Tenere 700 - Modification for Trail & Travel
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- The aim was to modify the bike for both long distance travel, camping and trail work (Think light part of the Trans Euro Trail). Protection was a key factor in my decision making and I also wanted to keep the bike (relatively) light. Did i get it right? Let me know in the comments below.
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Have you been eating bananas without cutting the ends off? 😂 Where do you come up with these ideas... they are absolutely brilliant. You should really consider the rear brake fix from Camel ADV, makes the rear brake useful again! Cheers Uncle 🥃
Haha😂 I’m waiting for my wife to see this video. She thinks the bike came as standard with all this crap on it. When she finds out I added about €2000 of bolt on parts I’m a dead man! Still I can always ride off into the sunset on my new bike. Anyway, let me make a note of that for future reference „Camel ADV brake fix“, those twin peg things you did a video on, oh and I’m slowly getting the full Eastbound trail tool kit…Jesus it never ends😂😂…now where’s my credit card…
@@GreenString Hahaha 😂🙌🏻 Well, if you need to stay low for a while, where she can't find you. I have a spot here for you 🙈🇳🇴
@@tshansen Cheers brother,. 😎👍🏻
Great video Steve , I have the Kriega kit as well , top money but quality kit , out of interest what kit do you put in the rack pack , I’ve had one a while now and swap between that and the lone rider Overlander 48 , depending on what I carry and as you said in an early video you’ve got to have self control when packing and you don’t need half as much as you think , stay well and ride safe mate 👌👍
@@dafloate1168 Hi, good question. If you mean the small 6 ltr bag on the back, well that’s just inner tube, tools are tyre lube. If you mean the 40 ltr Kriega bag on the back then I use that for my tent, camp cot, chair and to be honest I haven’t thought about what else I can Lob in there yet as I need to play with this configuration. I did trial it all a few months ago and amazingly I could fit my usual load out I carry on the GS but it was tight. This time round my target is around 15 kg excluding water and food as that will always fluctuate. I think I will make a „preparation“ video before I go on my big tour end of next month and see if I can put my money where my mouth is….we will see😂
I have about 10,000 miles now on my '21 model here in Alaska and here a couple thoughts for what it's worth. Although the factory crash bars look ok and are easy to strap bags to, I took them off my bike because you can't get the front fairings off without removing them and I don't like that they are bolted thru parts of the engine castings, like the small bolt down low in front and where it goes thru the bike above the clutch arm. I also have the heavier bash plate like you, and I like it but it does let more debris thru and onto the headers than I ever thought it would. Good to keep the mud and junk washed off as it will quickly etch the pipes. A rear brake upgrade (Camel ADV's 'The Fix') is very worthwhile! I got about 6,000 miles out of the factory tires....now running the Motoz Tractionator GPS and very pleases so far! Favorite feature on this bike is the engine....hope you grow to love yours as much as I love mine!
The points you mention have been noted. I’m already sort of regretting the front crash bars. But I did manage to get the front panel off without removing them, I just used the 10mm spanner to get to the lowest bolt, that works (just). I’m also glad I didn’t fit the centre stand, I’m trying to keep this bike light(ish). I must admit it’s reassuring to read about a rider that’s spanked some decent miles on their bike and is still in love with it.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇬🇧
@@GreenString I do love it!!
I have a similar setup on my T7 but as it is a Rally Edition some parts like the radiator protection were factory standard.
I decided for Enduristan Blizzard in L over the Kriega OS. My camping gear fits in a Tornado 2 in L (51 Liters).
The OEM head light protection is the nicest one on the market.
One if my first changes was a stronger linear spring for the rear shock from OFF-THE-ROAD in Germany, same as the Burkbusters (black aluminium frame from SW-MOTECH) and adjustable clutch and break levers. Looks like you got the updated Barkbusters with this curvy mount 👍🏼
After a 6.500+ km ride to the North Cape last year I gave my seat to a local upholstery with 30 years of experience to modify my seat. It's about 2.5 cm wider now and offers much better comfort.
I hope the winter break doesn't last too long.
Greetings from Germany, Bernd 💙💛🏁🤛🏼
Hi Bernd. I came very close to getting the Enduristan set up. I think it just sits much better on the bike but as I had already invested so much money in Kriega it didn’t make much sense as it is pretty modular and I could continue using pouches I already had.
The Nordkap is an epic trip. We went a couple of years ago (check out the videos, if your bored) it rained a lot and soon became a test of endurance but it did result in a pretty funny video!
