The Internet’s Saddest Analog Horror
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i have a request
quatermas the pit the 1950s black and white series/movie
Great video Ryan. I suggest Anything for Jackson next
I'd love to see you cover the miniseries Over The Garden Wall. Great miniseries for halloween
The Eyes of my Mother!!! I watched it the other day and it's the first film in a while that stayed with me long after it finished - not so much an all-out-horror but very disturbing, and I thought it was shot beautifully. Really recommend!
I’d love to see Exorcist 3 or The Possession 2012?
While I don't think the Mandela Catalogue is that scary in of itself, I absolutely adore the concept of Satan and his demons overtaking the Earth by essentially replacement God and His creations. As a Christian myself, the very idea of the Lord you've prayed to and worshipped might not have been the entity you've been talkingnto is haunting and gives me all types of horrifying thoughts.
After reading your comment I thought I'd suggest the the movie Cigarette Burns. It's a Wes Craven Presents movie and might be a little hard to find but I think it might be right up your alley!
@@jondorr4011 That one was an episode of Masters of Horror, it was directed by John Carpenter. My favourite movie of the series, it was really well done.
I’ve gone through evangelical deconstruction and it kind of starts to feel like that. It’s not as much god but realizing that the people around you were misleading you. It’s uncomfy for sure.
Gnosticism be like:
Read some more about what "god" had the Israelites do in the Old Testament, you aren't far off man.
I forgot how young Alex is. This isn't my favourite analogue horror series, but it's existence excites me to see how Alex grows as a creator.
I do think people have meme'd this series to Hell and back for its aesthetics and how it shaped CZcams horror, but people forget Alex was a minor making this. Part of how fascinating it is to watch is seeing him grow his talents and working with others for stuff like the cg. It is seriously impressive and genuinely creepy. Takes me back to the days of Marble Hornets and EverymanHYBRID watching the crews there grow more talented over time.
I mean he himself made a parody of the series on his second channel
The early stuff was literally just bible youtube poop but people acted like it was the scariest thing ever
@@DrunkenErosnot really?? It’s literally a hypothetical in which Satan took over Christianity and we didn’t notice for centuries until it was too late
The Mandela Catalogue touches on so many heavy topics, but the most terrifying one to me is the question:
What if the God you worshipped and prayed to wasn’t the God you believed in?
“Who have I been praying to all this time”
I'm not even religious and that line gave me chills. Just the idea that so much of human history and our modern world has been shaped by organized religion and what if the source of all that was something manipulative and malicious? How can we trust any of the systems we have in place or the moral ideals put forth by those religions? That's more of an interesting concept for horror than the dopplegangers imo and I hope it gets explored more in volume 5.
That is happening right now, actually, with the Abrahamic religions.
@@shinigamiinochi Me and my family don't go to church anymore in a decade for that exact reason actually. So, it's a lot closer to reality than most people think. It's sad as a Christian that actually reads and studies the bible how much misinfo is spread in the church, how many weird religious practices used in church with no grounding in our belief, and extreme egos and narcissism spread throughout, and that's not even all of it. But what's worse is that these churches are really good at making people think that is what all churches should be like and makes everyone else think that is what Christianity is. Not to mention all the churches that actively worship things like themselves, or their cult leader pastor, or even just straight up the devil, yet still claim to be Christian, and their foolish congregation believe them despite their obvious actions.
@@AENockdebatable. You have to make the assumption God is real irl and not everyone believes that
@@alexarias5717 Yahweh was a regional minor god within the Caananite pantheon. The cult of Yahweh absorbed traits of the other gods as they gained influence before the Iron Age. Christians believe they are worshiping El (the white haired old man often depicted in Christendom was the main god) but are worshiping an ancient War/Raiding/Storm god.
God... The shot at 13:07 has lived in my nightmares since i originally saw that video, the choice to simply use a censor bar instead of actually showing anything is brilliant, my mind working to fill in the blanks of what exactly is behind that black rectangle is infinitely more disturbing to me than if they actually decided to showed me something "scary".
you might also really enjoy the movie skinamarink. i have never seen a movie that harnesses the horrors of your own imagination the way that film did.
