent, you shouldn’t need a bite record to be prepared for the fact that a dog is an animal and if triggered in a specific way they might react negatively. If you have any animal in your home with your children, you should be knowledgeable about how animal behavior works and should act accordingly. Relying on the presence of a bite report to be what tells you about the nature of the dog is irresponsible and even further, assuming that the absence of one means a dog won’t ever act out with aggression is why situations like these occur. The people that have this mindset are always the ones that blame the dog for their own lack of understanding. So many innocent dogs are put down because people misunderstand the behavior of dogs and like to treat dogs like they aren’t still animals by nature. Like if someone tried to take a toy from a tiger and it bit them, you’d be like well you were kinda asking for it bc why on gods green earth did you try to take a toy from a tiger. Common sense would tell you that’s a bad idea bc most likely you will get bit. Rescued dogs are typically more akin to a wild animal than a domesticated animal so trying to take a possession from a rescued dog that youre just getting to know isn’t a wise thing to do. This isn’t an emotional thought, it’s an objective fact. People really need to stop getting dogs that they aren’t prepared for and then turn around and blame the dog when they do something bad instead of recognizing their own ignorance about how a dog communicates through behavior.
@@Sofia-th1fz more information needs to be taken into account when these bite reports happen! How long he was with owners, age, how it happened, location etc. I have kids. It's likely my son would get nipped my our family elder dog because she has very sensitive hips. If he were to sneak up on her and put pressure she would probably think it was a different dog (she's going blind and is deaf) and snap a little, but not maul anyone. So I teach my kid not to touch her hips, and I don't leave them alone. This was a brand new dog, he was likely overstimulated and it could've even been a play nip with too much energy. They set him up for failure. And put a permanent record with no context on his life. I've been scratched by a dogs tooth that I got too excited on first meet. I would NEVER fill out a bite report for that. I knew what I was doing incurred risk of small injury.
@@Sofia-th1fz but putting a bite record for that makes the dog seem violent. why adopt a dog who you KNEW had troubles if you had a family with little children? that's on you if your child gets bitten, not the dog.
I am so, so sorry that he got a report for that. I'm very glad you're taking him back and working on helping him manage anxiety better. Please accept my - our - respect and our good wishes for Zeppelin.
I have a dog who recently got bit by another dog she was bleeding a ton and had to get stitches and we did not file a report. I honestly wish we could this bite it’s not bad at all
He was scared and confused. People who adopt already grown dogs, who have been through a rough patch, must be prepared to give the animal time and space to calm down and get used to the new people and surroundings. I hope Zepellin won't be put down over this and keep my fingers crossed that he will find the right people for him 🤞❤️
My last dog bit me about 10 times. I deserved it based on circumstances. I bit him about 5 times. He deserved it based on circumstances. He passed of old age. I was the only person he was ever nippy towards. It was love
As someone who comes from a family of breeders and trainers (dog show family im not involved nor am i enthusiastic about buying vs rescuing but only saying so can know that its not just rescue dogs who do this) DOGS SOMETIMES BITE. It can be accidental during play time or it can be a fear/trauma response, which can be common in any dog regardless of when you got them or where they came from. Its something to work on and train through and yh sometimes medicate and alter how you interact to reduce the risk (should be altering from the get go until dog is comfortable but at least altering if you see a negative response from them and maybe keeping those adjustments if they have longterm issues) but if it is YOUR DOG then reporting a bite is like reporting your infant for domestic abuse for accidentally hitting you while playing. Its an overreaction and not only damaging to the dogs life but makes you look unbelievably stupid. I hope Zeppelin finds a forever home that can support and love him the way he deserves and that the owner that reported him and surrendered him gets blacklisted because no animal deserves to be treated like that
I showed my mom the videos of him and we both agreed that you most likely are the best fit for him. You know how to deal with him and he does trust you and he seems to enjoy you guys a lot
She may be fostering because she can only have dogs temporarily, she shouldn't be shifting her life around because you, your mom and half of her subscribers want to guilt trip her into longterm pet ownership. This is an unfortunate part of foster care, she can't adopt every dog with a sad story. Just like humane societies, sometimes animals are euthanized, just cause you can give them a good home doesn't mean you should over extend yourself.
@@raeechili don’t think anyone’s trying to guilt trip her, it’s just obvious that he has a bond with her and has special needs that she knows how to take care of, and if he were to go to another home where the owner did something silly that stressed him out and he nipped them for it, he could die.
@@biohazardg1rl You're trying to manipulate her behavior, her decision to not keep the dog, with the fact that a dog could die if she doesn't. That is the definition of a guilt trip, trying to manipulate someone's behavior with guilt that something bad is going to happen as a result of their behavior.
@@biohazardg1rl or are you just saying everyone's guilt trip is okay because they're just all unaware of what they're doing? In which case, take accountability when people like me call it out. People are endlessly defending their right to comment their opinion, the majority don't care that they're being manipulative.
At this point I’d say keep him for yourself. He adores you.
Stop pressuring her. She probably has her reasons. She feels bad enough already. It’s her choice. Let her be.
@@kathrynrhodes7785she isnt pressuring her 😭😭
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@@its_taylor157I mean, the comments repeatedly saying "keep him for yourself" over and over again is not pressuring someone? 😂 then what is??
@@kathrynrhodes7785expressing an opinion isn’t pressuring pressuring would be saying this dog loves you if you don’t adopt this dog and it bites someone else it’s on you no one is saying that no one is being that cruel ( I’ll add here just incase this is seen and mis construed I don’t see this as the case at all I see a beautiful young woman who has done her best for an animal it would be amazing if she could adopt him sure but that’s not what fostering is and I’m sure she has her reasons for not being able to like traveling for work etc she is in no way responsible for the pup when he leaves her all she can do is know she tried her best and gave love while with her )
@@lucyjohnson2451it’s is pressuring. this is an emotionally charged situation and people saying this fucking constantly is not helpful. perhaps there’s reasons she can’t adopt. perhaps she wants to foster countless other dogs that need help. OP is guilt tripping whether they mean to or not.
I really wish people would understand and take the decompression stage seriously. Most dogs are not ready to play during the first day. It is so frustrating when new dogs are set up for failure in their new homes. I’m sorry you and he have to go through this.
Exactly
This is exactly what I wanted to say. They didn't deserve him.
not only that, but they literally tried taking HIS toy away on the FIRST day! Like what was wrong with them, seriously? Even if you've had a dog for months, it is still not ok to try to take away their toys. Play WITH them, yes, but taking their toys entirely? Hell no
@@PurrfectlyCreative333 it's good for safety to train dogs to surrender anything they have to you without issue but that is not something you begin working on until you've already built a relationship of trust.
