Dang it Dell, you did it AGAIN!!... Alienware X17 Review

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    0:00 Intro
    0:43 What's New
    2:15 Benchmarks
    2:42 The Problem
    4:25 Fit & Finish
    5:15 Trackpad
    5:28 Screen
    6:15 Speakers
    6:32 Inputs
    6:56 Teardown
    9:17 Conclusion
    10:45 Outro
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  • @LinusTechTips
    @LinusTechTips  Před 2 lety +3577

    IMPORTANT NOTE: A BIOS update was uploaded yesterday that enables the MUX switch on the X17. It is kinda janky since you need to enable the MUX in the BIOS and turn it off to have Optimus (Lenovo and Asus have much simpler solutions to this), but it does give you the extra performance on the 4K and 1080P screen options.
    www.dell.com/support/home/en-ca/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=hthtc&oscode=wt64a&productcode=alienware-x17-r1-laptop

    • @marcmiyamoto
      @marcmiyamoto Před 2 lety +33

      finally!

    • @marcmiyamoto
      @marcmiyamoto Před 2 lety +6

      That's amazing!

    • @TheNightKing22
      @TheNightKing22 Před 2 lety +9

      Lol!

    • @poolist
      @poolist Před 2 lety +3

      4th

    • @LCJammer
      @LCJammer Před 2 lety +26

      as far as i know asus does not have a mux switch on most of their current laptops. you have to bypass it with a external monitor.

  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech Před 2 lety +1413

    They did the same thing in the m15 R5 too - adding the MUX switch with a BIOS update. Clearly the underlying hardware was there all along and they were just using it for the panels that had G-Sync support, so it's good that they just gave the option to all of them, but weird they didn't just do it from the start because now all the reviews end up consistent leading to customer confusion.

    • @icantsee0
      @icantsee0 Před 2 lety +46

      Ayyy Jarrod. The one man with all the laptop reviews you would need.

    • @nrgamingtech2797
      @nrgamingtech2797 Před 2 lety +71

      Customer confusion is one of Dell's specialties

    • @Themidamultitool
      @Themidamultitool Před 2 lety +3

      They also later on added support to my Dell G15 laptop ^

    • @Ryuseigan
      @Ryuseigan Před 2 lety +8

      They'd enable it sooner if you just got the financing. 😆

    • @Darkhalo314
      @Darkhalo314 Před 2 lety +1

      Well said Jarrod

  • @connormoroney1305
    @connormoroney1305 Před 2 lety +794

    This video might as well be titled "Dell FINALLY figures out how to cool a laptop after 15 years of burning bricks"

    • @bogdanionut7768
      @bogdanionut7768 Před 2 lety +14

      Not exactly. I have a Dell 7567 and it's 3-4 years old. It's running cool as hell. 80 C under heavy load with rare jumps to 85.
      In light tasks I don't even hear the fan. It's damn quiet. Newer models have this issue where just watching a Netflix would wake up the vents.

    • @AB-rz5iw
      @AB-rz5iw Před 2 lety +31

      The problem with Dell is not their cooling methods (which works), but rather, their fan profiles, which seems to wait until the CPU is almost melting to crank itself up.

    • @aryannarula2086
      @aryannarula2086 Před 2 lety +3

      @@bogdanionut7768 bruh I wanna know what black magic your one does. My 7567 reaches 94 celcius a few minutes after gaming even at an underclock of both cpu and GPU through throttlestop and afterburner

    • @stripes8812
      @stripes8812 Před 2 lety +3

      And still fucks it up.

    • @OctoBirb8Claws
      @OctoBirb8Claws Před 2 lety +1

      i have an alienware 17 r5 from 2018, and this is true (my gpu reaches 80C while playing minecraft with 12 chunk distance)

  • @rossmanngroup
    @rossmanngroup Před 2 lety +235

    No trackpoint!
    3:25 - another benefit, the mux is also what takes the hit instead of the GPU when Apple puts the 52v power line next to the 1.7v image data line. Much prefer to replace a 9x9 ball chip than a 900+ one :) I'm surprised most laptops don't use this when Apple has been since.. 2008 at least actually. That is cheap and lazy. I almost appreciate Apple design here.

