I cannot tell you how glad I am that I found this video. I would've been so disappointed in all the stuff I didn't know I need to do before installing this. keep up the good work man,its a blessing to us.
Haha I felt the same way when I was doing all the research, started to debate if it was even worth it 😅 glad I could help. Let me know if you run into any issues 🤘🤘
Thanks for putting the time into this! I'm assembling a custom built 2000 6.0, hoping to run the tbss intake on it and fit it under the hood of a third gen f body. Some of this obviously won't apply to a non-oem swap, but a lot of great info here like knowing what works with the truck parts and what doesn't. Thanks again
Those are 50lb injectors. You will need a tune for them and in that case you might as well do a flex fuel conversion so you can run E85 and make more power.
So I can swap my current gen3 fuel injectors to the tbss intake ? I want to do this swap on my 06 4.8 silverado . But I don’t want to take a chance on buying a used tbss intake with fuel injectors and find out they are no good, I can buy a new tbss intake on eBay with rails and injectors but they come with 50# injectors pretty sure those wouldn’t work on my stock 4.8 right?
For sure! When I did my swap, I had a question I couldn't find the answer for. I spent like an hour in the garage skipping through videos to find the answer. Learned my lesson, and I figured it would help alot of other people out. Glad I could help out, and thanks for the support!!
That was quick and to the point on 3 different ways to get this job done. Plus a cost analysis on new and used parts. I'm like in awe of how easy you made this video look with so much information. Thanks for the video,your time and expertise. I am a new subscriber!!!!! What else do you do ? Keep em coming.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Haha I appreciate it! Definitely had alot of time invested into the research, and editing the video. My new video will be a brief overview of assembling my new 6.0L. Thanks for the support!
You say the TBSS and NBSS intakes are identical in the description. You're correct in terms of power output, however, they are two different port styles so your viewers need to make sure they're getting the port shape they need. Good video!
Hey, good point! I thought I covered that in the video, but I probably forgot to put it in there. Already updated the description, thank you for the support!!
@@239seth Dope! It's what I run in my 39 deluxe coupe. 300 with it kited out is a good deal in my opinion. I think I paid 250 shipped but that was 4 or 5 years ago.
Did a wonderful job on the topic at hand made me subscribe in under a minute to make sure I have this information on specific ls parts and using everything necessary for you to know what additional materials are required for each of the different types very detailed and can understand what he is saying clearly seen pics i will have many people that will join when they watch the masterclass on how to get our own ls swaps up and running lots of people who have shops trying to do the same quality and they don't want to listen to others like you
Thank you so much for the support, I appreciate it! You dont grow by keeping everything a secret, so I'm just trying to help spread some knowledge. Thank you!
Just bought a 2500 truck with a 6.0 to go in my 04 1500.... Gonna make a tow monster with it, so this video is my first saved video for the project. 6.0 TBSS intake 706 heads Truck Norris cam And exhaust. Undecided on what to do exhaust wise after full length Headers. It should definitely pull much better than the worn out 390k mile 4.8 that's in it now.
Haha I actually have a black bullet antenna on my white truck. But for the black truck I tried to do everything more subtle and clean. And thanks, I appreciate it 🙏
@@Shootcrack Thank you.... which size injectors did you use?.....which size throttle body? I have the same a 2007 classic with a 4.8. FWIW ....they made/make two different TBSS Intakes, external look slightly different, different MPA sensor attachment bracket/clip {one has a ball and latch, the other has a double latch]. Also an attachment molded {do not know what it is for] on the right side behind the throttle body attachment area. One does not.
awesome video! So far my swap is looking to be about 750$ without CAI and $1000 with the same S&B CAI if i went fast LSXRT or holley hi ram the set up would start at $1400 no fuel injectors or CAI(over $2k) so still half the price of a forced induction future proofed setup
Great info man! I've been searching for the right intake for my 3rd gen camaro and wanted to use the TBSS. This is by far the best information I have found on this intake and I've been searching for over 6 months. I'm glad that I stumbled upon this. Keep up the great work and I look forward to checking out the rest of your content! 👍🏾
Ayyeee, thats awesome! Glad I could help you out some. Sounds like the Camaro will be pretty sick! The only thing I would worry about is your hood clearance. The TBSS intakes are pretty tall, and might not clear. Thanks for the support!
Thank you! I tried to get this out sooner, just got super busy. Hope it answered any questions you still had (even though your almost finished with the install haha)
Great video! I have been going for the looks and used that aluminum manifold and rails. Now, I am taking a step back and looking at the TBSS manifold and 90/92mm TB for my 03 Avalanche Z66 5.3l 1500. I am talking with BBK for there TB since I can take the mechanical part of the TB out and install it on there's.
@Ivan J California haha nice, 200k miles would be awesome. For the swap, it all depends what your wanting. If its just a daily, the cost to hp ratio might not be worth the little extra gain. If your going for max HP and or plan to go boosted, then id definitely recommend upgrading the throttle body. Guess its all up to you, and what you want. But im not sure on the HP gains with just the new throttle body.
@@TheKingCoopa yeah lol. I'm doing a cam, lifters, springs, etc. I just keep adding on items though, so it starts adding up. I'm working on an 03 6L LQ4.
@@dylanfinch6186 haha it definitely adds up! Cant go wrong with a LQ4. Definitely a solid motor. I ended up ditching the 4.8L, and going with an LQ9 6.0L. Makes 580whp on nitrous, and AWD.
@@TheKingCoopa nice. My donor is a denali and I'm actually going heavier and 4wd. I want to be able to tow and I'm tired of the poor mileage of the AWD.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. I appreciate the compliments. The truck has changed quite a bit since this video. Prepping the new built 6.0 LQ9 to get swapped in, along with 2step and a 200shot of NOS. Caged the inside. Also did a quadrasteer bed swap, so now I can run 14 wides in the back! Stay tuned for more updates, and thank you for the sub!!!
Haha thank you! I have quite a bit of other chevy customizing videos. This one was probably my most indepth though, the SS bumper conversion was pretty good too. Only bad side is these videos tend to be pretty boring 😅 thanks for the support 🤘
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the support! I have seen some guys shave the intakes, and make them super smooth. I think they use plastic weld to fill the holes and sand it smooth. For their sensors I believer they drill a hole in the back (so you don't see it) and they either use a tap to create the threads, or they use a rivnut to pop in there with metal threads. That should create a good seal for the IAT
Hey, my vette had it on the exhaust also, I swapped to long tube headers (which deletes that port) you can also get a block off plate from ICT billet for the intake. Just make sure its accounted for/adjusted in the tune. Thanks for the support!!
Guessing my mani came from a gen4 5.3 (nnbs) cuz had shorter injecrors and took spare Delphi 25317628's and they fit perfectly. Injectors came with the gen4 p# 12613411 and look like short, fat Delphi's. Which online says 2010-17 flex fuel type. Rated at 37.3 # at the standard 58 psi fuel # system. Also.. Some of the later year Caddy Northstar Tab's are 87/90mm gold blades and fit also. Super cheap when found at local LKQ. And also grabbed the evap line for perfect fit to metal line behind engine on driver side firewall.
Awesome!! I have another video for the SS bumper install too for when the time comes. And good luck, let me know how it goes. Hardest part is gonna be finding a clean RCSB that isn't rusted out or stupid expensive! The single cabs are getting harder to find, and are going up alot in value. Thank you for the support!!
Nice, that's a steal!! My 243s I had to buy off a local guy for $250. I took mine and got them milled .015in to increase the compression a little. I think it ran me like $50. Every little bit of power helps.
I had a 03 Sierra with the 262 and wrecked it via flip in 2012, 2016 i got a 07 classic bowtie. Oh you just use the 99-03 throttlebody for those cable trucks. Fyi the 99-07 stock intake handle boost well
Ayyeee, thank you I appreciate it! The exhaust is 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, catless Y pipe, single gibson muffler with gibson tips out the passanger side.
