The Secret Horror Film Made Without Disney's Permission

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  • @RyanHollinger
    @RyanHollinger  Před rokem +52

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      How about a review of 'Nope'?

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      Can you do a review of as above so below (a film taking place in my country :D)

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      @williamoldham7601 Před rokem +7

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    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 Před rokem +6

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    • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
      @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Před rokem +3

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  • @thomasdegroat6039
    @thomasdegroat6039 Před rokem +1637

    So funny how the whole marketing around this film was "watch this before Disney sues it out of existence!" and then Disney just ended up not caring in the slightest

    • @joshkaid
      @joshkaid Před rokem +196

      Which was kind of genius on Disney's part. Because if your marketing is "Disney doesn't want you to see this!" and then Disney makes it clear they don't care if you see it? Then the movie loses.

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin Před rokem +68

      @@joshkaid
      It’s because the seemingly great idea he had, the film is annoying, and boring at times, with the Disney part, having little to do with anything.

    • @groofay
      @groofay Před rokem +77

      They were counting SO hard on the free marketing, and it's honestly surprising that Disney didn't fall for it considering how overprotective and litigious they are over their IPs.

    • @darkmyro
      @darkmyro Před rokem +41

      ​@@CorbCorbinyeah I think Disney had the foresight to say oh this is a terrible movie and now the movie's claim to fame is that movie where they filmed illegally in the Disney Parks.

    • @stephensmith7327
      @stephensmith7327 Před rokem +16

      And when that failed they started stealing the monetization of reviews of Escape from Tomorrow

  • @kmjl93
    @kmjl93 Před rokem +798

    To be fair, having to wait in the long lines in the hot Florida sun with screaming kids everywhere is a horror piece on its own.

    • @cannibalisticrequiem
      @cannibalisticrequiem Před rokem +14

      Eh, sure, but you can easily schedule your trip during a time of the year when it's not hotter than Satan's ballsack and not that crowded with tourists. Or just don't go. That's always an option.

    • @kmjl93
      @kmjl93 Před rokem +10

      @@cannibalisticrequiem The only time I’ve ever found the best is about the second or third week in January. It only gets to about 85 F at the highest and it’s a lot less crowded.

    • @thenymphomancer5592
      @thenymphomancer5592 Před rokem +10

      More torture porn in that one sentence than the whole screenplay of Saw

    • @KingOfGaymes
      @KingOfGaymes Před rokem +8

      @@cannibalisticrequiemDisney is never not covered in tourists, dude. It’s also in FLORIDA, it’s never not scorching there

  • @darkninjafirefox
    @darkninjafirefox Před rokem +831

    What a cool movie this could be if it was from the kid's perspectives. A seemingly magical day out with your family slowly unraveling into a resentful nightmare of a day out as you realize your parents are not only not enjoying themselves but are becoming angrier and angrier with each other until it bubbles over onto you. The park morphing into a frightening and unwelcoming place

    • @gleebybooer
      @gleebybooer Před rokem +85

      I agree - think of the real life horror of being a child when one of your parents is abusive - you know something about them or the way they are treating you isn’t quite right, but as a child you dont know why. This film could have tackled this from the child’s lens and how a fun day at the park contrasts with looming anxiety created from the parent. But it ends up being vague horror garbage.

    • @daithiodonnell2825
      @daithiodonnell2825 Před rokem +26

      Right, there's a great concept buried in the pitch and this movie absolutely fails it.

    • @steampunkmage9073
      @steampunkmage9073 Před rokem +11

      Sounds like something that would happen in a RL Stine Horrorland book

    • @tacbot89
      @tacbot89 Před rokem +6

      I like this idea, it would have been better.

    • @hansjavis5854
      @hansjavis5854 Před rokem +2

      Sounds like a normal summer vacation to me.

  • @_The_Archive_
    @_The_Archive_ Před rokem +1070

    Fun Fact: Director Randy Moore had the actors ride through the "It's a Small World" attraction 12 times to get one scene right.

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 Před rokem +95

      Oh good lord 😭 that song was probably engraved in there heads I can imagine.

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 Před rokem +31

      It’s a small world after all 🎵🔊

    • @zedc6072
      @zedc6072 Před rokem +66

      cruel and unusual

    • @paultapping9510
      @paultapping9510 Před rokem +6

      that was also a skit in the Simpsons wasn't it?

    • @abbie_joan
      @abbie_joan Před rokem +14

      well that song does induce anger and violence... it's perfect to get into the right mindset for filming a horror movie

  • @W0lfenstrike
    @W0lfenstrike Před rokem +103

    This movie kind of reeks of "edgy pretentiousness", with the only thing going on being "look guys look! Disney's lawyers are just standing there... MENACINGLY!".

