Bands Who Should Probably Just Retire
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- Sometimes, it’s just time to hang it up. I’m arguing in favor of retirement for these 7 bands, either from recording new music, touring, or BOTH.
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0:00 These Bands Should Probably Retire
1:17 Coldplay
2:30 Sponsored by Status Audio
3:31 AC/DC
4:54 Incubus
6:33 U2
7:44 System of a Down
9:37 Maroon 5
11:22 Weezer
12:54 Final Thoughts - Hudba
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I feel another band that could be on this list is 30 Seconds to Mars, which has slowly become The Jared Leto Experience. First two albums were great, This Is War is pretty decent though the overuse of the "oh's" and "woah's" from either Jared or this crowd of people he bought into the studio drags it down a bit, fourth was mediocre, but their fifth is disastrous. America also sounds like a desperate attempt to be mainstream but fails, and they lost multiple fans like me after that album and Tomo leaving the band. They were one of my all time favorite bands a decade ago but quickly fell out of love with them after their bad releases. Jared's ego is just as big as Adam Levine's, and why does he need to treat his fanbase like a cult? And does he really think that he is Jesus? 30STM should just retire if they are not gonna live up to their full potential and I think Jared should just focus on his acting.
I agree with what you said about U2. I love them and I don’t think they should completely retire but unless they can put out something interesting they should stop making music. They have many more years left ahead of them
Another band that could be added to this list is One Republic. Just as bad as Maroon 5 at this point. 😐
Hey neighbour, I'd put on the list foo fighters, the hives, rolling stones and the who
I only really ave thoughts on Coldplay, Maroon 5, and Weezer. I think Coldplay should have moved to occasional singles and touring after A Head Full Of Dreams, Maroon 5 should have gone out after V, all 5 of those albums were great, but after that it went downill fast (after that, I did like 2 or 3 red pill blues songs, and Jordi had a handful of keepers, I still listen to lost & lovesick because though not as substantial, they remind me of Overexposed and V, and Memories, Beautiful Mistakes, and Nobody's Love, were all good, and I kinda like cant leave you alone but posthumous features not intended by the artist make me feel a lil icky). As for Weezer? The issue is they have almost re-booted their career 15 fucking albums in, with ok human, van weezer, and sznz, so I think were going further
as someone who’s favorite band is Linkin Park, i’d argue they should also retire completely. while i hope they continue releasing 20 year anniversary box sets for every album like they did with Hybrid Theory, it just wouldn’t feel the same without Chester’s presence. they could always rework unreleased tracks with Chester’s vocals into new material, but i’d prefer them to just keep releasing demos and unreleased tracks from album eras
The longer the hiatus after his passing goes the more I doubt they will come back with a new vocalist.
@@jasonashley9853 Honestly after Chester's passing, I strongly thought LP should have continued on with Mike as lead vocalist on with the studio albums. Then when touring have a mix of guest vocalists & crowd singing Chester's lines.
@@Purple_Thoughts that would be a great idea!
@@jasonashley9853 i’ve never been able to see them actively searching for a replacement, mainly because Chester’s irreplaceable and one of a kind. if it does somehow happen, it would have to come naturally and not forced. at this stage i’d prefer them to just release shelved material and demos, or just reworkings of shelved songs
@@Stefan_Gerards As hard as that is Stefan, Linkin Park did created before Chester joined.
As irreplaceable as he is, Mike Sharing vocals in songs such as Numb show there he could possibly step up to perhaps create one more album with the band and they seperate
I would add KISS to the list. They haven't released new songs in ages. And just like what was mentioned about Angus running around in a school boy outfit when he's in his late 60s, the same can be applied to 70 something year old Paul & Gene and their replacements in facepaint and leather. The sad thing is that they have had several " last tours" or " end of the road" tours yet they still roll on.
KISS should have called it quits in 2018 when they resorted to having Paul Stanley lip sync to get through each show. They need to wrap up this 'final tour' real soon. There are some EMBARRASSING clips out there of Paul's voice horrifically cracking even when talking!
I agree that kiss should retire they've been around long enough have a lot of Records and they've told around the world many times over I think that kiss has nothing left to prove they done it all pretty much and besides they're getting up in age I don't think they can do a long tour at their age in the 70s do maybe for a one-off show somewhere right now pretty much I think they're calling it a day they deserve it pretty much
Plus what was the last album they released that had any good newer songs? Psycho Circus which is what 20-25 years ago? They keep going for the almighty dollar and to feed Gene's and Paul's egos.
@@matthewdrake4385 I thought Monster was a pretty good album and a good way to end KISS' recording output. Heavy as fuck and there were actually some good songs on that album. Better to me than Sonic Boom by a long shot.
I think Weezer could take longer in the studio instead of trying to release yearly, but I'll argue that a majority of the albums released in the last 10 or so years have been really good
U2 should just be a touring band from now on. I’d love to see them live.
