In this scene Gene and Barry are in a trailer for a show they’re gonna be on. Here they talk about Janice Moss and if her death could’ve been prevented
I thought first Barry wanted to get Gene a new career so that he could blackmail him with destroying his career when Gene was about to go to the police but Barry genuinely believed that Gene would forgive him if he gave him a job.
He is a scary guy. I really like the way they have made the characters in this show so complex. Audiences like to see characters as the “good guys” or the “bad guys”, this show doesn’t let us get away with that.
Bill Hader, obviously, has done such a wonderful job of using the world's general view of him as a comedic / goofy / happy go lucky-type person / actor to subvert his eventual turn to darkness in his Barry character. It's fucking wonderful.
From like the very first scene of the season I felt that same way. Just ices two dudes at the very thought of forgiveness and his time wasted. It was cold but a perfect opening scene.
@@paulmanton9712eventual? I think y’all are buying into the satire a little too much if you don’t think Barry was bad day 1. Sure he struggled but he’s been murdering since before we meet him lmao
I love how Gene never breaks his facial expression throughout this entire scene. He sees right through all of Barry’s justifications and excuses for what he did, and he’s not gonna just let it slide like Barry wants, especially after he took it a step further by threatening Leo.
Its really genuinely heartbreaking, Gene was inadvertently in the process of mending Barry but his relationship with the detective investigating Barry just ruined everything and she caught on before he could become the kind of man to take responsibility for his actions over the past few years. All Barry needed was like one more year of comfortable, peaceful life to distance himself from his bad side.
@@Frikcha Nooo, the whole point is that Barry only cares about Barry and he’s a psychopath that thinks it’s ok to kill rather than accept responsibility for his actions. He didn’t have to kill Janice or anyone.
Bill Hader's performance is still funny, but now Barry actually comes off as disturbing. The way he brushes off Janice's murder makes you realize he may never be redeemed. Brilliant acting.
I saw that too, I felt that shit. Unfortunately I have people in my life like that, whose touch makes my soul shriek a little. They want the reassurance of touch, or they think that makes a connection, but have so damaged the relationship that the touch feel like poison. It be like that, and Henry nailed it.
It was never going to end well, he was lost from the first frame of this show. When it started I did feel bad for Barry, but as the show goes on I feel more revulsed by him. Much like Breaking Bad, it is entertaining to see how bad it can it can get and how this dude is going to flame out. I love Bill Hader, it is a testament to his acting, and that team's writing, that he is able to make me hate him.
@@thehoodedvagabum7375 Season 2 made a very good job putting Barry in this track. Maybe rewatching it could help out seeing this. It's been 2 years since it ended
@@gusngregg5127 You kidding me bro? I think I watch the whole series every two monts haha precisely season 2... he was trying to get rid of his past but still doing terrible shit. I love hit. I mean, as an art work tho lol
This is the scene that made me realize I was watching something special. This is the first time one of Barry's victims has a one on one chat with him. it lays out, what most of us have already suspected, that Barry doesn't see murder as a choice, but rather bad cosmic circumstances or bad luck, like it couldn't have avoided. "The whole thing was just really unfortunate" as he put it. If Breaking Bad is a deconstruction of what it means to become evil. Barry is the deconstruction of becoming good(and whether your capable of it).
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter except he wants to be good. And it breaks down whether horrible people like Barry are capable of realizing they can't be good. Spoiler he can't. But that's what's made the deconstruction of his character interesting to watch.
Barry's transition from a traumatized veteran who really wanted a better life to an irrational psycho makes me feel so disappointed in him but it's still so well written. The guy has completely lost his sense, and i see it in his eyes. Bill Hader is not just acting Barry he BECAME Barry. Top notch acting.
I think what separates Barry from Breaking Bad or Mad Men is that Barry really is just absolutely one of the most evil characters ever put to screen and Bill and co were smart enough to avoid giving him the cool factor of other similar archetypes.
@@soultheconfusing9563 I think he meant "cool" as in how the protagonists of Breaking Bad and Mad Men seem like their own bosses, despite the damage they do.