@@Ari_C yes, I know but he was in a new environment. Even if he was trained to surrender anything, he was still under stress.. Poor boy, I really hope she's able to get him trained well so it doesn't happen again. I would hate to see that precious sweety get put down. And hopefully, knowing what she knows now, that she warns the next potential new family of the stress he will be under going to a new home so they can properly get him comfortable in his new home at his own pace
A warning nip is not the same as being attacked and bit. They don't sound like dog people. Getting a rescue is hard and requires great patience and compassion. I hope all goes well for him from now on.
Not all nip are a warning sometime when playing with a dog you just catch it's tooth .... a warning is the barking at you or growling at you
That tiny little graze does not warrant a bite report surly they knew about his anxiety and stuff before taking him on some people just should not take in rescue dogs or dogs at all
I’m so glad he is coming back to you so you can help him even more thank you for being an amazing angel for him ❤
Agreed that isn't even a bite
It broke the skin
My niece’s son adopted a Pit and since they were completely clueless the Pit injured a small dog and was put down.There should be some kind of criteria to own any pup with Pit or Bulldog in its lineage.There’s no such thing as a bad dog but there are bad dog owners
If that's all it took to count as a bite then I had dogs bite me hundreds of them while playing with them .... that's not a bite you just caught the end of the dogs tooth
@@user-rj6js5mq8yyea not by much you want to see a real dog bite look online
He was just scared. New people, new place and everything. When any animal gets scared there's a instinct to try to protect themselves even if there really isn't a threat. I really hope training helps, he's such a sweet boy.
@@HanaTheRussell fr They shoud know
@@HanaTheRussellliterally. like what was the point in filling out a bite report over that tiny thing….. imagine them going to the ER for it, they’d get laughed at. so irresponsible on their end
@@HanaTheRussell could've been an over energized play bite. Because on their first day they're crazy overstimulated! My family has always turned lights down, tv volume down, calm energy for a few days after getting a new dog. With plenty of breaks for them in a room by themselves. Never had a bite, even for our big rescue (she was previously abused) she wouldn't even eat when someone would look at her. Took us months to slowly get her past the feeding anxiety. Then we got a cat that would steal her food so now she circles the room howling before eating 🤣 telling the cat to eff off. Still no aggression and it's been 14 years
Point being, they clearly didn't know enough to probably even distinguish the reason for the bite. Let alone reading body language. Clearly unfit to have a dog. Not poor Zeppelins fault 😢
@@inbou4531 You definitely wouldn't get laughed at. If you get bitten by a dog, no matter the size of the bite, you should always go get medical attention. Dogs carry infections
@@yazzybean I think they meant that you would get laughed at because that's ridiculous. Most people can treat something of that size at home. It's likely too small to get seriously infected. Honestly speaking if you just put a Band-Aid over that you'll probably be fine.
If you can’t handle a little nip from a little, defenseless animal, then you shouldn’t be adopting an animal. Speaks to the people not to the animal.
Especially their first day!!! You're supposed to keep the energy low and calm and not immediately introduce toys. These morons filed a bite report FOR A SCRATCH?? Unfit for animals and should not own pets. Theyre ruining lives
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100% correct!!!! I had a feeling she should just keep Zepplin and I think this proves it. She’s the best for that sweet boy ❤
It's OK if you can't keep him, this is just practice picking out good new owners an how to spot the ones who aren't cut out to be understanding of the transition an will take things super slow til the dog feels ready an comfortable to hang out with the new people.
Oh really? So we aren’t the ones with all of the weapons? In this case, the weapon being gas or a needle to kill him. You’re simply incorrect if you think he poses more of a threat to humans than humans do to him.
Anyone that wants a dog - especially a rescue- HAS to know the signs and behaviors of an anxious dog. It’s essential. An anxious dog wont act like they would if they were comfortable and relaxed, just like humans. The instinct is to protect. That sounds & looks like just a very anxious, overwhelmed pupper, which makes complete sense! No harm was intended on pupper’s part🥺. Having a rescue takes so much patience and understanding. One day is a grossly short amount of time to expect a new fur baby to get adjusted! I hope you find the right people for him
My 5 year old dog is a reactive dog. I found him on the streets when he was aprox 2 months ( by the vets estimate). Both me and my partner know how to handle him and we know his limits so that he is safe for others as well, but time and again I'm left speechless by the expectations from people that 'a dog should never snap' or that dogs need to just always be comfortable, loving and welcoming around humans or never need personal space.
I have never watched this channel before. But this brought tears to my eyes. If you can, adopt him. He sounds like an angel.
Jesus... yall are active
She sadly can't she's made a few videos saying why if you're curious
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@@my-chemical-romance if u click the picture u can just watch her shorts it’s not too far down ❤ hope this helps hha most links don’t work when posted super annoying 😂❤
idk she refuses to keep him, yet she got an extremely reactive foster dog w no prior experience, has not documented any sort of training or informing herself on how to properly care for him, and now he has this bite report and there's been no real updates. i can see she cares about him but it's not enough when all she does is talks about the work that needs to go into it and then doesn't do anything. he should've gone to a much more experienced foster and i'm sincerely worried about his future. he wasn't ready to be placed in a forever home and they rushed it. she's made many videos talking about how she doesn't wanna keep him for x and x reason, and how they needed to urgently find a forever home
If your able to I'd suggest keeping him permanently, you clearly care alot and have his best interests at heart :) x
I agree.
And you’re a responsible dog parent
yes.
I think if she was able to she obviously would have she has her reasons she’s clearly emotionally attached to the situation stop this nonsense.
@@theovertyrant2620 I'm not trying to pressure her sorry if it came off that way I was just trying to be nice I'm well aware there are reasons people cannot commit to dogs long time , but it is also clear she is very committed to the pupper and so if she was able to that would obviously be the best option , once again, I was not meaning to sound forceful
In 2003 I adopted a dog(American Pit) that I was told that she had been agressive towards somebody. I was cautious at first, but I personally never saw her display any aggressive behavior. She was extremely smart, & the best dog Ive ever had. My little girls(who are grown now) would put their dress up clothes on her, and she would just sit there and take it. We had her for years until she went to heaven, naturally, of old age. Sometimes, perhaps the dog just needs the right family or person.
Have strength. And hopefully you will find the perfect people for him.
It’s a sign. You belong to him. You must keep him. ❤
Quit the pressuring
Definitely needs the original home
@@YumWaterwhat would you suggest tho? Clearly other people wouldn’t care much about filing another report. If she cares so much about Zeppelin, she’s gonna have to make a choice
@@YumWaterI get that she must get loads of comments saying this but it's not pressuring, people are just trying to be nice by pointing out the loving bond between them both.
