A Talk On Romantic Relationships-Orion Taraban

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  • čas přidán 22. 03. 2024
  • Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Orion Taraban, a psychologist in the Bay Area.
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  • @anniefitzgerald499
    @anniefitzgerald499 Před 2 měsíci +379

    Hi there , I m almost 70 and FULLY agree with Orian's theories. I think they are factual and honest and are coming from a deeply loving source rooted in experience and truth. I agree with you Mark when you say he is The Darwin of the future re relationships, You are a LOVING VISIONARY SURGEON of minds and will be recognised for your WISDOM and INSIGHT in the near future. I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST for the courageous work you are bringing to humanity. You are truly GIFTED and i sincerely THANK YOU and Mark for the amazing work you both do. BLESSINGS and JOY in ABUNDANCE. 🙂🙂🙂🙂

    • @TeamAwesomeDad
      @TeamAwesomeDad Před 2 měsíci +33

      Bullshit

    • @NathanSmutz
      @NathanSmutz Před 2 měsíci +11

      This reminds me of Peterson's (lobster) stuff about your hormones and neurotransmitters tracking your place in the hierarchy.

    • @msmendes214
      @msmendes214 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Not Mark pinning this one. 😬😬😬

    • @AnaFernandez-jp5uh
      @AnaFernandez-jp5uh Před 2 měsíci +21

      Darwin! Not even close.

    • @pastabatman
      @pastabatman Před 2 měsíci

      Annie has some screws loose in her head.

  • @PostMortemor
    @PostMortemor Před 2 měsíci +936

    I'm 37 and one thing I understood in life is that people just want magic, in relationships, in products, in spirituality, politics, marketing and so on. If you tell them the truth you lose them. You have to be a magician 🎩

    • @batchimegdamdindorj8557
      @batchimegdamdindorj8557 Před 2 měsíci +69

      Well I must be in the minority because I couldn’t care less about magic no more approaching 34 soon been out of the dating game for a while now I just want peace and contentment in everything in life. I’m so over the excitement the elusive attraction and the fucking game.

    • @donnahickman9350
      @donnahickman9350 Před 2 měsíci +11

      Me too.

    • @reneelibby4885
      @reneelibby4885 Před 2 měsíci +10

      so many people, yes. especially young people.

    • @SuperReznative
      @SuperReznative Před 2 měsíci +20

      Jesus and back to committment to God and each other

    • @Pabloandresariza
      @Pabloandresariza Před 2 měsíci +1

      No.

  • @IndigoWisdom1
    @IndigoWisdom1 Před 2 měsíci +247

    I'm a woman and I absolutely support and love his work. I'm pro-relationships and find Orion's work and advice quite sobering and empowering. 👍🏽

    • @EsteBahia
      @EsteBahia Před 2 měsíci +1

      You might want to look into Dr. Shawn T. Smith's work.

    • @IndigoWisdom1
      @IndigoWisdom1 Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@cyberovaries You can't pimp me psychologically. I can appreciate someone's perspective without taking it on. Why? Because I form my Own ideas and conclusions and don't need to watch Any video telling me Anything to be able to THINK ON MY OWN.

    • @cyberovaries
      @cyberovaries Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@IndigoWisdom1 Agree to disagree, sister. Every human on this planet can and has been brainwashed in one way or another. I just did my part and informed you. You exercise your free will however you want to. Have a good day!

    • @bitterroots7317
      @bitterroots7317 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@cyberovariesjust curious, what is your evidence or source for free will existing? Scientific research is providing a lot of data showing otherwise.

    • @Stanthemilkman
      @Stanthemilkman Před 2 měsíci

      ​@IndigoWisdom1 u just said u like this guys ideas.

  • @godstomper
    @godstomper Před 2 měsíci +394

    The problem with relationships now is that there are too many distractions and too many unrealistic expectations

    • @mauiskater
      @mauiskater Před 2 měsíci +10

      Amen to that and we live too long. Haha. We died at age 50 before so you didn’t have to live together as long. 😊

    • @diletante6800
      @diletante6800 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yes, and I've met lots of married folks in their 80'', and 90's

    • @arizona71189
      @arizona71189 Před 2 měsíci +11

      1 fight and 1 time seeing an ugly side someone is gone..easy to give up

    • @godstomper
      @godstomper Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@diletante6800 I'm talking about this current generation under 50

    • @diletante6800
      @diletante6800 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@godstomper absolutely

  • @lisaproustresearch
    @lisaproustresearch Před 2 měsíci +358

    This man is so full of knowledge !! Sadly, it's not very "romantic" but quite realistic --- what would you rather hear? The truth or a fairy tale?

    • @reneelibby4885
      @reneelibby4885 Před 2 měsíci +20

      truth will set you free

    • @SuperReznative
      @SuperReznative Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@reneelibby4885Jesus Truth will set you Free. Read the gospel of John

    • @Gecmajster123456
      @Gecmajster123456 Před 2 měsíci

      Americans want fairytales, just look at Wrestling, transitioning kids these days, some of those are living in some kind of fantasy world..

    • @taurusthebull76
      @taurusthebull76 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Most people are very simple & don't ask why or attempt to understand things beyond the surface.