For sure, thats definitely the easiest way. Trying to make the newer generation map sensor work is a tuning headache. Plus there are 3 different ways the new map sensors mount. So gotta get a little creative with it.
@@TheKingCoopa I hear some fit right in, others say they pop the oring off the tbss sensor and put it on the old sensor. Some say a rubber grommet. Seems like it depends on what year truck you have AND what year manifold you got
Hey, thanks I appreciate it! S&B Cold Air Intake. All products are linked in the description of the video. www.sbfilters.com/cold-air-intakes/1999-2008-silverado-sierra-intake-75-5036?variant_id=75
Great video love watching the videos you post very detailed and you show the process 👍 also would you be doing a electric fan swap? Would like to see that video if you do
Thank you!! I definitely plan on doing an E fans swap. I've herd you can gain about 10 extra HP from getting rid of the mechanical fan, less rotating weight. Not sure when ill do this. Currently trying to sell my house, and buy some more property with a larger shop/garage I can fit two lifts in. So im a little busy right now. Priorities haha. But the plan this winter, after the new house, i wanna C notch the rear frame, go to a 4/6 drop (lowest ill go), E fans swap, quadrasteer bedswap, widen the rear rims 3in and run a fat back tire, and wrap it. So we shall see 🤘
I just subscribed. Best Video I have seen. Exactly what I'm looking for & want to do. I was giving a 2003 Tahoe 5.3 flex fuel. Needs alot of love. Hope u have a video on yur exhaust. Because that's Next for me. Thank for yur help on my build
Thats awesome, I appreciate the support and the sub! Also just an FYI, the flex fuel injectors will run a few higher lbs. So if you switch to non-flex fuel injectors, you will have to adjust that fuel trim in the tune. You will run really rich and burn up the plugs in a few minutes. (Which you will definitely need a tune anyways if you swap the intake and TB out) As for the exhaust, I made a video when I did all my performance mods. It wasn't super indepth on the exhaust. I have some 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, Catless Y pipe, gibson muffler, and gibson tips out the side. Its loud and sounds great with the cam. Glad I could help out. Let me know if you run into any issues on your swap/build 🤘
I know this is an intake swap video, I’m curious to know how ur speed engineering headers have treated you! Did they have any fitment issues? Are they close to the steering column at all? Clean build for sure! Your vids are always straight forward and professional keep the content coming!
Thank you! They have been pretty great so far. I have had three issues with them, not really a huge deal though. 1. Was the Y pipe was a little hard to wiggle up past the trans crossmember. Took me like 10min to figure it out haha. 2. Is the Y pipe comes with a bung welded into it, so I can run my AFR gauge. Which is awesome, but those bungs for the sensors need to be welded in at a higher angle. They weld the bung in completely level, which allows the exhaust condensation to sit in the sensor tip, after you shut the engine off. Which will corrode the sensor, and I have already gone through two AFR sensors. They aren't cheap. So when I pull the exhaust out for my 6.0 LQ9 swap coming up soon, I'll weld in a new bung at the proper angle. If you're not running an AFR gauge, no big deal. 3. The clamps they send you are junk. Just throw them away. I went to Napa and got new exhaust clamps. The long 3in wide ones, you wrap around the tube, run the bolts through both sides of the clamp, then tighten the bolts down, and it will pull that clamp SUPER tight! Definitely recommend those. Other than that, I haven't had any issues. The rest of the fitment was great, and doesn't hit anything. It also clears my front 4x4 driveshaft. If your gonna do longitudes, then I would just spend a little extra money and get ARP exhaust bolts. They are stronger, won't snap, and won't corrode into your heads. Also don't re-use your exhaust gaskets. Get a set of (MLS) multi layer steel gaskets. They work really well. Hope that all helps. Stay tuned, I just got a roll cage installed, and the 6.0 is at the machine shop getting prepped for the swap, along with 2step, and a 200 shot of NOS haha. Thanks for all the support!! Good luck!
Trying this out on Friday but with the stock intake manifold and Glenn’s auto 90mm throttle body with a 3bolt to 4 bolt intake manifold adapter. Gonna upload the video Friday hopefully I can see some gains. I subbed to the channel it was very helpful watching this video man 😂🤙🏻
Awesome, Glad I could help a little. Thanks for the support! And make sure you let me know how it goes, id definitely be interested seeing what gains you get!
@@NT.RACING thank you, I appreciate it 🙏. She has definitely came a long way in one year. This winter i think im going to C notch the rear frame, go to a 4/6 drop, and just to be different i wanna do a quadrasteer bed swap, and get the rear rims widened 3in to run a fat back tire. So still a little ways to go before im finished with her
@@TheKingCoopa dude that is so sic! 4/6 c-notch drop is perfect. That’s what I’m going for as well. You got this man I’ll definitely be watching and sharing this truck with my friends. They always appreciate a badass build 😎
@@NT.RACING thank you! Can't go wrong with a 4/6 drop. I might have to go with a little smaller tires though, so the front doesn't rub. Hard part for me is going to be finding a bed to swap it haha. But right now I'm looking for a new place, with more property and a bigger shop I can fit a lift in. About to list my current house for sale too, so just been a little busy with that, but we will get there 🤘
For sure, glad I could help out some. The exhaust is 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, with a catless Y pipe, single gibson muffler with gubson tips out the passanger side. Thanks for the support!
@@TheKingCoopa I’ve been trying to do little upgrades to my grandpas truck. Taking care of it over time has little bits of problems but I want it to have not only have good looks but I also want it to have performance upgrades like yours.
Oh nice, thats awesome! Yea it doesn't take much to make these trucks look good. Head lights, tail lights, stubby antenna, tint, color match the bumpers and your solid 👌 I also have another video showing all the performance mods I did, if your bored. Its still knowledgeable, but not as indepth. But for these LS motors, a cold air intake, mild camshaft, long tube headers, no cats, and a tune will really wake that truck up! Huge night and day difference. Especially if you get the tourqe management removed in the tune. You will have zero throttle response delay. But its harder on your tranny. And depending on the camshaft, you'll need a bigger stall converter. I have a 2600stall.
@@MADGENiUSProductions S&B Cold Air Intake. All the products are in the description of the video. www.sbfilters.com/cold-air-intakes/1999-2008-silverado-sierra-intake-75-5036?variant_id=75
Doing something similar… truck Norris cam, supporting valve train, TBSS intake manifold with 87mm gen4 TB, K&N intake, and Gen 2 ford lightning green top injectors. My shits going on an AWD Qudrasteer Denali though. The fun factor is way down compared to his rig.
Oh nice, thats awesome. Definitely sounds like a solid build. I'm glad you are going with the supporting valvetrain, I feel like alot of people skip that part on cam swaps. Is your truck an extended cab or crew cab? Not sure if you have seen my newer videos, but I swapped to a quadrasteer bed, to run some 14 wide drag wheels (also AWD). And I swapped to a built 6.0/4l80e, makes 600whp on nitrous. Pretty fun little truck.
@@TheKingCoopa Extended cab. Yep I did springs push rods and trunions. Should have just done heads to bump compression up. I still think I’m like $1000 away from being finished. The injectors I want to use won’t work because data is too scarce so im going to maybe use the 30lbers I scavenged off the TBSS intake or just buy some flex fuel injectors and leave room for growth.
Great tutorial guide! I have a LQ9 swap in jeep wrangler with the stock cable operated TB and intake, my question is in your video you talked about having to use the x-link when swapping TBs, but that only refers to the drive-by-wire throttle bodies right? If not, what else would I need for a 92 mm TB swap along with the TBSS intake swap as far as getting my cable driven TB to operate correctly with the intake swap?
Hey, sorry for the super late reply. I thought I replied to this a while ago, but I guess not. Since you are cable driven, you do NOT need the x link. You can either re-use your current throttle body, with a 3 bolt to 4 bolt adapter. Or you can upgrade to a 90mm cable driven throttle body. Make sure you get new gaskets. Besides that I think the only really big difference is that your supposed to have a bracket that mounts ontop of the intake to secure the throttle cables, right behind the throttle body. I know there is an aftermarket company that makes them, can't remember their name, but im sure you could get by without it.
