Another point to make is what happens if the overflow clogs or breaks siphon. Having a smaller 3rd chamber in the sump (which you do) helps prevent the DT from overflowing when the return pump turns back on. Great vid!!
Thanks kyle. I appreciate the coments. Yes a smaller return section does make some peace of mind. Feel free to subscribe for more cideos. Thanks again. ..
Thank you I’ve never done a sump before and worry about what prevents the whole tank from syphoning down and this answered my questions. I’ll be doing a sump in the future
Thanks for quick response I been battling nitrates 40 ppm for awhile and was thinking of trying the red sea dosing so thanks.I'm going start this weekend. I subscribed
paul matyskiel That sounds like a good idea. just follow the dosing instructions on the bottle. Also make sure you keep up with your water change to keep the water clean. Good luck and let me know how you make out. it will probably take a few weeks to come down, but the stuff works great.
I like the idea of running the return to the bottom of the tank to ensure good circulation and these siphon breaks would be a good way of ensuring that it does not drain the tank.
Great 👍🏻 idea with the syphon breaks however, i noticed that the return line with the spout is only a few inches below the surface of the water. Once the water level has dropped below the outlet end of the return line, it should break the syphon anyways... Would it not? I could see this working if the end of the return lone was deeper below the surface of the water. The other thing also, if your water level drops (due to evaporation) the syphon break will cause the pump from working properly but that is if you don't have a top-up system in place, i guess!😏
Love this video.Simple and all explaining.👍Can i ask how noisy is all this overflow box with the sump? My tank is in sleeping room. Thank you for feedback
Thanks for the video, quick question.. I'm looking at building a sump of my own.. When you do lose syphon on your overflow box, what happens then? What preventative options do I have to make sure that my sump doesn't pump all the water into the main display and empty the contents of the sump? Any advice would be appreciated.
+Candace A Hi Candace, thanks for stopping by. What I did was make sure that my return section of my sump was sized so that in the event I lost siphon on my overflow, then the chamber would go dry before the tank over flows. I figure it was better to replace a pump then have a flood. I also make sure that my ATO reservoir is not big enough to flood the tank as well, because if the return section drops the ATO will kick in. I must say though, almost 2 years with my Eshopps and I haven't lost siphon. (knock on wood). I hope this helps. Good luck and feel free to subscribe!
Also you can drill a small hole in the siphon tube and attach a powerhead or air pump that sucks air. That way it is always removing air and recreating a siphon if it ever stops. See the new acrylic slim overflows for an example.
Thank you !! i will try this im kind of scared of overflow boxes, but i cant really drill my tank now that is full :( im a small girl something could go wrong
Love the tank reef rookie!!! I am adding a simp to my system this week I've been using my hang on filtration which works great and all but I want a dump cause I ordered an apex system and want a place for my equipment lol I ordered the eshopps pf. 300 overflow how do u like yours it works good?
Shane Phillips Hi Shane, I have the PF800 over flow system on my 55 gallon tank with 30 gallon sump. It works great once you get it dialed in with your return pump. I have had it for over a year with no issues at all. Good luck...
What about the hob overflow? Will it ever lose siphon? Since my tank is not drilled and so the only way is the hob overflow. Thinking of getting the pf 800 like yours but scare it might lose siphon one of these days when there is a power outage
john tran Hi john ive used the “hob” pf 800 on my 90 gallon freshwater for a little over a yr now and I’ve killed the electricity my self doing improvements several times and I’ve never had it lose siphon. Seems to be a great little overflow. My biggest regret is not getting the 1200 instead. Hope this helps !!
What ghp your pump is pumping the water back to your pf 800? My tank is like nearly 6 feet tall including with the stand. I dont know which pump i should buy if i get the same exact hob overflow your using since i have to consider the height it pumps up to the tank.
john tran I honestly don’t remember the brand but I believe it can pump up to 1600gph. I have a ball valve on it to control the return flow. Also a lot of people like flex hose, I use 1in PVC I like that i can build it exactly how I want without things flopping around. Add a couple unions makes it super simple to take apart if need be.
Just make sure you get the right size overflow, meaning you want it to circulate all the water in your aquarium a minimum of 6 times per hr. 7-10 times even better! Strictly IMO
so this is how you prevent your filter tank from flooding everything but whats with the tank? how can u prevent the tank from overflowing then somehow your overflow stops working and the return pump is still pumping water up into the main tank?