    • @miljuswa
      @miljuswa Před 2 lety +10

      no replies on THE Rossmann's comment? we're better than this, people! here, take mine louis. no need to thank me.

    • @monotrope
      @monotrope Před 2 lety +6

      Lol the man the myth the legend himself! I didn't know apple were generous enough to include a MUX switch since 2008!
      Bob of All Trades, a small time youtuber, now Elutroniks head of R&D also always pushed for a MUX switch on all laptops with a dGPU. The repairablity point of view is something I hadn't thought of and it makes so much sense! The addition of a MUX should be insignificant interms of cost, a 9x9 IC + a few extra lines. The added functionality, performance and repairability are just game changing.
      Also Louis, turns out Alex being the unprepared dude has been wrong about the MUX switch. This X17 does have a MUX switch. He says it in the X15 video.

    • @backseatdriver9576
      @backseatdriver9576 Před 2 lety +1

      Rofl, you fail to mention that Apple isn't good for playing games on and that it also has MASSIVE thermal problems making it throttle almost non-stop. Laptops today are NOT made to replace failed parts outside of manufacturer repairs (one thing you are fighting for and ty for that) so which part you replace is a mute factor. Couple that with a lack of parts available today and the fact the entire board is changed out instead of trying to find the problem on the board and repair it isn't the focus on design. The MAIN issue with gaming laptops since I've been buying them since 1995 has ALWAYS been thermal throttling...and Alienware has FINALLY solved that issue! The MUX performance issue isn't nearly as important as the cooling improvement to the person gaming all day so I'm going to give Dell a pass on that one.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM Před 2 lety +1234

    I really like it when desktop replacement laptops have rear-mounted IO, it makes the desk less cluttered and there's more room for your external mouse, which you are probably going to use if you plan on gaming.

    • @IamJay02
      @IamJay02 Před 2 lety +3

      Nice pfp

    • @IamJay02
      @IamJay02 Před 2 lety +4

      @@greziakoply9555 who asked

    • @comandernejo
      @comandernejo Před 2 lety +3

      No usb a on the sides suck major cock. I hate that my 51m r2 only has 3 usb a ports. We need moaaaaar poooowwwweeerrrr

    • @BBQasaurus
      @BBQasaurus Před 2 lety +9

      Except that the power cable is on the left side of the screen. I really wish they'd put it on the back with the rest of the I/O.

    • @comandernejo
      @comandernejo Před 2 lety +2

      @@BBQasaurus yeaaah. Why did they change that. So weird

  • @aeris6892
    @aeris6892 Před 2 lety +644

    The mux was unlocked in a recent BIOS update.
    The delivery experience with this sucks though, if you buy a custom config. I had two delays come up. Some people I've asked have had 3 and upwards to 4 months because of the shortage.

    • @StolenPw
      @StolenPw Před 2 lety +74

      My wife left me

    • @Panpayia
      @Panpayia Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly this. I’m waiting on mine aswell after delays. If you email them you might be able to get some money refunded due to the delays.

    • @Miguel-jm2pf
      @Miguel-jm2pf Před 2 lety +36

      The fact that is PHYSICALLY THERE and they fucking locked it on a $3000+ laptop is absurd. Good thing they got their mind right

    • @louisxtan
      @louisxtan Před 2 lety +1

      Leadtime for laptops suck for pretty much all brands that has a custom config. AFAIK the display shortage is really hitting them hard.

    • @prisai03
      @prisai03 Před 2 lety

      LMFAO u are damn funny XD

  • @durps8815
    @durps8815 Před 2 lety +243

    I still despise alienware for their prebuilt pcs but honestly they're really stepping it up with their laptops. Gotta give credit where credit is due, good job dell.

    • @j0my77
      @j0my77 Před 2 lety +7

      their 38" ultrawide is also very impressive, got mine on the EOFY sale.

    • @mkjk2534
      @mkjk2534 Před 2 lety +3

      What's wrong with their PCs? I have never owned an Alienware product and I'm just curious

    • @1Darkis
      @1Darkis Před 2 lety +10

      @@mkjk2534 I think because they are overpriced compare to building your own. I had one and I loved it but I hated that I couldn’t really upgrade anything.

