The Columbia 400
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2023
- Mark does the walk around on the Columbia 400 and then takes it up for a trip around the pattern. It was hot. Two of our GoPro cameras refused to work under such conditions and just quit on us. We're in negotiations with the GoPro Union, in hopes of getting them back to work soon.
I always chuckle when your phone rings. Too funny.
It's not a Skywagon video without one... And we got TWO this video!
Sorry. I literally always forget.
Great video! The new intro is neat.
It’d be interesting if you did a video about your company, how it all works. I really enjoy your channel!
Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment, Reuben! We try to mix it up, and enjoyed making that intro. Mark and I will talk about a video of Skywagons. - Don the Camera Guy.
As stated earlier, no FADEC for the Cirrus as it has a “cam” that throttle and prop are controlled through with the throttle movement. Basically the prop has two adjustments throughout the throw of the throttle. Love the videos, I always walk away smarter because of them.
Yes. This guy has a good breakdown of how it works: czcams.com/video/9nzwhg6obM8/video.html
Thanks for the clarification.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks for the outstanding videos, and I always love that area of Northern California (in laws are from KGOO).
its so good a woman could drive it!!😘
@@AlanMydland-fq2vs "A sexist would say!" - borrowed from The Greg Gutfield Show. Sorry, I couldn't resist. 🤣
I've always wanted to know more about the Lancair. You do such a great job introducing us to new and interesting aircraft. Perfect level of detail, impressive level of knowledge, and always a pleasure to go for quick trip around the pattern with you. I'm so glad I found this channel.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for showing us the Columbia Mr. Mark and Mr. Don. Looks like a lot of fun!
The external view is really nice actually. Thats one slippery machine!
First impression: She seems to be a big plane! Very good looking, love the interior (I'm a sucker for wood bits), from my view it looked very well laid out and you seemed to conquer. Maybe they could paint a chute hatch on the top and sell more. :^D
Very cool plane and video edit. Thanks for the demo
Thanks for watching!
Nice. After watching so many of your videos I had to load up Placerville on X-Plane and do some pattern work. They have it modeled well and so sight picture was just what was in my brain.
That is pretty cool. Technology has come a long way!
One interesting difference between this plane and the Cirrus is that the Cirrus is not technically a gull-wing door. It has what's sometimes called a "butterfly door" like a McLaren or certain other sports cars -- the hinges are roughly at either end of the A pillar. So, the doors open both up *and* forward. The nice thing about the Cirrus design is if they were to come unlatched in flight, they will be held mostly closed by the slipstream. On the Lancair/Cessna doors, if they open in flight, the door will fly open and can be ripped completely off of the airframe. This has actually happened. The Cirrus door will end up open maybe an inch because there's a balance point between the Bernoulli effect trying to pull the door open and the slipstream pressure holding it closed, so it won't open fully, but you also can't re-close it in flight. It's not dangerous except as a distraction. It's fortunate that the Cirrus door is a bit more failsafe, because the G2 through 2015 G5 door latches really kinda suck and if they're out of adjustment they are hard to latch properly. The newer models have a much better positive latch.
Regarding interior space -- as you said, the cabin is a bit smaller diameter in the Lancair/Cessna compared to the Cirrus, but the big difference is in legroom. The Lancair has much less legroom in the rear. I tried out a TTx and when I set the seat up comfortably for myself as a pilot, there wasn't enough room to sit behind. In the Cirrus, I can sit comfortably in the back even if the front seat is adjusted properly for me.
One other little tidbit -- others have mentioned that the Cirrus is not FADEC (I wish it were!). It's also not single-lever. There's a power lever, which controls throttle and has a cam mechanism for the prop pitch. And then there's a separate conventional mixture control. Interesting note: on the SR-22T, they got rid of the cam and the constant-speed prop is simply set to 2500 RPM. The naturally aspirated models still have the cam.
Thanks you for this information. It was great.
I always enjoy your videos Mark - very informative and well presented and professional even with the gopro failures!
Thank you.
🤯Mind blown with your level of knowledge on planes! Any kind it would seem
Thank you Mark! What a nice ride!
Glad you enjoyed it
YES! I love this plane! The precursor to the Cessna TTX. What a machine.
Edit: Great video!
Thanks, Sam! Glad you liked it! - Don the Camera Guy.