For what a TBSS intake cost you can get the same results literally by having your stock truck intake manifold ported along with the throttle body and still come out cheaper than buying the TBSS intake.
If your balling on a budget, then yes. But actually comparing apples to apples, I don't think so. It would definitely help, and be cheaper, but a ported stock TB, I don't think will make the same CFM as a 90mm TB. Most guys say they gain 10-15hp on the intake swap, I don't think you can make all that HP up on a ported stock intake. I could be wrong. But I'd definitely be interested in looking at the CFM charts and dyne charts of the two comparisons.
@@TheKingCoopa I have seen the dyno numbers of ported stock truck intake/throttle body combos and yes it does make power and torque and it is substantial enough. A larger throttle body such as from say a 78mm to a 92mm does not mean you will make power. Most of the time the larger throttle body will actually hurt your power rather than help. But porting the stock truck intake and throttle body is a great way to make anywhere from 12-30HP on the dyno as these are the ranges of numbers I have seen according to what mods each truck has. I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I have seen it. Go on Instagram and look up @454chuy and you can see some of the dyno numbers on there. He is great at porting and the only person who does my port work.
Since you had to notch some of your fan off did you ever consider going with Electronic fan so you can free up that area gutting the shroud and fan setup.. just a curious thought that will feel a huge difference and benefit of efan setup.
Hey, yes I have! I will be doing a video of the swap as well. I already have the fans, and factory harness. Still have to pickup the larger radiator though. My next video will be of the coilover swap, then I'll be changing to 4.10 gearing. And at that point I'll be pulling the 4.8 to swap out to my LQ9 6.0, 2step, and a 200shot of nitrous. I'll be installing the E fans at the same time. Supposedly by eliminating the extra rotating weight, some people see a gain of 5-10hp from the swap. Thanks for the support!
I want to do my 03 Silverado I have a 09 nnbs intake complete with injectors and fuel rails and tb 87 mm plus coils so I think I only need the corvette filter ,xlink ,injector pig tails , and new intake gaskets and O ring
Sounds like you got it all down! Make sure with the xlink, you get the right one for a gold blade or silver blade throttle body. And you only need the corvette regulator if you have a return style fuel system (two fuel lines, instead of one) I'm sure you will do just fine with the swap, good luck, and thanks for the support!
Cooper what’s up bro! We went to corporals course together I didn’t know you had all this info to share back then lol I’m trying to build my cat eye rn I’d love the tips bro!
What is the part number for the s&b intake that you were running? I was thinking about getting an intake, but if I am going to do the 92 mm throttle body I don’t think that the one for the stock will work with the upgrade.
When you installed your TBSS intake manifold, throttle body and X-link, did you have to get a tune after that, Ive seen some people that say that their truck will shut off or the throttle body doesn't work, but you mentioned you had a GM/AC Delco Throttle Body, ive seen a lot of knock off throttle bodies out there just didn't know if you had to get a tune immediately, I just purchased a TBSS intake with the OEM TBSS fuel injectors and stock TBSS throttle body, so interested in what you did. keep up the good work truck looks Nice!!
Hey, sorry for the late reply. If you do want to run the newer 90mm TB then you will need the X link adapter. Xlink stated it won't work with any of the knock off, ebay special TBs. So technically any fuel or air flow changes you would need a tune to really maximize the add-ons, and to run properly. But if you do just the intake, with your stock TB, you will be fine. If you do the X link and 90mm Tb, you could probably drive it to the tuner. But if you swap out to the larger Injectors, then you will need a tune ASAP. The larger 36lb injectors caused my truck to run extremely rich, and would foul out a set of plugs in 5min of idle time. So I gave my tuner an extra $50 to come to me, so I didn't have to tow it to him. Hope that helps. Good luck on the swap 🤘
Very informative video. I installed a TBSS intake on an LM7, 99 GMC Sierra. Had it tuned. All good. Runs great. However, I have a problem with the idle. I did install a fuel regulator keep it at 59 pounds. It will randomly idle down to about 400-300 rpm and sometimes stop altogether. When it is running well, it will idle at 600 rpm with the a/c on or off. Then randomly for no obvious reason it will idle down. Can you give my any idea in which direction I should go or what I should look for? Your assistance is appreciated. Thank in advance.
Hey sorry for the late reply. CZcams flagged your comment for some reason. So I had a similar situation happen with the truck. Where it kept trying to die at stop signs. I ended up switching to a speed density tune, and that solved my problems.
Hey, I had my local tuner clean them for me. They usually run about 5$ an injector. Id check locally, before you send them off somewhere to get cleaned.
Hey, sorry for the late reply! Honestly I'm not sure. Everytime I've seen anyone do the swap or all the research I did, everyone always swapped out the throttle body. Its definitely worth a try though, to try and save the extra money. Sorry I'm not much help with you on this one. Good luck though, let me know how it goes 🤘
Well done! I will be referring to this video several times for my swap. Question: will the TBSS throttle body work with this swap on my 04 Silverado 5.3?
Thank you, glad I could help out some. Im not sure if you can still use the tbss TB, being that it is from a newer body style, the wiring is different and sends different signals. Thats why I needed the Xlink, to convert all that over to the NBS harness. The xlink only works with gm or acdelco TBs. And it matters if you have a silver or gold blade, on the LS3 TBs. So im honestly not sure, sorry
I went with 1 3/4. Tuner told me to go with that size. 5.3 l33 NA, ball park to be a 450-470 hp motor. He said I could go with the 1 7/8 but 1 3/4 would be better.
Hey, thanks for the input. Its been mention a few time lol. I messed up in the video, and didn't catch it untill it was posted. I also added it in the description correcting my mistake. Thanks for the support 🤘
Hey, from the research I've done, yes you would still need it. The TBSS/NNBS throttle bodies use the newer wires and sends different signals than the older TB's. I think you can swap the pedal TAC module, and wiring from a Camaro to make it work. You can convert to a cable driven throttle body, but that will require more parts, and changing the tune. When it is all said and done I still believe the X link is the easiest and cheapest way around it. Don't quote me on that though. Hope that helps.
Awesome video! I recently picked up my tbss intake and am looking to install. One question i have before starting any kind of tear down is if I install it with the oem tbss fuel injectors (i believe 32lb) will stock rated fuel pump be able to supply enough pressure? ( Delphi pump, 28 gallon per hour avg, max psi 73). Thank you!
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Your stock fuel pump will do just fine. 32lb injectors really isn't anything crazy. If your motor is stock besides the intake, then I really wouldn't worry about bigger injectors or fuel pumps. If you ever decide to go more than that, I'd definitely recommend looking at some larger fuel pumps/injectors. My new setup is 42lb injectors with dual walbro 450s (capable of 1000hp) which is overkill for my setup. (built LQ9 makes 470whp, injectors are currently at 75% duty cycle), but I do plan to twin turbo it in the future. So I'll need bigger injectors when that day comes. Hope that helps, and id recommend you get it tuned. Especially since you have air flow and fuel changes. Thanks for the support and good luck!
@@TheKingCoopa no worries man! Thank you for the reply. I had reached out to a couple shops and they said it would be fine, probably not gonna go much crazier than this so I think the fuel system will be good. I did have a tuner in my area but am currently looking for a new one, do you have any recommendations in the ATL or North Georgia area?
@@tylergerding74 oh nice, glad you got some answers already. Im from northern Indiana. So I dont have a good recommendation for you. I would try to stay away from the mail in tunes. Your setup is super simple, but I believe an in person tune will always be better. They have the laptop/info right infront of them and can make adjustments on the fly. But id just do some good research. There are some good tuners and crappy tuners out there. On average I pay about 300$ for a tune. Sometimes that includes dyno time. If anyone tries to charge you more than 500$, I'd stay away. Just my opinion. But id ask around on the local car Facebook pages. Im sure you will get the same tuner will start getting recomended multiple times to you.