    • @evandaymon8303
      @evandaymon8303 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Which they been banking on that and marketing the film as the film disney wont let you see and “greatest” guerrilla film ever made
      Disney made a right call to not give randy his marketing push and bringing in the striesand effect that he craved
      Although randy in turn was a hypocrite and blocked many reviews of his film which in turn guaranteed no one will ever give a fuck about him and the film.
      Especially when lets be honest what the fuck is wrong with him writing the character having a fixation on those two girls who wife said they are bit younger then he is. Like wtf

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před rokem +502

    Ryan's retrospective review of "Escape from Tomorrow" is more entertaining than the movie itself.

    • @rct3isepic
      @rct3isepic Před 11 měsíci +10

      So is Tony Goldmark's review. If you've never seen it I highly recommend it

    • @joshuaball5916
      @joshuaball5916 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Yeah, and much better than Garret's review.

  • @thevblog
    @thevblog Před rokem +110

    It’s wild that Randy Moore had a rubbish family holiday at Disneyland and decided it to make it all our problem.

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Před 11 měsíci +12

      In interviews he also wanted to make a point that we knew it was also rooted in his daddy issues.

    • @user-kw7mr6xt9n
      @user-kw7mr6xt9n Před 7 měsíci +13

      ​@@bigbearkat2010men will do anything except go to therapy: the movie!

    • @EdindroWhitehall
      @EdindroWhitehall Před 7 měsíci +3

      I'm filled with the sudden urge to hate other people's happiness!

    • @user-lb9xw4xf2q
      @user-lb9xw4xf2q Před 6 měsíci +6

      "You don't get, man! Look at all those sheeple! I bet I'm not the only guy who creepily lusted over the Disney Princesses while on a lame family trip!"

  • @SteveElOtaku
    @SteveElOtaku Před rokem +371

    I feel like Disney probably watched the film, realized it was mostly a self-important student film about how "Local Man Hates Amusement Parks And His Wife" and just let it die, leaving it to be picked over by video essayists years later. Nothing more punishing for a man demanding attention to be utterly denied it.

    • @TimedRevolver
      @TimedRevolver Před 9 měsíci +5

      Wouldn't be surprised if Disney higher ups watch this every so often and just laugh at how they entirely ruined any publicity the film might have had by not saying anything at all about it.

  • @WhaleManMan
    @WhaleManMan Před rokem +693

    Fun Fact: This is this directors only film.
    He entered the film world just to spite Disney in an edgy way and was like "Yep, that's it. No need to follow that up."

    • @seasonembrace3624
      @seasonembrace3624 Před rokem +55

      Wow real mature grown man eh?

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid Před rokem +29

      Absolute legend

    • @Albinojackrussel
      @Albinojackrussel Před rokem +52

      This actually raises my opinion of him. Admittedly my opinion couldn't really get any lower but still

    • @Albinojackrussel
      @Albinojackrussel Před rokem +5

      This actually raises my opinion of him. Admittedly my opinion couldn't really get any lower but still

    • @stephensmith7327
      @stephensmith7327 Před rokem +30

      ​​@@SpoopySquido, that would be Tony Goldmark who made an entire CZcams series using this same gimmick for several years. He now makes a podcast reviewing random Disney Pluss content. I wouldn't call him a shill though considering he's very vocal about Disney's actual faults.

  • @clarkmichaels822
    @clarkmichaels822 Před rokem +106

    Disney absolutely made the right move with ignoring this movie. Not only did it prevent the Streisand Effect but by letting people see for themselves how terrible it was, it killed all hype about itself.

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Před 11 měsíci +15

      And the dude kind of became what he claimed to hate by putting copyright strikes on people that reviewed his movie

  • @ConnorNotyerbidness
    @ConnorNotyerbidness Před rokem +226

    Someone on Some Jerk With a Cameras review of it called it “softcore porn for people who hate themselves” and i think thats the most accurate description of this
    Also randy moore “lives in fear of getting sued by disney” but when he did review it Some Jerk noted that disney, in ALL his many years of reviewing their parks, rides, and films, had never Once sent him a copyright strike
    Randy Moore sent him Two

  • @somecanadiangirl1
    @somecanadiangirl1 Před rokem +16

    The entire movie could just been him lookin at the camera and saying "have you considered...Disney bad" and it would've said more and said it more subtlety

  • @Darkthestral1
    @Darkthestral1 Před rokem +319

    The fact that Randy thought Jim was likable is still baffling. It's an intetesting read on the film even if you have to disregard most of Randy's own intentions to get there. Death of the author ect

    • @TheMadAfrican1
      @TheMadAfrican1 Před rokem +52

      Man, the director and the lead actor are so messed up. They think he's this likable everyman. But instead he's basically a sex offender stalking two underage girls for half the film. This film is just... so much ick. And not like fun, intentional ick. Like the ick that a sex offender would make thinking everyone thinks the same.

