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Retro Product Review: Bachmann Spectrum 4-8-2 Heavy Mountain Steam Locomotive. Illinois Central.
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2021
- This is a retro product review of a Bachmann Spectrum 4-8-2 Heavy Mountain Steam Locomotive in Illinois Central Railroad markings. This was originally released in 2003 and I was able to purchase it through an online auction site. It is in mint condition. I added a Loksound 5 DCC decoder and speaker. I loaded ESU sound file E0514 to the decoder. This is a brief review and demonstration run.
I just love how careful , clean and well organized you are with your videos! You have talent and inspire me with your artwork. Back when i was a young boy you know 15 years ago all i got was the battery operated ones. Now im 26 and let me tell you now im really into the hobby. Electric and dcc for me now
I have this exact locomotive in my IC fleet. This one appears to be from the 2003 production like mine is. I too noticed the discrepancy regarding which locomotive 2981 really was so I looked it up in Richard P. Bessette's Rods Down and Dropped Fires: Illinois Central and the Steam Age in Perspective. On pages 338-339, several 2-10-2 locomotives are shown which bear similarity to Bachmann's IC 2981. As you mentioned in the video, IC did rebuild some of their 2-10-2's into 4-8-2's so it could be that someone at Bachmann mixed up the initial form of the locos (as opposed to the common "Paducah shops" re-fab look that so many IC steam engines had) with their eventual wheel arrangement. That's just a guess though.
In regards to the whistle, the IC used a 3-chime whistle that was so common to their fleet, its design is now known as the IC 3-chime. I've lightly researched its origins and usage but all I know so far is that they used it frequently (but not exclusively). The links below should give you a rather accurate idea of how IC steam sounded.
IAIS 6988
czcams.com/video/WpF-jo2Or74/video.html
SOU 630
czcams.com/video/S26jdaQnRjs/video.html
SOU 401
czcams.com/video/h84Q-n8nJVs/video.html
SLSF 1522 (at speed)
czcams.com/video/OjQNTkCEevI/video.html
czcams.com/video/W5LbVMYSExE/video.html
IC 2500 (slightly anemic due to the small air compressor)
czcams.com/video/-8Uhs8eBt-I/video.html
Rizzoli Locomotive Works (fabricated copy)
czcams.com/video/ImoR8526Qow/video.html
Thanks, Joel! I really appreciate your contribution. I am going to see if I can get an IC-specific whistle identified and added to this project!
Very good review. It is a nice steam locomotive. Nice sound as well.
ICRR MOUNTAIN TYPE
2400 Built by alco if I remember correctly.
2500 rebuilt in paducah kentucky from 2-10-2's.
2600 built new in paducah kentucky shop's of the Illinois Central Railroad.
All major overhaul and upgrade of the mountain class was done in the Paducah Kentucky shop's.
They also rebuilt there second generation power.
There was an Illinois Central #2981: a Lima built 2-10-2.
Great video:)
Hi Tony.....I love the sound decoder you have installed.. Ive been after one of these locos for years & have just found one on U.K. Ebay but I need a 6 axle Bachman vandy tender to make it a Southern Pacific loco, if you know of one for sale it would be great if you let me know...I would like some info on the loco track wiring as it is a split chassis . Im 84 & still learning about the model rail electrics....Hope you can help....U.K. Modeller Brian
Thanks, Brian. I do not know of anyone with a 6 axle tender for sale, eBay is going to be your best bet. I am not fully understanding your track wiring question related to the split chassis. When the tender is connected to the locomotive, it is essentially 1 unit. Some of the wheels are electrical pickup (likely in the tender) and it sends the power to the motor and drive wheels. My layout is wired as a standard DCC layout. If you search "DCC wiring" on CZcams you will be inundated with how-to videos. There is not anything fancy for these locomotives. Good luck!
@@ck7813Thank you for your reply , i did find the info I required regarding the split chassis. I understand now regarding isolating the motor conection from the chassis.....
What kind of speaker did you use in the tender?
I legitimately do not remember, I am guessing that I purchased a Loksound decoder that came with a cube speaker. That would make the most sense. It is not a Scale Sound System speaker, I do know that.
I am a S Scale Operator, I have the American Models ICRR Green Diamond E8 running TMCC and also have a 2500 Replica made out of a 1950s Hudson 4-8-4. I have seen the Original 2500 in Centralia and wanted one on my S Gauge Flyer Layout. I then installed MTH DCS PS2 control and sound. I love the engine and it looks pretty darn nice with the molded in detail of the day. But this video offers me so much more to consider in making my S Gauge tribute much closer to the real thing. I was also shocked to see the Chocolate/Orange baggage car and wondered. You said the ICRR were largely for Passenger runs. Did the Passenger cars in that time frame have a distinctive paint scheme??? What was it? Would Heavy weights work or is that all wrong? I wanted to thank you for posting. Pretty excited to get more details to my ICRR Mountain. Dennis in Virginia czcams.com/video/ucaCy4nZDfk/video.html
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Thanks, Dennis. The chocolate and orange paint on the IC baggage car in my video was first introduced in the early 1940s on Illinois Central's Panama Limited commuter train. This also coincided with the dieselization of their passenger service with the purchase of EMD E-series locomotives. The IC was still rebuilding new 4-8-2 Heavy Mountains, most notably the 2400 series went into service in 1944. While it is noted historically that the Heavy Mountains were used for passenger service, they did have freight assignments as well. I think it is fair to say that if you are modeling the 1940s-era of the IC, it is absolutely possible that one of these 4-8-2s could be pressed into service to lead a chocolate and orange passenger train.
@@ck7813 great input. Love my ICRR Mountain so neat to see such a detailed version. Thanks again.
Illinois Central used steamboat whistle's
Is this HO Scale here? Which scale is this?
HO
@@ck7813 nice
What is a good price for these?
Thanks, Eddie. From what I can tell, MSRP back in 2003 was around $200 for a non-DCC locomotive. I got this one for around $150 so my guess is anywhere in between.
Great video have the 3310
New haven no paperwork looking for information I am in uk