    • @SteveJones379
      @SteveJones379 Před 2 měsíci +14

      @lisaproustresearch My mother told my father..."just lie to me." Apparently she prefers delusion and fairytale. Bizarre. Her and I don't speak.

  • @southphillylilly
    @southphillylilly Před 2 měsíci +349

    Everybody saying, "I'm so over the games. I'm fine the way I am. "If you were truly happy and content with your own life and what it is that makes you who you are, you wouldn't be bitter about shouting, ""I'm over the games."
    It's quite obvious, that you can't hold animosity for an entire gender or the past and still be content and happy.
    I was married once and I've been engaged twice, all three times those men cheated on me. I cooked, I kept a nice house, I gave them what they wanted and took what I wanted in the bedroom, I embraced their families, I had my own money and I'm smart and come from a good family.
    Still, these men cheated I just had to come to understand that what's happening in the world of relationships today isn't for me. I don't blame men, and I don't think it's OK to blame women. There is a lack of loyalty that permeates our culture and we're so amped up over constant stimulation with our phones and technology , that peace doesn't really feel like peace but instead, it feels like boredom to many of us.
    Everybody wants more, and when I figured out, that the majority of men aren't looking for what I am looking for and can't give me what I can give them, that was freedom
    So, I filled my life with beautiful things. I garden and I love my dog and two cats. I live on the beach and I swim every day. I bake, and I have a handful of really good friends and the truth is, I wouldn't dare to ask for more or risk, all that I love and hold dear for a relationship that if I'm going by past experiences, has 100% chance of failing due to deception.
    Even with all that being said, I'm not completely closed off. If it happens again, you can bet that I'll go into it with caution until I'm shown that one is different from all of the others. But I refuse to go on an app, and I don't sit in bars. I simply love my little life and that's worth its weight in gold.

    • @DaisyRenee713
      @DaisyRenee713 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Tooooo long

    • @Danid2023
      @Danid2023 Před 2 měsíci +32

      Wow, this is beautiful. Thank you for sharing your experience/take. I haven’t even begun dating. I am extremely lonely, about to be 25 and a virgin still. I feel very embarrassed and inexperienced. But I would take this over feelings of being used, being disrespected, or being lied to/abandoned. Pretty much in a word, used sums it up. I don’t want anyone to use me, like how we use our phones or use our cars. That’s all people do. We use things. We use people to get what we want. That’s what society is.

    • @louis-borrego
      @louis-borrego Před 2 měsíci +22

      Yes but the problem is you chose these men. It was your choice to stay, be with and grow a relationship with these men. You tolerated certain behavior again and again. It’s not about not being closed off it’s about understanding how things work and taking responsibility for it

    • @sheepnomore8063
      @sheepnomore8063 Před 2 měsíci

      You deserve a lot of respect for holding true to your values. Don't be embarrassed for being "inexperienced" in that department!@@Danid2023

    • @Neresdipity
      @Neresdipity Před 2 měsíci +47

      ​​@@louis-borregoShe didn't choose to be cheated on. Cheating is a choice. Maybe reserve your judgement for the person who not only lies to someone and betrays them but also is potentially putting them at physical risk if they catch somethingwhen theyre cheating, as opposed to the person who isn't a psychic - it's not like she looked into a crystal ball and knew these guys would cheat. Finally, maybe start thinking for yourself- the 'choose better' nonsense has been deconstructed for what it really is: a simplistic phrase thrown out by simple minded people who seem to think that 'choosing' a partner is like buying a gallon of milk.
      You know that there are tons of people- men and women alike - who get unalived by partners they 'chose', right? Would you blame those people for their 'choices'?
      Life is unfair and full of crummy people who won't hesitate to turn their back on someone, even someone who has been great to them. Stop listening to the red pill content and grow up already.

  • @Observatuer033
    @Observatuer033 Před 2 měsíci +426

    he's got a realistic view for a sociopathic world in which we live

    • @Echo-o-o
      @Echo-o-o Před 2 měsíci +23

      Bingo.

    • @thomasalden3524
      @thomasalden3524 Před 2 měsíci +19

      You cannot reasonably talk someone out of something that they have not reasonably talked themselves into.

    • @debraharmon1244
      @debraharmon1244 Před 2 měsíci

      Well l

    • @gol788
      @gol788 Před 2 měsíci +30

      Or hes a sociopath feeding into the sociopathic world

    • @Observatuer033
      @Observatuer033 Před 2 měsíci

      @@gol788yep, a flourishing one

  • @ruebenmpho1909
    @ruebenmpho1909 Před 2 měsíci +38

    Orion is very deeply versed in his field of psychology...I wish we can have him talk in this channel once every week. I could never get enough of his teachings❤

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah, he is cultivating misogyny, you like?

  • @thedeep436
    @thedeep436 Před 2 měsíci +142

    There is a difference between seen relationships as a game and as a dance. In the game there is always a winner and a looser. In a couple's dance both enjoy their roles and the togetherness.

    • @VaronPlateando
      @VaronPlateando Před 2 měsíci +1

      that's due to certain notion of game, seen as competition. in german term 'spiel' for example, there's also loose coupling included (liike 'slack'), i.e. contingencies in choices 'per se' - and to opt for, and take, or not. a anthropological classic take on this is j. huizinga's 'homo ludens'. and there's a difference between utilising a game for whatever hidden agenda, and actually playing it, for the very sake of this.