The layers of this show….Barry’s line is what I did is terrible…and I’m truly sorry.” He says the line as though it means nothing, because it really doesn’t to Barry. Gene’s line in the show with him is “I accept your apology.” He say that line in such a bitter wooden way that details his deep pain if looking right at the killer of his love. Then Barry is like “that was great!” Like he cant perceive the true emotions of others, especially the one grieving the murder he performed. He barely has an ounce of empathy. Just brilliant frame within a frame writing, and an excellent way of asking what is the difference between acting and reality? ALSO there is a deeper perspective here on sacrifice and what it takes for a person to change. It took Janice’s murder to get Gene an acting gig AND for him to be a nice person to others on sets. He was blacklisted for having a history of tyrannical behavior himself. His humanity is only discovered when something awful happens directly to him, and as a shadow of himself, he is one with empathy and a desire to care for others. Brilliant writing.
They were able to do the classic face to heel swap in wrestling. Barry went from the protagonist to the antagonist of the series. Every scene he's in I'm so tense that he will hurt or lose his cool on somebody.
Such good cinematography. Mirror in the background when everything is "fine" and they are practicing lines. The moment Gene gets real and questions him only single shot of the one talking with a closed background. No underlying things the real Barry. Bill Hader excellent acting to pull off the change as well.
Something this scene demonstrates with the show is how amazing Bill Hader's acting is that he acts bad at acting (in his line reading), and then at 0:47 the slow, suspended change in Barry's expression says so much. So much confusion, regret, and reluctance expressed in such a small way
Gene putting the pieces together and immediately pointing out the dramatic irony of him inviting Moss and Barry to a cabin in the woods and giving the final piece of the puzzle.
At the start of the series Barry is just completely lost. The acting bug gave Barry a reason to hope, but turned him into just another monster walking among other monsters.
He’s not a psychopath. A psychopath wouldn’t care. Barry’s damage is far more interesting because a psychopath (like Fuches) wouldn’t care who he hurt or try to make things better. That’s why this is so good. A story about a psychopath would be boring as hell.
@@diesemautokerl2181 Sociopath, psychopath, have you seen the newest episodes? My man definitely does not empathize as a human should. Whatever the case is, his brain is fucked beyond repair.
It is so curious how Barry goes from a likable, sad character, to someone who is a freaky shell of a human been. Someone nobody would want to get close to. A shallow shell of a psycopath who knows nothing about social interactions.
One of my early criticisms of this show was the “likable killers” aspect, which struck me as sophomoric, immoral and lowbrow. Like it was all “Fuck yeah, Barry! Kill em all! Awesome!”. But it really won me back by showing Barry is a monster, he doesn’t deserve a “happy” ending. Nor does any of the other “likable killers” like Hank and Fuchs crew.
I doubt this will end like You where Barry gets away with it all by killing everyone who was a threat to him. I wish it would though. I'd like to see that Barry left alive, pained and regretful, after killing Gene and Sally.
I'm sensing a really bittersweet ending for this show is coming. Barry clearly wants nothing more than to be a good person, its just clearly at odds with the other side of his personality, a part of him that will just kill without hesitation to maintain his lifestyle. If he finally, truly grows into a better person; then it will probably already be too late, and if he never does then I really can't imagine anyone stopping him from just killing everyone and "re-trying" life.
Yeah they either need to go full tragedy where his entire life falls apart in the saddest way possible, or they do like 3-4 seasons of redemption arc once he really hits rock-bottom. I don't think they'll run the show through many more seasons, but they definitely could. They could send Barry to prison, send him to Chechnya, put him undercover for the feds, introduce another hitman character to provide a different perspective, etc. Since the show is a comedy-drama there are a lot of different avenues they could go down while staying consistent with the tone of the show. It's a lot less jarring to escalate a comedy past the point of believable reality, so they have a lot of time before they reach the shark-jumping point.
This conversation was tripping me up, but Gene is going to fold under cross. Did Mr. Berman ever tell you he killed Detective Moss? You only heard it from this man you know as Goulet, correct?
Through all his flaws, I still really like Barry. Do right by him and he's genuinely decent to you... but he'd cut his loved ones throat to stay out of prison, that's something you kind of have to make peace with lol
He’ll selfishly kill anyone to avoid responsibility for his actions, that’s not something anyone should make peace with. If you still like Barry, you’re not really watching the show. Even Bill Hader hates Barry.
Look I feel bad for Barry here but Gene here truly sad I mean he really loved Janice he really did but after all of this it’s pretty much a hard reality…….. No one gets a happy ending I mean I learn that from experience😔but I chose to believe in some light.