An gorgeous powerful cruiser!. Years ago there was a teal Lancair IVP down here in New Zealand. I think it went to the US somewhere... The epitomy of fast sleek speed machines for zooming in flight levels! 😍
You could go up and down New Zealand in a few hours in one, same as England.
I love the Lancair Columbia. I missed my chance to demo one. I did fly a Cirrus and a Lancair Legacy.
Love the new intro music. Great editing!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have some left seat time about 30hr in the Cessna 400 ttx. Amazing plane and best i can remember a slightly better performance than the SR22t and it fells better cause it’s a little heavier i think.
Great vid, always bust out laughing when your phone rings because you always have that mental delay like your hoping it’s someone else’s phone and then you realize it’s yours😀😂.
It's so hot even the whiskey compass wanted to take a dive. What a wonderful plane: some skill required, as it should be.
Hmmmm You saw that. The compass. ha
Lancair started producing the kit version again after Cessna stopped manufacturing the Cessna Corvalis TTX. They call it a Mako but has a retractable nose wheel.
Is there a production number somewhere on the plane? I remember working at Lancair and we got a bonus for finishing plane number 100 before a deadline. As I recall the parachute was tested, it deployed and worked but the cable didn't cut and release afterwards resulting in a crash. I remember the fuselage was designed and tested to survive a 90 mph nosedive into the ground. The plane people took out for test flights was cursed, people testing before a purchase have taken out a few fuel trucks and clipped buildings with the wings while taxiing. The test pilot would fly to Seattle once or twice a month and we could order Krispy Kream doughnuts that arrived still fresh. So many memories, good times.
The Serial number is 41089 if that helps.
Tell Mr. Don, excellent editing for the intro and love the classic Mark phone ring. You could tell it was going to be a good video by that. Also Cirrus wishes they had actual Fadec in their planes, might keep the owners from burning up jugs every 600 hours
Thanks for the compliment, @snoskier10392! - Don the Camera Guy
Enjoyed the intro!
Several hours of work for 1 minute of video. I'm very glad you liked it! - Don the Camera Guy.
I ferried a couple of these across the Atlantic back in the day. Probably the best piston single ever made. Almost criminal that Cessna stopped making it.
I delivered one from Arkansas, USA to Aarhus in Denmark. I was SO sad handing over the keys to the new owner. I REALLY wished it had been my aircraft and that I could have kept it. N58VG. Wonder where it is now? :)
ive been waiting for this one..
One would think that as prone as GoPros are to overheating, they would do something about that. Very nice airplane. Sad that Cessna stopped producing them, although I understand their thinking. BTW, the shots taken by your belly cam were amazing! Thanks, Mark, for these videos.
My thoughts exactly
I think I want this aircraft! One check out the Cirrus SR22, G2 and G3. But I don’t think I want the responsibility for a parachute. This seems like a great alternative. Thanks for this video!
Totally agree
And the Van’s RV-10 has gull wing doors!😀
Nice aeroplane, I'd forgotten about them, shame that the cowlings were such a chore. The BP is a last resort (catastrophic failure) isn't it, in some instances it's safer to land the thing. Shame Cessna lost out.
I do enjoy this format Mark, allows me to enjoy a large range of aircraft and learn about them😊👍💜
Cessna is a company owned by an accounting firm. Wait until manufacturers start building planes under the new MOSAIC LSA rules. Cessna and Piper are going to be caught sleeping behind the yoke.
9 liter engine twin turbo, sick
Great video. That airport is a bit scary tho (coming from a Florida pilot).
It's not as bad as it looks.
Nice clean plane.
Nice plane. Looks fast just sitting on the ground. Nice 30s something car in the background.
The old and the new. 1930 Model A Ford.
I like the underbody 360 degree cam footage. More of that please kind sir! 💯
We like it too! We finally found a mount that can hold up to the pressure and will continue where we can. We just did a Mooney Bravo, but there was nothing sticking out where we could mount it except the tail ring tie down. Not a great shot, but the best we could do. That video will be out shortly. - Don the Camera Guy.
Just learned this is a one piece wing (like a Mooney) so very strong. It's also got the fuel in between the two carbon spars (like a diamond) so very safe and post crash fire resistant. It's also a side stick vs a side yoke (cirrus) and pushrods (like a Mooney) vs sloppy cables (cirrus)
Liked the new intro
Hi praise! Glad you liked it! - Don the Camera Guy.