    • @derangel9143
      @derangel9143 Před 2 lety +12

      @@mkjk2534 They're basically Dell's in a different care. Pure e-waste as very little, if anything, in them can be re-used. You can't even re-use the cases as everything is proprietary. Check out Gamer's Nexus video on their pre-built.

    • @chalor182
      @chalor182 Před 2 lety +1

      Never say those words

  • @needfuldoer4531
    @needfuldoer4531 Před 2 lety +520

    Dell: "We're going to throw all the cooling at this sucker!"
    Apple: "Just don't touch the hot part."

    • @andrewhollowaym
      @andrewhollowaym Před 2 lety +7

      Apple: ..or the exposed power delivery

    • @mrbrittas3254
      @mrbrittas3254 Před 2 lety +5

      i am so sick of ppl doing that. dell"
      apple "
      WTF why just why. find something else to do, get a girlfriend as your comments are pointless

    • @ShawnStrickland
      @ShawnStrickland Před 2 lety +10

      @@mrbrittas3254 Just don't look at the comment that triggers you instead of trying to cancel their fun.

    • @TheZALGOisCOMING
      @TheZALGOisCOMING Před 2 lety +7

      @@drewthor the M1 thermal throttles almost as fast as intel macs. just because you can't feel the heat in the chassis doesn't mean apple's cooling has improved

    • @mrbrittas3254
      @mrbrittas3254 Před 2 lety

      @@ShawnStrickland i do try to just scroll past soon as i see "
      "

  • @jacobeaton4042
    @jacobeaton4042 Před 2 lety +470

    Whoever filmed this deserves an award…those close up B-roll shots of the internals were top notch professional grade stuff 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

    • @JN.0_o
      @JN.0_o Před 2 lety +37

      It looks like Brandon stole the company credit card again and went shopping for probe lenses 🤣

    • @hellterminator
      @hellterminator Před 2 lety +29

      Well, according to the credits, it was shot by B-roll himself.
      Edit: B-roll was Brandon's “stage name” back in LTT's cringe years.

    • @potassiumchloride2542
      @potassiumchloride2542 Před 2 lety

      Pretty sure is brandon

    • @TomiLynch
      @TomiLynch Před 2 lety

      It's Brundon

    • @monketok141
      @monketok141 Před 2 lety +2

      @@hellterminator let's not forget Luke being "Slick"

  • @Pro720HyperMaster720
    @Pro720HyperMaster720 Před 2 lety +89

    7:10 I love that you can easily upgrade storage and ram, in general, in the previous version, the RAM was soldered

    • @EragoEntertainment
      @EragoEntertainment Před 2 lety +4

      Having good expansion slots was the reason I bought a ASUS TUF Gaming A17, it had 2 M.2, replacable M.2 WiFi card, 2 RAM slots and a 2.5inch bay.

    • @subliminaljuggernaut7278
      @subliminaljuggernaut7278 Před 2 lety

      lol...upgrade m2 to m2.........why no 2.5 ssd

    • @Pro720HyperMaster720
      @Pro720HyperMaster720 Před 2 lety

      @@subliminaljuggernaut7278 Having two M.2 slots is a lot better, a lot higher speeds, and you can have more store in 2 M.2 NVME 2280 than in one SATA SSD 2.5 inch (in speeds we are talking around 3500mb/s in PCIe 3.0 or around 7000 to 8000 in PCIe 4.0 and if you have 2 drives in RAID 0 speed is combined, that way if you really had the money you can have 16TB of SSD up to 6800mb/s vs the around 500mb/s per drive you can have in sata, cost per GB is similar and one is optimized for HDD so is not ideal for SSD and is a lot slower compared to the upcoming minimum common denominator that are console ssd speeds that range from around 3500mb/s Xbox Series to around 5000mb/s of PS5.
      So in the end around same price, a lot slower and too big, usually it translate in considerable smaller batteries which most prefer as big as possible.
      So... all cons and no positives