@@samfanhellyeah because he never wanted any of this he’s trying his best but he can’t change anything that happens and yet somehow he’s always lucky to never get caught because of how he was trained
If you want a show with non stop laughs find BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. It’s a travel show starring: William Shatner, Henry Winkler, George Foreman, and Terry Bradshaw.
I think the writers didn't have the balls to just have Barry kill Gene right away, but didn't want Gene to just immediately go to the cops either, so they had this strange in between that totally deflated the INCREDBLE conflict set up at the end of season 2. I especially feel this way because of the way season 3 ended, which is how it should have begun if Gene was going to live.
What's the point of watching breaking bad? The point of Barry isn't to watch him redeem himself or anything like that. It's about a psychopath that tried to become better but couldn't escape it due to his own cowardice and insecurities.
@@SomethingWittyRW Both shows serve as cautionary tales about succumbing to your inner demons, in that you’ll end up ruining the lives of everyone you know/love.
I'm sorry. This kind of broke the story for me. Kind of just paints Barry as an actual psychopath. Earlier it seemed like he was lost and trying to find a way out. Now it just seems like a madman living out a fantasy. And not even convincingly. I have suspicion that hell get away with it all as some suave commentary on Hollywood sweeping things under the rug and play out some cynical mariachi track at the end now.
What I think is the saddest of all, is if he just fuckin went with Janice and faced the music then, he could’ve gotten essentially the same outcome by ratting out Noho and the Bolivians. He would’ve been able to have Gene sympathize with him far more and least tell him he doesn’t personally hate him when he got out. Then again I don’t think Sally would go with him in this scenario, but I don’t really think she’s a great person anyway.
It’s like the people in these comments don’t even realize that Barry got Gene a line.
Bruh
Overlooked comment lol
“You’re welcome”😅😅😅
Selfish people!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I thought first Barry wanted to get Gene a new career so that he could blackmail him with destroying his career when Gene was about to go to the police but Barry genuinely believed that Gene would forgive him if he gave him a job.
"the whole thing is just really unfortunate" is one of the most psychotic lines of all time lmao
Death is natural it will always happen but it is just unfortunate
such a political sounding statement
@@jjhassyThat’s a great way of putting it
Barry's gone from sympathetic to villainous so fast. I used to feel sorry for him, but now I'm scared of him.
He is a scary guy. I really like the way they have made the characters in this show so complex. Audiences like to see characters as the “good guys” or the “bad guys”, this show doesn’t let us get away with that.
Bill Hader, obviously, has done such a wonderful job of using the world's general view of him as a comedic / goofy / happy go lucky-type person / actor to subvert his eventual turn to darkness in his Barry character. It's fucking wonderful.
From like the very first scene of the season I felt that same way. Just ices two dudes at the very thought of forgiveness and his time wasted. It was cold but a perfect opening scene.
He literally got Gene a line 🤷
@@paulmanton9712eventual? I think y’all are buying into the satire a little too much if you don’t think Barry was bad day 1. Sure he struggled but he’s been murdering since before we meet him lmao
I love how Gene never breaks his facial expression throughout this entire scene. He sees right through all of Barry’s justifications and excuses for what he did, and he’s not gonna just let it slide like Barry wants, especially after he took it a step further by threatening Leo.
Its really genuinely heartbreaking, Gene was inadvertently in the process of mending Barry but his relationship with the detective investigating Barry just ruined everything and she caught on before he could become the kind of man to take responsibility for his actions over the past few years. All Barry needed was like one more year of comfortable, peaceful life to distance himself from his bad side.
@@Frikcha LOL he's a sociopath.
@@Frikcha Nooo, the whole point is that Barry only cares about Barry and he’s a psychopath that thinks it’s ok to kill rather than accept responsibility for his actions. He didn’t have to kill Janice or anyone.
Bill Hader's performance is still funny, but now Barry actually comes off as disturbing. The way he brushes off Janice's murder makes you realize he may never be redeemed. Brilliant acting.
"This trailer is NICE. "
@@danweyant707 “You got a line. You’re WELCOME.”
" Look, we've both done terrible things in our lives. "
Kent Hefele nice Bizarro profile pic
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Thanks
I love his shudder after Barry touches him, really shows just how much he despises him
Henry Winkler is next level. Just a little gesture meant so much! Blink and you miss it!