@@ripwednesdayadams i know this is late but i LOVE that movie too!
i _adore_ the body horror in this series, especially when it's _animated_
seeing the alternates warping their faces right on screen is SO sick, love it love it.
Those images of Thatchers dead partner grinning at him from the darkness were some of the best imagery on the series and they were hella creepy. Gave me chills! X
That face in the dark staring around the corner is scarier than pretty much every horror movie I’ve ever seen.
I kind of like the weird CGI and sets of the later volumes. It reminds me of the Silent Hill movies, where the monsters were made to look artificial to communicate that they didn't belong in our world. I get the feeling that the world of Mandela County belongs to the alternates now, and it's the real people that don't fit.
This is gonna be fantastic, would love to see you look over the Monument Mythos next, an absolute mind fuck of a series.
YES, watch all of Monument Mythos, it's quite a journey.
exactly what I was going to suggest!
Big Crab :)
YES!!!
Its the evangelion of analogue horror
This was one of the most desperate and sad series I’ve ever seen. Beyond cosmic horror’s existential dread of insignificance, the everyday experience of shadows has been one of my most persistent childhood fears, and this series added religious dread to the mix. Watching it after effectively losing any faith I had was fucking terrifying.
I also love where the plot is going rn with what’s happening to Adam
I too am scared of cartoons with youtube poop editing
A lot of analogue horror, I feel, falls into the same trap a lot of kids horror like five nights and Freddy’s and Poppy’s Playtime do: where there’s always this all-encompassing thing that has insurmountable power and it’s only purpose is to mess with you 24/7
It’s like those old horror movies based on animals attacks where you could impale the shark/lion/bear onto a pike and it would willingly impale itself further in the *slimmest* of hopes it could still kill you even if it ensures its death.
It reaches a point where it’s not as scary as it is silly.
Put another way, I dislike a lot of anime villains because it’s common for them to think they have the upper hand and be overconfident because it’s cathartic for the audience to see them be put in their place. But this can backfire and make them just look stupid.
I remember watching the final fight from JoJos part 3 the first time and being pleasantly surprised at how Dio, a man literally declaring himself god, explicitly stated that he needed to be careful around the main protagonist because he was smart enough to realize “this guy could easily murder me”
He still got overconfident and beaten, but he was more believable as a character with agency because he showed the slightest bit of self awareness.
I kind of liked Dave Lee’s death scene. The windmills stopping, followed by the murky sound of the choir getting louder and then suddenly dropping by a half step as light comes through the clouds was creepy. I also just really liked the shot of Gabriel appearing in Dave’s sunglasses. Was it a bit goofy? Yes. But for whatever reason it made me sad seeing our silly little tech store owner dead on the ground.
If you haven’t already, I’d recommend the series “monument mythos.” It is peak analogue horror (in my opinion)
I don´t think we would ever recover Ryan if he goes into "that" rabbit hole
@@CulcoyoteCosmico lol
Is it good? It’s a bit of a nitpick, but I thought all the alliteration in the names of the creatures was super campy. It took me out of the experience
@@biospark4758 well camp is something featured in some of the best of analouge horror. Like, You can’t tell me the Mandela catalouge isnt campy. Imposter angles sent by the devil? Now that’s a bit campy. But I wouldn’t say a little camp is bad. We know cuz the Mandela catalouge is still great even though it has a bit of camp.
Windigoon did an amazing in-depth 2 part series on it!
Fun fact 1: Mark Heathcliff is named after Markiplier.