    • @gregr1154
      @gregr1154 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Only if and when the game ends as he clarified!!! If the game doesn’t end - and this one shouldn’t - there’s no losers

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 Před 2 měsíci

      Exactly

    • @PixelatedSlag
      @PixelatedSlag Před 2 měsíci +5

      Your point is his point. Your reluctancy to call it a game stems from your understanding of what a "game" is. War is a "game" but it is not funny.

    • @thedeep436
      @thedeep436 Před 2 měsíci

      Maybe more on the lines of how John Wineland talks about masculine and feminine czcams.com/video/5sqoCcvE8o0/video.html

  • @MrBrown2.7
    @MrBrown2.7 Před 2 měsíci +61

    Finally people having respect for the work this clinician has produced. Thank you all for being respectful.

  • @matthewnorris203
    @matthewnorris203 Před 2 měsíci +38

    “The lack of courage can come from a lack of hope.”. Thank you for saying that. I’ve been dealing with Hope issues. Most of my life. The times when I’m able to take a lot of courage and risk is when I find something clear to live for or a goal actually want.

  • @56Spookdog
    @56Spookdog Před 2 měsíci +47

    I’m in my late 60s I’m glad I didn’t over complicate life with all this stuff. I’ve had my heart breaks but going through any type of grief you notice people are living life and at that point what ever you’re going through you realize life goes on and so will you.

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Ignorance is bliss.

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@tizodd6 whine on

    • @tizodd6
      @tizodd6 Před 2 měsíci

      @@marguskiis7711 Lol?

    • @CircumlunarFeasibility
      @CircumlunarFeasibility Před 2 měsíci

      @@marguskiis7711yes i suppose its better in countries like yours where poverty makes women desperate and willing to marry you no matter what?

    • @marguskiis7711
      @marguskiis7711 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@CircumlunarFeasibility in Estonia the tradition of working women is old and women are not desperate to marry due their povertry. That not the case. Women are pretty independent in Estonia bc we have experienced wars, Soviet repressions when men were taken away and women had to work themselves a lot.

  • @roland1912
    @roland1912 Před 2 měsíci +223

    For any guys who take umbrage with what Orion is saying... He's not wrong! Young men ARE essentially useless until they decide to put forth effort to get themselves educated, learn some skills, and build a financial foundation to support themselves. You need to have this in place regardless if you want to have a successful relationship or not. These are the first steps required for not only supporting yourself, but for building character and self respect.

    • @shameronstar7220
      @shameronstar7220 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Sounds simple enough but is it though?

    • @Elizabeth_Parsons_327
      @Elizabeth_Parsons_327 Před 2 měsíci +4

      THIS!!!!

    • @timmellis5038
      @timmellis5038 Před 2 měsíci +23

      I know lots and lots and lots of good looking young guys who have nothing and all women go crazy for them. I'm surprised you haven't noticed that. Go to a nightclub with a young good looking guy, your logic will change- fast.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Elizabeth_Parsons_327weird comment u wrote about regretting having kids. How can u say that. I don't understand

    • @firehorse9996
      @firehorse9996 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@timmellis5038 Too bad life isn't a nightclub LOL... You will see these guys lose their value much faster than a woman ever will when they're 35 and still struggling to make sense out of life, set a career path, put down their dumb phones long enough to have a real conversation... We women enjoy having sex with these guys but it's impossible to build a stable life with them. Not even worth trying.

  • @Bluesmoke4200
    @Bluesmoke4200 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I am a woman and I think he is a little too critical of women and lenient towards men but he is clearly very intelligent and thoughtful and has said things that really make me think. Regardless of how I feel about what he says I always find his videos interesting and thought provoking.

  • @carissabooyse8908
    @carissabooyse8908 Před 2 měsíci +12

    woman here. loved both the previous videos. People need to start differentiating between games and "toxic" games. thanks for doing another video with Mark!

  • @mauiskater
    @mauiskater Před 2 měsíci +55

    They are not a therapist…they are a drug dealer. Mind blown 🤯 I feel just like this man. Great insight. I think that those that find this man upsetting aren’t ready to let go of old belief systems. It’s not easy to do these things. Great interview

    • @CMT705
      @CMT705 Před 2 měsíci +3

      That comment changed everything for me on how I now view him. This video was much different than the other two.

  • @jackycheng2079
    @jackycheng2079 Před 2 měsíci +39

    I'm 42 male, never married, not depressed or anything, just wanted to say that I really appreciate the way he was able to articulate complex issues in very simple, concise and understandable language; I tend to agree with most of what he said. Will definitely subscribe his channel.

    • @Neresdipity
      @Neresdipity Před 2 měsíci +1

      Confirmation bias

    • @markjharvey
      @markjharvey Před 2 měsíci +2

      It’s called “learning”

    • @sweeper240
      @sweeper240 Před 2 měsíci

      There is no functional reason and no potential value anyone can bring to the table, that you can't supply better and more efficiently on your own.
      The one thing you'll want to consider deeply is raising a child of your own. It's an irreplaceable experience.