    • @Darkthestral1
      @Darkthestral1 Před rokem +38

      @@TheMadAfrican1 yeeeep... And the wife comments that the girls are "a little young Jim. Even for you." at one point so Disney is definetly not responsible for that part of his behavior

    • @orbglorb-zingalorg
      @orbglorb-zingalorg Před rokem +1

      etc.*

    • @trippjohnson7393
      @trippjohnson7393 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Randy may have some issues with women...

  • @danielaxc2900
    @danielaxc2900 Před rokem +379

    My favorite part of this movie was when Jenny Nicholson made a brutal takedown about it and also delved into Randy Moores odd quirks. But yeah, this movie is not what I'd consider Lynchian or surreal. It just seems pretentious and cynical, which is a bummer since it seems like it had real potential based on the premise.

    • @meowmeowfuzzyface3698
      @meowmeowfuzzyface3698 Před rokem +20

      Her video is great!

    • @friday13thirteen
      @friday13thirteen Před rokem +1

      😡 my mortal enemy, that fraud randy moore 😡

    • @aceorb1996
      @aceorb1996 Před rokem +15

      Yes, this. Her video is hilarious and amazing!

    • @stephaniemyles8068
      @stephaniemyles8068 Před rokem

      You mean that fraud, Randy Moore?

    • @BlankPageEmperor1334
      @BlankPageEmperor1334 Před rokem +25

      I've watched Jenny's video about three or four times since it released, and I almost skipped Ryan's as a result. Not because I didn't want to hear what he had to say about it, but simply because Jenny skewered the film so thoroughly for me, that I can't imagine anyone taking it seriously. Bless Ryan for trying I guess?

  • @kellydavis3219
    @kellydavis3219 Před rokem +46

    One of the weirdest things about Randy you get from listening to interviews with him is how much he genuinely believes that stupid old rumor that the giant turkey legs are really emu, he has the witch lady bring it up because it's wholeheartedly what he believes

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Wait, really? He really believes that?
      I never get conspiracy theorists. Most of their theories unravel as soon as you pull on one of the loose threads hanging out.

    • @theghostofyankeejim
      @theghostofyankeejim Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@animeotaku307 There's an analogy I learned of that I think of when discussing how a conspiracy theory propagates, and the basic summary is picturing the belief as the base of a table, and pieces of evidence as the legs. A table needs a strong foundation to be sturdy, to be considered a table. In some instances it turns out these legs just _aren't there,_ that this table has no legs to stand on and thus stops being a table, but when people become emotionally invested in believing something to be true, they will work backwards, insisting that these unsubstantiated claims are indeed real legs, and this is not a plank of wood with nothing to support it, but a real, honest-to-god table. All of these claims are completely interchangeable with eachother, you take one of the legs away and they just put another one in its place, having a theoretically infinite amount of baseless justifications for their beliefs. They become so invested in believing something to be true, that it becomes harder and harder for them to admit they were wrong.

  • @nicholaspeters9919
    @nicholaspeters9919 Před rokem +191

    Figures that a creepypasta has a more interesting, consistent, and in depth subversion of Disney than a movie clearly doing it to get attention as opposed to really saying anything.

    • @kellydavis3219
      @kellydavis3219 Před rokem +9

      God yes, Abandoned by Disney all the way man

    • @MSinistrari
      @MSinistrari Před rokem +8

      @@kellydavis3219 I'd love to see a film adaptation of Abandoned by Disney.

    • @kellydavis3219
      @kellydavis3219 Před rokem +7

      @@MSinistrari or of Room Zero
      "Shut the door, dear, you're letting out the cold."

    • @trekie140
      @trekie140 Před rokem +1

      I personally didn’t care for Abandoned by Disney, but I weirdly enjoyed I Was Visited By the Disney Legal Team.

    • @fbmb1337
      @fbmb1337 Před rokem +1

      And ironically both authors kinda come off as tools if you don't see their work as anything but great. Slimebeast's work IS better than this though, I'll give him that much.

  • @heymistercarter.
    @heymistercarter. Před rokem +185

    It's amazing how the image of the guy with cat eyes on the thumbnail of this video is by far the scariest thing in this entire "Horror" movie. It's a shame too, because this movie had potential to be something amazing, especially with the right script involved.

    • @stephensmith7327
      @stephensmith7327 Před rokem +4

      And then you imagine the outro to Thriller playing over it. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • @hansjavis5854
      @hansjavis5854 Před rokem +4

      I don’t know man. That scene of Epcot rolling towards the audience hit me with extreme fear. I hated stationary Epcot ball and a rolling one is sheer nightmare fuel.

    • @nymphohalo
      @nymphohalo Před 11 měsíci

      I swear to God

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Před 11 měsíci +1

      There is a short horror movie that was filmed on the Haunted Mansion ride that's pretty decent. It was also done in a guerrilla style
      I think I remember someone trying to do a full-length movie similar to this one, but apparently the guy stopped because it was annoying having to re-shoot scenes on the rides by waiting in line every time he needed to re-shoot scenes. I think he said that 20 seconds of footage would require a full day of work.