Pressuring would be something like "you better adopt that dog or you're terrible" please understand that people are just being kind.
That's incredibly creepy and not as endearing as you want it to be.
I really think the safest thing for Zeppelin is for you to keep him. I can tell that you care soo much for this dog!
Ikr
Sometimes thats not possible. Fostering animals is freaking amazing. I love that people do it, but theres obviously a reason why she hadnt kept him in the fiest place unfortunately
I hope he got the home he needs. Dogs like this need a good loving home with patience and the ability to train him.
Please protect this sweetheart. I couldn’t see someone putting that baby down for something like that. Sending blessings/prayers for Zeppelin ❤️💜🩵
Those people really failed him. It's okay to be upset and feel worked up over it, you're rightfully so 😢❤
These people should be put on a black list and never be able to adopt an animal.
Wtf? I would have had the dog put down that same day. How did the people who adopted him fail him? Bc they didn't tolerate a bite? You're messed up.
@@MyCre8tiveUserNamedid u see the bite its so freaking little and its a new place for him if u dont have a heart and dont like dogs u need some serious help
@@MyCre8tiveUserName you should probably also not own an animal.
@@MyCre8tiveUserNamewtf? you’d put him down for a single bite? don’t get a dog.
Anxiety meds helped my dog so much, I’m so sorry this happened. My dog is an extreme barker when he is scared. They were life changing for him. Sending love.
same! my dog is on fluoxetine (literally Prozac) and it helps him a lot, thank god he's a small dog because he does get bitey and snarky when he's not on his meds, and if he was a big dog i'm sure it would be much more difficult to get him proper care if they're that quick to be against dogs that bite yk
I didn’t know you could do that, my dog nips and growls a lot but she’s tiny so she’d never be able to do any real damaged
My lovely dog has the same disability as Zeppelin and is also partially blind, and when we rescued him from a shelter a few months ago he had terrible food anxiety. We think he was born in a puppy mill, since he's a purebreed with signs of inbreeding, and so due to his disabilities he probably had to get aggressive in order to get anything to eat. After that, he spent a few months in a shelter where he wasn't fed with any structure or with other animals around, and wasn't around anything that was unsafe for him to eat. As a result, in those first couple months we got some gnarly bites while we were figuring out his triggers and how to work with him- all of them preventable with more foresight and caution on our part. So he has a squeaky clean record. I can't imagine filing a report for a nervous scrape like that.
(These days he's still a little edgy about his food, but recently I took him to a house party and the food bowl belonging to the dogs living there was on the floor in the living room, we walked past it several times and then stood beside it for like ten minutes with no issues 😊)
I hope with all my heart this dog will get a loving home with patient, understanding people.
If you find a new family for him, talk extensively with them! You need to know how they view these sorts of things. Tell them this story. If they can't recognize his actions were logical and he just needs training and love, don't let them take him
I 100% stand with the family who turned him in!!
So sick of the ‘oh he’s scared!’ Excuse.
No. It’s not ok.
@@mamavswildthat is such a cold opinion.
@@mamavswildIn most scenarios I would agree with you, however this occurred on the FIRST day with a dog that the new owners KNEW would need an adjustment period due to his nervous temperament. It was incredibly irresponsible of them to even allow him the opportunity to bite, and I would also argue unethical for them to write a bite report over a minor bite when they should have been more careful of their handling and respectful of the decompression period.
@@mamavswildi hope you get out down
@@Marie-cp6ueyou never trained a dog, did you? Because that's not really how it works. You aren't supposed to "not give opportunity to bite", because there's always an opportunity. Dog must be trained to never ever consider biting the human unless attacked. No bite is minor bite.
This is the reason I kept my foster dog tbh. I couldn’t let her go to someone that would do this to her when she’s just anxious and scared. I’m crying right now for you girly I’m so sorry ❤
@@San-eh8doew what's wrong with you
@@San-eh8doyou need something called a brain :D
^ can’t listen to the people who don’t have profile pics. They know they’re assholes and their opinions suck, that’s why they can’t even stand behind them publicly :)
@@San-eh8dothank you for having common sense
@@living.dead__girl ewww they are right. Good dogs DO NOT BITE
Honestly you are really close to him and he's comfortable around you so you should probably adopt him yourself and then he'll have the loving owner he needs
It’s heart breaking to see animals punished for human mistakes. It should be common sense to not try to take a toy away from a brand new dog that doesn’t know you. Training in a new home should start from the minute the dog walks in the door. Not just to teach the dog how to behave in their new home, but to start building a relationship and giving the dog an opportunity to trust and respond to you. I hope Zeppelin finds an awesome home willing to work with and understand him!
She didn't say the person tried to take the toy.
She said the person who got bite was 2 close to the dog which was playing with his toy
Maybe not first day tho idk I feel like they should’ve let him have space for maybe a week before like pushing him to change etc settle a bit know he’s safe etc
@@cw93711 my comment still stands for this tbh.
Petion for Zepplin to be treated better
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Yes! He is traumatized. They shouldn't be so harsh on the poor dog.
@@UisImportant7agreed! They are clearly not dog people
has she said anything about adopting him?? poor pupper just wants a home
@@allisxn420I know everyone in the comments are just concerned for Zeplin but I just feel like we should not try to pressure them into adopting him. They had him for 5 mos, they must have their own reasons for not adopting, which can be as simple as, they want to continue to have the capacity to foster other dogs in the future. Whatever their reasons are they are private and they don't need to share those with us, I'm not suggesting you were in anyway being rude, you like so many others just want this sweet dog to get a new forever home where he is loved and cared for, but let's not try to pressure Liz and her bf into adopting. They are doing an incredible thing as foster parents to Zeplin.❤
@@malloryy_2not really. It’s the right thing to do. It would be unjust to not pass that information on to families who considered adopting him in the future. If the same bite happened to the face of a baby who was curious about the dog’s toy, it would not be considered a “little” bite.
Talking about all the care this dog needs and to say it's going to be fun is the definition of resilience ❤️
It’s scary to do everything for an animal so he can get adopted just to have someone undue everything in minutes! And then to not even be good enough to understand their part in the problem!! Sad! Thank you for helping him!❤
I speak for us all when I say that you have the kindest heart to help him so much. I believe he's home with you, already❤
my heart sunk when i was watching this and almost started crying to..i really hope she adopts him..🫶🏻
These comments suck. Sometimes, as much as you want you can’t. She’s already doing so much by fostering. I know you mean well, but no. If she could she would.