Jon, thank you SOOOOOOO much for putting Adam Levine on the thumbnail for thsi video. The Adam Levine Experience really needs to retire, and I am sure so many people including me has had enough of him and constantly trying to stay relevant, especially after the cheating scandal! 😆
Maroon 5 shouldn’t retire; it should just be Adam Levine going solo at this point.
@@kevinmalloy514 I agree.
They are the 27th most listened to band on spotify somehow, I don't think that will happen lol
@@elfoldoboy I agree, and they only released seven studio albums, which is not a lot.
@@elfoldoboy I agree, and they only released seven studio albums, which is not a lot.
U2 are my absolute favorite band, but honestly I don't think I'd mind if they became a touring band. At this point, my U2 playlist is absolutely enormous, so I think I could live with SOE being their last album.
(Also, it's been six years since I saw them live and I'm getting a tad impatient for them to come back to my city)
U2 should have called it a day after Achtung Baby.
They’re basically NBA Youngboy at this point
They pretty much already are... they keep taking longer and longer between releases of their studio albums. They are just re-releasing their older albums and they have another greatest hits album coming out that are re-recorded/re-arranged versions of those songs
I actually really dug Songs Of Experience. It has some really solid songs on it. The problem with U2 is they're still trying to be the biggest band in the world. If they're going to write new songs, they need to just let things come naturally. Strip back a bit. Stop trying to write the biggest song in the world all the time. They're in their sixties for goodness sake.
@@MusicMasterTasmania The last time they tried to be experimental was in the mid 90's to the end of the century and didn't work for them, they had to retreat to safe territory... they are never going back to trying something too different.
Congrats on 10 years jon
Thank you neighbor
System of a Down is one of my favorite bands since 2007 so i feel your pain of never getting the excitement of a new album release by them. SOAD nowadays is the very definition a nostalgia act. Serj is one of my favorite vocalists ever, i absolutely love the solo work he's doing but he's indeed stalling SOAD creatively. Same goes for Weezer, i band i like for a long time now but i don't know them very well, but them constantly popping up on my Spotify's "release radar" every Friday made me think "Damn, those guys are real workaholics" on more then one occasion.
Linkin Park has been on hiatus ever since Chester died, but they haven't officially broken up. As much as I hate to say it, they need to announce a break up, because there's no LP without Chester.
Bon Jovi.
They’re my favorite band of all time. But in 2013, Jon lost Richie Sambora and in 2015, his vocal abilities started to rapidly decline. It’s been honestly really sad to watch. And the fact that he or his publicist hasn’t addressed this at all is unethical to the fans
I feel like, since his voice has been all but shot since 2000, fans know they're showing up for the "experience" of a concert, and not good vocals or even good songs. I saw them in 2001, which was my 3rd time seeing them, and I swore it would be the last. Crush was also the last of their albums I bothered to pick up. They've needed to pack it in for over a decade, but since he's still filling arenas, and people are willing to plunk down $250+ for tickets, I doubt he will.
@@Mystress1980 I saw them in 2011 for The Circle tour and had a great time.
I think what it comes down to is he is too proud to put the mic down. Even at the expense of his own health
@@Mystress1980 I attribute the fact that Jon Bon started smoking in his mid-to-late thirties as to why his voice declined in recent years.
Then there was the death of bassist Alec John Such last year.
@@Tamingmyimpala361 Just like how Adam Levine is too proud to put the mic down.
The candle analogy that you used is absolutely perfect.
I also think that the Motley Crue should retire.
Absolutely! After seeing The Stadium Tour last Fall, I put Vince Neil in spots 1-10 on my “Top 10 Worst Frontmen Of All Time” list.
@@6li8storm40100 precent agree. His performance literally ruined Motley Crüe set in the stadium tour.
Or just bring back Corabi.
I ALMOST wanna say Green Day buuuuuut part of me still feels they have one more great album in them!
I'm sorry but what is wrong with you
Well....Their last album was awful.
@@crist_eastwood yeah but that was just an excuse to leave Warner records. 1972 is sounding really awesome so far.
@@BrokenRealityYT that’s all speculation.
Bro predicted the future
Was expecting to see The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith on this list
Rolling Stones crossed my mind too but maybe that would feel like salt in the wound after Charlie Watts died last year. Plus it's kind of fascinating how long Keith Richards can defy all scientific odds and keep going...!
You could definitely make a part 2 for this.
Part 17...
I think Incubus are still a worthwhile band. The last EP in 2020 had some really good and heartfelt songs imo. Especially 'On without me'.
And even on 8, which to me is their weakest album, there were enough good songs and even one absolute highlight, State of the art, which deals exactly with them getting older. They are such creative dudes that they will be putting out at keast good material for a good while.
Oh, also I wouldn't call Light Grenades a soft album exactly XD
i feel like light grenades is super underrated. the songwriting is strong its just not as edgey as their previous work
STATE OF THE ART IS MY FAVORITE FROM 8
Your segment on the Adam Levine Show is 💯% accurate! I'm so sick and tired of how much of a waste of airtime he is on the radio stations. And I remember watching Todd In The Shadows' worst list of 2022, and he left a slot in his dishonorable mentions just for Maroon 5... only for it to be completely empty lmao. Thank god he didn't release a song last year. Let's keep it that way.