Switch to DJI Osmo Action 3 for video - I switched both of my in cockpit cameras to Action 3 and no longer have over heating issues. Keep the go pros for exterior shots.
I was going to add maybe a drink cooler with a computer fan and some PVC pipe. could be made discreet as even a little can make a difference ?
@GrummanCheetahPilot I'll look into them. I have an original Osmo Action and don't like the color profile. I can correct it, but it never seems 100% right. How is the Action 3's color? - Don the Camera Guy
@@skywagonuniversity5023 at Don I was having trouble with my sony action cam.... then I found that it was in underwater mode ?
Thanks for the tip, Max! I just checked and our settings are correct ... not on an underwater mode. At 93 degrees outside, the cabin gets really hot and there isn't much airflow over the camera. They just overheat under those conditions. We'll find a solution! - Don the Camera Guy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Google says some models have an issue that is fixed with firmware update ?
Everything but the useful load with full fuel is impressive.
Watch every vid of yours. You do a great job. I would love it if you marked the lift off in ft for each plane. My regular field is 2k ft and it would be nice to know how tight it is for each plane you review.
I'll see what we can do. That runway is 3900 Feet long.
Hi Mark, I really enjoy the style and content of your videos. Often, I wonder how much the aircraft costs. I know these are not advertisements, but perhaps the price range of the aircraft could be shown in text associated with the video so that information is available. Keep it up. Best wishes, Mike
Hi Mike! We talked about saying what the plane costs and actually mentioned it in a few videos, but decided we don't want these videos to come across as sales videos. You can always navigate to www.skywagons.com to view the aircraft specs and prices. Thanks for watching!
I'd watch more but My iPhone overheated 😂😂😂😂😂 ty for the great video as always my friend 🇺🇸✈️👮🏻♂️
All those folks that say they’d never buy an experimental aircraft and here’s just that, an experimental that became certified. Lance Niebauer ( hope I spelled that right) knew what he was doing.
Very interesting......you mentioned you were going to show us the speed brake.......
I forgot
Cirrus does not have FADEC, just the throttle and prop are tied together.
Thanks. I've not been around many Cirrii
Thanks for watching? Thanks for putting it together Mark! Great as usual. Love the phone.. it's the next youtube vid in the pipeline lol
The phone is not deliberate. I literally forget. What reminds me to turn it off is that fact that it rings on camera..................
It's great that way. Part of the atmosphere we are there. You could even answer it one vid lol. Another customer who's looking to sell thier plane.. maybe another unicorn..
Believe it or not, the Cirrus is not FADEC, all manual linkages that do the mixing of throttle and prop. That means all ‘cruise’ settings put you at a very loud 2500rpm. Airplanes like the Diamond with a diesel will be FADEC
Thanks for the info!
Paint it White? Your dohproh cammera? Keep 'em in a chilly-bin until usage? At least we have your matchless mellifluous narration!
@av8bvma513, we're simply going to find better cameras. Cheaper than a new paint job! - Don the Camera Guy.
Excellent word......mellifluous. Thanks.
Great video as usual… I hate it when go pro cameras overheat.. can u tell me what camera is used under the plane?
Glad you liked the video! We're using a GoPro Max on a clamp style mount. Looking for replacement cameras for the interior GoPro's. We had access to this aircraft for three attempts, but we don't want to lose shots due to equipment failures. - Don the Camera Guy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Well Don, you have def. stepped it up a notch on video editing. I appreciate the information! I want to get one for my plane :)
Thank you, Ma'am!
How do you arrange to feature and fly all the different makes and models? Must be fun. I’ve only flown about 35 different makes of planes, in 55 years.
I sell planes, a lot of them. When they come here, I get to review them, plus friends and other locals bring me them.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Ah ha. I figured it may be that. I have a broker frown, who wants me to be his Florida rep. Unsure if I want to work🥴. It could be fun demoing and facilitating sales. I Had a 40 year major airline career. Retired 5 years ago at 65. Had a Cherokee 6-260 for 4 years, sold it for 2x!
I now have a 1947 straight 35 Bonanza. 819th Bonanza built, in primo condition 👍🏻.
I owned N2515B. Best aircraft ever.
About 8 years ago, I wanted one of these and was looking to purchase an aircraft. Just looking for the right one for me.
