The History of Hell
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- Hell is well-known in popular culture and is a widespread belief among Christian communities today. But where did this doctrine come from? Jewish apocalyptic literature from the 2nd Temple period reveals the idea was evolving even before the rise of Christianity.
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Bibliography:
Pope John Paul II quote, General Audience July 28, 1999: w2.vatican.va/content/john-pau...
John Collins, "The apocalyptic imagination: an introduction to jewish apocalyptic literature."
John Collins, “Apocalpyticism in the Dead Sea Scrolls”
Kim Papaioannou, “The Geography of Hell in the Teaching of Jesus, Gehenna, Hades, the Abyss…"
Aristotle Papanikolaou, Elixabeth Prodromou (eds.), "Thinking Through Faith: New Perspectives from Orthodox Christian Scholars," p. 195
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You are one sexy scholar! Looking at you is sin for sure! 🤣
Thanks for your contributions! I recently discovered your channel, and am loving all that I see in your catalogue. I hope you have a drive to keep submitting content, as it is well thought out. This kind of discussion is lacking in the world today.
@@Gewaldro Looking is not the sin, lusting with your imagination is.
Dear Sir:
Really really enjoy your scholarship! I'd love to see you do something on the influence of Roman Stoicism on the New Testament authors! Thank you!
I think Pope John Paul 2nd was quoting an earlier church father. Maybe Thomas Aquinas
I learned about sin in math class.
inon: well, the Bible does say "go forth and multiply."
Took me a moment to get this one.
If there were two of you, would you be learning about co-sin? I'm sorry, I'm going off on a tangent here.
That is why i never paid attention.
I learned about sin ‘cos I committed so many of them.
Sorry, I went off on a bit of a tangent there.
I love that you’re not biased, I can’t even tell if you’re and atheist or a theist and that’s the way it should be for these historical videos. more youtubers should take notes from you.
Agreed
A sign of a logical educated mind, who found the answers himself through study instead of listening to a 10th grade dropout pastor who is NEVER challenged... ; ))
@@davidcooley275 or an edgy athiest youtuber who was abused in a cult and now hates theists and they surround themselves in an echo chamber
@@--------352 This is a justifiable reason to hate theists tho lol. It is much easier to think "you suffered abuses from ONE group of theists, it doesn't mean that any theist will abuse you" from the perspective of someone who wasn't abused in a sect. However it is needless to say that if you go after the history even to justify your distaste for religions, you may have a way more solidified base for your arguments.
@@vesuv1u5 if someone's daughter was killed by an athiest does it give him a right to hate athiests
If they demonetize this then they're dumb; this is both a religious and historical analysis and is for educational purposes. There's nothing offensive or extreme that would warrant above a PG rating by any stretch of the imagination.
It's not about what is offensive or extreme. It's about whether a company wants their product associated with religious topics.
Well, it's really about whether an automated bot is able to differentiate between the two actually.
Cuckoo Phendula yep
Ok, if we're gonna go down this hole, then it's really about whether the advertisers perceive the bot as capable of reliably making the appropriate decision.
CZcams follows a certain ideology, there is no such a religious, historical analysis or educational purposes, if it doesnt like, it will be demonetize.
This is the vsauce of religion
Yeah, if vsauce showed you how your beliefs are poorly plagiarized from the older beliefs of other peoples but then told you it's still legit on its own. Ok
....or is He?
*vsauce sounds*
@@markallieu7097 He is...
Its way to go before we can say this
It is also worth noting that the terms we use in the modern languages are derived either from the Germanic "Hellheim" or the Hellenistic "Hades", both originally describing cold, dark and boring places rather than something hot, burning and painful.
Also, both words are from people groups that the Biblical authors would have considered wicked pagans.
This lack of sense extremely bothers me , when you ignore the literary origins and actual texts and BELIEVE THAT ENGLISH TRANSLATION Is something actual then you go like this . Basic Education is necessary .
Jahannam is the particular word,if you dont know that , consider reading Quran even if you do so for studying purpose
@@ANNIHILATOR135 yes, just wanted to say exactly the same.
As was the original Jewish underworld of Sheol.
Now I'm interested in the history of Heaven, has the idea of Heaven/Paradise changed too, what's its history I wonder. Awesome video as always, love your channel.
Francis L. This would be an interesting topic
Very.