We got the Black Eyed Peas song that quoted Adam’s DM message instead though unfortunately. And that one would have likely made Jon’s Top 5 or so worst of the year had he heard Elevation before making the worst songs video.
@Seth Koppisch yep. That Black Eyed Peas album was my 4th worst of the year. At least that one was fun to laugh at.
@@ASCENSiON_ I was referring to the song “Double D’z” from the album, but yeah definitely among the worst I’ve ever heard as well (only on that worst albums livestream).
@@theseth455 I know lol
Listening back to Songs about Jane makes me wonder what the hell happened.
Weezer needs to put more songs from Maladroit on their set lists. It’s one of my favorite albums from the band. Btw, what did you think about the other SZNZ EP’s? I know that you’ve talked about the Spring installment.
I thought some of the SZNZ songs were good but for the most part it was just more Weezer in slightly different ways
Unpopular opinion, but I actually really enjoy the Records Titus Jones Mashup with the Rihanna-Lana-Nirvana sampling. It’s one of those songs I wouldn’t have expected to like at first either.
I agree that Weezer churns out way too much music, but in no way should they retire yet. I truly believe that if they took awhile to make a complete album with a single focused theme, it could be a classic.
@@djkcd Hero from their Van Weezer album deserved to chart. Real good
I still think there’s hope for Incubus, but damn we’ve been waiting a while for the next album
I hate to admit that SOAD should indeed just call it quits, although I'd be so bold to say that the problem is both Serj and Daron, since the former is pretty much inflexible and the latter clearly wants be the face of the band, one of the reasons why they first went on hiatus was because Daron stepped up during Mesmetize/Hypnotize and took the lead which didn't sit right with Serj and both Shavo and John just got fed up with them during the making of that record.
At a certain point, I'm sure you could replace the other 4 guys in Maroon 5 with scarecrows and nobody would notice. Not even Adam Levine.
The same applies to Imagine Dragons, Coldplay and some others out there.
I would add Motley Crue to the list. Why oh why didn't they stay gone the first time?
It is not like there are good newer bands anyway.
Because there fans wanted them back
Incubus is an amazing live band. I'd pay to see them live still.
As a U2 fan, I couldn't agree more about them becoming a touring band. No matter how good or bad their albums are, they are always amazing live, so they should stick with their strengths (Although it might take a while for them to tour again because of Larry Mullen Jr.'s health issues).
If you are a Classic Rock act that has one or no original members then they need to retire!
Smashing Pumpkins definitely need to be included in one of these lists. I love their early work and even enjoy Zeitgeist and Monuments To An Elegy. Shiny And Oh So Bright was alright but still meh and Cyr was oh so forgettable for the most part. It just feels like Billy is out of ideas and is bringing nothing interesting to the Pumpkins name. I didn't even know they released a new album late last year 😭
I'll love Smashing Pumpkins, just as much as say, the Smiths? But Billy and Moz have become major douches as of late. The wrestling thing and appearances on Alex Jones' podcasts are just nuts to me. James Iha already left the band once. What keeps him around, in spite of Billy, is bewildering.
I saw them about 2 months ago. Billy sounded fantastic. The whole band put on a great show.
Other than that, they've recently put out some new music that was not very inspiring though.
Personally I’m not giving up all hope on Weezer yet because Autumn was a really fun EP. But I 100% see why someone thinks they should call it quits.
As much as Coldplays one of my all time favorites, I’m fine with their 2025 send off, especially if that effort will be a homage to their earlier works. Also as a defender of their more pop albums (Mylo Xyloto is actually my favorite album from them), MOTS is definitely their weakest but I’ll still come back to Higher Power, Coloratura, My Universe, and even Humankind, they’re the highlights of that album imo
Dream Theater should be on this list. They are crumbling with each passing year. They haven't been the same since Portnoy left and it wasn't too bad at first but now the cracks are starting to show.
Let me guess: Panic! At the disco were in the original script for this video
Nope. Swear on my life lol. The video was completely finished (filming) last Monday
@@ARTV- ok I guess that makes sense, first of all because it’s your opinion, but also because Panic’s recent output still wasn’t as bad as that of the other bands on the list
Regardless of whether you like Power Up or not, It definitely seems more like the ending album that AC/DC should go out on as it doesn’t feel abrupt.
If it all ended with Rock Or Bust, it probably would’ve felt unnatural and jarring. I’m happy that Brian Johnson gave off one more shot.
Their music video for The Mists Of Time celebrating all their eras gives off the final goodbye.
Though it does suck the video doesn't show their original singer Dave Evans or Axl Rose on the walls.