I researched the hell out of this aircraft. At the time, I seen 100's of those for sale. THAT hit me with a huge red flag. I even talk to 2 different
gentleman that each of them owned. Both told me the same thing. I research more and came to the same conclusion as the owner I talked to.
This thing is a gas hog.
No wonder I seen a lot of them for sale. I didn't buy one.
Settled on a Rockwell Commander 114. Precious owner upgraded the panel to glass.
A little slower, but not by much.
it's a new intro style!
12:45 "if you can read this sticker, turn me over"
Yes true. Thought we would try a new intro. That was two hours of editing though.
I would like to to know about the fuel burn per hour and range of this aircraft with reserves if possible.
I watched the videos many times but didn’t notice this info. Perhaps you could do a 2.0 video
These hold 100 Gallons and the engine is a twin turbo IO-550 Continental. It burns about 18 gallons an hour and does about 180 Kts at 15000 feet. Big fast and comfortable. half the fuel burn and half the speed and you have a 172, so this is about the fuel burn of a 172 from A to B. Maybe a gallon more.
Mark, How zit? Thanks for the video. Help me please. Tell me if you know the original cost of the 400 from Lance Neibauer? I thought it was $359 k. Good luck. I'll look at the logbooks next. Fraternally,
Mark. I'm not sure what a kit used to cost. This one was factory built.
...Cirrus doesn't have FADEC...just a mechanical interlink between throttle lever and prop lever.
Thanks.
TY for the vods you do on all the different makes/models. I'm curious as to why you were using the climate control on the Columbia during the flight? Is it heat only or were you affraid the fan noise would be too loud for the video?
The heat was from the sun on the window mounted cameras. I was not too hot.
Hello from Sydney Australia.
I'd also like to know the engine accessory differences between throttle, mixture, prop (carburettor feed) engine and single T handle (obviously has a computer management system).
🌏🇭🇲
It's not really Fadec, it's a linked system.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I apologize for my phrasing of the question to you, sir.🌏🇭🇲
Nice plane. Looked like a joy to fly.
Yes indeed!
At the end of the video, what type of old car was in the background?
It's a 1930 Model A Ford. There is a video on this channel about it.
Keep these up….only reason I look at u tube
Wow! You're putting a lot of pressure on us! - Don the Camera Guy!
OK, will do. Thanks.
beautiful and powerful, what a girl! if you ask me, looks better than the cirrus and very comfortable interior :)
I totally agree!
Is it ~weird getting used to that stick on the side?
It actually is very intuitive. It feels right very soon. I'm not left handed either.
I don’t get it . Why not install a parachute? And compete with the Cirrus?
The parachute is very complex. It has four cables under the gelcoat that rip out so that the plane can hang from the spars flat after the rocket is fired through the roof to launch it. A Cirrus is totalled (written off) after a parachute use. I'd use it over trees but I think I try to land it in a field or on a road if I was over flat land.
Hi Marc. If you are planning to make a Cirrus video, you’re welcome to fly and demonstrate my SR20. Just food for thought. I’m located in Connecticut.
Thanks for yet another interesting video.
Armen.
I'd love to but that is very far away. Thank you.
Did Lancair offer an EAB kit of this model?
I think now you can still buy them.
A glimpse into Mark's cushy office
So cushy that interior designers try unsuccessfully to mimic it in their client's homes.
Nice Model A.
Hi Jack! We made a video of it. czcams.com/video/pR7iZLb19e8/video.html
👍
They should have kept up with production and to continue as a direct competitor to cirrus.
Yes, they should.
Beautiful plane. I’m going to get to the point. Would he take $200k? If so can have the cash to you this weekend. Serious offer.
Sorry. Can't do it.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 well let me know. Have it with me ready to go.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 what can we do? Let’s make a deal!
He's not that low yet. Probably never will be. Sensible offers only. You ought to e-mail me direct.
Bought it!
Thanks Jon. You are going to love it.
Are you sure those phone calls aren't just your camera man calling you just to mess with you???
GoPro needs to come up with a mount that has a heatsink or a fan.
They are real calls. I always forget to turn it off until it reminds me.
tape a small piece of paper on the windscreen behind the gopros to prevent overheating.
Takes a minute to rotate.
🥵Don't follow your gopro into overheating territory. You know, I saw this interesting video yesterday about a sort of portable GA AC system powered off of the 12V plug and some ice. You should talk to that fella....... ;-)
Ha ha yes. The sun beats on them when they are in the window.