  • @megans343
    @megans343 Před rokem +42

    I sort of get the idea of the gimmick - however I can’t help but think running through the park disrupting the days of people just trying to spend the day with their families and taking up a disability seat specifically to put an actor in to make fun of people using them feels kind of scummy

  • @yupitsjessbbyx3
    @yupitsjessbbyx3 Před rokem +79

    I’m shocked you managed to describe this movie as a movie at all because when I watched it I distinctly remember it just being absolute shit

  • @cometoviddy
    @cometoviddy Před rokem +64

    I think you’re giving it more credit than it deserves

  • @AkiVainio
    @AkiVainio Před rokem +80

    There's a history with Disney, where they don't call out certain copyright infringements, when they feel that it would just bring more unwanted attention to the product. This is risky, though, as you have to protect your copyrights to keep them, but that's a risk they have taken in the past as well. There's a documentary on this, but I can't remember it's name right now.

    • @benjaminsmith3843
      @benjaminsmith3843 Před rokem +11

      You have to protect trademarks to keep them, not copyright.

  • @emilybroderick2421
    @emilybroderick2421 Před rokem +175

    I think this video and Jenny Nicholson's are the most press this film has received since the year it came out. And that's for the best

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před rokem +9

      Some Jerk With a Camera also did a review of the film years ago.

    • @NukaCola514
      @NukaCola514 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Jay from RLM did a short review but his thoughts on it pretty much mirror everyone elses

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Před 11 měsíci +2

      It's easy to forget, but I remember this film actually getting a ton of press for a while when it was released. It was definitely talked about and promoted a decent amount long before Jenny made her video.
      The problem was that, like, so was the guy who got his pecker chopped off by his angry wife while he was sleeping. There's a lot of things that get a ton of press but the press just doesn't lead to anything substantial so those stories kinda get forgotten.
      The movie wasn't all that easy to find, and couldn't really be sold or distributed. So, people would hear about this movie and just not be able to watch it, which is why the actual film hasn't been seen by a lot of people even though most people are aware on some level of a horror movie that was secretly filmed at Disneyland.

    • @witchingbrew3
      @witchingbrew3 Před 11 měsíci

      That and the band New Years Day raved about it during the release. I remember they constantly talked about it on Instagram.

  • @KhanCrete
    @KhanCrete Před rokem +43

    lmao my parents took me and my brother to disney as our last family vacation before announcing their divorce, there really is something to parents seeing disney as a way to give their kids nice memories right before a marriage fails

    • @sammSTAR716
      @sammSTAR716 Před rokem +5

      Lmfaooooo mine did too and it doubled as my first ever trip too 🥴😂

    • @wajmgirl
      @wajmgirl Před 10 měsíci +2

      My dad did it before telling us he had cancer

    • @0_dearghealach_083
      @0_dearghealach_083 Před 4 měsíci +2

      "Welcome to Disneyland! Screw you, here's some real life tragedy. Now go buy a Mickey hat."

  • @oneinathousand2156
    @oneinathousand2156 Před rokem +85

    This is one of those rare times where I can probably say that there’s Creepypastas that are scarier than this.

    • @hawkticus_history_corner
      @hawkticus_history_corner Před rokem +7

      I know for a fact there are. Hell, the original Disney creepypasta is way better than this.
      It's at least tonally consistent

  • @unicornalq11
    @unicornalq11 Před rokem +468

    Imo there’s so many actual things that we can and should criticize Disney for. The treatment and low pay of workers. The attacks on smaller creators, etc. I feel like Randy, in addition to making what is in my opinion a bad movie, glosses over actual problems with the corporation and just focuses on…things that probably were just mildly annoying to him when he went with his family (weird food, pushy employees, and uh…his kind of gross fixation on overweight guests using mobility aids…) it just feels so “I’m 12 and this is edgy.”

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před rokem +73

      The closest he gets to legitimate criticism is the whole “the Disney Princesses are escorts” part, but with how women in the film are treated overall it just feels like a random conspiracy instead of any real critique.

    • @oxymoron02
      @oxymoron02 Před rokem +21

      Absolutely agree. If he set out to make a critique on Disney's corporate practises, he failed.

    • @unicornalq11
      @unicornalq11 Před rokem +48

      @@animeotaku307 Honestly as a florida resident and as a young woman who does musical theatre that whole conspiracy never flew with me because I KNOW so many women who were princess performers. I would have applied myself but I’m an inch too tall lol

    • @groofay
      @groofay Před rokem +20

      @@animeotaku307 I haven't seen the movie nor will I, but that leads me to wonder if the framing is to posit a conspiracy/critique about Disney, or to shame sex work. Or both, could be both.

    • @unicornalq11
      @unicornalq11 Před rokem +8

      @@groofay in all fairness to randy, I doubt he wanted to shame sex workers, it was less of the conservative moral panic variant and more of the moderate liberal “WOAH ISNT THAT WHACKY?!!!” variant

  • @spicybeantofu
    @spicybeantofu Před rokem +65

    I feel you've given this movie too much credit.