Dave was their first singer before Bon Scott and Axl taking over temporarily for Brian while he rested his hearing surely deserves more recognition
@@Thomasmemoryscentral
Knowing the fact that the Brothers (Angus & Malcom) and Dave didn’t get along well at all there was probably a reason there.
Power Up fells natural ending album, Brian really nailed it his voice was great on this record Ang put really solid riffs and lyrics on there, Rejection, Realize and Thru Mists Of Time just feel like good old classic acdc.
I agree with you.
I am no Coldplay fan but I wouldn't say they need to retire. But someone needs to sit them down and have a good talk about the quality of their music. A real good talk.
And perhaps sit down U2 at the same time. Kill 2 birds with one stone, you know
Coldplay teases good tracks but when they drop albums, it disappoints
@@fuziontonygaming I wouldn't go as far as saying that they drop good teasers. I'd say that they think their music is great when in fact it is pretty generic and lacks real emotions. But that's my personal taste
At this point in time Coldplay seem to be more interested in having a hit rather than making a good or interesting album. There was an element of that too in U2 last album.
Green Day, Blink 182, Fallout Boy...
you can pretty much add any 2000s pop/punk Band to this list.
Disagree on all 3
Green day are forever 🤘
Latest Blink and FOB songs say otherwise. For Green Day I need to hear some more new music before I saw yay or nay
I kind of agree on Blink, I think they could still come out with good music but I saw them live a few years ago and besides the vocalist they all looked bored out of their minds lol. They don't have to keep performing if they don't want to imo haha
I’ll wait to see what FOB drops if they ever do drop another album. Their last 3 albums have been a steady decline, a complete inverse of their pre-hiatus work that creatively improved with every album.
How about Green Day?
I agree. They should have stopped writing albums in the mid 90’s.
Big Coldplay fan and it's nice to see they can accept and plan the end of their creative run. I'll be sad when that day comes but I'm sure it will be a beautiful exit
Coldplay got caught up in what a lot of 00s bands did when the 2010s rolled around, they started incorporation more pop and electronic elements into their music, and collaborating with artists outside of rock to try to stay in the game because rock was falling out of mainstream favor. It's all about staying on the charts.
In this a lot of identity got lost, and the moment passed and a now even that era is fizzling out and a lot of them are stuck for the next direction. For example that latest Coldplay album feels like it could have came out in 2012, and that sound just isnt it anymore.
Rock has somewhat gone back to mainstream again since 2020. Also TikTok helps this as I see Zoomers were exposed to old rock music or today's pop/indie/alternative music that has rock influence. Their first 2 albums aged the best. Doesn't what time this is.
"iszktec" You can say the same thing with Pop singers whose music originally before the 2010s was Pop Rock
Long as they got a paying audience they will carry on (Agree with the Angus schoolboy thing.....it was originally funny because he actually looked like one.....40 odd years ago)
That's easy to say when you're a young spring chicken, and you're not the people in those bands who have so much passion for what they do, and they hate to stop.
If Coldplay really is done in 2025, 🤞their final album is a step up from the last two. It’d be amazing if they end things on a high note as far as putting out albums go. And for the record, I too thought Coloratura was fantastic.
Don't forget Flags
I saw The Who in May of 2022 and I went because the ticket was purchased for me. To be honest though, I was a little worried especially after seeing Roger sing on You Tube and, of course, his voice is nowhere near what it used to be and rightly so because of his age. But I was surprised on how good a show it was. I think today it's a matter of choice and opinions (just like on this channel) that vary wildly on whether bands should keep performing because of age and / or no original members left. Hard to say. I went and saw The Who with only 2 original members, but then again it was free for me. Would I pay top dollar to see REO Speedwagon (no original Members now), Foreigner (one original member, sometimes), Styx (one original Member) or Journey with only one original Member left? Probably not especially with their boring set lists, Journey especially on their 50th Anniversary tour. They're basically playing the same set list as when I saw them when Steve Augeri was at lead vocals. Pretty disheartening especially for the price tag. Time for everyone to retire.
@Christopher Bingham I saw Foreigner during their heyday around 1979-1980 as well as Styx and the Foreigner concert blew away Styx at that time. As far as Styx the debate will forever go on between Dennis DeYoung and Tommy Shaw. Without Dennis the band would never have gotten to where they got without him but I also say that it was a band effort to do what they did until the band self-imploded after 'Kilroy Was Here' was released. As far as REO I've been listening to them since 'Live: You Get What You Play For' and their next albums were stellar (Love 'Nine Lives') but when 'Hi-Infidelity' came out you could see the direction they were heading but I can put that album on and enjoy it. Remember Gary Richrath was instrumental and producer in the making of that album too and as much as he rocked out on previous albums he did write 'In Your Letter'. Been a Journey fan since 'Look Into the Future' came out before Steve Perry. And that band is the worst soap opera ever right now.