@@TheKingCoopa okay gotcha, yeah almost every high rated tunes around me are around 6-700 dollars once all is said and done. I'll definitely check around and see what some guys are posting on marketplace, thank you man!
Doing a 5.3 swap in a 1995 S10 , using this TBSS intake, will I have hood clearance issue's with the stock hood. Trying to make between 350- 390 whp , anything over that in this little truck will take away the fun of a daily driver. Would like to retain a sleeper look.
hey, sorry for the late reply. the tbss intake is almost the same height as the stock truck intake. so if you know the 5.3 intake will clear, than the tbss intake should clear. sounds like it will be a sweet truck!
I did this swap to my 06 Sierra and it threw a vacuum leak code. I swapped out the MAP sensor and it went away for a while and came back. Did you run into this issue? I tried the break parts cleaner around the gasket area and nothing. Retighten every bolt, checked the lines.
Hey, if both trucks are stock. The first mods I would do: 1. Long tube headers 2. Remove the catletic converters (if you don't need smog tested) 3. S&W Cold air intake. 3. Camshaft swap 4. A good tune. Those will wake the truck up! Huge night and day difference. Depending on the camshaft size, you might wanna a little bigger stall/tourqe converter. But those would definitely be the first things I'd do. After that, your looking into more upgraded heads, head work, and an intake swap. Thanks for the support!
I’m going through a complete brain fart over the evap system and how it’ll fit into my swap since my lm7 is going into a foxbody. Would I just block those off? Sorry if it’s an obvious question, I just wanna make sure I have no vacuum leaks or running issues
Yea, just block it off, and make sure your fuel tank/cell has a breather for the fuel to expand and contrast when it gets hot or cold. And try to make the breather higher than the fill/gas cap. So when you fill up, it doesn't piss out the breather
ooooff, You could probably return the adapters. I'd double check the connector style on the injectors, and give GAP or ICTBuillet a call. They will probably have the correct adapters for you. Sorry about that!
what fuel pump would u recommend im building a 5.3 11.1 comp Afr heads not a crazy cam 425 -450 hp any one make a drop in pump that would pump enough thanks for your help
Hey, I would assume a single walbro 450 would do the trick. You can plumb it yourself in the existing fuel bucket. Its a little bit of work, but can be done. If you were wanting a complete drop in unit, with a hot wire/harness. Then Chris1313 racing is your guy (link below). He makes some nice stuff. I'm running his kit. Dual walbro 450s, drop in unit, with his billet top hat, and dual relay harness. The truck curently makes 580whp on nitrous since this video. facebook.com/profile.php?id=100069750043445&mibextid=ZbWKwL
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This is one of the most detailed, short and simple videos, I have seen on the tbss intake manifold swap, upgrade. Thanks, it is very helpful.
Awesome, thanks! Glad I could help out a little.
I cannot tell you how glad I am that I found this video. I would've been so disappointed in all the stuff I didn't know I need to do before installing this. keep up the good work man,its a blessing to us.
Haha I felt the same way when I was doing all the research, started to debate if it was even worth it 😅 glad I could help. Let me know if you run into any issues 🤘🤘
Thanks for putting the time into this! I'm assembling a custom built 2000 6.0, hoping to run the tbss intake on it and fit it under the hood of a third gen f body. Some of this obviously won't apply to a non-oem swap, but a lot of great info here like knowing what works with the truck parts and what doesn't. Thanks again
Awesome, glad I could help. Yea that f body hood might be cutting it pretty close. The tbss intake is pretty tall. Good luck with the build 🤘
I have been scouring the web for a tbss swap parts list and came across your video. Thank you! All the information in one place. A great help.
Glad I could help, and thanks for the support! 🤘
Easily the best tutorial I've seen on this swap. Excellent explanations and showing what you're talking about.
Awesome, glad I could help out some 🤘 thanks for the support
Just. Little info for anyone who cares. Srock L59 5.3s witch are flexfuel have factory bigger injecters
so i can put them on my 4.8?
Yes you can.
Those are 50lb injectors. You will need a tune for them and in that case you might as well do a flex fuel conversion so you can run E85 and make more power.
So I can swap my current gen3 fuel injectors to the tbss intake ? I want to do this swap on my 06 4.8 silverado . But I don’t want to take a chance on buying a used tbss intake with fuel injectors and find out they are no good, I can buy a new tbss intake on eBay with rails and injectors but they come with 50# injectors pretty sure those wouldn’t work on my stock 4.8 right?
Genius idea listing all the parts/times at the start. Watched the whole thing but that will be very helpful coming back for info👍
For sure! When I did my swap, I had a question I couldn't find the answer for. I spent like an hour in the garage skipping through videos to find the answer. Learned my lesson, and I figured it would help alot of other people out. Glad I could help out, and thanks for the support!!
That was quick and to the point on 3 different ways to get this job done.
Plus a cost analysis on new and used parts.
I'm like in awe of how easy you made this video look with so much information.
Thanks for the video,your time and expertise.
I am a new subscriber!!!!! What else do you do ? Keep em coming.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Haha I appreciate it! Definitely had alot of time invested into the research, and editing the video. My new video will be a brief overview of assembling my new 6.0L. Thanks for the support!
You say the TBSS and NBSS intakes are identical in the description. You're correct in terms of power output, however, they are two different port styles so your viewers need to make sure they're getting the port shape they need. Good video!
Hey, good point! I thought I covered that in the video, but I probably forgot to put it in there. Already updated the description, thank you for the support!!
How do you tell the difference I’ve searched and searched but can’t find anything
@@239seth Look at the ports. The TBSS is a cathedral port. I believe the NBSS is a rectangle port.
@@iamblamb501 just got it order paid 368 with fuel rails injectors fuel pressure regulator and sensors, it was $300 flat with $68 in shipping
@@239seth Dope! It's what I run in my 39 deluxe coupe. 300 with it kited out is a good deal in my opinion. I think I paid 250 shipped but that was 4 or 5 years ago.
Did a wonderful job on the topic at hand made me subscribe in under a minute to make sure I have this information on specific ls parts and using everything necessary for you to know what additional materials are required for each of the different types very detailed and can understand what he is saying clearly seen pics i will have many people that will join when they watch the masterclass on how to get our own ls swaps up and running lots of people who have shops trying to do the same quality and they don't want to listen to others like you
Thank you so much for the support, I appreciate it! You dont grow by keeping everything a secret, so I'm just trying to help spread some knowledge. Thank you!
Thank you so much for making this! This is the type of content I absolutely LOVE finding.
Needa get yourself some electric fans
Awesome, glad I could help out. Its a little long and boring, but it should cover almost everything. 🤘
Great video man!! Really gave me more confidence to do a TBSS swap
Thats awesome, glad I could help out. Hopefully your swap goes well 🤘 thanks for the support!
Awesome and very detailed video! I am about to go through this process myself, so thanks for the heads up on what all has to be done!
For sure. Glad I could help out some. Good luck on the swap 🤘
Thank you for the video it was the best one since I’m running a 6.0 ls swap for a 4.8
Oh nice, thats awesome. I'm actually mid way through swapping in a 6.0,4l80e, and AWD. Thanks for the support!
Just bought a 2500 truck with a 6.0 to go in my 04 1500.... Gonna make a tow monster with it, so this video is my first saved video for the project.
6.0
TBSS intake
706 heads
Truck Norris cam
And exhaust. Undecided on what to do exhaust wise after full length Headers.
It should definitely pull much better than the worn out 390k mile 4.8 that's in it now.
I didnt see one of those cool bullet antennas ...gotta have one.love the headlights and side exhaust
Haha I actually have a black bullet antenna on my white truck. But for the black truck I tried to do everything more subtle and clean. And thanks, I appreciate it 🙏
Best tbss intake swap video on here just did my 07 classic thanks to this vid. we’ll see what happens 🤙
Ayyeee, that's awesome 👌 glad I could help out!