It's interesting - when Jesus spoke of Heaven originally, he was talking about a literal physical place on Earth you would go that would be great. Over time it became more and more spiritual. A LOT of what Jesus spoke about has a more direct and literal translation that we really think about.
Jesus talked about the kingdom of God. He used proverbs to explain the concept to people. The kingdom is also something you enter in your lifetime through Jesus, hence being born again into the kingdom. Then after death, according to an epistle from Paul, you lose your physical body, and enter a physical heaven, in a new body. The entire gospel books talk about the kingdom, and so do biblical prophecies, so heaven is actually a very in depth concept, with some places in the bible describing what it looks like, that there will be no sun, and God himself will provide light etc
Here are interesting questions answered from the Bible about what Heaven is.
www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/about-spirit-realm/
Paradise, in future as in the past, will be on earth.
www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-gods-kingdom-will-do/
So glad you encluded the Orthodox Christian view of the river of fire, and reasonably well. It is usually omitted or ignored.
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Are you orthodox?
That's so awful! How can people think that one deserves unending torment and torture simply for doubting?
Religion
The creator made the rules. You must follow.
@@eonhardy5383 any sadistic being that would create such a place and a system by which most people would end up there, wouldn't be worthy of even an ounce of praise or worship.
Luckily there is no evidence whatsoever that such a place exists.
The worlds an awful place sometimes and who would we be to question
kevin rhea We’re the people living in it. We have a right to.
Fear is the best way to control the masses in a dualistic world.
Everyone is in need of an enemy. The more depraved and despicable they are, the greater and more heroic you are.
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I'm the Grendel, Devil by deed.
Wow, you made that quote?
@@praisethelordgriffith8338
"Everyone is in need of an enemy." ? Yeah.
You can be even greater and even more heroic without antagonism of, and towards, enemies. Conflict doesn't really make a man morally great or heroic, but understanding and merciful self-control, based on spiritual brotherly love, most certainly can, and always does. It's the main reason the misled and murdering thief, Barabbas, while tied to a cross, was so attracted to Jesus of Nazareth, a TRUE HERO, and, because of his Free Will decision to become righteous, was instantly welcomed into the kingdom of heaven by the Master.
@@davidoverstreet2875,
Guess I would agree with your appraisal of Jesus if he had shown more respect for the mother. The mother that raised him at great peril to her own life, by addressing her as "woman" in two of the only three-time he addressed her at all.
He may have been a hero to some but he comes off as something of a spoiled prince to me. But Hercules was another son of a god that had a problem with his ego.
I'm still wondering why this video came up on my feed.
Any religion that relies on an ultimatum of "obey or be punished" is itself inherently flawed. Obedience for a good cause won't be forced, but rather embraced by those persuasion seeks to convert.
Well, no. It definitely helps to say negative and positive actions yield consequences.
@@hismajesty6272 "A God who rewards and punishes is inconceivable for the simple reason that a man's actions are determined by necessity, external and internal; so that in God's eyes he cannot be responsible for the motions it goes through. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear and punishment and hope of reward after death. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls. I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures."
-Albert Einstein
Wicked video. I'm really enjoying your content.
It's about on your middle brow level.
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"Wicked". I see what you did there.
Shannon Q
I love wicked videos
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So much content this week from my fav creators! I can already tell that I am going to enjoy this upload!
Post exilic Jews also borrowed a lot of their dualistic understanding from Zoroastrian thought. It's very cool, the two Faith's have had interesting interaction.
They didn't borrow it from them... if so, zoroastrian borrowed from the Israelites(pre-exilic jews) their culture and dualistic understanding.
@@morchario that is the scholarly consensus. Captivity and post exilic Judaism are highly influenced by and respond often to Zoroastrianism theology they would have been surrounded by. In the same way that Jewish interaction with Hellenistic society was a big developmental moment for Jewish thought, so was the interaction with the Persians.
@@antoniafimbres5907 most of modern world's cultural ideas and most of literature is based on judaism. Even Islam and Christianity is based on it. Judaism is the base of this world and without jewish people the world wouldn't be as developed as today and would look much different. Jewish people contributed to this world more than any people, in everything.
@@morchario I don't doubt Jewish people being highly influential, but that doesn't mean they've never received influence.