Fun fact 2: Thorne Baker, also known as Teenage Disaster, and also the actor for Thatcher, was originally discovered by Alex through his short game based on Mandela. Thorne Baker also wrote Thatcher's monologues. This means he is a musician, game developer, actor, and script writer.
cool
That idea of the Mandela Catalogue being about depression is a very interesting theory and I like it a lot! As you said: the characters’ guilt, despair, and pain are given just as much (if not more so) importance as the scary creatures and things happening around them. Plus, I think it gives a sense of realism to the story-a lot of horror films just have the surviving characters focused solely on surviving and being terrified of getting killed, but in Catalogue we see that the survivors also have to deal with the grief of losing people they know. It’s something I hope more horror stories do, since that is more realistic and more human in my opinion.
Now, if you want to see some Analog Horror stories that do what this series does but a bit better, I have a few suggestions:
The GREYLOCK Tapes (honestly, I’d say this is what the Mandela Catalogue should have been).
The Monument Mythos
Midwest Angelica
Winter of ‘83
White Door Opened
The Painter (Heads-up-this one gets *very* dark, even by horror standards, fast).
Ryan thank you for posting this video at the end of a very crappy week. I’m seriously smiling with a cup of coffee in my hand watching your fine work!
Hope you have a better weekend!
Hope things better for you man
@@mandalorianhunter1 thank you so much! Think I’m a rock bottom, but I feel like things will look up soon.
@@RyanHollinger 🙏
@@Pewpewpew182 I know that feeling but their always going to be a rock bottom at some point at your life
I hit rock bottom multiple times in my life, now I'm stagnant but things will get better
I never miss a Ryan Hollinger retrospective video. Especially while using my Ray-Con earbuds thanks to the HOYEVER code.
I love the Mandela Catalogue, even though I still prefer Local 58.
Here are some suggestions for future videos:
- The Frighteners
- The Walten Files
- A short film about a kid with a camera (I forgot the name but it genuinely spooked me when I first saw it)
the video about the kid with a camera could be this one by Brian David Gilbert czcams.com/video/RXZy8BbMz_U/video.html
Do you mean The Kid and the Camera by GrumbledEntertainment? (It’s one of my favorite horror short films)
You’re in luck, he’s already done a video on The Frighteners.
The Frighteners takes me back, thanks for that :)
@@zooweamama5799here’s the link! I just saw it and it was very immersive, I loved it! czcams.com/video/IyhoT3smJEQ/video.html (short horror on kid with the camera)
"The big cheese downstairs" has to be the funniest way I've heard the devil referred to in a long time
This is why it's important to have the conversation with your friends and loved ones about how to spot a doppelganger. For me, I don't like licorice, or dried shredded coconut. If you see me chowing down on those things, IT IS NOT ME. Oh, but don't ever confront the doppelganger either; play along in case I'm still alive and being hidden somewhere. This is basic monster-hunting stuff but you know how schools are these days.
But the real you enjoys those things....
@@RealBradMiller you know too much...
I would like to see Ryan Hollinger do a video on "Brutal Massacre: A Comedy." A funny take on a horror director attempting to regain his former Glory using independent horror filmmaking.
Mandela is a fascinating case to me because it's one of the only ones that I feel actually got worse the more budget it got. Things like giving Gabriel a voice and showing a moving alternate actually made them feel so much more physical that it made them much less interesting and scary. I still like it a lot for other things about it, but specifically the increase in budger I feel made it worse, and that is a bit about it that's very unique to it.
I agree strongly with this: for some reason, the more we got to see physical alternates, the less frightening and unknowable they felt, the more understandable and tangible they became. Stills and implication was so much more frightening to me than the Alternates literally floating at someone.
The alternate coming down like a puppet was cool on paper, but seeing it was just weird.
Which is funny, because the 2d looking faces shouldn't fit either, but they work a lot better.
Exactly. It's not analog anymore.
Analogue was never scary. Just still images with silly faces edited onto them and loud noises
Thank you for mentioning the similarities to tulpas! You're the first reviewer to mention this connection, as soon as I saw that Stanley video I immediately thought of tulpas.
I think my personal favorite standout "analog horror" (although it can only be loosely defined as horror and verges more on pure surrealism) is the "Monument Mythos" series, which takes a lot of analog horror tropes but pushes them to such a radical and bizarre degree that it often teeters between genuinely disturbing and outright comedic.