    • @Minnesota_Central
      @Minnesota_Central Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@sweeper240absolutely

    • @E55666
      @E55666 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@sweeper240It's only a pain

  • @RedLeg217
    @RedLeg217 Před měsícem +9

    Calling him the "Darwin of our time" is way too much of a compliment. These insights and theories he presents have been around for a VERY long time. His direct conversation style brings an immediate inviting and approachable sense to complex notions of the common sense we constantly overlook because we nearly never introspect our motivations. I do not like how he assumes that we never rely on deep introspection, but I think he will bring more of use to think deeper about our drives so that we have more informed behavior.

  • @fatimasg1
    @fatimasg1 Před 2 měsíci +71

    I really enjoy this guy, he is a realest. I don’t need my information to be sugarcoated, especially when dealing with men in relationships. I’m a woman, I have no idea what a man is thinking or how they feel about certain things, BUT I WANT TO KNOW LOL, in the simplest, most cut and dry manner possible.

    • @Kels12368
      @Kels12368 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You should check out the videos on this channel titled “getting man you want” It explains men completely

    • @reneelibby4885
      @reneelibby4885 Před 2 měsíci +13

      I would also like a man NOT to assume that he knows what all women think.

    • @fatimasg1
      @fatimasg1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@Kels12368 Thank you, I am definitely going to check that out.

    • @Kels12368
      @Kels12368 Před 2 měsíci

      @@reneelibby4885 in all of his videos, he says there are variants of the rule

    • @MrBrown2.7
      @MrBrown2.7 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@reneelibby4885 lol. He doesn't assume what all women think. This is a defense strategy many women have away from the truth about their behavioral patterns.

  • @11JFK
    @11JFK Před 2 měsíci +32

    Quite possibly the best 65 minutes I’ve ever committed to CZcams. The last 10 minutes provided so many truths, so many memorable quotes, the ability to let go in love is to stop clinging and to do what so many of us struggle to do, “relax”, is the first step. “Run the tape, learn some lessons, iterate!” Thank you both.

  • @tacob2382
    @tacob2382 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I just want to say that as a women I do love listening to you, it's gives me a look from a different perspective, and I hear you say a lot of things my husband does, and although it's been 20 years in our relationship, I am still learning every day how to make it better.

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone8048 Před 2 měsíci +38

    I enjoy Orion's channel.
    I like what Orion said about friends finding it easier to console you when you're down than to be happy for you, supportive of you when you are a success.
    My father was that way. His children and other relatives who did well, who made a success of themselves were subject to his wrath due to his jealousy. The ones that were struggling, the hopeless ones that always needed help he was most comfortable with and he surrounded himself with them.
    The truest friend will be happy for you for your successes and not be jealous or resentful secretly hoping you will fail and have it taken away from you but that also requires that person to have a quality that rises above the average human.
    I also see this in people who laugh when someone does something stupid and gets hurt or has something else bad happen to them due to an event.
    The average person doesn't seem to like it when they perceive someone else as doing better than they are.

    • @justmyopinion9883
      @justmyopinion9883 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well said. Thank you. I’ve had friends who liked me when I was down, but were jealous when I was doing well.
      It’s painful when that happens.

    • @wesb.8153
      @wesb.8153 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Hey that's my dad hates seeing his kids make any sort of progress in life

  • @jamesthomas6681
    @jamesthomas6681 Před 2 měsíci +17

    Dr. Taraban has a gift of making intellectually deep topics palatable for the general public. This is a very rare combination of qualities; intellectualism, empathy, and communication skills. I personally don't think Dr. Taraban is sharing or discovering anything new; as he shared, the topics he discusses have been discussed by philosophers, psychologists, and sociologists since the 18th century... for example, his discussion about people not knowing what contributes to their conscious interpretation of a thing is discussed at length by Carl Jung's views on the subconscious.... Dr. Taraban's contribution is combining them in a way that benefits the modern man and woman. bravo. Fantastic work from you all

    • @liabw05
      @liabw05 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Really?! I found him impossible to follow. But this may be because I’m reading comments as I’m listening 😂. He just feels sooo heady

    • @sheri023
      @sheri023 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@liabw05 yeah, really, in his head. I don't need to hear this stuff, i've lived it already.

    • @jamesthomas6681
      @jamesthomas6681 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@liabw05 yeah this is the difference between the scholar and the explorer. We need both though. To discover where no one has gone before but to also understand where we’ve gone. He’s more on explaining why we feel what we feel which not many people are aware of or even think about

  • @bugsquashed5509
    @bugsquashed5509 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This might sound bad but I’ll be truthful. I was a damaged/traumatized young lady but attractive and had many “house” skills (cooking, cleaning, homemaking, child care, etc) and when my husband met me as a young man, I found out many years later, that he told himself that he could save me. It was a white knight type of thing, for him, to come in and save this woman…. And he did. He helped me through my family trauma, my rape trauma, all of it. Now I’m his wife, mother of his children, and we’ve been together 18 years and will be together until one of us passes. The strategy of saving the bird with a broken wing worked out for him and I 🙏

  • @dantwomey
    @dantwomey Před 2 měsíci +15

    That's the interesting compromise. How to carefully tell people the truth without upsetting them.