@Christopher Bingham Remember though seeing a band in person other than on You Tube or on a DVD is totally different. Just like when I saw The Who. I wasn't expecting what I got. I saw Van Halen on their final tour with David Lee Roth and yup, Roth was never a great singer and had gotten worse but it was the show that you went to see because it was a great show. I saw Kansas also in 1979 on their 'Monolith' tour and I would have to say that was the best concert at that time for me, better than Styx and Foreigner. Those guys just had it buttoned up and Steve Walsh was amazing during that time, probably all drugged up but at least he could still sing. When I saw them again during their 'Somewhere to Elsewhere' tour the difference in Steve's voice was beyond noticeable and not in a good way. Still a great show but his voice somehow didn't do the music justice. By far, Rush has been the cream of the crop for me. I saw them for the 2nd time during their final tour and what a show. If you like Dennis check out his last 2 albums that he released, '26 East' Volume 1 and then Volume 2. For me, those albums sound more like Styx than Styx did on their last 2 they released which just didn't have enough of the classic Styx sound that got them to where they got.
@Christopher Bingham I think it might depend on when they saw Lou Gramm. I saw him around 1979 so the band was really in their prime and basically still had their original members. From what I can remember Lou Gramm was stellar in his performance. For me the last 2 Styx albums although rave reviews by some and those fans will defend those 2 releases to the end I just can't see it. While the albums in themselves are okay they are both basically written by Will Evankovich who Tommy brought into the band and who seems to be a permanent fixture of the band now and will probably replace JY Young (IMO) when he can no longer tour leaving the band with zero original members. Only the song 'Gone' from the 'The Mission' really had that Styx sound. I loved 'Brave New World' even if everything was written separately and all because of the continued feud between Dennis, JY and Tommy. M y favorite album from the band to this day is 'Equinox'. Had it on vinyl and 8-Track back in the day and played it to death. Another current great band I've seen a couple of times in concert is Transatlantic. If you like progressive rock then this band is awesome. Typically 70-80 minute studio albums. They're basically a supergroup of Prog Musicians. If you've heard of Dream Theater, ex-drummer Mike Portnoy is in it. Great music for that genre and great performers live. I can go and on about music if you could tell so I'll stop here.
For a couple years now I'd been arguing that P!ATD was a project that should just call it quits at this point, but I guess considering the recent news about them, Brendan Urie agreed as well.
But I agree that U2 really should just become a touring band, since I have always wanted to see them live at some point.
Black Eyed Peas should retire also
Back to back trash Albums they’ve released
I only discovered this channel about a year ago, but it's fantastic. I always look forward to SOS. Thanks for keeping it going Jon!
Hey, thanks neighbor! Appreciate that
This is my favorite series you create
Agree with all of these except for AC/DC. As much as the tragic loss of Malcolm was a huge blow, his nephew Stevie is doing a great job carrying the torch. Angus is still pretty much as energetic as ever and Brian’s voice is a force to be reckoned with even in his 70s. Oh, and now he’s finally given in and started using in-ear monitors instead of floor wedges his hearing loss concerns have basically gone out the window. I don’t care if they never release another album, they’re still killing it live
I love AC/DC (their last album was stellar), you can't say that they're still killing it live when they haven't performed live in over half a decade.
Disagree ,Brian needed help with the vocals at the Taylor Hawkins tribute concert, maybe his hearing is sorted but I don't think he could perform for 2 hours a night just now and not end up with vocal damage
As a Brian Johnson fan, I have to disagree with you. His voice now and in recent years is absolutely fucken dreadful. You cannot be that much of a fan boy to completely ignore the fact that he sounds like Marge Simpson on a bad day. And as for the band itself, they’ve been a joke for quite a while now. 90% of their live setlist are Bon Scott era songs!
Thanks Jon … great list!
Wow a whole decade! The proof is in the pudding, Jon! You and Hannah are unstoppable!
As much as I’m inclined to agree that Weezer are maybe past their prime in a lot of ways, I just can’t bring myself to kill my darlings and agree it’s time to let them go. Through all their ups and downs they’ve remained my consistent all-time favorite band, and in a way I’ve come to love even a lot of their weaker material and see it as part of their charm, like no one else can be bad quite in the same way Weezer can. I do understand your logic, though, and would love to hear some more hidden gems in concert as well, as I got SOOO excited when they fired up “Fall Together” from Maladroit one time I was seeing them only for it to be used essentially as a transition song.
SOAD is my all-time favorite band and i really think it's a shame that for so long now they've been put on an indefinite hold with just sporadic touring and no new releases. they've left a legacy of a such a beautiful and unabashedly astounding discography the likes of which very VERY few bands are able to hold up. in my honest opinion, i think they shouldn't push themselves too hard to create a new record if all the members aren't seeing eye-to-eye creatively. i would much rather them call it quits and leave SOAD as the untarnished, monumental work of art that it is than continue trying to push out new music that would end up mediocre at best because of its forced nature. every single member: serj, daron, shavo, and john are all so unbelievably talented and i adore scars on broadway along with serj's solo work. but my point is, no truly good art is forced. art which leaves a huge positive impact comes naturally through people's experiences and bonds. something as incredible as SOAD can't just be forced, and i hope that if, by some miracle, we do get new music from them, that it'll stay true to who they've been as a band for so long now.