    • @subliminaljuggernaut7278
      @subliminaljuggernaut7278 Před 2 lety

      @@Pro720HyperMaster720 Thank you for the input, youve given me something to consider. however I feel that the weight of a 2.5 ssd is negligable compared to the benefit that the storage can provide. m.2 will always be inferior capacity.
      if im paying $5000 for a laptop i want it to have storage beyond 4tb or at least have the ability to have a 2.5 ssd slot.
      upgradability is what makes a perfect laptop. can you belive that dell soldered the ram in the m17 ? and that it was badly designed prone to overheating? thats where dell is going wrong...its making pretty laptops with stupid design flaws. at $5000 at unit it needs better thinking.

    • @Pro720HyperMaster720
      @Pro720HyperMaster720 Před 2 lety

      @@subliminaljuggernaut7278 theorically yes, in practice no, per drive lets asume an M.2 is half the size but two things happen, first, in the space that requires a 2.5 disk drive you can fit 2 m.2 and due be two separate units can be arrange in more efficient ways so it doesn’t affect space inside for battery nowhere near as much as 2.5 inch drive, you can still found near 100wh batteries (maximum legal to flight) with 2 m.2 unlike with 1 2.5 inch drive.
      2nd and most important. M.2 is the future and it gets major industry focus, literally before a final name was decided M.2 was officially refered as NGFF that literally means Next Gen Form Factor, that leads to more effort putted in, so the maximum size offered right now is 8TB for both M.2 and 2.5 inch SSD (HDD top on 5TB in this category) so if you plan in spending $5000 in a laptop you can easily get a RTX 3080 laptop and 16TB of M.2 SSDs.
      Look 2.5 SSD have the next problem, in the consumer space are limited to SATA, a standard that is not going to improve their speeds as already stated by its organization, is a conector and a protocol which is meant for HDDs which leaves inefficiencies but nothing serious, the things is, is a dead standard.
      Consumer space will be taken over by M.2 NVME
      While in server/datacenter space before was SATA and SAS, now is mostly SAS with a little M.2, SAS continued improving speeds and is compatible with the NVME protocol, you can find SAS NVME drives. So today SATA drives lives for legacy, HDDs and cheap SSDs and some times the difference in price is minimal or non existent, btw the ones that definitely going to not be sold in the near future are M.2 SATAs.
      Sorry for the big text but look I also a couple of years ago preferred having an 2.5 inch drive but now I can’t see any benefits, m.2 offers maximum store but in maximum capacities is more expensive although a step below they are similar prices a lot faster and allowing bigger batteries, AND I forgot to mention that manufactures don’t usually like 2.5 inch drives in high end laptops because people may use HDDs (which I like in desktops while a lot more space is cheaper) that have a huge problem in laptops, drives with moving parts not get along well with moving devices so they get easily damaged that lead to a direct not working drive or going much slower, and consume a lot of energy, in the user side should mostly not be used internally in a laptop having options with more space in SSDs).
      And I talking to you having right know a 4TB SATA 2.5 inch drive, installed on my desktop but mi daily driver laptop is a ThinkPad T480 which lets you choose 2.5 inch or M.2 without sacrificing battery thanks to the dual battery system with an option for the 2nd to be high capacity protruding outside like a stand-off, unfortunately they no longer sell laptops like this which easily let you have what you want without sacrifices. The most similar things is to have a laptop that can charge though USB-C so you can use a power bank to compensate the smaller inside battery due to a 2.5 inch slots

  • @CalebHawn
    @CalebHawn Před 2 lety +6

    You guys are awesome, working so hard on these super high-quality professional reviews on these devices. When he said he's starting on the next review tomorrow, it reminded me of how much constant work gets put into these videos. Thanks to all of you people! I look forward to the next one.

  • @MistaZipps
    @MistaZipps Před 2 lety +34

    The speakers can sound AMAZING when you tweak the audio settings in the alienware app.

    • @ashyouknow7420
      @ashyouknow7420 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah I did tune mine as well in my HP OMEN 15 and it sounds amazing when the reviewers said they were pretty average. But still Dell should really put better speakers in their Alienware laptops they should sound much better for how much premium one is paying to get one

    • @oneminvideoagency
      @oneminvideoagency Před 2 lety

      What is the other laptop that sounded better, Legion 7?