I saw that too, I felt that shit. Unfortunately I have people in my life like that, whose touch makes my soul shriek a little. They want the reassurance of touch, or they think that makes a connection, but have so damaged the relationship that the touch feel like poison.
It be like that, and Henry nailed it.
Barry really has lost it. This cannot end well
Barry has Shakespeare tragedy written all over him this season
I can´t even recognize the guy anymore... he´s... fucking... INSANE...
Like not even funny insane, like Hank, but wow. Just wow. What a show.
It was never going to end well, he was lost from the first frame of this show. When it started I did feel bad for Barry, but as the show goes on I feel more revulsed by him. Much like Breaking Bad, it is entertaining to see how bad it can it can get and how this dude is going to flame out. I love Bill Hader, it is a testament to his acting, and that team's writing, that he is able to make me hate him.
@@thehoodedvagabum7375 Season 2 made a very good job putting Barry in this track. Maybe rewatching it could help out seeing this. It's been 2 years since it ended
@@gusngregg5127 You kidding me bro? I think I watch the whole series every two monts haha precisely season 2... he was trying to get rid of his past but still doing terrible shit. I love hit. I mean, as an art work tho lol
This is the scene that made me realize I was watching something special. This is the first time one of Barry's victims has a one on one chat with him. it lays out, what most of us have already suspected, that Barry doesn't see murder as a choice, but rather bad cosmic circumstances or bad luck, like it couldn't have avoided. "The whole thing was just really unfortunate" as he put it.
If Breaking Bad is a deconstruction of what it means to become evil. Barry is the deconstruction of becoming good(and whether your capable of it).
Lmao, but he's not becoming good, he kills purely out of self interest. He's a horrible person.
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter except he wants to be good. And it breaks down whether horrible people like Barry are capable of realizing they can't be good. Spoiler he can't. But that's what's made the deconstruction of his character interesting to watch.
The Sopranos already did that 15 years ago and they did it 500x times better. Nothing about this show is new or different.
@@stairwaytoheaven8 cool
Barry really called the death of the love of his life, "unfortunate" this entire show was completely tragic yet beautiful at the same time
"love of his life" is a bit strong, he's clearly the type with 3 ex wives
Barry's transition from a traumatized veteran who really wanted a better life to an irrational psycho makes me feel so disappointed in him but it's still so well written. The guy has completely lost his sense, and i see it in his eyes. Bill Hader is not just acting Barry he BECAME Barry. Top notch acting.
I think what separates Barry from Breaking Bad or Mad Men is that Barry really is just absolutely one of the most evil characters ever put to screen and Bill and co were smart enough to avoid giving him the cool factor of other similar archetypes.
I mean idk man that shootout scene at the end of s2 was pretty cool lol
@@soultheconfusing9563 I think he meant "cool" as in how the protagonists of Breaking Bad and Mad Men seem like their own bosses, despite the damage they do.
The look in Barry’s eyes is genuinely terrifying.
Gene's "that was fuckin' true" was hilarious.
The layers of this show….Barry’s line is what I did is terrible…and I’m truly sorry.” He says the line as though it means nothing, because it really doesn’t to Barry. Gene’s line in the show with him is “I accept your apology.” He say that line in such a bitter wooden way that details his deep pain if looking right at the killer of his love. Then Barry is like “that was great!” Like he cant perceive the true emotions of others, especially the one grieving the murder he performed. He barely has an ounce of empathy. Just brilliant frame within a frame writing, and an excellent way of asking what is the difference between acting and reality? ALSO there is a deeper perspective here on sacrifice and what it takes for a person to change. It took Janice’s murder to get Gene an acting gig AND for him to be a nice person to others on sets. He was blacklisted for having a history of tyrannical behavior himself. His humanity is only discovered when something awful happens directly to him, and as a shadow of himself, he is one with empathy and a desire to care for others. Brilliant writing.
The dialogue in this show is so genius. Really an instant underrated classic.
They were able to do the classic face to heel swap in wrestling. Barry went from the protagonist to the antagonist of the series. Every scene he's in I'm so tense that he will hurt or lose his cool on somebody.
Such good cinematography. Mirror in the background when everything is "fine" and they are practicing lines. The moment Gene gets real and questions him only single shot of the one talking with a closed background. No underlying things the real Barry. Bill Hader excellent acting to pull off the change as well.