Yasmin Thomas Judaism was heavily influenced by Nilian, Canaanite, Mesopotamian, Arabian and Hellenistic cultures as well. It would be interesting if someone made notes of all the influences on the bible and where they came from by looking at comparative myths and cultures.
Glad you included the Orthodox view, accurate if brief, which is usually overlooked.
This is one of the most informative pages I've come across. Thank you for your hard work in compiling this information together.
The judgement of the dead existed in the Mediterranean way before the hellenistic era, I mean, it existed in Egyptian religion and in Persian religion. So yea, that's my only quip here.
Javier THANK YOU!!!
Javier Yes the Egyptians believed in the Hall of Double Truth(Double Maat) where each dead soul was led to Osiris lord of the underworld awaiting the scales to see if they are righteous or wicked. This foreshadows the two divisions of the afterlife in later Jewish and Christian beliefs.
I don’t think the Egyptians influenced Judaism that much. The Exodus was likely written in response to the Egyptian revolt around 400 BCE and details fictional events. Ezekiel never mentions Moses, which is odd given his obsession with the law and mention of various historical characters.
The reality is, all religions as we know them today borrowed heavily from a wide variety of pre-existing religions and continue to evolve to this day.
Weird how completely different places talk about similar things 🤔 as if it’s real which it is
This is already one of my favorite videos from you, it cleared up a lot of things for me and I learned a lot
Thank you for dispelling with the valley of Hinnom garbage dump myth!
No problem! It’s a deeply entrenched fiction!
ReligionForBreakfast I don’t know how many times I’ve heard it preached in my church. Of course, my pastors also think Genesis 1-11 was written by Moses and didn’t have any Babylonian influences from the exilic period either. Oh to be an American evangelical in the 21st century lol
Yep, I've heard (and repeated) this one multiple time before. Now I know!
Hmmm. This sounds like an archeologists question. @@ReligionForBreakfast
Yeah, I'd heard that one for years and believed it.👹👿😈
I love how u r so focused when talking... It must be a great effort u put in collecting information from various sources and putting them into words.
Thanks for that
Excellent presentation - scholarly and unbiased - well researched.
Thanks Andrew, your point about the historical, and evolving nature of religions is important.
Videos like this, made by you and other quality content creators, are why I absolutely adore _CZcams._ It represents the absolute best of the platform. The polar opposite of the Logan Paul's, the mindless, and perhaps even damaging, videos. I don't say this because you are speaking of religion, but because you are sharing _knowledge_ Thank you so much for the work you do and the videos you provide.
Thank you for the encouragement. I firmly believe that there are countless CZcamsrs doing real damage (conspiracy theorists, partisan pundits, etc.), and I hope my channel does a little modicum of good to counter that.
@@ReligionForBreakfast If you don't mind me asking, what religion-based conspiracy theories have you come across in your studies that annoy or concern you the most?
Aww man. Don’t tell me my fundamentalist teachers got this stuff wrong??? What am I supposed to do now, change my brainwashing?
- This is not the theology you are looking for.
Yes. You've been brainwashed. #NOHELL
David Wilson Atheist go home
Yep, the Pope of Bumblescum Alabama was less than honest.
@@Donna-vh5ym Tell that to the average citizens or runts of North Korea
Thank you for introducing such a difficult topic in such a thoughtful way. Religious ideas do develop historically and organically.
Ahhh thank you so much for putting the sources in the description, really interesting read!! Thank youuu
How does this channel only have 90k subs? It’s by far one of the most informative pages on CZcams.
I recently discovered your channel and I love it. Maybe an episode on the history of the Devil and how other religions shaped the modern idea we have of it?
So happy to finally see something about Hellenistic beliefs in your videos!
I'm surprised more emphasis is being placed on Hellenistic influence than on Persian ones. The afterlife described in the apocalyptic period has more in common with Zoroastrian belief than Greek. Also, the character of Daniel was in Persia, the Second Temple Period was initiated by the Persian king Cyrus the Great, and Ezra the scribe, who is traditionally credited as the primary editor of the Old Testament, had been the cupbearer of Cyrus before being sent to oversee the reconstruction of the temple.
Just noticed this was debated in the comments last year. Apologies for the repeat.
Presenting this info, from all sorts of religions, unbiased and without judgment is really awesome.