The Rolling Stones
I'm bummed as hell about Coldplay. They were my FAVOURITE when I was 12 and still, aside from MOTS, every album of theirs has at least one or two awesome songs that reach the level of their first 4 records, which makes it that much more frustrating. Good ol days man
First of all, congratulations on 10 years, Jon! And speaking of the hilarious segment on the Adam Levine show called Maroon 5, I feel that OneRepublic might want to consider calling it quits as well, since Ryan Tedder is, in my opinion, grasping for straws to stay relevant, at this point. And also given the fact that (technically) the band has been around for over 25 years (yes, Zach and Ryan's roots are the band's roots). And the same has to be said for my favorite band, unfortunately, Pantera. Phil, vocally, is just not able to cut it, anymore, as well, as to me the band lost its core with BOTH Dimebag, and Vinnie Paul gone. This "reunion" tour, to me, is nothing more than a nostalgia act, and not something authentic, as it would have been had Dimebag and Vinnie still lived to this day..... but anyway, I'm glad to see you back at it....
Ryan Tedder is Dollar General Adam Levine
Jon without facial hair. Thought something was different! Looks good with or without man.
I know it’s never gonna happen but it would be amazing with the early 2000’s revival going on if Maroon five went back to their early sound again finally
Well the problem I would say for most bands is they wouldn't know what to do without playing music or touring, especially successful bands. They would rather continue and I can't say I blame them, but its always sad to see your favorite bands lose what made them great and successful.
I’d like to add The Rolling Stones. They should have ended in the 90s
You listed some faves of mine...but their work has definitely not been up to snuff for a decade or in some cases more.... it's crazy. Much as I love some of em... they probably oughta call it quits. Particularly U2 really hasn't had an album that resonated with me since the mid the 2000's and I love them for essentially nearly getting me into music in the first place so they always have a special place in my heart.
Blink-182 should after their new album and tour
They actually might, and I’d be fine with that (if the album is solid)
I was promised hot takes and ruffled feathers.
All I got was rather insightful looks into why these bands should gracefully bow out.
Can't say I am dissapointed though. Great list.
I can't fully disagree with any of these, although Weezer stings the most; they do occasionally shine through with bangers even to this day but it's very inconsistent and makes it hard to be a fan. OK Human was absolutely fantastic - maybe they have another album like that in them, but maybe not. Impossible to say.
As much as System of a Down helped shaped my musical tastes, I've wanted them to break up for a few years now. They're never going to get it together for a new album, and at this point I'm not sure I'd even want one, as it would probably just sound like a Scars on Broadway record with Serj on backing vocals. That latest resentment-fuelled interview with John Dolmayan is just another nail in the coffin. Let it die, guys!
Could you say that the guitar lick (song) is in the beginning of your video? I know it, but can't recall who it is!
I'd add Avril Lavigne to this list. She had a good run but 20 years after her debut album I think she should call it quits.
She was a one album wonder. Her biggest single was used so many times in movie ads/ teasers, nobody could escape hearing it. Her follow up album did well on the momentum from the first. After that she fell off the face of the earth for the most part.
@@robertbruce7772 I really loved the one album but can't disagree when I never went on to buy anything else she did.
@@robertbruce7772 Let Go & Under My Skin are her best albums so I personally disagree
Guns N' Roses should be on there too
Like, I get how they manage to fill stadiums, and the legacy the have but idk. Maybe it's just me that I wouldn't personally pay to see them live. They aren't on their prime anymore and they haven't been for a very long time
Same with AC/DC, although they are better, despite still putting out music that sounds exactly as what they've been doing all these years.
Then Maroon 5... yes they're still young and can play for lots and lots of years, but there's no band. I'm surprised they haven't broken up yet knowing the majority doesn't seem to play a part on the studio. They for sure are the definition of selling out. I love their old material but they're the 1st band that I hate despite actually having been a fan.
You could say that back then they did "radio music" too, but it was one that for being very popular and commercial in a way was suprisingly good imo. New decade and everything went downhill. People say Jordi is their worst album, but they had got to rock bottom already with Red Pill Blues. They got there on that album and with Jordi they were on the ground face down on the concrete.
I saw Guns last weekend in Seattle and it was "world class" amazing. It was a 3-hour set. They sounded really good. Axl Rose is looking and sounding much better than he had been a few years back.
@@dynamicphotography_ yeah a friend of mine saw them, too and I haven't heard complains from him. Tbh is mostly what I've heard on the internet about them. Like Axel showing up very late and maybe not being as good as he used to
I would add Bon Jovi to this list. Jon can't even sing in tune or on time anymore. Even with four backing vocalists carrying him, it's not a pretty sight.
A bit of good news is Ritchie is returning to the band but Jon needs to rest his vocals.