Regardless it’s actually quite common that fostering leads to adoption
I wish she would adopt him too. His furever home is with her. ❤
He needs a responsible, honest, adult who will train him.
In some states if you're seeking medical attention for a bite, you have to file a report. If it drew blood, it would be a concern due to how much bacteria is in a dog's mouth. I've had an infected dog bite and it's no fun. They might have overreacted about the severity of the bite and it sounds like they generally weren't a great fit for him, but if they went to urgent care or a doctor it might have been out of their hands to file a report or not
The doctor doesn’t force you to file a report you just tell them that a dog bit you and you know they have their shots. There’s no repercussion to holding out on information about which dog it is .
I’m wishing him all the best 💜💜
I think you should adopt him. He obviously loves you more than anyone else!
yes.
Same. Humans are so cruel. Children bite... A LOT and we do not put them down.
@@plamoretti673I love this comment
@@plamoretti673hahaha I would have been as a baby
@@plamoretti673Not saying ur wrong or anything but I’ve never been around a child that likes to bite, and yes I am around children a LOT
Just keep him girly; he's already so attached and loves you so much
she's already said she can't afford to keep him
@xmmademoisellex Then I hope she finds someone who has the same compassionate outlook as she does.
It may help for her to go through a rescue organization or some other resource that could help pair him with people with a family that isn't cool with the idea of killing an animal just because of a nip he gave under understandable circumstances.
@@xmmademoisellexIf she can foster him for 5 months.. Then she can.
@@jessiewhitman8688that's not how life works girlie.
@@jessiewhitman8688When fostering, the organization you work with usually covers all costs, definitely vet bills and usually food etc.
If you really care about this dog as much as you say, then take him back into your home. Don't expect others to show the same level of caring and compassion as you do.
I’m so sorry to hear this story. I hope he gets the training he needs to find just the right forever family!
Side note: my family had a dog named Zeppelin. We called her Zeppy. ❤️
bro thats such a tiny bite. i feel like anyone with experience having animals knows they can behave unpredictably when afraid or with new people or in new places (esp if they’ve had past trauma!!). i occasionally foster cats and refuse to give up any babies to ppl who don’t have experience w/ potentially temperamental pets for at least a decade. liz, ur doing amazing by fostering Zeppelin to begin with; it’s clear how much you care for him. sending yall both love 💕
Right. Then they filled out a bite report for it, so now it’s on his record. When my dog was a puppy he bite me way worse then that. Like come on smh
I’ve had my Guinea pigs give me a worse bite, dude shouldn’t be a lower to own animals if one nip makes him want to put a dog down
@pettymamas838 I just wanted to type that my puppies used to bite way worse. My kittens also made worse wounds while playing. This is a fostered dog with anxiety and filling a bite report over this is such a BS.
It’s not the size of the bite, it’s the fact that the bite broke the skin. If you get bitten by any animal and it breaks the skin, you need to have medical treatment to prevent an infection or other diseases, just like if a human bit you and broke the skin, so this isn’t even specific to dogs. When you get medical treatment for any kind of bite, the person treating you is going to tell you to fill out a bite report. This doesn’t mean the person who got that is some evil dog hater who wants to put Zepplin down.
My guess is, since a toy was involved, he was trying to grab his toy back! And a hand was in the way. My German Shepherd but me once out of sheer panic (absolutely my fault not his) and I couldn’t move my hand for two weeks!!
Can’t believe that a scared dog in a new inviroment who nipped at someone got filed for a bite report. Exactly like you said; for Zepplin to get put down over that small of a problem would be horrible. I desperately hope that there is a way to remove that bite record because he should be able to live his life like the happy dog he is. Good luck with him ❤❤
They don’t do that
I've had worse papercuts than that nip. Like the lady in the video said, it's important to take even the smallest of nips seriously in terms of training and looking into the reasons of the bite, but to file a fucking bite report over it????
Honestly that wasn’t even a bite. Yes, I understand bites are serious but for real? For something that could be mistaken for a paper cut?
@@ashleyhamlin511 that’s exactly what I was trying to say
@@ashleyhamlin511regardless of how much damage you think the person needed to experience, they were bitten. And not only were they bitten, it broke the skin.
You wanna say it’s not a bad bite? Sure. But let’s not bullshit ourselves and pretend it’s not exactly what it is. Truth be told you shouldn’t try to downplay peoples injuries either but baby steps.
I can't believe that person gave him a bite report over what looks like a papercut. I've been bit by my dog and she has bit my kids...not because she's evil or bad...but because she has anxiety or she's defending herself. She loves my kids so much. We are her family and my kids love her. We would never do that to her. She is also recently back on her anxiety meds. After training her and her being with us for almost a year now she's been alot better. A house without kids and maybe older people that have relaxing lives who live not near a city. That would be best for dogs like this. My dog gets stressed from hearing an ambulance or a car starting. Knowing dogs triggers are so important. You're doing the best you can ❤
People should be trained too. Understand boundaries and dogs way of processing . Good luck to Z.
This is absolutely heartbreaking, especially seeing what the “bite” looked like… sending you guys lots of strength and cuddles for Zeppelin 🤍
I fell on my face and hurt myself more than that "bite".
A bite is a bite. Once a dog bites, it is easier for them to bite the next time. Even though it’s small, it’s extremely serious. I hope Zeppelin finds the right home, but it’s important to understand that no matter how small the bite might be, it still shows that he will not hesitate to bite if he feels uncomfortable. Obviously I wasn’t there, so I didn’t see if he was giving off any obvious warning signs prior to the bite, but I personally would not adopt a dog with a bite history. Its not worth the risk for me.
It sounds like he needs to be in a home with an experienced handler.
@@elisa11041I slipped down the awful staircase in my old apartment building twice and it hurt 928338 times more than that bite. Thank The Lord the falls didn’t do anything more than cause terrible bruising on my thigh 😂
@@Caffeinatedkisssure, but it was day one with a rescue, plus a toy involved. There are a lot of things to consider before blaming the dog
A bite is a bite. Just because he didn’t break more skin doesn’t mean he won’t do it again next time. He’s an ANIMAL and sometimes you gotta treat them more like animals then humans.