Jack, which engine do you have in your 07 classic?
@@josepho5055 4.8
@@Shootcrack Thank you.... which size injectors did you use?.....which size throttle body? I have the same a 2007 classic with a 4.8. FWIW ....they made/make two different TBSS Intakes, external look slightly different, different MPA sensor attachment bracket/clip {one has a ball and latch, the other has a double latch]. Also an attachment molded {do not know what it is for] on the right side behind the throttle body attachment area. One does not.
@@josepho5055 I used 60# ford performance injectors to run e85 and ls3 throttle body
That was amazing on how you explain all the process.
Hopefully I helped you out some. Thanks for the support!!
awesome video! So far my swap is looking to be about 750$ without CAI and $1000 with the same S&B CAI
if i went fast LSXRT or holley hi ram the set up would start at $1400 no fuel injectors or CAI(over $2k)
so still half the price of a forced induction future proofed setup
Great info man! I've been searching for the right intake for my 3rd gen camaro and wanted to use the TBSS. This is by far the best information I have found on this intake and I've been searching for over 6 months. I'm glad that I stumbled upon this. Keep up the great work and I look forward to checking out the rest of your content! 👍🏾
Ayyeee, thats awesome! Glad I could help you out some. Sounds like the Camaro will be pretty sick! The only thing I would worry about is your hood clearance. The TBSS intakes are pretty tall, and might not clear. Thanks for the support!
@@TheKingCoopa I have a 4" cowl hood. There's plenty of room to spare!
@@jae7123 im running my stock hood on my 92 and it clears
By far best explained right here👏👌🙌👍💯 wish I saw this 3 days ago
Thank you! I tried to get this out sooner, just got super busy. Hope it answered any questions you still had (even though your almost finished with the install haha)
Great video! I have been going for the looks and used that aluminum manifold and rails. Now, I am taking a step back and looking at the TBSS manifold and 90/92mm TB for my 03 Avalanche Z66 5.3l 1500. I am talking with BBK for there TB since I can take the mechanical part of the TB out and install it on there's.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Sounds like you have a nice setup. Let me know how that BBK TB turns out. Thanks for the support!
Great video! Have a TBSS intake and set of 243's waiting to go on mine.. I see your from Ft. Wayne, I'm about 2 hours south of there
Thank you, I went with some milled 243's also 👌 thats sweet, not to far away!
Im doing the same thing with my Lq9. I’m picking it up from the machine shop tomorrow!
@@yourejustmad9938 nice, let me know how it goes!
@Ivan J California haha nice, 200k miles would be awesome. For the swap, it all depends what your wanting. If its just a daily, the cost to hp ratio might not be worth the little extra gain. If your going for max HP and or plan to go boosted, then id definitely recommend upgrading the throttle body. Guess its all up to you, and what you want. But im not sure on the HP gains with just the new throttle body.
Thanks for the video. It's worth spending a few extra bucks and doing it right.
Glad I could help out! I think so too. Buy once, cry once haha.
@@TheKingCoopa yeah lol. I'm doing a cam, lifters, springs, etc. I just keep adding on items though, so it starts adding up. I'm working on an 03 6L LQ4.
@@dylanfinch6186 haha it definitely adds up! Cant go wrong with a LQ4. Definitely a solid motor. I ended up ditching the 4.8L, and going with an LQ9 6.0L. Makes 580whp on nitrous, and AWD.
@@TheKingCoopa nice. My donor is a denali and I'm actually going heavier and 4wd. I want to be able to tow and I'm tired of the poor mileage of the AWD.
@@dylanfinch6186 oh sweet, that will be cool
That is the perfect truck. Ain't nothin not cool about it. Great video!
Thanks for the support, I appreciate it! She has definitely came a long way, but still have a little more to do to her 🤘
That sounds amazing. Looking forward to seeing the progress on this truck! New subscriber for sure!
Hey, sorry for the late reply. I appreciate the compliments. The truck has changed quite a bit since this video. Prepping the new built 6.0 LQ9 to get swapped in, along with 2step and a 200shot of NOS. Caged the inside. Also did a quadrasteer bed swap, so now I can run 14 wides in the back! Stay tuned for more updates, and thank you for the sub!!!
you can also cut, cap the evap lines, and have that turned off in your tune
Thats a good option too
Please duplicate this format with every chevy truck upgrade you can. sweet vid subscribed
Haha thank you! I have quite a bit of other chevy customizing videos. This one was probably my most indepth though, the SS bumper conversion was pretty good too. Only bad side is these videos tend to be pretty boring 😅 thanks for the support 🤘
Thank you. There are so many guides that skip a lotta stuff but yours I so much more step by step. 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you, I tried to include all the info I knew, without it being super boring. Hope it helps you out 🤘
Video is awesome very detailed I wish the harness was way cheaper though
Yea, that is definitely one of the downsides to going with the newer LS3 throttle body. Thanks for the support!
Excellent DIY video. Thank you!
Thank you, I appreciate it
Great video! Super informative but easy to understand! And editing is on point!
Thanks, I appreciate it 🤘
Cool vid , better than factory R&R intake content . I'd like to try this but I am Fitech and need a IAT in the intake, guess I could figure it out
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the support! I have seen some guys shave the intakes, and make them super smooth. I think they use plastic weld to fill the holes and sand it smooth. For their sensors I believer they drill a hole in the back (so you don't see it) and they either use a tap to create the threads, or they use a rivnut to pop in there with metal threads. That should create a good seal for the IAT
Great job explaining
Thank you! Hope it helped answer some questions.
I have a L59 Z Vin 5.3 and from 05-07, those came stock with 36.6lb injectors.
L59 02-04 had 33lb injectors.
Oh nice, good info!
@@TheKingCoopa Definitely! I read that up on summit by the vin numbers on the different blocks, pretty interesting.
you are the KING great info what did you do about EGR ON 6.0 its on exhaust my 02 5.3 it was on intake can you tune it out thanks for all the info
Hey, my vette had it on the exhaust also, I swapped to long tube headers (which deletes that port) you can also get a block off plate from ICT billet for the intake. Just make sure its accounted for/adjusted in the tune. Thanks for the support!!
thanks
Cool outlay Thank-you.
For sure, good luck with the swap 🤘
💯 plenty of little things to cater for on install.
Guessing my mani came from a gen4 5.3 (nnbs) cuz had shorter injecrors and took spare Delphi 25317628's and they fit perfectly. Injectors came with the gen4 p# 12613411 and look like short, fat Delphi's. Which online says 2010-17 flex fuel type. Rated at 37.3 # at the standard 58 psi fuel # system. Also.. Some of the later year Caddy Northstar Tab's are 87/90mm gold blades and fit also. Super cheap when found at local LKQ. And also grabbed the evap line for perfect fit to metal line behind engine on driver side firewall.
Hey, sorry for the late reply. hell yea, definitely some good knowledge to pass on! Thanks for the support! 🤘
Love your content man i want to buy a truck and build it into a ss clone your videos really helped 🔥🔥
Awesome!! I have another video for the SS bumper install too for when the time comes. And good luck, let me know how it goes. Hardest part is gonna be finding a clean RCSB that isn't rusted out or stupid expensive! The single cabs are getting harder to find, and are going up alot in value. Thank you for the support!!
Great how to video and good information!👍
Thank you, I appreciate it 🙏
Nnbs from my local upull for $80 with rails, injectors, throttle body etc.... 2008 Silverado and got the 243 heads for another $80 too...
Nice, that's a steal!! My 243s I had to buy off a local guy for $250. I took mine and got them milled .015in to increase the compression a little. I think it ran me like $50. Every little bit of power helps.
I had a 03 Sierra with the 262 and wrecked it via flip in 2012, 2016 i got a 07 classic bowtie.
Oh you just use the 99-03 throttlebody for those cable trucks.