Heard Kenny Loggins seemed out a vocal coach once he couldn’t hit those high notes and then he recovered with a bit of work.
@@Thomasmemoryscentral I would be excited to hear that, but I'm still skeptical as to whether or not Jon can bounce back from this. Part of me thinks it would be better if Richie sang lead, but then of course it wouldn't be Bon Jovi anymore.
A few band I think need to retire are Imagine Dragons, One Republic, Asking Alexamdria, A Day to Remember, and Maroon 5.
I admit that to this day I consider Songs About Jane to be one of the best pop-rock albums of the early millennium. But everything after that was pretty rubbish from Maroon 5, especially everything from the last 10 years. AC/DC have also passed their zenith for ages, I was surprised how average but good the last album was, even if it was copy/paste AC/DC, but they belong in retirement like many bands from that time.
I'm with you other than Incubus and Weezer. I'll always be open to new Weezer and there's the lingering possibility that Incubus might put out a good album in the future.
Thirty Seconds To Mars and Five Finger Death Punch come to mind, pretty sure I said those two on your old list and I maintain it to this day. I'm also pretty close to saying Arctic Monkeys although I guess I'll wait to see if their next album is an improvement.
Bon Jovi, Jon just can’t sing anymore
Thin Lizzy
I like looking at random bands’ histories, and I found out Thin Lizzy ended up reforming as a touring band about a decade after Phil Lynnot died. Afterwards, their lineup has been a mess and now they still perform under the Thin Lizzy name despite having no original member, and having only one classic member (Scott Gorham).
…yeah…
ACDC's last release was the 2020 album Power Up as a tribute to Malcolm Young, and I can't find anything on their website (or anywhere else) indicating any new music or any tours coming.
2024 they come here to Germany and it's full of innocents who pays up to 300 euros for a ticket.
Good video John
Keep em comin Jon I love it
I would have added Green Day to the list too.
you're a top g for not including RHCP and Metallica on this list
Ironically, you’ll see them both on next week’s SOS! In a positive light mostly
Why would Metallica be on this list? They sell out stadiums all around the world and are a very tight and solid band STILL. Just because you hate them doesn’t mean they should retire. Besides they have no one to pass the torch to. To this day no other metal band is close to their level
I agree with AC/DC, Maroon 5, Incubus, and U2 for being on the list. Mostly because most of these bands are past their prime and are never going to see the peak that they once had ever again. With Maroon 5 and Incubus, those two have been deteriorating in quality for a decade now.
I’d add Journey to the list, alongside countless other bands from the ‘80s to the ‘90s who just aren’t in good shape to top their early careers.
There are a lot of bands that were on a high pedestal and faded into obscurity and still making music and still touring, there are some bands that need to draw a line under a line under it especially in this day and age where a challenge to make a living from music and will never recreate the same success they had
to talk about bands that should be or already are retired is no challenge for me because close to all of my favourite bands fall under one of those two things.
I feel that the biggest outlier of my favourites is LINKIN PARK. Much like other people mentioned in this comment section, they've talked about potentially getting a new vocalist, and I have to agree with the others when they said that there's no chance that'll fly. Chester was one of many vocalists who is irreplaceable, much like Chris Cornell of Soundgarden (notice how they called it quits not too long after his untimely death).
A similar but more obscure situation that I'd personally like to bring into the light of day again is Blind Melon. While their new singer Travis Warren is good, I have to say that their glory days are long gone. Shannon Hoon's death should've been their stopping point because the guy was pretty much the driving lyrical force for every album. They've been putting out countless singles with Travis but never a new album because there's no chance they'll ever get back what was lost when Shannon passed.
AC/DC is not around for 60 years. But yeah it is 50 years and although I would love to see them live one more time, I think they have already retired since there was no tour for PowerUp.
10:15 i defintely didnt expect to see a DCAU reference in this video, I love it!
The only way I would accept AC/DC retiring is if Angus Young passes. Without Angus, There is no AC/DC
i love weezer and i can understand your points, but for me personally i want weezer to continue a bit longer. I know theyre gonna churn out some trash, but i also think theres gonna be a good album like ok human or the recent winter ep in between the mid stuff.
How is Guns N' Roses not here
I would love to see SOAD live, but in terms of new music, I think the band should split between Serj’s solo album and Scars on Broadway and just continue that way
And here I thought the elephant in the room would have been either Guns N Roses' overpriced half-decade tour with no new album or Motley Crue's overpriced tour with a bad singer and the now retirement of the only member that mattered...
Hahaha love that batman beyond throwback. You've got good taste ARTV!
🙌 thank you haha
This one is definitely a no-brainer, But Puddle Of Mudd needs to officially call it quits for now.
If the godawful Nirvana cover and overall performance of Welcome To Galvania tells us anything, It's that Wes cannot sing in the same way as he could in the early 2000's, He strains his vocal chords way too much and almost always fails to hit the proper notes as a result.