Foster families make such a difference in these animals lives. All you can do is give them as much love and attention as you can while they are with you. We have had a situation similar to this when we fostered and I can completely relate. You are clearly doing such an amazing job caring for this dog! I will be praying for you and for him! ❤
I agree. For some reason, people think the dog should come to them all perfect. Just like people, they come with different temperaments. The dog is entering a new environment and needs time, the encouragement and understanding of the people he is with, to feel safe and loved. There's a transition. Think how you would feel if you were suddenly dumped in with a whole new family. And love your dog. We all need love, and it will go a long way with your new pet. ❤
Where i live its not comon, so i wonder how the instabiliy affects the dog, if a dog as already been abandoned, giving it a temporary home, doesnt it confuse the animal futher? How does the dog know witch is its actual home when as soon as he feels safe hes taken away? Could that be the reason its more agresive? Or is it just this case and they usually are ok? Or do they only let particular dogs in foster due to particular circunstanses?
@@ilovecyllan It's pretty common with shelter dogs. If you watch Dog Daddy, Cesar Milan, or other good dog training videos, you will see them handle so many dogs. Cesar says only in America are dogs so neurotic and psychotic. He and Dog Daddy handle dogs on their last chance. But every dog they handle comes out so much better. Dogs develop a lot of fear when the owner fails to see to their needs, when they don't communicate with their dog appropriately - responding to your use of the leash or standard commands. A dog will give you back what you give it.
Also, people expect dogs to be like people. No, dogs communicate in a whole different way. You have to come into their world and use their language. In that way, your dog will become a welcome part of your family and everyone will live in harmony.
Trainer and rescue worker here. Rescue dogs need a lot more than love and attention. They need species fulfillment and training more than cuddles.
@@joannemcardle1848 I see, from all the dogs weve picked up from the streets, only one had something of a problem, she would start snaping when she got to excited from atention. I wouldnt say it was agression couse she was clearly happy but didnt know how to express it i guess, we would just stop the atention when she started doing it and eventually she stoped doing it. But if i had then re homed her, even if she could re adapt, i feel like she would never completly trust a human again. Its like re abandoning them. Thats why im not so sure about foster care been such a good thing, althou i cant deny its better than the streets.
Tht little behind bite.😃 That's like scrapping my leg on a edge of the table.
I have a rescue that was an amazing loving dog and out of no where he attacked one day for no reason and has been aggressive ever since he wasn’t harmed in the home or outside of the home so I called for help one day and a lady that works for a shelter said to me sometimes this can be genetic it doesn’t always necessarily have to be an abused animal I told her one day I came home from work to take him out I first went to use the bathroom he was laying on the floor and I came out to say are you ready to go to the bathroom he jumped up and came at me I backed up into the bathroom and closed the door I yelled for him to go upstairs he did then I left for work it was so sad cause he’s never done that to me. He growls at people and acts aggressive towards others so I have to keep him in a separate room unfortunately them when they leave I let him out. Vets have turned us away to get vaccinations and checks and shelters have turned me away they said they do not take aggressive dogs 😢 he will continue to be with me I’m not giving up on him.
Please, please keep him. He’s comfortable and feels safe with you❤
Omg STOP Pressuring her! OBVIOUSLY she would if she could!
And if she want to continue fostering the dogs have to go to a new home imagen if a foster home keept every dog or cat that came through than you have no more foster homes
@@anabella4166do you know why they have him in the first place? I'm genuinely wondering because I feel like they HAVE to consider the fact that finding a home that fits him (preferably child free, HAS TO HAVE DOG EXPERIENCE, preferably special needs dog experience) is veeeeery difficult.
You as a current owner have to realize that you're responsible for picking a next owner who you feel is responsible, PATIENT and calm enough to handle a nervous dog with disabilities. And there's no guarantee that you'll find that person.
@@TovaHolmberger exactly
@@TovaHolmberger she can’t keep the dog either way. She’s already made a video on it.
He needs you. Keep him. By the sounds of it you’re the only one willing to work with him and haven’t given up on him. I can see how much this dog means to you and how much you mean to him
stop pressuring her
@@misspiggy4545I don't think they're trying to pressure her, I think it was suggestion and they just worded it in a way that seemed a little demanding but not in a rude way just the way they worded it. I don't think they meant to make it seem like she had too or anything of the sort.. they are just stating their opinion in their words, sorry if I came off rude I'm not the best at wording things 😂 especially not shortly as you can tell by the previous paragraph and this sentence of me trying to explain if I come off rude I don't mean to 😅😂
@@AlexCarneyKidd not being rude at all! You hut the nail on the head
@@misspiggy4545 wasn’t pressuring her. As stated below it was my opinion. You can clearly see how much the dog means to her and the dog adores her.
How I wish I could adopt each and every dog in need, one of mine (I have 4) nips at me too but never at guests. I am the villain in his eyes.
It’s gonna be ok!I’ll be praying for you!
I’m so sorry for all the animals that get put down for no fair reasons. As an animal rescuer, the cats at our shelter never ever get put down unless there is no medical cure and staying alive means they’ll suffer. I hope Zeppelin finds the right people 😢
What happens if you put a dog down..?
@@annabelstienstra4495its dead?
This is so heart breaking to hear for you and Zeppelin 😭
Go. Go now and go get him. Now!!!
Now that I am hearing this I’m crying😢😢
You never ever put your hands too close to a new dog, especially a scared one. I hate when people overreact to a small nip-
THANK YOU.
I know right, a dog needs to adjust, and in that time they are going to be more aggressive than they normally be because they're scared and lonely, the people they knew are gone, give them time to adjust
I would NEVER give up on a dog for nipping at me, especially a new dog who is obviously adjusting. Awful selfish people
People like this need to be dealt with. They endanger an animals life over their own stupidity or overreaction. Not cool. Let's put their life in jeopardy over trivial shit and see how they like it. 100
Honestly people like that should not have pets
If I could take him I 100% would. My family lost their dog a few months ago. But the have babies in the house and are taking care of a cat rn. He's the cutest goodest boy ever!! That needs to be understood by his owners.
That’s so sad! When we adopted our dog, she was biting us for a few months while playing but we knew that it takes time to teach her to be more gentle. And now she’s such a valuable part of the family! But I hate people who adopt and give up their pets. Only one day passed and they even filed a report. So terrible
Our Trippy was returned 3 times. He has been such a blessing to our family. He was very nervous with my husband. Nipped him. Now they are inseparable. You have to give these sweet animals a chance.
We took in a dog and he wasn’t the most pleasant. We already knew taking him in would take some training and building trust with him. We gave him some space and until he felt comfortable enough to be around us. It’s a slow process but there are steps when taking a dog in. Sending you love and positive vibes! He will find someone who has the time and patience to train him ❤️
i have permanent scars from
my great pyrenees but she is the sweetest dog in the world she’s just clumsy!! she’s a protective sheepdog, was lunging for another dog, i had her under control but her teeth accidentally hit my leg and i still have a scar six years later. it’s on ME to take care of her. i had control, it was a freak accident, and it wasn’t that bad, but there’s no way she should get put down for that because she wasn’t even trying to hurt anybody! filling out a bite report for that paper cut looking thing was obscene. no dog deserves to be put down over that.