Fyi the 99-07 stock intake handle boost well
Hey, yea the 99-02 are cable driven, and the 03-07classic are drive by wire. Ive herd alot of good things about the truck and tbss intakes
Super clean truck that sounds super sick, great video keep it up!..!
Thank you, I appreciate it. The dyno video will be getting posted soon. 🤘
Awesome presentation! Subbed for sure. Love the exhaust, what the set up on that? Thanks
Ayyeee, thank you I appreciate it! The exhaust is 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, catless Y pipe, single gibson muffler with gibson tips out the passanger side.
I see all kinds of different stuff on making the map sensor off the old manifold work
For sure, thats definitely the easiest way. Trying to make the newer generation map sensor work is a tuning headache. Plus there are 3 different ways the new map sensors mount. So gotta get a little creative with it.
@@TheKingCoopa I hear some fit right in, others say they pop the oring off the tbss sensor and put it on the old sensor. Some say a rubber grommet. Seems like it depends on what year truck you have AND what year manifold you got
@@loweredyote8416 right! Its crazy how many variables there are for just one sensor haha
JACK IS BACK!
Thanks bro!
The best video with explanation for expectation of swap seen to date.
Question:
What cold air part number are you running?
Hey, thanks I appreciate it!
S&B Cold Air Intake. All products are linked in the description of the video.
www.sbfilters.com/cold-air-intakes/1999-2008-silverado-sierra-intake-75-5036?variant_id=75
Great video. You answered a lot of my questions. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Awesome, glad I could help!!
Think I’ve seen this truck on tiktok. Clean loooking truck.
Haha yup! And thank you, I appreciate it 🙏
Great video love watching the videos you post very detailed and you show the process 👍 also would you be doing a electric fan swap? Would like to see that video if you do
Thank you!! I definitely plan on doing an E fans swap. I've herd you can gain about 10 extra HP from getting rid of the mechanical fan, less rotating weight. Not sure when ill do this. Currently trying to sell my house, and buy some more property with a larger shop/garage I can fit two lifts in. So im a little busy right now. Priorities haha. But the plan this winter, after the new house, i wanna C notch the rear frame, go to a 4/6 drop (lowest ill go), E fans swap, quadrasteer bedswap, widen the rear rims 3in and run a fat back tire, and wrap it. So we shall see 🤘
I just subscribed. Best Video I have seen. Exactly what I'm looking for & want to do. I was giving a 2003 Tahoe 5.3 flex fuel. Needs alot of love. Hope u have a video on yur exhaust. Because that's Next for me. Thank for yur help on my build
Thats awesome, I appreciate the support and the sub! Also just an FYI, the flex fuel injectors will run a few higher lbs. So if you switch to non-flex fuel injectors, you will have to adjust that fuel trim in the tune. You will run really rich and burn up the plugs in a few minutes. (Which you will definitely need a tune anyways if you swap the intake and TB out)
As for the exhaust, I made a video when I did all my performance mods. It wasn't super indepth on the exhaust. I have some 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, Catless Y pipe, gibson muffler, and gibson tips out the side. Its loud and sounds great with the cam.
Glad I could help out. Let me know if you run into any issues on your swap/build 🤘
Just a heads up, not all 99-02 trucks are drive by cable.
I have an 01 1500 that is dbw, I've been told it's not common.
Oh wow, didn't know that. Thanks for the info and the support!
Straight forward info. Great vid
Thank you! Hope it helped out 🤘
I know this is an intake swap video, I’m curious to know how ur speed engineering headers have treated you! Did they have any fitment issues? Are they close to the steering column at all? Clean build for sure! Your vids are always straight forward and professional keep the content coming!
Thank you! They have been pretty great so far. I have had three issues with them, not really a huge deal though.
1. Was the Y pipe was a little hard to wiggle up past the trans crossmember. Took me like 10min to figure it out haha.
2. Is the Y pipe comes with a bung welded into it, so I can run my AFR gauge. Which is awesome, but those bungs for the sensors need to be welded in at a higher angle. They weld the bung in completely level, which allows the exhaust condensation to sit in the sensor tip, after you shut the engine off. Which will corrode the sensor, and I have already gone through two AFR sensors. They aren't cheap. So when I pull the exhaust out for my 6.0 LQ9 swap coming up soon, I'll weld in a new bung at the proper angle. If you're not running an AFR gauge, no big deal.
3. The clamps they send you are junk. Just throw them away. I went to Napa and got new exhaust clamps. The long 3in wide ones, you wrap around the tube, run the bolts through both sides of the clamp, then tighten the bolts down, and it will pull that clamp SUPER tight! Definitely recommend those.
Other than that, I haven't had any issues. The rest of the fitment was great, and doesn't hit anything. It also clears my front 4x4 driveshaft. If your gonna do longitudes, then I would just spend a little extra money and get ARP exhaust bolts. They are stronger, won't snap, and won't corrode into your heads. Also don't re-use your exhaust gaskets. Get a set of (MLS) multi layer steel gaskets. They work really well. Hope that all helps. Stay tuned, I just got a roll cage installed, and the 6.0 is at the machine shop getting prepped for the swap, along with 2step, and a 200 shot of NOS haha. Thanks for all the support!! Good luck!
@@TheKingCoopa make sure to put up numbers I’m gonna guess 490 hp 470 tq to the wheels
You should relocate those coil packs next to create some more room on top of the motor and looks better
Thats definitely true, where would I put them though?
Trying this out on Friday but with the stock intake manifold and Glenn’s auto 90mm throttle body with a 3bolt to 4 bolt intake manifold adapter. Gonna upload the video Friday hopefully I can see some gains. I subbed to the channel it was very helpful watching this video man 😂🤙🏻
Awesome, Glad I could help a little. Thanks for the support! And make sure you let me know how it goes, id definitely be interested seeing what gains you get!
@@TheKingCoopa will do! I love your truck you did a really good job on it man!
@@NT.RACING thank you, I appreciate it 🙏. She has definitely came a long way in one year. This winter i think im going to C notch the rear frame, go to a 4/6 drop, and just to be different i wanna do a quadrasteer bed swap, and get the rear rims widened 3in to run a fat back tire. So still a little ways to go before im finished with her
@@TheKingCoopa dude that is so sic! 4/6 c-notch drop is perfect. That’s what I’m going for as well. You got this man I’ll definitely be watching and sharing this truck with my friends. They always appreciate a badass build 😎
@@NT.RACING thank you! Can't go wrong with a 4/6 drop. I might have to go with a little smaller tires though, so the front doesn't rub. Hard part for me is going to be finding a bed to swap it haha. But right now I'm looking for a new place, with more property and a bigger shop I can fit a lift in. About to list my current house for sale too, so just been a little busy with that, but we will get there 🤘
Great vid.! Very well explained.
Do you have to tune it after installing the intake?
Hey, any air flow or fuel changes then a tune is required. If you just swapped the intake, you could probably still drive it to the tuner.
GREAT VIDIEO!!! what exhaust?? doing the manifold swap on my 01! thanks for everything
For sure, glad I could help out some. The exhaust is 1 3/4" speed engineering long tube headers, with a catless Y pipe, single gibson muffler with gubson tips out the passanger side. Thanks for the support!
You literally are great! Thanks
Haha I appreciate it, hope it helps with the swap🤘
@@TheKingCoopa I’ve been trying to do little upgrades to my grandpas truck. Taking care of it over time has little bits of problems but I want it to have not only have good looks but I also want it to have performance upgrades like yours.
Oh nice, thats awesome! Yea it doesn't take much to make these trucks look good. Head lights, tail lights, stubby antenna, tint, color match the bumpers and your solid 👌
I also have another video showing all the performance mods I did, if your bored. Its still knowledgeable, but not as indepth. But for these LS motors, a cold air intake, mild camshaft, long tube headers, no cats, and a tune will really wake that truck up! Huge night and day difference. Especially if you get the tourqe management removed in the tune. You will have zero throttle response delay. But its harder on your tranny. And depending on the camshaft, you'll need a bigger stall converter. I have a 2600stall.