    • @terraflow__bryanburdo4547
      @terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Před 2 měsíci +3

      At least not too much. I've been studying this stuff over three decades and have similar conclusions but he is very concise and effective in communicating. I'm just a Cro Magnon😂

  • @mariaboux9084
    @mariaboux9084 Před 2 měsíci +29

    As a women I feel so inspired and intrigued from what his talks. It gets better every time. It's like I always knew this deep but didn't have the words to say it.please continue your spreading, can't wait to read your book

  • @VaselaBella
    @VaselaBella Před 2 měsíci +17

    He is so incredibly well spoken and brilliant. I absolutely love his interviews!!!

  • @kathrynharmerfox1865
    @kathrynharmerfox1865 Před 2 měsíci +4

    love the practical, observational, scientific bent of this man's viewpoint.

  • @tiathomas1098
    @tiathomas1098 Před měsícem +6

    I just wanna say cheating is traumatic, and cheating in marriage is traumatic and soul crushing. So many people dont want to admit how bad it really messes with you, instead they dont take the time to heal, self reflect, and heal that damage. Instead, they run to the next person available

  • @twenty4seven_
    @twenty4seven_ Před 2 měsíci +6

    Orion says things people don't want, but need to hear. It's a reality we live in, if we like it or not.

  • @FdHer2TheSharks
    @FdHer2TheSharks Před 2 měsíci +11

    These are absolutely amazing talks. He’s amazing. I’m getting married this September and everytime I listen I find myself jotting down some notes I want to say for my vows.
    LEGEND. Keep him coming back Mark!!!!

  • @patriciasiarra1032
    @patriciasiarra1032 Před 2 měsíci +18

    ‘You just have to be real careful with your thoughts’ 💯🙌 can’t wait for your next talk ! Brilliant mind 👏

  • @Madeline-zz6xj
    @Madeline-zz6xj Před 2 měsíci +10

    So glad you did another interview with him. He's very insightful.

  • @amandajofisk85
    @amandajofisk85 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I’ve loved the two previous talks, can’t wait to hear this one.

  • @emgee691
    @emgee691 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I think you've nailed all of this pretty darn well! What we call our EMOTIONS are very very PRIMAL.
    which is why they are so important.
    Feeling was our very first basic recognition of SELF. It begins while we're still in the womb. Before we could think or speak or imagine or do or be anything, we began to FEEL. Where do we actually feel? In our gut, around our abdomen. In the exact place was our umbilical cord in the womb. Primal. Survival.
    Our emotions are like a mixture of radar and sonar, protector, guide and advisor. All in one. Survive and thrive. So powerful. Now think about what might happen to us within ourselves, in our lives, when our abilities, our capacities to FEEL, get degraded and numbed...

  • @smirkinatu5512
    @smirkinatu5512 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video. Peace and prosperity to you and yours in future.

  • @pjviitas
    @pjviitas Před 2 měsíci +8

    Love this guy.....thanks for taking the time and sharing

  • @CowgirlKim
    @CowgirlKim Před 2 měsíci +134

    59 yo woman, 3 failed marriages, last one extremely abusive from addiction which ended fatally and leaving me alone with cptsd. I’ve been out of the dating scene for well over 30 years and from what I have seen, he speaks unfortunate truths. I believe our society has moved away from traditional marital norms. Games or not, with what he describes, convinces me to withdraw and embrace the Celtic view of hagitude! ✌️out!

    • @southphillylilly
      @southphillylilly Před 2 měsíci +11

      It's probably not fair to put your CPTSD on one marriage. I'm sure, you felt to get something as a child, that led to three failed marriages. I guess you have CPTSD from a lifetime.

    • @reneelibby4885
      @reneelibby4885 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I'm very curious- what isn the Celtic view of hagitude?

    • @CowgirlKim
      @CowgirlKim Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@southphillylilly oh no, not hanging it all on one marriage, however it was for 25 years. How the hell do you think I walked that journey? From childhood and a short military service. I am a product of addiction, placed in parental roles at 6yo, on & on & on. Never an addict myself but caught in a subconscious role of rescue and saving, enabling. I could tell a good tale on this channel but poor Mark would be monetized! 🤣

    • @CowgirlKim
      @CowgirlKim Před 2 měsíci

      @@reneelibby4885 👋 Embracing and learning to be at peace with being alone. I am blessed with 40+ acres in Colorado and a small herd of dairy goats. My state of hagitude is loving my land, my animals, my gardens, my views, rocks, trees, ect. Being. There are CZcams videos on the subject, believe it or not 🤣 enjoy!

    • @catherinepraus8635
      @catherinepraus8635 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@southphillylillyI know I did

  • @Johnwick-07
    @Johnwick-07 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Orion is speaking honestly and factually because he genuinely wants to help people. People that are hateful towards the information that he’s sharing are still dealing with pain in their life. It’s very difficult to come out of the lies that we’re told to us and some people just need time to help. Thank for offering help to the people that are suffering!

  • @JustHang
    @JustHang Před 2 měsíci +6

    I love these kinds of videos please continue to move forward in this direction!

  • @aliksander4085
    @aliksander4085 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The first two parts were fascinating, I was reeeally looking forward for this one

  • @hardcyd3r
    @hardcyd3r Před 2 měsíci +10

    This is so fascinating! ❤️ Good video to sip my morning coffee to and chill out. He explains his concepts in very illustrative ways.