As I am a shorty I have the lowered seat. It’s not comfortable at all. I did a fairly long trip and it was a bit annoying. I currently trying out a Cool Cover on it as everyone I know is saying they are brilliant. There is a definite improvement but I need to do some more big miles.
Since I made that video I’ve fitted some Oxford Heated grips to allow me to keep riding longer into the winter but on the whole I’m really loving the bike. I’m still convinced it’s the best adventure bike currently on the market. Simple, reliable and it looks cool. What more do we want!
Thank you for taking time to comment, it is really appreciated. Stay safe, keep riding and Frohes Fest.🎁🎄 👍🏼🇩🇪🇬🇧
So awesome
I had similar accessories fitted to my T7, with the addition of the centre stand it weighed 220 Kg with a full tank.
If you are planning off road riding fit a chain guide, the one just in front of the rear sprocket, it is in the parts catalog and a strange thing not to fit standard.
The T7 was a good bike but I traded mine for a DRZ 400, the T7 is better on the road but the DRZ is 70 Kg lighter, I even prefer riding my DR 650 to the T7 as it is 40 Kg lighter and no where near as top heavy and I can touch the ground so much easier and I am 5’9””.
I did fit heavier springs along with the lower seat and lowered links but once the sag is set it was still too tall for me.
I live in Australia and stiffer springs help a lot with hitting rocks and so forth on faster roads, I bottomed the forks a few times, hence the upgrade.
Safe travels and enjoy the bike. 👍👍
Thanks mate. I have been toying with the idea of fitting a chain guide and your right, it is the sort of thing that should be standard. I’m a pretty unskilled off road rider and I do enjoy the less challenging trails that we have on offer over here in Central Europe. Scandinavia will teach you how to ride gravel but from what I’ve seen it pales into comparison against Australian trails.
As I’m about 70 kg I find the stock suspension adequate for my needs. My brand new, still not fitted, center stand is still boxed in my cellar. Your right about the weight. I’m no spring chicken anymore and the Tenere feels like a toy compared to my GS. But just the other day I was riding and thinking how much better it would be if it was 50 kg lighter. I image I’ll be going for a single cylinder bike next. Mate, thank you so much for your advice and taking the time to comment. It is very much appreciated. Stay safe and keep riding.👍🏼
Bloody pretty dam cool kit you got there, ride safe and enjoy.
Thanks mate, much appreciated. 👍🏼
All looking very adventuresome . I am sure you are loving it. What have you done with the GS I suoppose you are keeping her as a faithful friend.
At the moment I'm keeping the GS... But I'm struggling to justify having 2 bikes, especially without a garage. 😩
I'm loving the look of that. Thats the kind of bike for the TET not my GSA. Mind you, I'd still be very protective over my T700. I'm loving the colour & the set up. I've not ridden one. I'm going to have a go. Loved this video Steve.
Cheers Leigh. The best way I can describe it is this: If a GS is a Lancaster Bomber then the T7 is a Spitfire. Both brilliant, both different. You'll see what I mean when you ride one.
Looks fantastic Steve , sty safe and looking forward to seeing your travels ps Say hi to Jase for me pls 👍👍
Hey Matt, good to hear from you. I’ll pass on your regards to Jase. Stay safe mate.👍🏼
Same bike same color! Have a look at the MIVV Dakar exhaust. It tucks up under the rear fairings, inside the existing exhaust bracket. You will however need to do a tail tidy to avoid a melted left signal light.
I dropped the bike on the first day of the MABDR and even though I had the full Mosko Reckless 80 saddlebag mounted the exhaust still bent in enough to rub on the swingarm. I didn't notice until the next day, so now I have a bit of metal missing from the swingarm.
I’ve read a lot about this and I suppose the next evolution of my bike will be the high exhaust. For what you get I think the price of the MIVV is very competitive, way better than some of the OEM kit. I’m really, really loving this bike now. Thanks for the info by the way.👍🏼🫡 keep riding.
You are going to find the stock rear spring to have inadequate spring preload once you are loaded up, particularly once you get into bumpy off road terrain. You may want to check out Rally Raid UK and their Tenere 700 range of replacement springs. I expect you'll be glad you did.