@@TheKingCoopa what type of air intake system do you have?
@@MADGENiUSProductions S&B Cold Air Intake. All the products are in the description of the video.
www.sbfilters.com/cold-air-intakes/1999-2008-silverado-sierra-intake-75-5036?variant_id=75
Good very informative video.
Thank you!
Good video sir. Thank you.
Its the Gen 4 LS Truck Intake. Its on isuzu npr with the 5.3/6.0
Oh nice. Yea the gen 4 and tbss are the same thing 🤘
Doing something similar… truck Norris cam, supporting valve train, TBSS intake manifold with 87mm gen4 TB, K&N intake, and Gen 2 ford lightning green top injectors. My shits going on an AWD Qudrasteer Denali though. The fun factor is way down compared to his rig.
Oh nice, thats awesome. Definitely sounds like a solid build. I'm glad you are going with the supporting valvetrain, I feel like alot of people skip that part on cam swaps. Is your truck an extended cab or crew cab?
Not sure if you have seen my newer videos, but I swapped to a quadrasteer bed, to run some 14 wide drag wheels (also AWD). And I swapped to a built 6.0/4l80e, makes 600whp on nitrous. Pretty fun little truck.
@@TheKingCoopa Extended cab. Yep I did springs push rods and trunions. Should have just done heads to bump compression up. I still think I’m like $1000 away from being finished. The injectors I want to use won’t work because data is too scarce so im going to maybe use the 30lbers I scavenged off the TBSS intake or just buy some flex fuel injectors and leave room for growth.
@@garretmonnet9397 for sure! Those crew cabs are starting to get really hard to find. Room for growth is always good!
Great tutorial guide! I have a LQ9 swap in jeep wrangler with the stock cable operated TB and intake, my question is in your video you talked about having to use the x-link when swapping TBs, but that only refers to the drive-by-wire throttle bodies right? If not, what else would I need for a 92 mm TB swap along with the TBSS intake swap as far as getting my cable driven TB to operate correctly with the intake swap?
Hey, sorry for the super late reply. I thought I replied to this a while ago, but I guess not. Since you are cable driven, you do NOT need the x link. You can either re-use your current throttle body, with a 3 bolt to 4 bolt adapter. Or you can upgrade to a 90mm cable driven throttle body. Make sure you get new gaskets. Besides that I think the only really big difference is that your supposed to have a bracket that mounts ontop of the intake to secure the throttle cables, right behind the throttle body. I know there is an aftermarket company that makes them, can't remember their name, but im sure you could get by without it.
You don’t need anything besides the bigger throttle body make sure it’s cable driven and you will just need a tune like you did before
For what a TBSS intake cost you can get the same results literally by having your stock truck intake manifold ported along with the throttle body and still come out cheaper than buying the TBSS intake.
If your balling on a budget, then yes. But actually comparing apples to apples, I don't think so. It would definitely help, and be cheaper, but a ported stock TB, I don't think will make the same CFM as a 90mm TB. Most guys say they gain 10-15hp on the intake swap, I don't think you can make all that HP up on a ported stock intake. I could be wrong. But I'd definitely be interested in looking at the CFM charts and dyne charts of the two comparisons.
@@TheKingCoopa I have seen the dyno numbers of ported stock truck intake/throttle body combos and yes it does make power and torque and it is substantial enough. A larger throttle body such as from say a 78mm to a 92mm does not mean you will make power. Most of the time the larger throttle body will actually hurt your power rather than help. But porting the stock truck intake and throttle body is a great way to make anywhere from 12-30HP on the dyno as these are the ranges of numbers I have seen according to what mods each truck has. I'm not pulling this out of my ass, I have seen it. Go on Instagram and look up @454chuy and you can see some of the dyno numbers on there. He is great at porting and the only person who does my port work.
Since you had to notch some of your fan off did you ever consider going with Electronic fan so you can free up that area gutting the shroud and fan setup.. just a curious thought that will feel a huge difference and benefit of efan setup.
Hey, yes I have! I will be doing a video of the swap as well. I already have the fans, and factory harness. Still have to pickup the larger radiator though. My next video will be of the coilover swap, then I'll be changing to 4.10 gearing. And at that point I'll be pulling the 4.8 to swap out to my LQ9 6.0, 2step, and a 200shot of nitrous. I'll be installing the E fans at the same time. Supposedly by eliminating the extra rotating weight, some people see a gain of 5-10hp from the swap. Thanks for the support!
I want to do my 03 Silverado I have a 09 nnbs intake complete with injectors and fuel rails and tb 87 mm plus coils so I think I only need the corvette filter ,xlink ,injector pig tails , and new intake gaskets and O ring
Sounds like you got it all down! Make sure with the xlink, you get the right one for a gold blade or silver blade throttle body. And you only need the corvette regulator if you have a return style fuel system (two fuel lines, instead of one)
I'm sure you will do just fine with the swap, good luck, and thanks for the support!
Wow well made video
Thanks, hope it helped out some 🤘
NBS already have this intake
Correct, I corrected that in the description and in a few comments
New injector harnesses? Obviously for TBSS nanifold.
Cooper what’s up bro! We went to corporals course together I didn’t know you had all this info to share back then lol I’m trying to build my cat eye rn I’d love the tips bro!
Hey bro, I know we already talked on instagram, but let me know if there is anything you need. Thanks for the support 🤘
What is the part number for the s&b intake that you were running? I was thinking about getting an intake, but if I am going to do the 92 mm throttle body I don’t think that the one for the stock will work with the upgrade.
When you installed your TBSS intake manifold, throttle body and X-link, did you have to get a tune after that, Ive seen some people that say that their truck will shut off or the throttle body doesn't work, but you mentioned you had a GM/AC Delco Throttle Body, ive seen a lot of knock off throttle bodies out there just didn't know if you had to get a tune immediately, I just purchased a TBSS intake with the OEM TBSS fuel injectors and stock TBSS throttle body, so interested in what you did. keep up the good work truck looks Nice!!
Hey, sorry for the late reply. If you do want to run the newer 90mm TB then you will need the X link adapter. Xlink stated it won't work with any of the knock off, ebay special TBs.
So technically any fuel or air flow changes you would need a tune to really maximize the add-ons, and to run properly. But if you do just the intake, with your stock TB, you will be fine. If you do the X link and 90mm Tb, you could probably drive it to the tuner. But if you swap out to the larger Injectors, then you will need a tune ASAP. The larger 36lb injectors caused my truck to run extremely rich, and would foul out a set of plugs in 5min of idle time. So I gave my tuner an extra $50 to come to me, so I didn't have to tow it to him. Hope that helps. Good luck on the swap 🤘
Good stuff...
Very informative video. I installed a TBSS intake on an LM7, 99 GMC Sierra. Had it tuned. All good. Runs great. However, I have a problem with the idle. I did install a fuel regulator keep it at 59 pounds. It will randomly idle down to about 400-300 rpm and sometimes stop altogether. When it is running well, it will idle at 600 rpm with the a/c on or off. Then randomly for no obvious reason it will idle down. Can you give my any idea in which direction I should go or what I should look for? Your assistance is appreciated. Thank in advance.
Hey sorry for the late reply. CZcams flagged your comment for some reason. So I had a similar situation happen with the truck. Where it kept trying to die at stop signs. I ended up switching to a speed density tune, and that solved my problems.
Awesome video... by chnace what size hose is it for the fresh air from passenger side to air intake?... ii need to tap a nipple on my air intake...
Hey, sorry for the late reply! I believe I used 3/8 hose.
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Nice explanation video
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Great video, thank you! In the cost summary you show $60 for injector cleaning.....have a link to who did that service for you?
Hey, I had my local tuner clean them for me. They usually run about 5$ an injector. Id check locally, before you send them off somewhere to get cleaned.