I love the sense of humor many of the watchers of this channel bring to the comments section.
Also, fantastic videos! Concise, genuine, and great summaries of complex topics!
NO mention of Zoroastrianism. Tisk tisk.
I don't think there's been found any direct reference or quotation that clearly connects Xianty and Zoroastrianism. That's been a long time held theory, but without any concrete evidence other than similarities of the idea of good/evil dualism.
@@cernowaingreenman
Not true. You are familiar with Daniel in the lions den? Jews were present in ancient Persia and were influenced by Zoroastrianism. Known fact.
Daniel was about the Babylonian captivity. Persia came later.
Douglas Phillips and the Persians conquered Babylon and let the Jews return to Judea (this is why Cyrus, the first Persian emperor and a zoroastrian is called “messiah”) thus starting the second Temple period of Jewish theology which also just so happened to mark the beginning of Jewish apocalypticism. Seems fairly conclusive to me. Or else did the Jews just happen to adopt dualistic apocalyptic beliefs after they were liberated by a venerated figure who already had those beliefs?
2degucitus: Well, yes, The Persians conquered Babylon, which had conquered Israel, so it was part of the Persian empire and was influenced by it.
Just one verse. And somehow Hell exists. And Dante's Inferno is literal fanficion with the Seven Death Sins.
"Tartarus...? What's that? ...Sounds like toothpaste"
-Junpei Iori 2009
@Jubei Yang "fool, they ordered me to do it"
@Jubei Yang" take care arbiter, what you say is heresy!"
I love References
Great video! I very much appreciate your show, and always enjoy hearing what you have to say.
I'm curious about the lack of mention of Zoroastrianism. I've been away from the game (academic religious studies) for some time now, but I had received the impression that Zoroastrian dualistic cosmology had impacted second temple Judaism and furnished the ideas of paradise (which has a Persian etymology itself) and fiery torment. Although I know the dating of the ideas can be a little hazy, and I'm not sure I trust my memory at this point, but I believe the Zoroastrians by this time also shared in an apocalyptic world view, looking forward to a coming messianic figure, the Sayoshant, who would bring about the apocatastasis of all things. If I remember correctly they believed that all people would cross rivers of fire which would consume the unrighteous but "feel as warm milk" (quoted from memory, not a source so I do apologize) to the righteous. So, am I just horrendously out of date with the current scholarship on the subject? Thanks!
If I remember correctly ( I read it in a book about Mythology ) the River is made of all the molten metal of all mountains, and is meant to purify the sinners ( it'll be more difficult and painful for them to traverse it)
nice!
Zoroastrianism isn't monotheistic, though.The Zoroastrians worship Yazatas who are know in the West as "angels". But this is purely a semantic differance. In all ways but what you call them, Yazatas are gods.
Linkolan Kaczynskinite in that sense Christianity isn’t monotheistic either. Particularly Catholicism even though they go through all kinds of gymnastics and semantic tricks to reach the conclusion that they are monotheistic. In reality, the saints, the angels, and the Virgin Mary are treated as deities in all but name. The whole concept of the trinity itself was invented to accommodate the obvious existence of two distinct deities (the father and his son Christ) in a religion that simultaneously claimed to be monotheistic.
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Oh how I wish I had access to this information when I was a 15 year old kid having my mind twisted by a "I've been saved" mother and an insidious cult I was forced into. This video and others like it can free people's minds from so called "fundamentalist" beliefs.
Looking into the bright side
Less and less people are accepting indoctrination now days and even theist are draging their belief into our standers rather than drag us back to medevil ages
Great video, a Romanian author just finished his book about the idea of Paradise and here we find the counter of it :D
Love your videos man. Really fair and balanced across the board, with top notch info
Wonderful stuff. You are now my number 1 favourite CZcams channel. Love all your work. Thanks.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
~Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lol God is real bro
@Airock the Great no it doesn't
@FreeThinking TruthSeeker right now actually. Just pray to him. And believe in you heart that Jesus was raised from the dead.Mattew 7:11 Ask for anything and it will be given to you
@FreeThinking TruthSeeker 1 John 5:14-15 ^14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. ^15And if we know that he hears us-whatever we ask-we know that we have what we asked of him.John 16:24 ²⁴Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
@Airock the Great you probably didn't believe redo it again but this time BELIEVE
Watching these videos really makes me realize more and more about the importance of religious studies. Studying ABOUT religion feels similar to that one guy in Plato's cave who wandered off and tried to tell the others later about the broader context of the real world versus what they currently believed.