  • @jordanbaker79
    @jordanbaker79 Před 2 měsíci +8

    I really enjoy Orion’s views and how he frames things. Very interesting and relatable. Refreshingly honest. I hope you keep doing these interviews with him. 💫

  • @SuperDranger
    @SuperDranger Před 2 měsíci +29

    The goat is back!!!

  • @kayja2949
    @kayja2949 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Thank you, Mark and Orian, for a very thought-provoking interview.

  • @HarpreetKaur-yn1wm
    @HarpreetKaur-yn1wm Před 2 měsíci +9

    Informative stuff
    We, the people of the world, need more of him on your channel.
    Thank you.

  • @brendaleevillarreal9851
    @brendaleevillarreal9851 Před 2 měsíci +33

    i started following Orion Taraban after the last interview SWU did with him. I watch him daily now. I totally agree with Dr. O,

    • @AnaFernandez-jp5uh
      @AnaFernandez-jp5uh Před 2 měsíci +5

      I'm glad Orion is helpful to you. I have a problem with him interrupting Mark in the middle of his questions. Mark held his own and asked him to wait until he was finished asking his questions. I neve interupt a client. It's important to let them know you are listening to them.

    • @TheBroSplit
      @TheBroSplit Před 2 měsíci

      Inturrupting can also mean you are exicted to add to the conversation. Notice he didn't freak out when told , he appologized@@AnaFernandez-jp5uh

  • @Moonflower3118
    @Moonflower3118 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Very informative,enjoyed the interview. I only wish I had listened and studied his work decades ago.

  • @aylaxypt
    @aylaxypt Před 2 měsíci +42

    I'm going to start following him. I'm a 32yr old woman, and everything he's saying is just intelligent and true. I feel like if this offends you, that's a you problem.

    • @sirkyoj1
      @sirkyoj1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I agree. Wish I had these insights a long time ago.

    • @matten_zero
      @matten_zero Před 2 měsíci

      I'm curious, many people last video were super negative. Why do you think it changed so much this time around. A comment like yours was so rare in the last vid. Curious to hear your thoughts on this

    • @booshank2327
      @booshank2327 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Go be pretend to be happy in your cold and cynical relationships. Yay.

  • @bobbrian1641
    @bobbrian1641 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Genius man. I could listen to him talk all day.

  • @user-en3iq8yw9r
    @user-en3iq8yw9r Před 2 měsíci +7

    Good one Mark. Felt like a therapy session. Especially the second half of this one. Good questions. You guys were just getting warmed up.

  • @natalierizzo1
    @natalierizzo1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love these chats! Hope you do more that are similar!

  • @12thjewel
    @12thjewel Před 2 měsíci +3

    43 year old woman here, been following Orion a year. I've never been married and through listening to Orion I now have a good idea why. I have grown into a better woman / partner by observing and trying his strategies / suggestions. I love how he breaks down facts!

  • @ArditaDesku
    @ArditaDesku Před 2 měsíci +6

    Hi mark i admire your work so much i hope you will never stop doing such awsome interviews love love it

  • @marchanson711
    @marchanson711 Před 2 měsíci +29

    Orion is so humble, and his demeanor, voice tone and pitch, and sincere eyes put a soothing balm on the content that he produces. The content that you discussed today and on the previous Orion episodes are grounded in truth, and the truth will always initially induce cognitive dissonance and emotional responses deemed negative. It takes time to process the emotions when we become aware of truth, and those viewers who reacted with extreme vehemence will come around days or weeks later as they realize the wisdom that was given is gospel truth. What makes Orion's content work for the greater good is his delivery method, comportment, demeanor, authenticity, and aademic competency. On another note, Orion's current haircut and clean shaven face somehow adds to his professionalism. Take note of this; nota bene. Peace.

    • @franziskani
      @franziskani Před 2 měsíci +5

      That man is certainly NOT humble. Put's his NLP training to good use. Likely good in manipulating people. He noticed the backlash to the last interview on THIS channel, so he came back to tone it down. Those books are not going to sell themselves !

    • @dumfriesspearhead7398
      @dumfriesspearhead7398 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@franziskaniSpot on.

    • @josie3974
      @josie3974 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, I noticed his professional appearance. I respect his respect for the audience.

  • @jenniferholland3421
    @jenniferholland3421 Před měsícem +1

    I loved your interview so much that I am watching this second one now. I completely agree with and appreciate everything that you said in both interviews. Your perception of relationships is very deep and very candid. People who can’t handle the truth and look in the mirror will disagree out of denial. Please continue doing interviews and I will continue to support you! 💞

  • @chasefro1724
    @chasefro1724 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Keep it coming really enjoy the videos with Orion

  • @mustecic
    @mustecic Před 2 měsíci +3

    WOW, great interview! Especially thanks to heart breaking part!

  • @eva-nr2bs
    @eva-nr2bs Před 2 měsíci +3

    I love and support Orion Taraban help, information and education!!!