Can I just use the stock TBSS throttle body and just make sure the X-link adapter is for the correct blade color
Hey, sorry for the late reply! Honestly I'm not sure. Everytime I've seen anyone do the swap or all the research I did, everyone always swapped out the throttle body. Its definitely worth a try though, to try and save the extra money. Sorry I'm not much help with you on this one. Good luck though, let me know how it goes 🤘
Well done! I will be referring to this video several times for my swap. Question: will the TBSS throttle body work with this swap on my 04 Silverado 5.3?
Thank you, glad I could help out some. Im not sure if you can still use the tbss TB, being that it is from a newer body style, the wiring is different and sends different signals. Thats why I needed the Xlink, to convert all that over to the NBS harness. The xlink only works with gm or acdelco TBs. And it matters if you have a silver or gold blade, on the LS3 TBs. So im honestly not sure, sorry
How is the injector adapters working for you? I’ve had people suggest tapping into the stock injector harness instead of using the adapter
Awesome video!!! Question, What size speed engineering long tubes did you go with?
I went with 1 3/4. Tuner told me to go with that size. 5.3 l33 NA, ball park to be a 450-470 hp motor.
He said I could go with the 1 7/8 but 1 3/4 would be better.
Im not sure if its been commented or not but this wont really apply to the 2007+/NNBS trucks as they have this intake already.
Hey, thanks for the input. Its been mention a few time lol. I messed up in the video, and didn't catch it untill it was posted. I also added it in the description correcting my mistake. Thanks for the support 🤘
@@TheKingCoopa Sick Vid man. Thanks for posting.
@@ritchiepartsmechanical9420 i appreciate it 🙏.
They need to make one for the V-6 4.3
Vortex Sonoma S-10 . Why not ? We need power as well.
Haha for sure!! My nephew has a 4.3L in his single cab, he is planning to build. Ive seen a few make some good power with a turbo on it
If you pull the fuel pump fuse, start it til it dies there's a little less fuel mess.
That would definitely work too!
Do you still need Xlink if you have the TBSS throttle body? If not what is recommended? Thanks for taking the time to do this video huge help!
Hey, from the research I've done, yes you would still need it. The TBSS/NNBS throttle bodies use the newer wires and sends different signals than the older TB's. I think you can swap the pedal TAC module, and wiring from a Camaro to make it work. You can convert to a cable driven throttle body, but that will require more parts, and changing the tune. When it is all said and done I still believe the X link is the easiest and cheapest way around it. Don't quote me on that though. Hope that helps.
Awesome video! I recently picked up my tbss intake and am looking to install. One question i have before starting any kind of tear down is if I install it with the oem tbss fuel injectors (i believe 32lb) will stock rated fuel pump be able to supply enough pressure? ( Delphi pump, 28 gallon per hour avg, max psi 73). Thank you!
Hey, sorry for the late reply. Your stock fuel pump will do just fine. 32lb injectors really isn't anything crazy. If your motor is stock besides the intake, then I really wouldn't worry about bigger injectors or fuel pumps. If you ever decide to go more than that, I'd definitely recommend looking at some larger fuel pumps/injectors. My new setup is 42lb injectors with dual walbro 450s (capable of 1000hp) which is overkill for my setup. (built LQ9 makes 470whp, injectors are currently at 75% duty cycle), but I do plan to twin turbo it in the future. So I'll need bigger injectors when that day comes. Hope that helps, and id recommend you get it tuned. Especially since you have air flow and fuel changes. Thanks for the support and good luck!
@@TheKingCoopa no worries man! Thank you for the reply. I had reached out to a couple shops and they said it would be fine, probably not gonna go much crazier than this so I think the fuel system will be good. I did have a tuner in my area but am currently looking for a new one, do you have any recommendations in the ATL or North Georgia area?
@@tylergerding74 oh nice, glad you got some answers already. Im from northern Indiana. So I dont have a good recommendation for you. I would try to stay away from the mail in tunes. Your setup is super simple, but I believe an in person tune will always be better. They have the laptop/info right infront of them and can make adjustments on the fly.
But id just do some good research. There are some good tuners and crappy tuners out there. On average I pay about 300$ for a tune. Sometimes that includes dyno time. If anyone tries to charge you more than 500$, I'd stay away. Just my opinion. But id ask around on the local car Facebook pages. Im sure you will get the same tuner will start getting recomended multiple times to you.
@@TheKingCoopa okay gotcha, yeah almost every high rated tunes around me are around 6-700 dollars once all is said and done. I'll definitely check around and see what some guys are posting on marketplace, thank you man!
@@tylergerding74 ooof.. supply and demand i guess. Good luck!!
Doing a 5.3 swap in a 1995 S10 , using this TBSS intake, will I have hood clearance issue's with the stock hood. Trying to make between 350- 390 whp , anything over that in this little truck will take away the fun of a daily driver. Would like to retain a sleeper look.
hey, sorry for the late reply. the tbss intake is almost the same height as the stock truck intake. so if you know the 5.3 intake will clear, than the tbss intake should clear. sounds like it will be a sweet truck!
I did this swap to my 06 Sierra and it threw a vacuum leak code. I swapped out the MAP sensor and it went away for a while and came back. Did you run into this issue?
I tried the break parts cleaner around the gasket area and nothing. Retighten every bolt, checked the lines.
Damn, you keep it 💯💪 have a 2015 in a 99 LS give me some tips for horses
Hey, if both trucks are stock. The first mods I would do: 1. Long tube headers 2. Remove the catletic converters (if you don't need smog tested) 3. S&W Cold air intake. 3. Camshaft swap 4. A good tune. Those will wake the truck up! Huge night and day difference. Depending on the camshaft size, you might wanna a little bigger stall/tourqe converter. But those would definitely be the first things I'd do. After that, your looking into more upgraded heads, head work, and an intake swap.
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@@dedricknight8598 for sure 🤘
What brand headers recommend👍🐴😜
@@TheKingCoopa can I start off with a btr stage 3 cam kit
Are the tbss injectors 32#? Sorry Idk if it’s mentioned in the video already.
I’m going through a complete brain fart over the evap system and how it’ll fit into my swap since my lm7 is going into a foxbody. Would I just block those off? Sorry if it’s an obvious question, I just wanna make sure I have no vacuum leaks or running issues
Yea, just block it off, and make sure your fuel tank/cell has a breather for the fuel to expand and contrast when it gets hot or cold. And try to make the breather higher than the fill/gas cap. So when you fill up, it doesn't piss out the breather
Do you have to get a tune as tuning is a little difficult for California boys
If you just do the intake swap, you should be fine. But if you change the throttle body or injectors. Then a tune is definitely recommend
Hey i order the adapters and injectors from your link and the injectors didnt fit on the adapter
ooooff, You could probably return the adapters. I'd double check the connector style on the injectors, and give GAP or ICTBuillet a call. They will probably have the correct adapters for you. Sorry about that!
what fuel pump would u recommend im building a 5.3 11.1 comp Afr heads not a crazy cam 425 -450 hp any one make a drop in pump that would pump enough thanks for your help
Hey, I would assume a single walbro 450 would do the trick. You can plumb it yourself in the existing fuel bucket. Its a little bit of work, but can be done. If you were wanting a complete drop in unit, with a hot wire/harness. Then Chris1313 racing is your guy (link below). He makes some nice stuff. I'm running his kit. Dual walbro 450s, drop in unit, with his billet top hat, and dual relay harness. The truck curently makes 580whp on nitrous since this video.
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Is this list also for a 5.3 ???? I have a 06!!! Love the vid!!!!
Yup! 4.8L, 5.3L, 5.7L, and 6.0L
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What did you use for a intake cover.
I have 2003 tahoe 5.3 flex, will set up work for me??
Yup, it for sure will!
Did you have any issues with your brakes after this swap? If so, how did you fixed?
This shouldn't change anything with your brakes, assuming you connected the brake booster vacuum hose to the back of the intake.