You havent cottoned on that its all just made up yet ? You need to study man made stories how pointless .
@@gowdsake7103 "those who does not learn from history are bound to repeat it" Be it man made or actual spiritual, as an atheist, I still deem stuff like these are important. We made mistakes and we must learn from those mistakes. Through religion, we can study the political climate of the older times and their living conditions.
@@usagi2934 I agree in that religious wars are continuing daily even now the religious factions have no intentions of stopping .
As for studying history its interesting, it may have a few lessons but studying the history of weaving or swords even trebuchets or religious teachings of the far past have little to offer
@@gowdsake7103 are you saying that knowledge of the past are less than mediocre? If there were people who was content with the rules of religion, I doubt it offers little. They may not be the key to the second scientific breakthrough but I'm sure they can teach us a few more things about philosophy. I don't know man, personally for me, any kind of knowledge is good, especially the one from the past because I'm sure there are more to them than what we see at face value
thank you for making these videos they are pretty great.
this channel is amazing, i learn so much from each of your videos
I believe it's about trying to cross the veil without shedding all your earthly attachments. When you've lived a good life and you've let go of any regret you cross without attachment and you kind of rejoin universe or whatever. It's such a beautiful way to think of dying. Nothing wrong with that.
One of the most damaging misinterpreting of the Bible is Aion (eon) it is translated, into forever into world, and dozens of other words that have no relations to each other. The word everlasting is translated from the word aion. Aion is a period of indifferent time. for instants, the time Christ left until he return or it was also the time Johna spent in the belly of the whale.
Love your videos! Very helpful and concise information!
These videos are awesome, thanks man!
You should check out Ursula Le Guin's description of death in her Earthsea series. I found it so interesting and the resolution in The Other Wind.
I'm surprised you don't talk more about the influence of Persian religion on these thoughts of afterlife.
I doubt he understand europian religion as well as he does abrahamic religion.
Thank you very much for your effort and for everything you do for us ♥️
Thanks for this enlightening information
I really love Dante's inferno. I think it makes more sense that one cannot just get away with death, but need to go through the purgatory and return to heaven. A refusing heaven will turn away people from faith.
Purgatory established 597 a.d. pope may have been gregory. Great little money maker.
Has the dualism of Zoroastrianism and its concept of a fight between the forces of light and those of darkness been considered? The elite of Judah was in close proximity to their Persian overlordswho were of this faith.
Glaring omission!
Even the NT writers were aware of it. This is why the story of the Magi are included. If the Magi - the most respected experts at that time on Astronomical signs and prophecy - validated Jesus' Lordship and birth, then it's for real!
As always, excellent, thank you!
Thank you, very interesting. Excellent video.
Can you explain the specific category of "evangelical?" It's a difficult subject to Google because the definitions seem too vague to make delineations between particular sects/beliefs/practices
Hi, Andrew! I just discovered your channel and I'm finding it awesome! Thanks for sharing :) I am very interested in the subject and I am even considering getting a degree. I was wondering if you could recommend a book that would be good to start reading? I would really appreciate it! Thanks a lot :)
Go to amazon purchase the novel titled "the day satan called" by author bill scott. It was in the fall of 1988 the week before halloween.
Thank you for the lesson
Awesome video
Sheol seems the most accurate view. it's just like a purgatory. you take away one's vision, hearing, smell, taste and tactil senses and leave him with only his thought in a room. there won't be any distractions and the human would only think about his/her life and what he/she did good or wrong, critisize ideas and all. then on the Judgement Day(let's just call it J-Day) the human will receive his/her treatment. going next to him or perish for an ''eternity''(as no one can really tell how this concept of time really works out). what do you think?
seems to be*
Sounds like what they try and recreate at Camp X Ray. Sensory depervation is a particularly heinous method of torture...
"Those who lived a wicked life without a relationship with God."
Why do Christians always seem to think these two things are related. That one excludes the other?
It's not. There are many wicked people who have a relationship with God, and lots of Good people who have no relationship with God.
It was this aspect of faith, more than anything that led me away from God to begin with. It was the first question that I could not get a satisfactory answer to.