  • @cvuadvisorsinc.3548
    @cvuadvisorsinc.3548 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Hi Mark! I love Orion's method and insight. As a woman who has spent many years on the planet and most of my adult years have been spent in observation rather than engaging in intimate relationships. My worth and my confidence has allowed me freedom to grow into an understanding of who I truly am and how I want to love and be loved. Orion has an incredible honesty that many people may not comprehend. I believe too many men and women would rather live in denial and rapid gratification. Suffering comes from insecurity and moving too quickly and finding flaws later for fear that there is something to be lost. I love having time and discernment to observe whether a man is worthy of me and me of him. Once women allow more of this, there will be less emphasis on what has driven the most recent decade of superficial distractions. Seduction is in the mind and beauty is in the self awareness of femininity and sensuality. simple facts. anyone that does not agree with Orion is not deeply aware of themselves

  • @RMutt-fj1sz
    @RMutt-fj1sz Před 18 dny +1

    i really needed to hear the heartbreak portion. thank you for your knowledge and empathy Orion.

  • @beastinshow2362
    @beastinshow2362 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Very happy to have found Orion through Soft White Underbelly, loved his previous talk here and I've subbed to his psyhacks yt chan since. His daily uploads are usually great.
    I love how he refuses to sugar coat anything, and his input should be valued by both genders 'playing the game', as we (almost) all are, practically.
    Hope to see him back here many times in the future. Thank you for sharing your enlightened view of things, Orion :)

    • @franziskani
      @franziskani Před 2 měsíci +3

      To quote this guy (from memory and from his short vids on his channel - psychacks): I am so good in assessing people that I can chose a woman that does not even speak English. I have my friends to talk to, I do not need her for that. (He also says in that context that he selects for kindness, level temperament etc.. Intelligence and education was not among the traints - obviously. Which is a glorified version of: She has to by much younger than me, look good and I only want to fuck her (and maybe she can do things for me for free). Which is his advice for women if they are interested in a guy (in another video) To prove him how they make his life easier. And of course to f**k him real good (prefereably giving him the impression that she has not done those things with any other men).

  • @hopemarie3054
    @hopemarie3054 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I’m a women and agree with his last interview became a fan and excited he is back again

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ur gonna be ready for marriage. Great

    • @Thomas-qi9ix
      @Thomas-qi9ix Před 2 měsíci +3

      Please expose other women in your life to Orions work.

    • @hopemarie3054
      @hopemarie3054 Před 2 měsíci

      @@KD400_ I got married at 21.. 24 years later still married

    • @hopemarie3054
      @hopemarie3054 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Thomas-qi9ix They don’t listen “modern women”

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Před 2 měsíci

      @@hopemarie3054 oh nice even better

  • @OrnellaRodriguez
    @OrnellaRodriguez Před 11 dny

    This is the best I´ve heard for long long time!!

  • @shawmanlove
    @shawmanlove Před měsícem +1

    Agreed 100%! Love his Real Talk! Cuts to the chase and helps us all understand the reality of things. He rips back the curtain so we can see.
    Thank you both, Mark!
    ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @djrodionoff4718
    @djrodionoff4718 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Really appreciate his insight! Would love more👍

  • @cheapskatepanic
    @cheapskatepanic Před 2 měsíci +4

    I absolutely love what you so. Thank you so much for the content and for putting yourself out there to help people. Dont listen to any youtubers who are trying to use you for views. Thats all it is. You know the truth and who you are❤❤❤❤

  • @evil_applejuice674
    @evil_applejuice674 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Having listened to all three of these talks, I think this one is the most digestable and best so far. Although I can handle vulgarity and blunt language, i feel that it is jarring juxtaposed with such intellegent thought. It also limited my interest/ability to share with several others in my life who are put off by it, but benefited from the deeper conversations I had with them after I absorbed the videos and reflected the ideas to them. Keep up the thorough exploration of love and the game therein!

  • @Esther-gv5cn
    @Esther-gv5cn Před měsícem +1

    I loved the conversation. It is reality. Men and women, we are so different. Thank you so much for having this guest, I will definitely subscribe to his channel. I also love Soft White Underbelly.

  • @amywalton4201
    @amywalton4201 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Thankyou mark great interview. Orion thank you . I will be looking for more of your stuff.❤️👏🏼

    • @Thomas-qi9ix
      @Thomas-qi9ix Před 2 měsíci

      Yes! And please share widely with the WOMEN in your life. Orion is ACCURATELY expressing how men respond and think about women.

  • @pwilliams4073
    @pwilliams4073 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Loving these videos with Dr T Thank You Mark , I just started dating and these videos have been of unmeasurable assistance to me .. Very Grateful to you both .

  • @VickyFlint
    @VickyFlint Před 2 měsíci +2

    Absolutely amazing talk Mark & Orion

  • @avx4281
    @avx4281 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great interview, very insightful. Orion has great knowledge.

  • @kimmieduff
    @kimmieduff Před 2 měsíci +3

    More Orion content please. He is a wealth of knowledge.

  • @BeingBetter
    @BeingBetter Před 2 měsíci +7

    Thanks for having Orion back on, Mark!

  • @user-ws7up7wn7t
    @user-ws7up7wn7t Před 2 měsíci +2

    I could listen to him speak all day. Love this content!