  • @tbrooke3016
    @tbrooke3016 Před 2 lety +154

    Omg whoever shot the b role close up of the main board and cooling solution has my eternal respect. Simply Beautiful 😍

  • @UnimportantAcc
    @UnimportantAcc Před 2 lety +41

    "without sounding like an audio immersion mod for flight simulator"
    lmao

  • @azwolf0429
    @azwolf0429 Před 2 lety +15

    I know they’re for different purposes technically, but I’m curious how this compares to the new XPS17?

    • @azwolf0429
      @azwolf0429 Před 2 lety

      @@rustler08 i actually prefer a 17. I'm 6'4" and definitely not tiny. Weight is almost a nonfactor for me on a portable lol. The new xps did seem tempting since you can get it with the mega I9 and a 3070. But if they're within a couple 100 bucks or so the alien 👽 is compelling.

  • @evanmartin1271
    @evanmartin1271 Před 2 lety +1

    bro, you and anthony make my fav vids these days. like.. i love the whole crew but.. keep it up doods. you guys rock.

  • @arminrichard1836
    @arminrichard1836 Před 2 lety +58

    That was a really nice shot from the cooling solution. Reaaaally liked that one

  • @a_lonely_potato351
    @a_lonely_potato351 Před 2 lety +11

    9:00 ok, that was a REALLY nice shot.

  • @HairyTheCandyMan
    @HairyTheCandyMan Před 2 lety +3

    I have the previous x17 with an Intel i7 and 3080. That with the 4k and built in Tobii eye tracking. It's frigging amazing and I'm glad I got it before this new revision. It's a great upgrade from my previous pc- a $400 2011 Toshiba Laptop

  • @LoneTiger
    @LoneTiger Před 2 lety +4

    Saving up for the MSI 17" 3080 i9 laptop. Also, never been a fan of RAID-0 setups, I could be using 1Tb for OS and main programs / games and a 2 or 4 Tb for secondary programs or storage. RAID-0 gain is minimal.

  • @secyll5565
    @secyll5565 Před 2 lety +290

    I feel the same way about an AMD CPU option. Team Red's power efficiency is just off the charts. I wouldn't go without AMD in a Laptop anymore

    • @bhavjotkang8004
      @bhavjotkang8004 Před 2 lety +11

      Can’t get a framework with AMD☹️

    • @sillapopulares
      @sillapopulares Před 2 lety +23

      @@bhavjotkang8004 they are working on it

    • @Droid96
      @Droid96 Před 2 lety +15

      I would agree if it weren’t for the fact that 99% of ryzen products don’t support thunderbolt.

    • @PabzRoz
      @PabzRoz Před 2 lety +11

      some people need thunderbolt

    • @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU
      @NotEvenDeathCanSaveU Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah for some actual reasons I am actually glad its not amd, however intel could make a better job producing chips better fitting smaller battery dependent devices instead of making this inefficient garbage, I mean its not a rocket science, I guess it would cost too much money to actually invest in it

  • @ERGOPROXY.
    @ERGOPROXY. Před 2 lety +4

    This was a really good review and I would love to see even more like it. Great presentation style and informative comparisons. Keep it up!

  • @Sawta
    @Sawta Před 2 lety

    I like that dolly shot around 9:00! Good work camera team!

  • @dieselfreak28
    @dieselfreak28 Před 2 lety

    I'm digging the music for the teardown portion of the video

  • @artbybee
    @artbybee Před 2 lety +78

    Bring Luke's greatest laugh or Riley"s commentary on this channel's regular upload! Hehehe... Ahhh, I love hearing those two voices!

  • @marolex_
    @marolex_ Před 2 lety +28

    Great points and im excited to see how the knockoff does.
    Regarding the trackpad its probably less of a downside than it seems. If you're using your gaming laptop for gaming you're probably already (or should be) using a mouse in which scenario a smaller wrist obstruction makes a little more sense imo.