Monument Mythos doesn't have a lot of analog horror in it, but when it does dip its toe into horror, it's terrifying.
That shot of Freedom leaning down and looking down into the hallway will stay with me for a long time.
I know a lot of analog horror requires that you meet it more than halfway and Mandela Catalogue a little bit more than that, but it scared the crap out of me. Something about the clip of the alternate on the other side of the door sends shivers down my spine and haunts my nightmares.
It’s a perfect mix of home invasion fear and inability to judge just what the invader is capable of that makes it extra scary. The added bit that the cops know and are unable to come help was there cherry on top
Hey! Ryan, would you do pure audio content, like The Magnus Archives? I think the slowly unfolding depths of wrongness of that audio-series would be right up your alley
TMA is so good! I love how it gradually goes from monster of the week to complex, character driven cosmic horror.
“uh oh! bad decision, mark” is STILL funny to me
Even though I don't actively watch the Mandela Catalogue all that much, seeing the dude's alternate at 8:25 always creeped me the hell out, especially the eyes.
It is sad to see someone else not like Mandala Catalog as much as I do. I don’t see the point of the show to be themed along the lines of depression and loneliness but that take is still really interesting and valid. Alex did go on a Q&A and said that people forgot about the MAD symptoms and that they still play a role, a role that hasn’t been revealed yet so when Ryan brought up the MAD symptoms later in the video it really speaks to how much attention Ryan was giving to this series and that’s all I could really ask for. =)
Love the video! The innocence being consumed by evil perspective makes so much sense. I only really learn about Mandela catalogue through others videos on it (like Wendigoon), so hadn't really thought much about innocence in regard to the religious stuff.
Also, I know it's not super important, and I may misremember but I think Dave has been relevant since the start. Like, introduced the same time as Thatcher? Connecting a couple different characters and events.
I am SO happy that you've covered this series. Ever since I first discovered it thanks to Wendigoon's videos it's been one of my favorite pieces of horror media ever. Alex has such a solid grip on horror and story telling at such a young age that I am so excited to see what he does once this series ends. It's so rare in present times to find a horror series that isn't littered with jumpscares. I love seeing horror that focuses more on making you unsettled and uncomfortable and TENSE.
This is the one that scares me Thr most. I watched it once by myself and could NOT sleep for a week, thinking I saw alternates everywhere in Thr shadows 😵💫
this is why i’m no watching it, this is the closest will ever get to it
So psyched to see you check this out !! I love The Mandela Catalogue
I love how you uploaded this and then the same day the series updates. Great timing
It’s incredible that the suspense, ambience and horror that i miss from modern ”mainstream” horror is instead found in these no-budget CZcams productions.
So excited that I clicked on this video so fucking fast. Love you work, Ryan! 💚 Also this is why I love CZcams, it allows individuals to produce their own work without heavy handed editing from a studio.
Omg I've been waiting for you to cover this series!! I've always loved hearing your thoughts. Thank you for this!!
Nothing more satisfying than being early to a new Ryan video!! I’m not feeling well so this is gonna be great to just snuggle up and watch :D
These new thumbnails (since Gemini, just about) are much more striking, so kudos for that!
First "hoyevver" drops at 0:35. We have pleased Him.
I’m so happy you covered this!
Never clicked so fast on a video! Absolutely love your analysis videos! Keep it up man. I hope you can do an analysis on another arg horror like The Walten Files!
Something I truly love about the series is the mix of art in it. We have real life footage, audio manipulation, drawings and animation, puppetry and...well, basically youtube poops 😂
It's clear that a lot of work goes into this series which I respect greatly.
Between this guy and Kane Pixels (both teenagers), being in my mid 30s, the idea of this series being about depression has a crushing irony.