  • @shannonjackson9778
    @shannonjackson9778 Před rokem +33

    Genuinely shocked you were able to make this sound like a movie that had any real thought put into it. Can't wait to see what you review next!

  • @pcareo-dactyl3327
    @pcareo-dactyl3327 Před rokem +14

    Damn, the one time someone was relying on the Streisand effect, Disney actually managed to keep their toys in their pram

  • @VidWatcher01
    @VidWatcher01 Před rokem +14

    My coworker was there one of the days they were filming & she said as the main dude running around looking bothered & confused her dad was going to check & see if he was okay but he saw the camera filming around him & decided against it. Good thing he did

  • @deltavictor8369
    @deltavictor8369 Před rokem +77

    Jenny Nicholson's video on this on ("Escape from Tomorrow is a dumb exercise in misery") is a good watch for another perspective on the film

    • @doodlebrain6594
      @doodlebrain6594 Před 11 měsíci +2

      She goes a lot into it’s production and creator intent

  • @bitnewt
    @bitnewt Před 11 měsíci +10

    This was totally unexpected, but I love that you manage to eek meaning out of even infamously disliked films. Fascinatingly, I heard that in an interview the lead actor believed he was acting in a comedy.

  • @ImDudeRandom90
    @ImDudeRandom90 Před rokem +16

    If the word "pretentious" was a film.

  • @insertgenericusernamehere2402

    Would recommend berberian sound studio, about a foley artist who goes to work on horror movies and his mind slowly begins to deteriorate. It's really criminally underrated

  • @Lunar_Spell
    @Lunar_Spell Před rokem +10

    The devil works hard, but Ryan trying to give this movie substance works harder.

  • @Nuked519
    @Nuked519 Před rokem +13

    The idea of a surreal horror movie set in a happy cheery theme park is such a good idea that it makes the mediocrity of the actual product stand out so much more.

  • @WetSocksEntertainment
    @WetSocksEntertainment Před rokem +21

    As an IP attorney Disney did the smartest thing when it comes to there intellectual property rights. It would hurt them more to actually engage with this movie. Might as well let them be in obscurity. Great video.

  • @diehard7517
    @diehard7517 Před rokem +29

    I remember watching Some Jerk With a Camera's review of this movie and he...didn't have a lot of good things to say about it. Isn't it that strange film that tried to spread a bunch of debunked conspiracy theories about Disneyland? Like that their chicken legs are actually emu? Man, even listening to someone trying to make sense of it makes me feel like i'm in a fever dream.

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 Před rokem +53

    I remember hearing about this movie and looking it up on Wikipedia years ago.
    Never watched the movie, but from the wiki and pictures alone, it felt so fucking surreal.

  • @josephbroseph3003
    @josephbroseph3003 Před rokem +21

    I wanna see this concept and these ideas done by a more competent director. Wouldn’t even have to be “about” Disney or take place at a Disney park. A Lynchian story about a depressed dad and/or mom trying to take their kids out for a family vacation while their lives fall apart and their insecurities come to the surface sounds like it would be a good movie.

  • @blackjack0202
    @blackjack0202 Před rokem +20

    This is definitely one of those movies that is more “fascinating” than “good”. I watched it on netflix years ago and it definitely has a place in my memory but I doubt would ever watch it again.

  • @tnbocon
    @tnbocon Před rokem +22

    I don't think you've done the 1977 Japanese unique horror movie "House" yet... That's a must review, and great to get that movie more exposure to your audience. Won't disappoint!!!

  • @noahjohnson5603
    @noahjohnson5603 Před rokem +7

    I think _Escape from Tomorrow_ honestly falls flat because it’s so… basic in its execution.
    The guerrilla style filming is probably the most unique thing about the film, because other than that it just falls into the generic _Disney is actually Evil and Dark and Bad and Oh, isn’t it scary just how Edgy and Scary the whole thing is?_ trope and carries about as much depth as a kiddie pool.
    I’m also not very fond of completely hopeless endings. Subverting Jim’s initial character from just a frustrated father down on his luck to being a scumbag is fine, but him dying at the end after his rescuing of his daughter and breaking away from the spell really rubs me the wrong way, even though it displays the only real unsettling image in the entire film.

  • @andieallison6792
    @andieallison6792 Před rokem +26

    Jenny Nicholson has a great video about this "film" and how creepy it is lol

  • @deigning
    @deigning Před rokem +3

    Ryan Hollinger really said "never a bad time to rewatch that one Jenny Nicholson video and by inevitable consequence every single one of her other videos" RIP my night

  • @toyotatacoma1616
    @toyotatacoma1616 Před rokem +14

    This movie is- well, guilty pleasure is the wrong word, I don’t enjoy it on its own- some kind of ironic masterpiece to me. It’s so self-satisfied and stupid, but entertaining like an old MST3K movie. It’s incredibly fun to subject your friends to a film like this.