My dog is a rescue. She was abused, the man abused his wife and kids, she was underweight, food aggressive, and wouldn’t bark for the first week or so that I had her. She has straight up MAULED me trying to protect herself or my partner (from me because she was scared even though we were playing) I have gotten bites that I have scars over. But I kept going, kept training her, kept LOVING her, and she is the sweeted thing in the world. I'm not a dog person, but I would never, ever, EVER give her up (or sign this type of paperwork) because of these. She is trained, and she wears a pant-muzzle near new people just in case. A bite report for something like that? They didn't deserve him in the first place, and I know he's a good boy. He'll find someone that loves him and understands him, the way he deserves. Don't lose heart, he'll get there 💞
This is a sign that you need to have him permanently. He clearly feels at home with you. You're his mamma x
Liz probably feels crappy enough about the situation without people commenting telling her to adopt him :(
@@sydneygraham1470...exactly. These comments are filled with this comment...it's not very kind, imo. They have done an amazing thing fostering him helping him get healthy and protecting him, if they haven't chosen to adopt him by now, they have their reasons which they do not need to share with the internet. Every other comment is "I think you should adopt him" . Talk about not just appreciating what she and her bf have done for this pup for the last 5 months.
why CAN'T YOU? ADOPT HIM .....Reason Why Not you?🫶 We Love Zeppelin ❤️
Please stop pressuring her. She probably feels horrible about this whole situation.
@@passionbow1 I live in the UK and work full time so wouldn't be fair. Happy now?
Hopefully you all find him a home where the family knows and respects the dog's boundaries so they can learn and grow with him. Wishing you all and Zeppelin the best with this process moving forward 💜
Please please help this innocent boy. He does not deserve to be put down. That would the most inhumane thing ever. Please take him and help him. He does not have that many years. Their short lives deserve better!!!
I‘m gonna cry too. Thank you for not giving him up.❤
I wish I could adopt him 🥺 he clearly deserves a good home and a happy family 🥺
I adopted a dog who had been returned to the shelter twice because he nipped somebody. When I got him he was like Cujo, but he looked like Benji. People would want to approach when we walked but I would always keep them away from him. He loved me but strangers, to him, meant he had to protect himself. I knew if I returned him they might euthanize him and I couldn’t bear the thought of that. It took him a few years to completely decompress and he ended up being a wonderful dog who loved everybody. I could have company over and no longer have to close him up in the back room. You just have to give them time. He taught me that. Gus was a great lil fella. I miss him almost every day.
Same story with my little Peanut! Thank you so much for sharing this perspective. ❤
My family also has a dog named Gus. How ironic!😊
Same with my sisters new dig. He bit her in the head & several other places. She will not report it bc she doesn't want him to be put down. But he keeps attacking her.
You have inspired me to speak up about mental health at work. I have struggled with orthorexia, have chronic depression and anxiety, and ADHD, and watching how open you are has helped me learn to love myself and lead the charge in mental health discussions with friends and colleagues! Love watching your videos, please never stop being you
This is making me cry
This hurt my heart. I hope Zeppy makes it; I believe it's possible for any living creature to find some semblance of happiness, with the right support.
I've noticed that when my shorkie is around people and especially my ex who I'm talking about. It wasn't this Marley bit him but that Craig startled him with his hand in front of his face and Marley jumped up and my ex pulled his hand back... That caused the small break of skin there was actually no biting done by the shorkie but one would think so.. very very sad you go get that baby and highly doubt it'll happen with you
Sounds like you just need to keep him. You obviously have attachments and commitments ❤
I ended up adopting my dog after she bit someone. Same situation- I fostered her, took her into the shelter and left her for vet care, she bit them (barely a scratch) after that I couldn’t risk her being put down because she was scared. She’s my best friend and while we still have a lot to work on (she still is terrified of vets) she is doing amazing
The people who are surrendering him obviously don’t deserve a dog.
As someone who has helped foster reactive dogs - and from a place of love for both you and Zeppelin - when placing, start really super slow. Visits with you in his space that he's comfortable in. Walks as a group (people he's comfortable with + new people) to solidify his new bonds with new pack members. Visits to his new home with you that result in him going back with you. Visits where he stays somewhere else for a couple of hours at a time before you pick him back up. Transitioning a reactive dog who adjusts really slowly to new people can be a weeks/months process. Hugs to both you and Zeppelin. You can do this, he can do this.
I was looking for this comment, on how long the introduction and transition period was. Getting adjusted to new people and places takes time and trying to do that all at once is stressful all around. The right family will be patient and take the needed time for everyone to get to know each other ❤
Replying so that this gets bumped up
He doesn't understand why he had to be with these strange ppl. Am so sad hearing this .Dogs are so smart and they sense our every emotion. I really pray that you can keep him.
she would've kept him if she could, we all have different situations, she obviously has given the idea much thought already, please stop pressuring her and making it worse and harder for her than it already is, even if you're coming from a good place with good intentions
Why can't she keep him?
@@tini96 she has her reasons, we all have different situations, plus she isn't obliged to do smth
It's tiring to see thousands of ppl suggesting/asking the same thing, Liz has done her best so far and god forbid smth were to happen to Zeppelin, I wouldn't want her to blame herself :/
she's really been doing her best and it's not good to stack up everything on the one kind person in the scenario, she's trying all that she can and everyone insisting the same thing over and over again must be difficult for her considering she obviously has already given the idea much thought and has come to the conclusion that she can't adopt him, we all should be a lil more considerate and understanding of her situation yk
@@Hermionee-Jean-Granger I was just curious. I didn't suggest she should keep zeppelin. Anyways she posts a lot about this so ppl are going to ask
I'm sorry to hear this I hope nothing but the best for your companion. If things have turn for the worst we are about to have puppies. Mom is Saint Bernard and Pitbull dad is straight husky. Feel free to come to the farm and enjoy some puppy love.
He can come stay with me, he would get lots of love!
It truly shows the condition of your beautiful heart when you care for this animal so much. The world needs more people like you💗
Bring him home, darlin ❤
Amazes me that dogs aren't given many chances but we sure them nasty criminals as many chances as possible🤬
The people need to be trained
I hope everything works out well for the furbaby😎🌻🐾💜
Hope you get him in a home that is accepting - I have four dogs and would hate to loose a single one. If you are taking on a rescue dog the new owner needed training to work with the dog, not the other way around.