This isn't favorite analogue horror, nor my favorite internet horror media of any other genre, but I LOVE this series as a CZcams series. The progression of skill, the techniques used and the clear earnest labor that went into them, it feels like Old CZcams that continued right along into the modern media environment. I'm super excited to see more from Alex into the future. While he has room to grow (as evidenced by his consistent growth), so much of the creative process and language of film seem to come naturally to him.
If you're interested, I recommend Children Under the Stairs and Urban Spooks's Painter series.
I'd love to see you cover the miniseries Over The Garden Wall. Great miniseries for halloween
Im such a huge fan of this series and so happy you covered it dude! This makes my fricken day
I've been waiting for you to make a video on this!! So excited to check it out! ...But I'll have to wait until morning so the visuals don't scare me too much ^^
Never heard of this movie but I always look forward to your breakdowns, Ryan! You have introduced me to so many different horror movies. Have a great week!
This isn't a movie actually! It's a series of videos here on youtube.
It's a series, it just that the episodes take time to arrive, but when they do it's worth it.
Growing up with a very religious family fond of quoting Revelations, Mandela Catalogue definitely hits an uncanny valley nerve for me, but I really do love the false god scenario the series sets up. Lots of interesting “what if” questions to explore in a universe like that.
Once again, Ryan showing me a review I never would've heard of otherwise. Kudos mate
I remember stumbling onto this late at night and I was shitted up really great stuff loved how it evolved from analogue horror to a more streamlined story feels really cool to see Alex’s work carry on
A new Ryan video! Happy day!
Considering how many videos you already made about analog horror and internet created horror content, I still find it suprising you still haven't covered Emesis Blue. Probably one of the best horror things that came out this year.
With all this talk about doppelganger I really wish to hear your thoughts on Twin Peaks even if it's a true rabbithole
I I've never heard of this movie before, but Ryan Hollinger has sold me on this with in great HOYEVER details.
it's a youtube series! You can watch it for free!
I've been hoping you'd cover this forever!!!!
Great job Ryan love your content 🫶🏽🫡 i always look forward to your uploads💗
Its so insane to me how you cant find MC utterly terrifying, fascinating how different horror tastes can be! 💝💝💝
Damn this was actually scary! I tried watching it last night but had to wait until this morning, the faces really creeped me out. Well done!
Fascinating and personally relatable. And good grief those images are terrifying!
Hey you made a video on this! Beautiful. Always support you and your amazing work brother. From across the seas, I still consider you a friend ❤ our passion for horror is one in the same.
The Mandela Catalogue has lots of potential. Although it doesn't really scare me that much because especially the old videos rely a lot on cheap shock effects that feel very dated. But storywise, it's great and surprisingly deep. The implication that it wasn't god we've been worshipping the whole time and we don't even realize it is quite chilling.
As someone who has dealt with anxiety and depression for years, the helplessness, abandonment and emotional torment of the characters hit me much harder than I expected.
Overall I wouldn't describe The Mandela Catalogue as scary but rather bleak and depressing.
This is hilarious because just yesterday i was looking through your channel to see if you ever made a video about the Mandela Catalogue. I was sad when i didnt find anything. Sure enough i open YT today and bam here it is lmao
I shouldn't be surprised that you listen to Last Podcast on the Left but I was still very excited to see you mention them!
Hail yourself
I've been waiting for this one
Alright Ryan thanks a lot due to that thumbnail and video, i won't be able to sleep tonight. Hope you are happy
Stanford wives and the sixth sense
Even if I'm now familiar with these analog horror series, I always really like hearing other people's takes. Everything is going to hit everyone differently, and what stands out and what doesn't land is going to be different. Definitely the first time I've heard someone draw a conclusion between TMC and Fallen (which is great and hopefully more people watch it, it seems like one of those films that's just sort of disappeared to time)
And Pulse! I rewatch this most Octobers...it's so terrifyingly lonely and bleak
This is, without a doubt, one of my top 10 CZcams channels ever. I could listen to you speak for hours. Have you thought of doing a podcast or any other format where you can expand your opinions?