  • @kimotee5892
    @kimotee5892 Před rokem +20

    Another film I have never heard of before or would have thought to watch added to the watch list. Thanks Ryan for giving consistent quality and really reinvigorating my love and exploration of the genre!!

  • @Ani-rq7wv
    @Ani-rq7wv Před rokem +14

    Honestly? A someone who has been to Disney land a few times, I can’t remember a trip where there weren’t fights amongst my family. Possibly the first trip when I was like 5 or 6. I defiantly have many extremely happy memories there, but there’s often this underlying current of “this happened just before/after a fight.” This movie reminds me of the people who insist that Disney uses pheromones or subliminal psychology to “force” people to be happy. There’s this idea that Disney is sinister and in trying to force happiness is somehow abusing or manipulating it’s guests. When what it comes down, imo, is that when you have family issues during vacation it feels extra shitty. There are so many valid critiques of Disney parks and the brand as a whole, but this one just doesn’t work for me.

    • @justacrittic1578
      @justacrittic1578 Před rokem +1

      I mean disney is very obviously using subliminal psychology to affect the attendees through extreme control of the parks environment. It's not mind control or anything but small manipulations of the surroundings to maintain the "happiest place on earth" look.
      But there's also other factors that lead to these fights such as the expectation of happiness, bottling up emotions for the sake of making a "good family trip" as well as because you've spent a lot of money to be there, like this vacation is gonna fix those problems. When these expectations fall apart they make whatever problems erupt. Then you also just got other irritations such as high prices on food/souvenires, long lines, and warm weather, which doesn't make things easier.

    • @atanaspetkov580
      @atanaspetkov580 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Honestly, I think that the biggest problem with this theory is that it forgets that a lot people are really good at masking their emotions. You can probably find thousands of people who saw their parents dramatically change their behavior when entering or exiting public settings.

  • @dravenlee5524
    @dravenlee5524 Před rokem +13

    So one horror series I think you should do a video on that NEVER gets any love, despite being very similar to Terrifier is ‘Hatchet’. The Hatchet series is such a fun turn off your brain film series that never gets enough love. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it, honestly.

  • @lupeylycan
    @lupeylycan Před rokem +4

    theres something so hilariously embarrassing about building your entire marketing off of how youre doing something that could easy piss off a major company and then your product being so absolutely nothing that even said company wont even sneeze in your direction because who cares

  • @MrSadisticLlama
    @MrSadisticLlama Před rokem +4

    One of the rare times where the Cooperation gets a well deserved W. Giving the director nothing of what he wanted and made him not a Martyr, but a thing you would just shrug and walk away from.

    • @bigbearkat2010
      @bigbearkat2010 Před 11 měsíci +2

      And even people that hate Disney on principle just seem to accept the movie is a pretentious turd and the director is a wannabe edgelord with the nuance of the goth kids from South Park

    • @aacsmiles
      @aacsmiles Před 5 měsíci +1

      Randy thinks he’s the prophet writing on subway walls when really, he’s the guy you glance at in Walmart.

  • @KeyBladeMaster-Dan
    @KeyBladeMaster-Dan Před rokem +62

    God I remember when Jenny Nicholson reviewed this POS years ago that was a funny vid 😂

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před rokem +10

    I remember hearing about this movie on "Some Jerk With a Camera." It had an interesting permission until it fell apart near the end.

  • @LincINTL1
    @LincINTL1 Před rokem +21

    Can you please review As Above So Below? It’s about a group of explorers and archaeologists venturing into the Paris Catacombs and eventually they travel so deep into it they end up in Hell. If you haven’t seen it already I think you might find it interesting

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před rokem +4

      I remember Ryan mentioning it in his review of The Pyramid. He had some positive things to say about it.
      Then again, he was also reviewing The Pyramid. Anything would have been better.

  • @GSEagle85
    @GSEagle85 Před rokem +2

    I don’t usually take reviews to heart but the one I saw stuck with me about the movie and I’ll paraphrase it, ‘how the movie was made is more interesting than the movie itself.’

  • @BigBZ41
    @BigBZ41 Před rokem +7

    Ryan! Please review “Stay Alive” a 2006 Horror film that is Technically a Disney Slasher film. “If you die in the game, you die for real”

  • @meowmeowfuzzyface3698
    @meowmeowfuzzyface3698 Před rokem +20

    I remember watching Jenny Nicholson talk about this movie. She showed multiple interviews from the director(?) and he kept repeating the same shit over and over and over to promote the movie. It came off as so pretentious when the film itself lacks any nuance.

  • @TheDeliciousMystery
    @TheDeliciousMystery Před rokem +7

    I remember this doing the rounds when i was back in Uni and it was treated like some mythical underground thing sticking it to the man. By people that never saw it. Anyone that did just kind of shrugged it off as pure marketing covering something that feels like the sort of film tim and eric would have made a fake trailer for back in the day.