Henry Winkler should be getting another Emmy for Barry this season.
its pretty scary and telling how Barry compares estranging your son to murdering hundreds
What a good guy, after all that he was STILL willing to get Gene a line
Something this scene demonstrates with the show is how amazing Bill Hader's acting is that he acts bad at acting (in his line reading), and then at 0:47 the slow, suspended change in Barry's expression says so much. So much confusion, regret, and reluctance expressed in such a small way
Gene putting the pieces together and immediately pointing out the dramatic irony of him inviting Moss and Barry to a cabin in the woods and giving the final piece of the puzzle.
At the start of the series Barry is just completely lost. The acting bug gave Barry a reason to hope, but turned him into just another monster walking among other monsters.
A bit like how psychotherapy helped Tony Soprano just be a better sociopath.
@@kentvesser9484 For Tony Soprano it was very different, Redemption was always outside of the realm of possibility for him
Barry has finally gripped the wheel of life and is driving in P gear now: Psychopath.
He’s not a psychopath. A psychopath wouldn’t care. Barry’s damage is far more interesting because a psychopath (like Fuches) wouldn’t care who he hurt or try to make things better. That’s why this is so good. A story about a psychopath would be boring as hell.
2:45 Jesus Christ Barry like that supposed to make up for the fact that you killed his girlfriend
He’s desperate enough to believe anything at this point.
"We've both done terrible things..."
Everyone has a touch of Barry, that's why he ressonates and repulses.
Their dynamic in Season 3 is eerily reminiscent of Todd and Jesse’s in Breaking Bad
Todd and Barry are both psychopaths
@@bigchoppa783 Barry is definitely not a psychopath
@@diesemautokerl2181 Sociopath, psychopath, have you seen the newest episodes? My man definitely does not empathize as a human should. Whatever the case is, his brain is fucked beyond repair.
Winkler is so fucking good in this scene. The rage building inside him as Barry gives him a shit eating grin is just perfect.
It is so curious how Barry goes from a likable, sad character, to someone who is a freaky shell of a human been. Someone nobody would want to get close to. A shallow shell of a psycopath who knows nothing about social interactions.
Wow, this scene is incredible 👏
*YUHHH... they're lettin me keep muh beard!*
Barry reminds me of Todd from Breaking Bad.
One of my early criticisms of this show was the “likable killers” aspect, which struck me as sophomoric, immoral and lowbrow. Like it was all “Fuck yeah, Barry! Kill em all! Awesome!”. But it really won me back by showing Barry is a monster, he doesn’t deserve a “happy” ending. Nor does any of the other “likable killers” like Hank and Fuchs crew.
I fucking hate "likeable killers" in media. It only worked with Dexter, all the others are fucking garage and I hate every ounce of it.
I doubt this will end like You where Barry gets away with it all by killing everyone who was a threat to him. I wish it would though. I'd like to see that Barry left alive, pained and regretful, after killing Gene and Sally.
The thing about You is that the main character is a true psychopath, and wouldn’t care about how many people he would kill, unlike Barry.
I'm sensing a really bittersweet ending for this show is coming. Barry clearly wants nothing more than to be a good person, its just clearly at odds with the other side of his personality, a part of him that will just kill without hesitation to maintain his lifestyle. If he finally, truly grows into a better person; then it will probably already be too late, and if he never does then I really can't imagine anyone stopping him from just killing everyone and "re-trying" life.
I feel like the only chance that Barry has for redemption is to somehow sacrifice himself to help the people he hurt
Yeah they either need to go full tragedy where his entire life falls apart in the saddest way possible, or they do like 3-4 seasons of redemption arc once he really hits rock-bottom. I don't think they'll run the show through many more seasons, but they definitely could. They could send Barry to prison, send him to Chechnya, put him undercover for the feds, introduce another hitman character to provide a different perspective, etc. Since the show is a comedy-drama there are a lot of different avenues they could go down while staying consistent with the tone of the show. It's a lot less jarring to escalate a comedy past the point of believable reality, so they have a lot of time before they reach the shark-jumping point.
@@viciousclam2417 Can't jump the shark again in a show with the Fonz in it.
Well, this certainly has a new feeling to it now
This conversation was tripping me up, but Gene is going to fold under cross. Did Mr. Berman ever tell you he killed Detective Moss? You only heard it from this man you know as Goulet, correct?