Pascal's wager left out an important detail. That is, the nature of God. Can a just God reject a person who had never ever heard of him, because of when or where they were born?
in response to "Can a just God reject a person who had never ever heard of him, because of when or where they were born?" matthew 24:14 says the following.
"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come".
since it is logical for the judgment of the world to be at the end of the world (when all is said and done), this passage seems to suggest that judgment will only come when all have heard the gospel.
Remember, religions are internally diverse. There are plenty of Christians who believe that righteous non-believers will go to Heaven on the basis that they didn't know they were rejecting God. There's biblical support too; both the old testament and the new one show God blessing righteous non-believers (the midwives in Exodus, The Canaanite woman in Matthew, etc).
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I’m Christian and I don’t believe in god
Jesus talks about people who will call Him "Lord, Lord" but whom He never knew, and there will be people who didn't know they were searching for Him.
Please do a part 2! 🔥
presented very well, facts, subbed
For those of us who are non-religious and not familiar with the differences in doctrines this is an amazing look at an alien culture.
Fun topic! You deserve more views.
You should consider summarising the key points with simple diagrams, they are a great visual aide that provides a good supplement to a video of a head talking directly at you.
Not that there's anything wrong with your head of course, but having some reminders of the gist of each video will make it a lot more engaging (and it's probably easier than rendering a photo)
Good video, I always enjoy the bigger picture you sketch. It's why I'm still waiting on that Ba'hai video you said you were gonna do. I think more people should learn about the lesser known abrahamic religions.
Great job!
One other aspect of Greek influence is the word Tartarus itself. That was the pit or abyss beneath the earth where the Titans were confined after they lost to the Olympians in the Titanomachy.
The religious, knowing the unknowable for 4000 years
I think that's why believers also call it Faith.
I believe and have faith in Gods truth, justice and every word.
If mans history be true I'd feel ridiculous to having faith those in any position of authority will simply do the right and responsible thing and have no personal stake in the outcome of any policy prior to decision making.
1984 ideology well underway.
Given that neanderthals buried their dead with flowers, I think you're low-balling that timeline
@@spencerkoelle184 maybe it was just to help with the smell.
Welcome back, I missed you.
Right on time! thank you!
Zoroastrianism had a much more profound influence on Judaism then Hellenism, in my oppinion.
@bbonner422 It would seem that Persian and Canaanite paganism would have had more impact on Judaism becoming monotheistic, right? Monotheistic Judaism was not prevalent outside of the Levites, the priestly class, up until the exile when they needed to make it clear that pagan idolatry is a sin, right? I may be wrong about that though.
Judaism maybe effected zoroatrianism and hellanism, not the other way around. Judaism's Ideas were invented before those two were exist. Sorry to tell you.
@@morchario Why do you keep spouting this falsehood on every comment? Anyone that has done any decent level of study on the topic knows that Judaism had several influences.
@@getasimbe believe me, I know better than you about judaism. And I know it had been influenced. But the bible wasn't influenced by hellanism or zoroastrianism. That was my point
@@morchario That makes no sense. How can you equate Judaism and the Bible? And the OP's point was that Judaism was influenced by Zoroastrianism more than Hellenism, a point which has nothing to do with the Bible. Sounds like you're trying so hard to defend something nobody even brought up.
Simply a beautiful, beautiful channel mashallah. May Allah ﷻ increase you in knowledge and may He make us all among the successful
Interesting and factual, thank you.
I love your content, and had I a another buck to spare I'd gladly pitch in. But I just started university in Oslo and oh god the prices are high. That said, great video on a fascinating topic. Thank you.
Love the creative Patreon plug. I have heard the thing about Gehenna being a garbage dump, seems to be a common misconception. A few of these points I had heard through Michael Heiser’s podcasts-things like the Book of Enoch, the Watchers and Sheol. I don’t know why this topic fascinates me, but it does lol!
You didn't go far enough back in time. It' all begins with the Egyptian belief in an afterlife...
Belief in an afterlife seems to go as far back as we have any record
It goes back farther than that, Mario.
Another killer video! This stuff is so interesting!!
you are a gift man that was so professional
I would love to see more source material on Gehenna (Ge Hinnom). I’ve read a bit about it and been there in real life. I’ve never heard anyone dispute the fact that it was used as a garbage dump.