  • @v1olante
    @v1olante Před rokem +9

    I'd love to see Ryan cover 'Melancholia'

  • @yokaitoybox7649
    @yokaitoybox7649 Před 11 měsíci +2

    To this movie's credit, it did achieve one thing. It made Jenny Nicholson the most angry I've ever seen her, by a mile.

  • @Kaylakaze
    @Kaylakaze Před rokem +4

    I hate it when movies have a good concept that gets ruined by bad writing, directing, and acting.

  • @mandodiaz7647
    @mandodiaz7647 Před rokem +3

    There's a line in the film that always stuck with me. The lady Jim talks to reveals that they aren't eating turkey legs, and it's actually emu legs that Disney buys. Because emu legs are larger.

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před rokem +11

      Except, as Tony Goldmark broke down in his video on the film, it falls apart when you calculate how many emu would have to be farmed in order to sustain the approximately 1.6 million turkey legs sold every year.

  • @m.h.daniels9091
    @m.h.daniels9091 Před rokem +2

    Jenny Nicolson's breakdown on this was also brilliant.
    Would love to see a video on Audition or Ichi the Killer

  • @thesphd1433
    @thesphd1433 Před rokem +4

    Ryan: this movie ultimately is ok, nothing stellar though.
    Also Ryan: proceeds to relay an in depth interpretation of the movies plot and visuals which in turn makes it ironically intriguing 😅

  • @v1olante
    @v1olante Před rokem +4

    Always so good to see another video from Ryan and learn about new movies

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 Před rokem +4

    Yeah, my take on this movie is almost exactly the same as yours. It feels like it should have been so much better than it actually was, but it was just too scattershot. Individual moments and images work, but as a film, it puffs itself up but then deflates like a ruined souffle.

  • @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose
    @DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose Před rokem +4

    Escape from Tomorrow: The secret horror film made without Disney's permission, emphasis on SECRET.
    Ryan, writing up his essay for it: *HOYEVER.*

  • @jacob-ll3mz
    @jacob-ll3mz Před rokem +3

    day just got about 10x better, cheers ryan

  • @allegedlyfalse6779
    @allegedlyfalse6779 Před rokem +2

    Ryan seems like the kind of guy who'd examine "Plan 9 From Outer Space" like it was "The Shining".
    Honestly expected this comments section to be filled with defenders of this movie, but it seems to be just people dumping on it.

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před rokem

      I think it might be because the whole “the movie Disney doesn’t want you to see!” overhyped it, so when people actually saw it they were even more disappointed. Surreal post-modern stuff doesn’t get a lot of people interested and the people who are interested are usually looking for a point to it. And this film, by the director’s own admission, didn’t have much of one.

  • @gee7893
    @gee7893 Před rokem +1

    oh my god one of my friends brought this to bad movie night... we were all just baffled with it! thank you for reminding me of its existence, ryan! I'm sending this to my group for a walk down the most insane memory lane

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 Před rokem +3

    From the title i almost thought it was going to be Return to Oz

  • @leonardorlikowski8844
    @leonardorlikowski8844 Před rokem +5

    Going off this review, the spoiler section specifically, it feels like the movie isn't as deep as it thinks it is. All it seems to be saying is "the happiest place on earth isn't that happy". It's just a very surface level critique of Disney.

  • @GreysonMacAllister
    @GreysonMacAllister Před rokem +4

    Disney is actually said more than once because the main character at one point name checks Disney World

  • @BestCupid
    @BestCupid Před rokem

    As someone who has family that goes to Disney california alot , this feels so surreal seeing a surreal horror using the park families go to consistently

  • @xboxcomputer
    @xboxcomputer Před 11 měsíci +1

    You should cover the video game Until Dawn or The Quarry. They're interactive horror movies essentially. I find them really interesting and you've covered video games in the past, so it isn't much of a stretch.

  • @duvan.deschain
    @duvan.deschain Před rokem +2

    So, basically, this is one of those films where a remake would make a lot of sense. The premise is quite interesting, but of course the talent behind and in front of the camera was not up to part. I know that those who have watched it basically call it pretentious and just... bad, but you made so many interesting points about it that I feel it's a film that deserves some credit. Imagine someone like Ari Aster or Mike Flanagan remaking it...
    As always, really cool to hear your thoughts on an obscure horror film.

  • @ScarletSerenade
    @ScarletSerenade Před rokem +1

    “Oh shit, you want me to explain that.” 😂
    You have much more respect and patience for this mess of a film than I ever could. Someone once summed it up as, “This dude had one crappy trip to Disney World with his family so he decided to make an entire movie about it.”
    I can’t really see the depth you grasped from this film, hoyever, I do genuinely applaud you for finding it. I’ve always seen this as a shallow attempt at putting an edgy spin onto the Disney experience. “What of Disney was this evil corporation?” It’s comical on paper and has been done to death and the only new thing this film really provides is a weird new strain of the flu that people die by.