My favorite part of this series is the different interpretations of the horror elements of people from different backgrounds. The religious aspect is really horrifying to people like Wendigoon, who come from a religious background. People like myself who are more agnostic are bothered by the aspects of loneliness that the alternates create.
shoutout lpotl!! their mothman series is sooooo good. awesome video ryan :)
Thank you for the quality videos:)
"Stole baby Jesus' thunder" 😭😭😭 my new favorite sentence
The episode with adam investigating the house was my favorite
Loved Wendigoon's interview with Alex!!
Thanks for your content
Throwing out a suggestion comment before I watch/possibly forget: recently rewatched Caveat and really enjoyed the ghost story of it, but was left a bit wanting with final impressions and what was actually going on with the central family we meet.
SPOILERS MAYBE??
To me it felt like there was something bigger and more ritualistic going on than just "idk they thought it was amusing" that I was really surprised didn't seem to come up in any of the reviews I could find of it. I'd love to hear your take on this movie if you've seen it and was of interest to you, I definitely came and searched your channel specifically after watching it to see if you had made a video on it! ♥
Really good video, would also recommend the deep dive video by Wendigoon too
This is one of my favorite analog horror series
I’d love to see your take on Lacey games, especially given the current online shift from Analog Horror to Digital Horror!
Would you consider making videos about horror fiction podcasts? Because I think the Magnus archives is right up your alley
The Alternates reminded me of the Not Them from The Magnus Archives; I’d love to know your thoughts on the show when you’re done with it!
Oh god the Not Them is one of the more horrifying creatures in TMA. Gaslighting writ large!
Oh so hyped for this
Gotta love how he drops another video the day you release this 😂
I highly recommend The Monument Mythos, it’s one of the more refreshing and original analog horror series’ on CZcams in my opinion
You should definitely cover Petscop! Its one of my favorites of the genere. Its a long one, but its so worth it!
One of my main problems with analogue horror is the tendency to try and be too smart, too cryptic, too much. There's all these cryptic clues and codes and lore.
Its like Five Nights at Freddy's. I don't think any of those game's are particularly scary. But the first is definitely the most effective. Its just a simple story that plays on the inherent uncanny of animatronic animal mascots while semi humorously commenting on how absurd working on the low rung of the corporate ladder can be. Like why do I need power to keep the doors shut? Why is the power infrastructure so shitty? Why doesn' the company just dispose of these insanely dangerous suits and replace them? Because the path of least resistance and least cost is just to work around the glaring danger. I'm sure we've all worked jobs with some shady stuff going on in regards to safety. Meanwhile the supernatural aspect remains vague and mostly implied.
But every addition to the franchise added more, often contradictory detail to the lore to the point that it ceased to be scary and struggled to even be a coherent narrative.
Analogue horror for me tends to follow the same impulse. Theres always a new threat, more lore, and a web of conspiracy. It can be interesting but its just not scary.
But when I think about the fact that so much of this stuff is made by over ambitious teenagers. It makes me excited to see how they artistically develop.
The Mandela Catalogue is just amazing!
Mandela Catalog makes my skin crawl, absolutely chilling stuff. Some of the newest episodes are a bit clichéd but the early ones are bone chilling.
Probably one of the top 3 best analog horror series in yt.
Ngl, I'm deathly curious of Ryan's thoughts on Beau is Afraid
The Mandela Catalogue broke me.
I'm waiting for Thatcher to do two things: Fight both Gabriel and the Intruder by himself, or barter a deal with the Intruder to fight Gabriel. I'll have to wait to see if my prediction in the next volume... If Alex Kister makes another video about the Mandela Catalogue.
The tragic fate of analog horror, its Citizen Kane (Local 58) came before its main popularity point.
This is gonna be a horrifying experience, thanks for uploading this on my post-birthday week!
Edit: I hate when I write something I miss a word or a letter. hence why I had to edit and rewrite this comment.
I would love to see you cover The Terror season 1 one day!
Finally, was waiting for thos one! I say you sgould try to cober mister manticore!
Yooo Last Podcast on the Left rules!