Hi thanks for stopping by. To prevent that you need to figure out what size to make your chamber that hold a your return pump. my chamber will run dry before over flowing. I figured it's better to replace a burned pump then flooding the living room. I hope this helps and feel free to subscribe!!
Good morning. I a happy to say no I haven't but I drilled 2 holes in the line just in case. I hope the video helped. thanks for stopping by and feel free to subscribe.
Our tanks sump over flowed way above "max water" line and fried our power boards. Got it all fixed in a couple hours. Where the water goes back into the tank had stopped working... any ideas of what could have happened?? We have a marine 4ft tank
Quick question I have a 75 gallon reef with nitrates at 40 ppm if I did my calculation right I should be dosing 7 ML minus live rock and sand should I be splitting it up like half in the morning and other half at night or 7 in morning and another 7 at night might be stupid question but just dont want to mess things up thanks.
paul matyskiel Hi, that's a good question. I dosed the whole amount at once, but you may want to check with red sea. If you go to Reefcentral.com, Res Sea has a section in the forums where you can ask that. They are great at getting back with the answer. I just would hate to give you the wrong answer. Also, make sure your skimmer is running as thats what exports the product consumed by the bacteria.
+Fred Beer Hi Fred...Thanks for looking at the video. Yes, I took a small drill bit and drilled a hole on each side. I did 2 holes just in case one gets clogged or covered by a snail or something.
HNiCDuke HI thanks for the input. But as with everything in this hobby it can fail over time. the check valve can be especially problematic if salt and or crud build up causes it to stay open, or worse closed. Thanks for stopping by.
thank you for your interest on my comment and I will gladly do a video or is okay if I could provide a schematic diagram instead because I am fully booked with my day and night jobs until next month , .man only have 5 hours of free time each day that I could spend for feeding my little buddies and sleep . , but still try to do the video . , by the way I'm using fresh water community tapped for my Aquarium.
paul matyskiel Hi Paul, yes I am still dosing my tank with NoPox. My nitrates and phosphates are super low so I am dosing 1 ml per day and it's working very well. thanks for the question, and feel free to subscribe.
Shane Phillips I actually just got rid of my Rio pump as I found it very noisy. I replaced it with an Eheim Compact + 2000. I'm super happy with this pump, its so quiet I cant hear a thing. My Rio is now used to mix salt water...
how come its sooo dirty?? I aint tryin to be rude but dude it only takes 1/2 hour to take that shit apart and clean it ...My Lord I would be embarrassed at that aquarium!! Im sorry but its pretty bad. Thanks for the video..much appreciated..
Mini Nina I’m a beautiful real very loving person I’m sorry if truth hurts..that’s what’s wrong with u young punks...can’t handle real comments..so u bash people calling names..so unnecessary
Randy Lahey I have a wonderful life..sounds like u need to get a life..making comments to me..I’m just telling the truth..the filter is dirty..Jesus u r crazy!,
ive been so scared to do a sump for reasons of something failing and this just made me very confident and now im doing it! , thank you for this!!
Another point to make is what happens if the overflow clogs or breaks siphon. Having a smaller 3rd chamber in the sump (which you do) helps prevent the DT from overflowing when the return pump turns back on. Great vid!!
Thanks kyle. I appreciate the coments. Yes a smaller return section does make some peace of mind. Feel free to subscribe for more cideos. Thanks again. ..
If you don't clean your tank before the video, you probably won't clean it after.
Thank you I’ve never done a sump before and worry about what prevents the whole tank from syphoning down and this answered my questions. I’ll be doing a sump in the future
Thanks for quick response I been battling nitrates 40 ppm for awhile and was thinking of trying the red sea dosing so thanks.I'm going start this weekend. I subscribed
paul matyskiel That sounds like a good idea. just follow the dosing instructions on the bottle. Also make sure you keep up with your water change to keep the water clean. Good luck and let me know how you make out. it will probably take a few weeks to come down, but the stuff works great.
Dude you knocked out all my worries thanks for the video
I like the idea of running the return to the bottom of the tank to ensure good circulation and these siphon breaks would be a good way of ensuring that it does not drain the tank.
Kenney Thanks for stopping by! Feel free to subscribe.
Great 👍🏻 idea with the syphon breaks however, i noticed that the return line with the spout is only a few inches below the surface of the water. Once the water level has dropped below the outlet end of the return line, it should break the syphon anyways... Would it not?