Ok, thanks for the heads up. I haven’t taken the bike properly off-road yet let alone fully loaded. I’m sort of hoping I won’t need to upgrade the suspension as I only weigh in at around 70 kg. But I know deep down I will have to address this sooner rather than later. Add on riding kit and at least 15kg of camping crap and I can kiss good bye to that 70 kg figure. Once again thanks for the advice and taking the time to comment. Stay safe and keep riding. 👍🏼
That stock radiator guard is just fine. And the Headlight protector is not really neccesary. Those crash bars bend really easily, and will damage your plastics. Just so you know😉
I agree on the radiator guards, stock are fine. A headlight guard (in my opinion) is a sensible option due to the cost of a new headlight, but your right, chances are you don't need it. The crash bars are completely pointless as the bike hits the bars first, but I fitted the just so I can carry additional bags on the front. I do alot if long distance camping so they are really handy for distributing the weight over the front. Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's always interesting to hear other riders perspective. Stay safe & Merry Christmas 🤶
Hi, have been watching your channel with interest. I went with OEM crash bars the toolbox for your skid plate can brake the welds in the plate ref: Far&Further video. Not sure if it's a common problem or just because he rides it very hard. I also use Kriega OS18's but mounted to AS side plates which work very well. Keep your updates coming and I'll carry on watching and commenting. Do you have an Instagram account?👍🏻
Hi Colin, useful information there, thanks for sharing. I am on intragram but rarely update it, regardless here it is : greenstringmotorcyles
Thanks for taking the time to comment. It's much appreciated.
Beautiful bike!! Useful accesoires. I guess you're going to enjoy the TET, and we'll be enjoying the vids. Looking forward to it.
Thanks Rolf much appreciated. Big Eastern Europe tour starts next month... Bring it on!! 😂
@@GreenString nice... just the 2 of you?
Where are you going, for how long and how many KM's to be expected?? :) Not curious at all ;)
@@RolfAalders I’m going solo on this tour but with very little planning so I can be as spontaneous as I need to be. The route I hope to end up taking will be: Poland - Slovakia - Hungary - Romania (maybe Moldova)- Serbia - Croatia - Slovenia - Austria -home…I hope to be going on and off the Trans Euro Trail, but nothing to difficult as I am on my own.
@@GreenString oh wow. That is quite an undertaking. I hope we can be enjoying a nice documentary of it :)
Enjoy and have a safe trip
@@RolfAalders Thanks Rolf. 👍🏼
The bike, and the accessories are looking the nuts. I agree with you regarding the Kreiga bags. I personally like Kreiga stuff. Your comment about the tank bag pressing onto the petrol cap and leaking if the bike goes over due to bag pressing on cap (I think that’s what you meant) could you not fit a tank bag ring, either Givi or SW-motech or similar, to space the tank bag from the cap. Just a thought. Looking forward to the antics😁.
Hi. Well I only heard about the tank-bag-pressing-down-thingy on a forum. I’m not sure if it’s true but I do know some do leak when they go over. I cannot remember if they had a tank bag on. So yes, your right a tank ring would solve the problem except I’ve got a weird fear of tank bags that don’t sit flush with the tank. Jason has a Givi one on his Africa Twin and that small gap between the tank and bag….ahhhhh it’s like it’s floating (I think I have a problem). Anyway your absolutely right I can easily slide my tank bag back a bit or if it really bothers me Camel ADV apparently have a fix in the form of an additional seal that sits inside the lid. It only costs a couple of quid, so It’s not a big deal…first world problems eh? Now I’m just waiting for the first service which isn’t until the end of the month because they were so busy, which is annoying as I smashed the first 1000 kms out in days, as you do with a new bike. Anyway moan over. Have a brilliant weekend my friend. 👍🏼
@@GreenString Camel ADV sells a gasket for that tank cap leaking issue, I believe it's more of an incorrect gasket from the factory than anything to do with tank bag pressure....fitted one to mine and happy with it! I also installed Camel's tail tidy, one finger clutch, and 'the fix' for that soft rear brake issue....all fantastic upgrades!!