Leave it to Cessna, they're stuck in the rivet age.
Rivets work though. I sell 70 year old Cessna's sometimes.
cessna must of lost a ton of money on this one😢 never cheap but a good plane? new close to a co9l mill in cost!
I’ll never understand why modern turbocharged aircraft engines are so delicate. People constantly make statements about thermal shocking the turbo, etc, etc. I hear it all the time. Meanwhile, I can jump into any old Saab 900 with over 100k miles on it and still beat the living crap out of it, and never have a single issue with it. In fact, most turbocharged cars can take a harsh beating; why can’t they aviation counterparts do the same? Has Honeywell/Garrett not come up with a more durable design?
They are air cooled. Temp fluctuates with power a lot. Cars are water cooled and they have a narrower temp range. Also changing a design in aviation is years of work and millions of dollars and liability because it's "New."
I don't think I dig the side stick. Just my taste, but I'd rather have a yoke.
You get used to it really fast.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Sorry. I'm bad about blurting out stuff. Got to fly a little evening/night IFR departure/VFR return cross country from Greensboro to Knoxville downtown island airport( which is just about the coolest airport you can fly into) in a nice, nearly new Cirrus (with ballistic chute). The owner and the airplane were both as slick as could be, but the controls kind of seemed asymmetrical somehow. It sure didn't seem to challenge my host at all. And boy, those planes are fast cross country, even when they're loafing.
How many phone calls do you lose to CZcams?? 😂
A lot.
Poor plane... It needs retracts.
Poor? I have a TTx and the fixed gear is one reasons I bought it. Less maintenance and no chance of a gear failure. Also drastically cheaper to insure (like $10,000 a year less) than a similar Bonanza, I know I priced both before I bought. Twin carbon fiber wing spars, load tested to 26g's earned it a utility rating by the FAA. At an economy cruise it does 180 true burning 14gph at 10 to 12,000'. It will do 235 true at FL 250. It's a cross country machine, extraordinarily comfortable and very docile flying IFR. It flies beautifully, very benign stall characteristics and is totally recoverable from a spin so the FAA doesn't require the parachute, which costs $10,000 to repack every 10 years. The only issue I have is common to all composite aircraft, the lack of a ground plane in the fuselage makes long range comms a hair less reliable, but not dramatically so. I have issues on one local approach, which is horribly designed to make you change approach controllers at low altitude. I lose the second controller, which is actually much further away than the first, at about 2,000'. I have to switch to tower on my own, tower has been usually been informed I'm NORDO. I did have the same issue in my T182T, but I could get down to about 1,800' before I'd lose approach. The TTx is a bear to slow down, and it is insanely fast. If you don't stay on top of it you're doing 160 in the pattern quickly, he wasn't kidding about it not being a pattern airplane.
@@johnfriend862 Even so, I'll pray for both you and the poor retractless sad plane which needs retracts. (and I'm not religious)
Well fact is, this is a great awesome performance airplane. When Cessna took over in 2008, from then on they made bad mistakes one after another. The management screwed up there big chances with full power into the ruins for this plane. That’s sad, because of all these stupid decisions. They had all chance, to equip this airplane with BRS either. There where already Tests with BRS for the 172 and as I believe for the 182 either. Back then they already decided not to do this. What is even more stupid is when the manufacturer Cirrus leads the way and Cessna arrogantly continues to sit on its high horse and just watches. For me an incompetent management. The company Cessna which have written history with decades of years of excellent aircraft in general aviation. Why did they buy Lanceair rights and designs of this plane? To screw it up? They had the reputation the money and know how to do everything right on this plane. Top avionics, nice leather interior, BRS and the label of Cessna. Cirrus was way back in disadvantages and they did it right, not being arrogant and listening to the wishes and needs of the customers. Often the wife goes into decisions to buy the family airplane. What will she choose? Of course the safety of the plane with BRS. Cirrus rightly won and got the market share and Cessna did everything wrong that could be done wrong. Where would the story be today with a TTX with BRS system? Sad story for this great awesome airplane.
True.
Talk about distracted flying ( cell phones) dudes and accident waiting to happen. 😊
I didn’t even answer it. How about talking to three Go-Pros?
@@skywagonuniversity5023 it's all good man, I was picking on ya. Was pretty funny though. Enjoy your vids, keep em coming... 😁