Interesting thing, in the Quran it's jahanam, which is originally a Persian word.
I am surprised that no connection was made to the Zoroastrian concepts of light and dark as good and evil, and the Zoroastrian idea of a battle at the end of time between Spenta Mainyu and Angra Mainyu. It seems to me the introduction of these concepts from Persia influenced New Testament ideas of a war between the powers of good and evil.
Thank you for this informative video
I was wondering yesterday when you’d upload
I love this. Can you do one on Heaven and Purgatory next?
bigphil2695 purgatory not supported by the Bible
But people do believe in it
there is no such thing is purgatory.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 That doesn't stop people from believing in it.
@@godgivenglory5842 it is supported by some books in the bible ..apocryphal books..which most binle dnt have
Its about control. Fear is always used by priests and others to maintain control.
I like your dig at the ad algorithm. It's torture for the viewers as well. Sometimes funny, in an ironic way. Like when I watch a video exposing false teachers promoting prosperity gospel get interrupted by someone telling me how to make a lot of money!
Interesting topic! I think the rest of my afternoon will involve your channel. Subscribed :)
"Religion for Breakfast" is apt. It's 6:30AM and I'm eating cereal.
Looking forward to see it myself
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Experiencing terror yet bieng strangely attracted to it because i felt that it was the purest form of spirituality there is. There is great danger in me for those who do not understand this shall make a great miss and go down to the pit with the dogs of reason....1904joinus even thoughts or curiosity of what is and what will be have set you in stone. We are many, repeat thy come from nowhere thy come from never...giveustime
@@presence9745 take your meds, dear.
meds have left the chat
You are the beast you worship
Great vid. Few audio issues I think but really good content!
ery interesting and well done video!
Sheol isn't really an afterlife. The Bible says that the dead know nothing, that they do not praise God; it describes them as being "asleep". There doesn't seem to be a "life" aspect to Sheol, idioms and parables aside, rather it's like a grave for souls.
Gehenna isn't Hades. Hades is the Greek term used in the New Testament for Sheol, Gehenna is the "lake of fire". Gehenna is associated with fire, whereas Hades never is, with the exception of the use of the word "flame" in a single parable (The rich man and Lazarus). Were Gehenna and Hades synonymous, Revelation 20:14 wouldn't make sense, as it says Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. Body and soul are said to be destroyed in Gehenna (second death), whereas in Hades, souls are said to be asleep.
Tartarus is the pit/abyss described in the Bible that serves as a prison for demons and (later on) Satan. Some say it is within Hades/Sheol, but it should be noted that this place is not described as a "grave" for those in it, nor does it say that they are "asleep" therein.
Based on what the Bible says, Hades/Sheol, Gehenna, and Tartarus are not interchangeable, nor are they proper "afterlifes". Hades/Sheol is a soul grave, Gehenna is were an unrighteous one may go AFTER being resurrected (i.e. not dead anymore), and Tartarus has nothing to do with humans or death per se.
Thanks for the video, it really helped understand some concepts a little better. So far I haven't lived a very good life, I was into drugs and alcohol since I was 12 and lied a lot, I declared myself an atheist when I was 13 and was so full of hubris. I also tried to take my own life twice but failed, it was due to hallucinations from paranoid schizophrenia, I couldn't take it anymore. I was admitted to a mental hospital for 11 months, over my bed there was a crucifix and I began to wonder... since then I've found my faith in god and I am trying to understand it all, again thanks for the video, bless
A schizophrenic believing in god is not the flex you think it is. Hope you get better and come back to reality.
dude thats almost exactly my life... its rough drugs mental health prayers for you pray for me
Nice job!
Excellent video: subscribed.
Happy Halloween!
And to you too!
@@ReligionForBreakfast Ever consider getting an exorcist priest role?
What this video completely and shockingly misses is that most of these ideas existed in Zoroastrian religion hundreds of yeas ago which was state religion of Persian empires of that time, and during their time in Babylon (which became second capital of Persians later) they had great exposure to it. Also second temple of Solomon was built by Persians (Cyrus the great) and you also these ideas appeared during that time. It is pretty obvious that Zoroastrian influence was very profound. Even linguistic evidences support this, for example word paradise is equivalent of word pardus in Persian or wird devil is derived from deeva and so on
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Great vídeo