I think Zeppelin was destined to be yours , please adopt him Liz
Edit : people in the comment section NEED to chill like it's just an opinion, I love dogs and I love Liz's content there's no hate whatsoever . She's a freaking adult and nobody is pressurising her to do anything . This comment section did not pass the vibe check, anyway peace ✌🏻
You do know she probably has thought about but maybe she doesnt want to you know, i dont want to sound rude but there is a reason they are just fostering him.
@@Plantje1999 i completely understand the situation and that's why I have so much respect for people who foster animals, like my emotional ass could never handle that !
@@TraceyAllen but maybe they just dont have time or they work a lot or any other reason they might have. It isnt just it is a good fit so you take a dog it is a lot to consider
I really hope that she does keep him…. She is the best option for HIM 😢❤
@@shell7142 there will be a nice home for him somewhere they just havent found it. I think she already said she is not going to keep him
My dog, the sweetest, most wonderful dog in the world, growled at me the first night she was with us. She was chewing on a bone beside my chair and I dropped my hand down. It scared me, but we forgave her and she's literally my best friend. I hope Zepplin finds a better home with people that will understand him.
Growling is a normal response to dog being threatened and is a GOOD thing. You want a dog to growl. Going right for a bite is not a normal thing and could lead to a very dangerous future. Biting is a normal dogs LAST resort.
@@francesca1870 and so many people ignore whale eyes, lip licking etc. Dogs don't always growl before they bite, especially ones who have been scolded for it, but they definitely tell you they're uncomfortable.
Dude my mom’s cat has bit her like 3 times and she forgave him every single time and let’s him lay in her bed still 😂😂😂 I know that’s not good for her to still let him lay in her bed and proceed to still pet him since cats are way different and not as gentle but dude you don’t file a bite report for a little nip on the finger. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ you file it if the dog angrily bit you and caused real harm. God forbid any dog do that but yk
My dog is also really sweet but has snapped at two people, my niece and my aunt. Both were harassing him at the time so it was his way to get them to stop. He bit my aunts cheek and did make her bleed a bit. My niece has been a few times and just nips. Some time you just have to respect the dogs space.
Reactive biting, which is what Zepplin did, often means that a dog will go straight to biting and will not growl or other warning signs. Biting is the first reaction. That is a very dangerous behavioral issue that needs to be taken really seriously.
That’s so sad he’s so cute and nice, he doesn’t deserve this
These are horrible people that don’t deserve to have a dog.
They don’t seem to understand dogs and how they might feel and communicate either. My dog was rescued after seven years of abuse and bit me twice after I adopted him because I had to pick him up as he was putting himself in a dangerous situation while we were on a walk and I couldn‘t get him out safely otherwise. I wouldn‘t even think about giving him away because of that. He doesn’t like to be picked up, I needed to pick him up, so he didn’t get hurt. He bit because he is severly traumatised. It’s okay. I decided to adopt him although he is difficult to handle, so I pay the price and not him. Besides the scar on my face looks kinda cool actually. And over the years he became the best friend I ever had and to this day he never bit again. I can even pick him up now. He just needed his time and not just weeks. He needed years before I could even pet him. I really don’t understand why people get a dog, especially a rescue dog, when the don’t want to give them the time they need and go with them through the good AND the bad times. Some people really think they just got a new furry object that needs to function
It's so upsetting that the adopters handled things so poorly. I truly hope you keep him as you seem to understand him and what is best for him.
It is upsetting that they got rid of him to another family when he was attached to them, the other family is not the problem.
They didn't handle things poorly. Zep is a sweet dog... who after five months of training bit someone on day one. This video is, at best, being told from the perspective of an unreliable narrator.
The whole point of fostering is to surrender the dog. But after five months, with feelings this strong, the math isn't mathing.
@@thatweirdnoiseintheattic
Why blaming the other family when they are the evil people to abandon him, they are hypocrite.
@@milord9387well..you gotta look at both perspectives here. We don’t know if the family had children or not, and Zeppelin could’ve nipped one of them, or nipped at a guest. If having children were the case, then you have to put your young first, not the dog, you only get one chance with kids, after that, no more. But I do think it is a bit overboard to do a bite report for a nip, but we can’t do anything about it now.
@Iseewater so they don't have to tell internet how kind people should be to take care of this poor dog, if they aren't in the first place, a dog is not a toy so if you have children, you should think carefully before taking a dog, of course they considered him like a toy to throw away, and the worst thing is that they are blaming the other family, when he was already attached to them and not the other family. They are so hypocrite, they take a dog for a toy, throw him away and blame on internet how ashamed should the other family be. This is just awful. Animals are not toys to play with.
Girl you keep him you seem like an amazing person who deserves a dog
I’ll never forget the time when I took my dog for a walk & this older man wouldn’t stop trying to pet him meanwhile he was growling, and I was trying to get him away saying “Haha doesn’t look like he’s in the mood” (Big strong golden retriever😂) He didn’t bite the guy, but he snapped/barked and the guy was like “ooooh that was a close one” Like no shit lol
I've started getting straight up rude 😓 "hey, ask me first, he's doesn't know you" or just "don't touch my dog" works wonders
I've always had dogs in my life. Six total, two passed of old age and my family currently has four.
I was housesitting for family, they had two dogs. One was a rescue with jealousy issues, and the other was anxious. They ended up fighting each other when I got back from a walk (They needed to be walked one at a time) I got bit during the attack and not only did it bleed, it scarred. (Both of the dogs are fine, with only minor injuries)
I knew what I was getting into. It was the first time they fought in three years and I was just unlucky.
I didn't file anything against the dogs and the fact that those people filed a report over a graze is insane to me. I get marks like that from my puppy when she accidentally plays too rough.
if you can't handle anxious dogs, don't get a rescue. If you can't handle little nips, don't get a dog.
Huney, if you can, keep him. He loves you, and feels comfortable around you.
That's so devastating, a family adopting should always be prepared to take things slow and let the animal adjust, it's horrible he's now going to be prejudiced against for a "bite record" and turn away potentially great homes. Thank you for working so hard for him and his right to a happy home❤
Yes, 100% agreed
True but as a parent, I want to be assured that any incident like that is recorded.
One of the things that puts people (especially those who have kids) off rescuing is being unsure of safety. An adult dog has a history. It’s not like getting a puppy. People need the reassurance that an incident like that is recorded and disclosed. Maybe if you don’t have kids you won’t understand.
I’ve been there. I was vegetarian when I was 4, when my family weren’t, it wasn’t fashionable and there weren’t the amazing vegan options there are now. Why? I love animals. And I absolutely think they’re important. But they do NOT even register as important if it’d mean compromising the safety of my kid.