Barry's line at :22 reminds me so much of Nick Offerman/Ron Swanson
yeah, sort of perfunctory, formal, overstated and dismissive all at once
I’ll always look on the brighter side of life, Monty Python.
Ngl, I kinda hope Barry gets caught
hey
SPOILERS:
He did
@@kenthefele113 Yeah, I saw
I’m so happy it happened 😁
“wanna run lines? yeah-alright”
“we ahve a good thing going here”
🚪🏃♀️
Two got two thumbs and a dead girl friend?
THIS GUY!
This is one of those times when you wanna tell the other guy shut up but he’d kill you if you do #relatable
Every goddamn tuesday
Barry used to be Walter white. Now he is Heisenberg.
nah he started off as Heisenberg we just thought he was walter white
Seeing how they ended off dexter i dont see this ending well at all
yep. the show is going downhill right about now, with only a few episodes left.
Lol Barry 😂
Why does it say Ben Mendelson?
That’s the episode title, there’s a small joke about him in it
Am I tripping or do we hear Henry Winkler very quietly say "lines" after he's asked if he wants to run lines?
It was Barry just mumbling/grunting
0:15
The psychopathy is strong in this one.
Through all his flaws, I still really like Barry. Do right by him and he's genuinely decent to you... but he'd cut his loved ones throat to stay out of prison, that's something you kind of have to make peace with lol
He’ll selfishly kill anyone to avoid responsibility for his actions, that’s not something anyone should make peace with. If you still like Barry, you’re not really watching the show. Even Bill Hader hates Barry.
I continually forget that this is actually all because Hank brought the lipstick camera
Not his fault for just being a bit of a gear head
Super fucked up and all but damn is Bill Hader aging like fine wine.
i never said that.....
Genes tie is totally a joke!
Look I feel bad for Barry here but Gene here truly sad I mean he really loved Janice he really did but after all of this it’s pretty much a hard reality……..
No one gets a happy ending I mean I learn that from experience😔but I chose to believe in some light.
i do not feel bad for barry at all
How do You feel bad for Barry?
How can you feel sorry for Barry?
@@Nate-uf4xk Yhea, but he also kill her
@@samfanhellyeah because he never wanted any of this he’s trying his best but he can’t change anything that happens and yet somehow he’s always lucky to never get caught because of how he was trained
Barry should’ve let Fuches kill Gene.
Janice should've known better than to step to a real killer
If you want a show with non stop laughs find BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. It’s a travel show starring: William Shatner, Henry Winkler, George Foreman, and Terry Bradshaw.
I think the writers didn't have the balls to just have Barry kill Gene right away, but didn't want Gene to just immediately go to the cops either, so they had this strange in between that totally deflated the INCREDBLE conflict set up at the end of season 2. I especially feel this way because of the way season 3 ended, which is how it should have begun if Gene was going to live.
What is the point of watching Barry
if he's a irreedemable psychopath? I feel like he was a more nuanced and complex character before
What's the point of watching breaking bad?
The point of Barry isn't to watch him redeem himself or anything like that. It's about a psychopath that tried to become better but couldn't escape it due to his own cowardice and insecurities.
@@SomethingWittyRW Both shows serve as cautionary tales about succumbing to your inner demons, in that you’ll end up ruining the lives of everyone you know/love.
I'm sorry. This kind of broke the story for me. Kind of just paints Barry as an actual psychopath.
Earlier it seemed like he was lost and trying to find a way out.
Now it just seems like a madman living out a fantasy. And not even convincingly. I have suspicion that hell get away with it all as some suave commentary on Hollywood sweeping things under the rug and play out some cynical mariachi track at the end now.
Hes always been like that, hes a maniac that only feels depression, obsession and pure aggression
@@KYR.HAMBASSADOR and he's just not that intelligent and doesn't understand people at all
@@jtorola hes socially inept
What did you think of the finale?
Um...because he is?
“No , she was good at her job..”
🥲
man, this crack me up so hard
Came here looking for this. He was like, reassuring Gene that he'd have killed her as soon as she figured it out no matter what.
What I think is the saddest of all, is if he just fuckin went with Janice and faced the music then, he could’ve gotten essentially the same outcome by ratting out Noho and the Bolivians. He would’ve been able to have Gene sympathize with him far more and least tell him he doesn’t personally hate him when he got out. Then again I don’t think Sally would go with him in this scenario, but I don’t really think she’s a great person anyway.