  • @ChrisGower
    @ChrisGower Před rokem +2

    I'll be honest, I tried to watch this a few year's back and had to turn it off about halfway through. I'll say no more. Your video was useful in that it scratched an itch I didn't know I had to know what happened - and I'm glad I turned it off!

  • @fromgreattobrilliant922

    Thanks for covering it!

  • @boedacious
    @boedacious Před rokem +2

    Abel Korzeniowski's soundtrack for this is amazing!

  • @bernardomarkuskampffdemelo4323

    When i was being an extra in a short film, i described this movie on set to one of the other extras. The premise truly disturbed him.

  • @Nexils
    @Nexils Před 11 měsíci

    This one was a 'not for me'. I was too busy wondering how they managed to film everything and being annoyed at the father and being distracted by the special effects (and the CGI backgrounds) to really appreciate the movie itself. As someone already pointed out, I wonder what a movie like this would be like if it was told from the perspective of the kids.

  • @ak-ub1ym
    @ak-ub1ym Před rokem +2

    So basically disney retaliated by doing nothing , damn that's a sick burn 😓 A horror story with a disney adult would be pretty horrifying if done right.
    If they had done something they would have give publicity even if it was a negative one.

  • @vang.609
    @vang.609 Před rokem +2

    It's been years since I've seen the film.
    I remember the ending being like heaven or something and he's with his family but his son is missing. And it always bothered me that the son is gone.
    Was it because his son left him to die or because he seemed to like his son less than his daughter

  • @RockySamson
    @RockySamson Před rokem +4

    Didn’t know this was a horror film! Only heard about its reputation as a guerrilla film. Cool!

    • @RyanHollinger
      @RyanHollinger  Před rokem +8

      Well... """""horror"""""

    • @RockySamson
      @RockySamson Před rokem

      @@RyanHollinger True, true, lol

    • @RockySamson
      @RockySamson Před rokem +2

      @@RyanHollinger
      “Horror-ish”
      “Horror-like”
      “Horror-adjacent”
      “Horror substitute”
      “I can’t believe it’s not Horror”
      “Horror Lite”
      “Horror Zero”
      “Gluten-free Horror”
      “Cruelty-free Horror”
      “Free Range Horror”
      “Impossible Horror”
      “The genre formerly known as Horror”
      “Crystal Pepsi”

  • @Bnnettennba
    @Bnnettennba Před rokem

    I’m glad I’m not the only one spending a not insignificant amount of time lounging around obsessing over In Times New Roman…

  • @reidcouper3879
    @reidcouper3879 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’m super interested to see you cover the Peter Jackson splatter trilogy and how the shaped Jackson into later directing the Hobbit. Plus hearing your thoughts on Meet the Feebles might be a great once in a lifetime chance to break the mental love of puppets.

  • @bored4959
    @bored4959 Před rokem +1

    The marketing of this movie just took a big L when disney didnt react. They even had a website countdown till disney sued them.

  • @TheDantedarkdemon201
    @TheDantedarkdemon201 Před rokem +2

    I saw this movie once many years ago was confused by it, then forgot about it then some years later a CZcamsr I watch called some jerk with a camera did a review of it

  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter Před 11 měsíci

    Never heard of this. How interesting!

  • @hiroshi6421
    @hiroshi6421 Před rokem

    the outro music is perfect

  • @suicidebylifestyle9267
    @suicidebylifestyle9267 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Disney made the right choice pretending this didn't exist, someone on their board knows what the Streisand effect is.

  • @LeeFox1337
    @LeeFox1337 Před rokem +3

    Did they fire the person that made the call to ignore this? Because as of late they constantly do to draw attention in the worst ways.

  • @hawkticus_history_corner

    I feel like that quote about black and white sells it fairly short. Theres other reasons to use it, a big one is to massively emphasize lighting, as you can do things with black and white you cant with color

  • @solemnlament9757
    @solemnlament9757 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for another great analysis vid ryan! I'm going through a bit of an Eddie Murphy phase atm, so I'd lo e to see you do Vampire in Brooklyn or The Haunted Mansion. Thanks again!

  • @magzdilluh
    @magzdilluh Před 11 měsíci

    I've seen more breakdowns about the making about the film than anything about the film itself. I'd like to watch it!

  • @thesixfootsixexperience8781

    I remember this movie gave me a very gross and depressed feeling. It made me feel old, and I was only 19 when I watched it.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před rokem +4

    Listening to this awesome video with my recently purchased Ray-Con ear buds thanks to Ryan's HOYEVER code.

  • @leiali3419
    @leiali3419 Před rokem

    Great video as usual! 😄

  • @HandsomeLongshanks
    @HandsomeLongshanks Před rokem

    14:36 my dad works for Siemens, and in america it's pronounced exactly the same as thr male bodily fluid. Now i want to show him this movie to see if he spills company secrets hahaha