Any history of going past a warning bark to actually biting is important. A lot of animals WOULDN’T be willing to do that, but he did and it should be disclosed. Could you imagine if it weren’t and a family adopted him, he bit their kid, and they then found out about the bite history? The shelter would be sued into oblivion, it’d be a great news item the media would love it. People would be even more reluctant to rescue an animal.
Stop thinking emotionally
@@Sofia-th1fz you are far from correct.
Dogs are animals, not humans. If you put an animal in a position where they feel like they are being threatened, and they communicate that to you but you still continue, they will respond and protect themselves. Be it fight, flight, freeze, or fawn, a dog will respond to feeling threatened.
Bite report are used as a record of the dogs “propensity for violence”. The bite is just used as evidence to suggest that the animal in question has a propensity for violence. Bite reports have levels and depending on the state, the bite victim has responsibility in the situation.
Yes if it’s a dog with a severe and aggressive propensity for violence, that needs to be recorded and handled *but* you don’t know the situation and Zeppelin easily could’ve been trying to grab the toy and their finger got in the way and if this situation was a misunderstanding, having a bite record is extremely detrimental to a dog like Zepplin.
As a concerned parent, you shouldn’t need a bite record to be prepared for the fact that a dog is an animal and if triggered in a specific way they might react negatively. If you have any animal in your home with your children, you should be knowledgeable about how animal behavior works and should act accordingly. Relying on the presence of a bite report to be what tells you about the nature of the dog is irresponsible and even further, assuming that the absence of one means a dog won’t ever act out with aggression is why situations like these occur. The people that have this mindset are always the ones that blame the dog for their own lack of understanding.
So many innocent dogs are put down because people misunderstand the behavior of dogs and like to treat dogs like they aren’t still animals by nature.
Like if someone tried to take a toy from a tiger and it bit them, you’d be like well you were kinda asking for it bc why on gods green earth did you try to take a toy from a tiger. Common sense would tell you that’s a bad idea bc most likely you will get bit.
Rescued dogs are typically more akin to a wild animal than a domesticated animal so trying to take a possession from a rescued dog that youre just getting to know isn’t a wise thing to do. This isn’t an emotional thought, it’s an objective fact.
People really need to stop getting dogs that they aren’t prepared for and then turn around and blame the dog when they do something bad instead of recognizing their own ignorance about how a dog communicates through behavior.
@@Sofia-th1fz more information needs to be taken into account when these bite reports happen! How long he was with owners, age, how it happened, location etc. I have kids. It's likely my son would get nipped my our family elder dog because she has very sensitive hips. If he were to sneak up on her and put pressure she would probably think it was a different dog (she's going blind and is deaf) and snap a little, but not maul anyone. So I teach my kid not to touch her hips, and I don't leave them alone.
This was a brand new dog, he was likely overstimulated and it could've even been a play nip with too much energy. They set him up for failure. And put a permanent record with no context on his life. I've been scratched by a dogs tooth that I got too excited on first meet. I would NEVER fill out a bite report for that. I knew what I was doing incurred risk of small injury.
@@Sofia-th1fz but putting a bite record for that makes the dog seem violent. why adopt a dog who you KNEW had troubles if you had a family with little children? that's on you if your child gets bitten, not the dog.
I am so, so sorry that he got a report for that. I'm very glad you're taking him back and working on helping him manage anxiety better.
Please accept my - our - respect and our good wishes for Zeppelin.
I have a dog who recently got bit by another dog she was bleeding a ton and had to get stitches and we did not file a report. I honestly wish we could this bite it’s not bad at all
He was scared and confused. People who adopt already grown dogs, who have been through a rough patch, must be prepared to give the animal time and space to calm down and get used to the new people and surroundings. I hope Zepellin won't be put down over this and keep my fingers crossed that he will find the right people for him 🤞❤️
Please keep him! He’s already home ❤
I was in tears watching this. He should no be out down he is so adorable and just an amazing dog ❤❤😊
Thank you for everything you do for Zeppelin ❤
Please just adopt him. You know what he needs and he loves you.
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She already made a video about why she couldn’t
Thank you for doing everything for him . I'm so glad he has you all be there for him ❤
My last dog bit me about 10 times. I deserved it based on circumstances. I bit him about 5 times. He deserved it based on circumstances. He passed of old age. I was the only person he was ever nippy towards. It was love
As someone who comes from a family of breeders and trainers (dog show family im not involved nor am i enthusiastic about buying vs rescuing but only saying so can know that its not just rescue dogs who do this) DOGS SOMETIMES BITE. It can be accidental during play time or it can be a fear/trauma response, which can be common in any dog regardless of when you got them or where they came from. Its something to work on and train through and yh sometimes medicate and alter how you interact to reduce the risk (should be altering from the get go until dog is comfortable but at least altering if you see a negative response from them and maybe keeping those adjustments if they have longterm issues) but if it is YOUR DOG then reporting a bite is like reporting your infant for domestic abuse for accidentally hitting you while playing. Its an overreaction and not only damaging to the dogs life but makes you look unbelievably stupid. I hope Zeppelin finds a forever home that can support and love him the way he deserves and that the owner that reported him and surrendered him gets blacklisted because no animal deserves to be treated like that
Honestly the safest option would be for you to keep him and you can clearly tell that you love him
I showed my mom the videos of him and we both agreed that you most likely are the best fit for him. You know how to deal with him and he does trust you and he seems to enjoy you guys a lot
She may be fostering because she can only have dogs temporarily, she shouldn't be shifting her life around because you, your mom and half of her subscribers want to guilt trip her into longterm pet ownership. This is an unfortunate part of foster care, she can't adopt every dog with a sad story. Just like humane societies, sometimes animals are euthanized, just cause you can give them a good home doesn't mean you should over extend yourself.
@@raeechili don’t think anyone’s trying to guilt trip her, it’s just obvious that he has a bond with her and has special needs that she knows how to take care of, and if he were to go to another home where the owner did something silly that stressed him out and he nipped them for it, he could die.
@@biohazardg1rl You're trying to manipulate her behavior, her decision to not keep the dog, with the fact that a dog could die if she doesn't. That is the definition of a guilt trip, trying to manipulate someone's behavior with guilt that something bad is going to happen as a result of their behavior.
@@raeechil girl what i’m not trying to manipulate anyone just trying to explain why people think she should keep him.
@@biohazardg1rl or are you just saying everyone's guilt trip is okay because they're just all unaware of what they're doing? In which case, take accountability when people like me call it out. People are endlessly defending their right to comment their opinion, the majority don't care that they're being manipulative.