@@allenhuling598 Hi Allen. I’ve heard about those upgrades you mention on the forums and they all seem to make sense to me (and other Tenere riders). Unfortunately my wife will probably kill me if I throw more money at the bike this year 🤣. I’m going to take the bike on a big Eastern European tour next month and that should identify my next “must have” upgrades although I’m sure the ones you mention will end up being at the top of my list. Strangely I find the rear brake really good BUT that maybe because the rear brake on my GS was practically useless I could never lock the rear wheel, so by comparison the Tenere is brilliant…or have they done something with the 2023 model? I doubt it. Mate, thanks for taking the time to comment and pass on your experience. It’s much appreciated. Stay safe and keep riding 👍🏼🫡
No problem....hope it helps! Ride safe!
hey there i really enjoyed your tenere video series. I saw your comment about having a sore butt after 600km on the road. If you managed to fix that somehow, would you be happy riding a bike like this on the autobahn for hundreds of kilometers fairly regularly, say if you spent months travelling around europe? I love everything about this bike but I am slightly concerned that the engine and possibly the gearing is a little unsuitable for comfortable long duration touring between 120-140km/h. That seems to be it's only weakness or am I mistaken?
Hi, in comparison to my old GS it is no where near that level of mile munching comfort, and never will be. In addition regarding comfortable cruising speed (130 - 140 Kmph) it just isn’t in the same league. The Tenere (in my opinion) just feels way happier on the b roads. That said I’ve done some serious miles on the Autobahn with her and I found I just needed to recalibrate my brain. Now I sit happily at around 100 -110 kmph and the bike is happy and feels less stressed. Since that video I have fitted a Cool Cover www.coolcovers.co.uk/product/yamaha-tenere-700/
It does increase comfort but I haven’t really tested it over a multi day trip in the saddle yet so the verdict is still out on that one. If that fails I’m going to try riding with cycling shorts under my biking trousers. If that fails then I’ll have to consider a custom seat and that’s expensive.
Anyway I hope this helps and thanks for the comment. It’s always appreciated. Stay safe and keep riding 👍🏼
Looking good. I do think a tail tidy is a must, especially if you're going to venture a little further off the beaten track. Happy riding.
Cheers. I was thinking about a tail tidy as admittedly they look way better. I'm just a bit concerned that the chance of more mud and crap will fling over me if I fit one. Sort of for over function... Although I'm probably wrong! 😂
Are you worried about the OEM crash bars breaking the engine cases in a crash where the mounting point on the engine is? I have read that can be a problem with the OEM bars and some say it's because someone forgot to install a spacer and that caused it.
Hi, I’ve not heard of that and having just had a quick look I cannot see any point where the crash bars are mounted onto the engine. They appear to be mounted to the frame. Weird. Perhaps they have updated the crash bars? I have seen quite a few reports where the OEM crash bars did a pretty good job. I think I need to do some investigation into this. Thanks for the heads up. Much appreciated 👍🏼
@@GreenString Hmmm that is strange as I just read about it yesterday. The general feeling was do not use the OEM crash bars due to a couple places were mounted to the engine.
@@GreenString Just google tenere 700 oem crash bars cracked engine and it will come up.
2 months later, would you say the low seat really made a diference on reaching the ground? What about long trips, does it get uncomfortable?
Great questions and I’ve just completed a big 4,500Km journey so I’m in a good position to answer your questions. Yes, undoubtedly the lowered seat assists with getting better ground contact, but I definitely had to combine it with the 2cm lowering links. I also dropped the front forks by about 1 cm to balance the bike up a bit. Finally I backed off the preload. Those in combination make me feel much more comfortable on the bike, on and off road. Keep in mind I am pretty comfortable with tall bikes (I’ve never owned a bike I could fully flat foot on).
Now comfort. Mmmm. I did close to 600Km on day one and my backside was not comfortable. I later realised that if I shifted slightly forward on the seat my backside slid into the slight dip of the seat and I was way more comfortable. So, yes you can do big distance on it but, in my opinion, it could be better. I’m not willing to buy an expensive aftermarket seat that may make no difference so my next purchase will be a Cool Cover. My mate has one and swears by them (Google cool covers). If that fails and for long distance only I’m going to try cycling shorts. I hope this gives you some context. If you have any further questions please fire away. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Stay safe, keep riding 👍🏼
@@GreenString thanks for the quick answer! I just got a tenere exactly like yours and I'm having loads of fun with it but I'm a novice rider and I'm not a tall, I'm around 175cm and I have half of my feet on the ground. I do have the lowering links installed but I still feel I could feel a bit safer with the lower seat, was just wondering if it really helps. Rainy days are on their way and having half foot contact is not great with wet cobblestone hehe.
hi there!what about the firm seat?isnt it a problem?
In short, yes it's a problem. I have done 700km + in one day, so it can be done. I find after about an hour I need to constantly shift my backside around the seat to continue. I'm considering an aftermarket seat.