I could see this working if the end of the return lone was deeper below the surface of the water.
The other thing also, if your water level drops (due to evaporation) the syphon break will cause the pump from working properly but that is if you don't have a top-up system in place, i guess!😏
Love this video.Simple and all explaining.👍Can i ask how noisy is all this overflow box with the sump? My tank is in sleeping room. Thank you for feedback
Thank you, very informative video. I have new hope for my 60 gallon!
RustyBricks My Pleasure! Good luck and please feel free to subscribe!
Simple idea and it works like a charm!
Waxy Parsnips thanks for stopping by feel free to subscribe!!
Great video
Thanks for the video, quick question.. I'm looking at building a sump of my own..
When you do lose syphon on your overflow box, what happens then?
What preventative options do I have to make sure that my sump doesn't pump all the water into the main display and empty the contents of the sump? Any advice would be appreciated.
+Candace A Hi Candace, thanks for stopping by. What I did was make sure that my return section of my sump was sized so that in the event I lost siphon on my overflow, then the chamber would go dry before the tank over flows. I figure it was better to replace a pump then have a flood. I also make sure that my ATO reservoir is not big enough to flood the tank as well, because if the return section drops the ATO will kick in. I must say though, almost 2 years with my Eshopps and I haven't lost siphon. (knock on wood). I hope this helps. Good luck and feel free to subscribe!
Keep your return pump at a higher level in you sump so if you loose power or siphon you don’t flood over the main tank.
Also you can drill a small hole in the siphon tube and attach a powerhead or air pump that sucks air. That way it is always removing air and recreating a siphon if it ever stops. See the new acrylic slim overflows for an example.
Thank you !! i will try this im kind of scared of overflow boxes, but i cant really drill my tank now that is full :( im a small girl something could go wrong
wish I had know that years ago when I had an overflow box.....
That's brilliant. Thanks.
Great idea and video, thanks.
great video
Love the tank reef rookie!!! I am adding a simp to my system this week I've been using my hang on filtration which works great and all but I want a dump cause I ordered an apex system and want a place for my equipment lol I ordered the eshopps pf. 300 overflow how do u like yours it works good?
Shane Phillips Hi Shane, I have the PF800 over flow system on my 55 gallon tank with 30 gallon sump. It works great once you get it dialed in with your return pump. I have had it for over a year with no issues at all. Good luck...
I'm slow... so those holes in the pipe breaks the siphon once the water drops to certain level?
I might have to fix mine my over flow and return is the same hight but throw bulk heads
Let's do a "okay" count
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
What size hole you drilled
You break the syphon in the water outlet but how do you break the syphon in the water inlet
You also drill hole I gess?
What about the hob overflow? Will it ever lose siphon? Since my tank is not drilled and so the only way is the hob overflow. Thinking of getting the pf 800 like yours but scare it might lose siphon one of these days when there is a power outage
john tran Hi john ive used the “hob” pf 800 on my 90 gallon freshwater for a little over a yr now and I’ve killed the electricity my self doing improvements several times and I’ve never had it lose siphon. Seems to be a great little overflow. My biggest regret is not getting the 1200 instead. Hope this helps !!
Mateo fish handler thats good to hear. I feel much better buying it.
What ghp your pump is pumping the water back to your pf 800? My tank is like nearly 6 feet tall including with the stand. I dont know which pump i should buy if i get the same exact hob overflow your using since i have to consider the height it pumps up to the tank.
john tran I honestly don’t remember the brand but I believe it can pump up to 1600gph. I have a ball valve on it to control the return flow. Also a lot of people like flex hose, I use 1in PVC I like that i can build it exactly how I want without things flopping around. Add a couple unions makes it super simple to take apart if need be.
Just make sure you get the right size overflow, meaning you want it to circulate all the water in your aquarium a minimum of 6 times per hr. 7-10 times even better! Strictly IMO
so this is how you prevent your filter tank from flooding everything but whats with the tank? how can u prevent the tank from overflowing then somehow your overflow stops working and the return pump is still pumping water up into the main tank?
Hi thanks for stopping by. To prevent that you need to figure out what size to make your chamber that hold a your return pump. my chamber will run dry before over flowing. I figured it's better to replace a burned pump then flooding the living room. I hope this helps and feel free to subscribe!!