  • @OfficialDarkSoulMusic
    @OfficialDarkSoulMusic Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you Orion. Your wisdom and advice is helping me a lot in my life right now

  • @wendyfarnsworth6333
    @wendyfarnsworth6333 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Fascinating discussion. Love it.

  • @sindreandersen9114
    @sindreandersen9114 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thank you, Mark and Orion.

  • @marialuizadeoliveira4784
    @marialuizadeoliveira4784 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Oh well, I have to say that this was a much better talk than the first one. I am very thankful for what Orion said towards the very end of the show. I loved the explanation of letting someone go with love. Which is so hard to do but so necessary to move on.

  • @KelseyMarieReina
    @KelseyMarieReina Před 19 dny +1

    I'm glad I watched this follow up video. It cleared up a lot for me.

  • @zu0756
    @zu0756 Před 2 měsíci +22

    This guy truely changed my life! He touches upon so many aspects of life.. how to succeed, deal with people, life and emotions and live a good life!
    Please try to remove your prejudices and just listen critically to what he is SAYING, not how you interpret it nor how it makes you feel
    Wish you all the best

  • @shiningstar5919
    @shiningstar5919 Před 2 měsíci +61

    Well, I'm a 56 year old woman, and I totally resonate with this man. I am about half way in, and this one is much more gentle, as I see it, because it feels like he needs to help those angered by this greater innerstanding of the dance between men and women. The last one was bang on as I see it. He is giving the simple truth on where consciousness stands in today's dating life. There's no question he knows what he's talking about, with the experience he has of his clients, which I'm sure, is many. It's just not easy to see that this is where things are at in our world, between men and women. Our world is in a sad and sorry state. It's time to be the love we wish to be in the world, because we are love, each and everyone of us. Cheers

  • @Rodan33
    @Rodan33 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome! Cant wait to listen in on this one

  • @majametelko3819
    @majametelko3819 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love his work... His insight and view on relationships are so on point! I agree with him 100%

  • @isisscott2385
    @isisscott2385 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Yesss . Please keep him coming on !!!!

  • @marinalauren4734
    @marinalauren4734 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I really appreciated the comment about understanding and valuing everyones thoughts and justifying both sides. It's refreshing that although i don't agree with all of his opinions, he doesn't state everything as a fact without question and doesn't shove ideas down your throat. He makes you think and want to understand where his ideas on both side of the argument is coming from. He isn't abrasive and doesn't tell you you're stupid for thinking something. He comes across in an inquisitive way that I can appreciate. If more people could have political conversations this way where it doesn't put the other person on defense, the world would be better off.

  • @mr.t993
    @mr.t993 Před měsícem +1

    Brilliant Man. Decades ahead of this time.
    This is the beginning of a new era of understanding between human interactions.

  • @dawncopley5671
    @dawncopley5671 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank Gd for Orion as he answers the questions I’ve asked so many men, but have never gotten an answer! Hallelujah! Seems to be honest as possible and even if uncomfortable, as opening any Pandora’s box can be, it is to me, at least, “ Oh thank you for communicating the male brain’s inner workings! I finally, after so many years, am receiving answers to a plethora of questions that men either didn’t want to explain or possibly could not explain? Kudos to you! Very grateful! 🌅

  • @dawnfmEnthusiast
    @dawnfmEnthusiast Před 2 měsíci +6

    Yes!! Another Orion interview 💯💯💯

  • @nelinkaaaaa
    @nelinkaaaaa Před 2 měsíci +3

    Where is The part 2?? :) Great talk to both of you, hope to hear a bit more from Orion on the channel when the book comes out !

  • @noemiburns6470
    @noemiburns6470 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’ve watched his last two SWU vids a few times, so glad Mark decided to interview Orion again♥️

  • @thetranquilview5600
    @thetranquilview5600 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Incredibly Interesting talk - Thankyou

  • @alexkamchugov2880
    @alexkamchugov2880 Před 2 měsíci +5

    As a pharmaceutical drug rep who has been working in major depressive disorder field for over 6 years, & being able to speak to many psychiatrists on a personal level about depression.... - I have nothing but outmost gratitude & appreciation for the work that Orion is doing. In my subjective opinion - his advice is SO spot-on & his delivery cadence & tonality - absolutely wonderful. Definitely feel the empathy he has for his patients. There's a saying "Be the kind of adult - you needed as a friend when You were a teenager"... - to me, - he fits this definition perfectly.
    With Gratitude....

  • @mattsnead7523
    @mattsnead7523 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thank you .. needed this 💯

  • @Esther-gv5cn
    @Esther-gv5cn Před měsícem +1

    Orion's honesty and insight is amazing. Everything he is saying is absolutely true.

  • @jasminezhou256
    @jasminezhou256 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wish people well. WOAH, that is so powerful and liberating for me right now as I am going through a tough time in my relationship to a point I want to let go but can't let go of my hurtful feelings.

  • @danielosmon
    @danielosmon Před 2 měsíci +4

    I couldn't agree more with his angle on heartbreak and the attachment theory. Genuinely wishing someone the best on their journey as hard as it is, really is the answer based on my experiences

  • @markoembarko9045
    @markoembarko9045 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you for a great conversation! Many of your points are valid, eye opening, and thought provoking.

  • @newbeartrucks4422
    @newbeartrucks4422 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for your time and for sharing