Granted, I get why he doesn't want to receive proper vocal training, And or surgery cause he doesn't want to lose the distinct qualities of his voice (Which some would argue is a good thing). But it's gotten to the point where even the worst of singers can sing better than him currently, C.T.B for as bad as he is can at least hit the notes without straining. (Though I'd argue that his music is a lot easier than Wes' to begin with, POM is FULL of high strained notes)
Apparently there's gonna be a new album releasing from them this year (Supposedly it's being mixed by the same guy who did both Come Clean and Life on Display), And if so I think that it should be the last. Cause unless Wes finally gets the proper care that he needs, Things aren't going to get better.
Brian’s got his hearing fixed. I guess Phil’s at least got his shit together well enough to put out a new album. Even as a diehard AC/DC fan who prefers Phil, I will agree it was shitty how they did Chris this time when Phil came back.
I Love incubus!
Thoughts on your list
Coldplay=Definitely agree. Hope they end up going back to their roots on their last album as it would suck for them to continue on that Pop sound a la Maroon 5 and end up tarnishing their legacy.
AC/DC=Agreed mostly after the reception of PWR/UP although I liked Shot in the Dark and Realize. I've even seen people say that this album was the best rock album of 2020. Personally, I wouldn't say it is the best when BMTH's Post Human: Survival Horror exists.
Incubus=Agreed. I don't personally really care for stuff after A Crow Left of the Murder and don't really listen to them although Pardon Me, Drive, Wish You Were Here, Nice to Know You and Megalomaniac are great tunes. The band to me that is continuing on that sound but heavier is Nothing More.
U2=Totally agree. I didn't even know they still made music after How to Dismantle an Atomic in 2004
System Of a Down=As much as they are my 5th favourite band, I think they should just be a touring band and not release new music as they would end up ruining their legacy just like Coldplay
Maroon 5=Agree. To be fair, their popularity is likely falling off now mostly because Jordi flopped in 2022 (Don't be surprised when Todd in The Shadows covers this for Trainwreckords in 2026) and cheating allegations of Adam Levine in 2022.
Weezer=I think they should just be a touring band at this point. Most of their music Post Green Album is just hit or miss in my eyes.
One that needs to retire is in the same vein as SoaD, and that's Rage Against the Machine. I love their work and listen to those three albums every couple of weeks even after all these years, but the idea of them releasing a new album together just seems like a dream at this point that's never going to come true. They had a lot of insightful and provocative things to say with their music but after Prophets of Rage it's clear they're not going to have anything new to bring to the table and this tour they've been trying to get going on is just not working out for them at all. It's at the point where I'd be happy just to keep those three albums in my collection and go see a cover band instead of the real thing. Love me some Rage but I think it's time for them to go their separate ways and just do anything else.
Oh no Weezer is on this, I think Rivers said he was planning to retire at 60 in an interview a few years ago but that might've changed, anyway I agree in a sense that they've released way too much stuff the last few years and I wish they prioritized quality over quantity, I'd be way more on the side of they should retire if it wasn't for them releasing OK Human, one of the absolute best weezer albums.
According to Rivers discord he's also planning to shake up the setlist for the upcoming tour, so that's good news at least.
OK Human is severely slept on. i didn’t have high hopes for it, but it’s so much better and more consistent that a good chunk of their later albums!
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Mammoth WVH
Also, 9:56 is every parent when their kid says their first word.
To be honest, I feel like one band that really should retire is Blink-182. Their new song "EDGING" was fine, sure, but the fact they got Tom back for that song just comes to show how much of a nostalgia act they are now. They seem to only really have the past to relish on, and when they do make new music, it kinda just sounds like a flavorless mush of what made their past music work. Also, Mark's and Tom's voices just sound shot and overprocessed
I’ll wait for the full album before I make that call
I agree with you tom could always go back to AVA after
Rolling stones kiss and especially motley crue should be on here
bollocks stones still the best band on the planet listen to hackney diamonds
A majority, if not all of the metal bands don't need to retire at all, but some have already retired or broken up. Anyway, 70s legends Saxon and Judas Priest don't need to retire. They're doing well for themselves. Saxon has improved since 1997 and haven't slowed down at all. Judas Priest's Firepower is such an explosive album that was so awesome. Iron Maiden is doing fine as well. Megadeth's last album is a banger and showed us that Megadeth still have some steam left in them.
ACDC man i know countless people that got into the music cause of them, Even tho they get hate for being the same, im glad its that way
I absolutely expected you to add GNR to this list as they’ve been touring the same set list for 30 years. Maybe the vid would be taken down? I saw Weezer for the first time last year in Dublin when they played with Fall Out Boy and Green Day. They were the best band that day. Green Day just did the hits. Not their best day, but then again, I needed a piss the whole time and couldn’t get out of the crowd. 2 hours of “this is great guys, but I’m concentrating on not pissing myself”. Damn that beer.
I think maroon 5, imagine dragons, ajr and one republic needs to retire as they make horrible music that I refuse to listen to.
I get the impression even System of a Down aren't sure if System of a Down are still going.