The Reef Rookie thank you very much, that helps me a lot. my filter tank isn't parted in chambers yet so i completely forget about that option.
have you ever had a snail clog the return tube?
Good morning. I a happy to say no I haven't but I drilled 2 holes in the line just in case. I hope the video helped. thanks for stopping by and feel free to subscribe.
What if it is a uniquarium, how do I prevent the tank from overflowing with the built-in filtration? Please help.
+Hansa hi Hansa thanks for stopping by. thats a good question. is there a way you can drill a siphon break in the return line?
What skimmer are you using
Our tanks sump over flowed way above "max water" line and fried our power boards. Got it all fixed in a couple hours. Where the water goes back into the tank had stopped working... any ideas of what could have happened??
We have a marine 4ft tank
Can u please tell me, where to make the hole? Over the water level? Or below the water level?
good morning. I put the hole right at the water line so i can barely see the water moving. I hooe that helps.
Quick question I have a 75 gallon reef with nitrates at 40 ppm if I did my calculation right I should be dosing 7 ML minus live rock and sand should I be splitting it up like half in the morning and other half at night or 7 in morning and another 7 at night might be stupid question but just dont want to mess things up thanks.
paul matyskiel Hi, that's a good question. I dosed the whole amount at once, but you may want to check with red sea. If you go to Reefcentral.com, Res Sea has a section in the forums where you can ask that. They are great at getting back with the answer. I just would hate to give you the wrong answer. Also, make sure your skimmer is running as thats what exports the product consumed by the bacteria.
Are you still vacuuming your sand bed with your water changes with the dosing?
paul matyskiel Yes I am. I do a different section each time I change my water every 2 weeks. (I don't have a DSB)
Just wandering,I do also but didn't know if I should stop while dosing thanks.
Man, that thing farted! sounded like Taco Bell night!
Omg I laugh so hard to this 😂😂
hi where is level line to drill holds
So did you just drill holes in the side of the return nozzle?
+Fred Beer Hi Fred...Thanks for looking at the video. Yes, I took a small drill bit and drilled a hole on each side. I did 2 holes just in case one gets clogged or covered by a snail or something.
So simple. I can't believe my friend still has overflow issues!
its called getting a check valve.
HNiCDuke HI thanks for the input. But as with everything in this hobby it can fail over time. the check valve can be especially problematic if salt and or crud build up causes it to stay open, or worse closed. Thanks for stopping by.
thank you for your interest on my comment and I will gladly do a video or is okay if I could provide a schematic diagram instead because I am fully booked with my day and night jobs until next month , .man only have 5 hours of free time each day that I could spend for feeding my little buddies and sleep . , but still try to do the video . , by the way I'm using fresh water community tapped for my Aquarium.
Hey just wandering are still dosing the red sea if so how's it working?
paul matyskiel Hi Paul, yes I am still dosing my tank with NoPox. My nitrates and phosphates are super low so I am dosing 1 ml per day and it's working very well. thanks for the question, and feel free to subscribe.
I done this 30 years ago before drilling tanks and over flow boxes 😂😂
Also what size rio return pump are u using?
Shane Phillips I actually just got rid of my Rio pump as I found it very noisy. I replaced it with an Eheim Compact + 2000. I'm super happy with this pump, its so quiet I cant hear a thing. My Rio is now used to mix salt water...
Tank is clear though
You seem very consumed with what other people think.....
Chooper Thank you for the kindness. I'm not a professional and I welcome all opinions. Please feel free to subscribe.
good video nice tank. just put Chek valves and done deal.
Waiting for more videos. You have a new sub.. check out my chanel. hahaha
What? No anemone for the clownfish? That is likely to stress them.
how come its sooo dirty?? I aint tryin to be rude but dude it only takes 1/2 hour to take that shit apart and clean it ...My Lord I would be embarrassed at that aquarium!! Im sorry but its pretty bad. Thanks for the video..much appreciated..
RoxyQueen Thanks for the input. Feel free to subscribe.
I will subscribe if you clean that filter and that pipe!! LOL!!
what a hateful piece of shit.
Mini Nina I’m a beautiful real very loving person I’m sorry if truth hurts..that’s what’s wrong with u young punks...can’t handle real comments..so u bash people calling names..so unnecessary
Randy Lahey I have a wonderful life..sounds like u need to get a life..making comments to me..I’m just telling the truth..the filter is dirty..Jesus u r crazy!,