    • @maskaradebannana6925
      @maskaradebannana6925 Před 2 lety +3

      Ywa i Think the trackpad is like is just for an emergency anyway

    • @MikhaelAhava
      @MikhaelAhava Před 2 lety +1

      Laptops usually have palm rejections on trackpads so accidental presses aren’t a problem.

  • @marib1881
    @marib1881 Před 2 lety +1

    I just ordered the Alien x17 today. 6 Months from you making this video. But the regular price in now $3,250, But I caught a sale that saves me $1,050. I got this with 32GB Memory and the Display that give me the "AKA, Fancy MUX Switch". My laptop, which shall not be named, is in the shop and I'm hopeful that I can retrieve my files and I need my replacement pretty quickly. I was just about to put in my card info for the Legion 7i, based on review and price.... plus it has the number pad I want, tho not the 17.3 screen I'm used to, but it said it would take me *4+ Months* to be shipped!!!! LIKE WHAT!!!!. So the Alienware won this battle for my pocket with a less than 2 week ETA. I had a really hard time deciding between the two. But here's to getting my new laptop in less than 2 weeks. It's by far a huge cry of an upgrade from my 7-8 year old laptop. I couldn't go wrong either way.

  • @jinz0
    @jinz0 Před 2 lety +1

    I had one of the old big alienware laptops before Dell, was like jumbo jet inside volcano, but those were the good days, gaming and playing wow with my bro's

  • @rajanbhateja6844
    @rajanbhateja6844 Před 2 lety +6

    You guys really should include more macro shots, they look amazing

  • @alolanstarboy
    @alolanstarboy Před 2 lety +148

    That line about the Dad hat being “brand new but looks like it’s been dropped in the ocean” took a while to hit me but it gave a good hoot when it did. Unexpectedly funny 😭

    • @Freakschwimmer
      @Freakschwimmer Před 2 lety +2

      I dont get it..... I mean Linus drops things, I guess. But why the Ocean?

    • @IHT_OW
      @IHT_OW Před 2 lety +4

      @@Freakschwimmer dads go fishing

  • @vishalksahoo3599
    @vishalksahoo3599 Před 2 lety +2

    1:59 audio immersion mod for MSFS...nice

  • @markm4120
    @markm4120 Před 2 lety +1

    Even though the new R2 is out, I picked up the R1 last week for $1195 off retail...from DELL. My wife has the R1 and mostly likes it so I was looking at the R2 but the prices are insane right now so for giggles I started playing around in the configurator for the R1 and when I clicked on the 360mhz screen, some other options were chosen automatically (3080, 32gb, per key lighting) and the discount was wild. I know they sometimes try to get rid of NOS but I had only seen discounts of maybe 300 or so until now. Not only was this thing nearly 1200 dollars off but it was ready to ship! It took 2 days after ordering to get it in hand. That's rare for Dell. So, it's time to retire my trusty Clevo P870TM1 for some new firepower. :)

  • @MonsterIsABlock
    @MonsterIsABlock Před 2 lety +11

    A Laptop without sound? Give me this right now!

    • @cringefest1749
      @cringefest1749 Před 2 lety +2

      @Savetion Lmao damn bro you got the whole squad laughing

    • @bruhbruh9685
      @bruhbruh9685 Před 2 lety +1

      @Savetion Lmao Linus Tech Tips is company lol which employee grandad passed away

  • @WermMilk
    @WermMilk Před 2 lety +7

    Thank you, most important thing for me is performance for value. Most middle class consumers want affordable performing laptops, not fancy apple like designs that restrict air flow.

  • @gavinbishop6152
    @gavinbishop6152 Před 2 lety +1

    I appreciate this workaround your stake in framework I think this is a great way to do things to keep the integrity of LTT

  • @mitchaharden1
    @mitchaharden1 Před 2 lety

    Oh my... That shot at 9:00 was nice! Was that a probe lens?

  • @Sard_Onyx
    @Sard_Onyx Před 2 lety +44

    It's weird that it seems it's amazing on everything that makes a desktop great and falls short on the laptop aspects (small trackpad kinda making you go to mouse, monitor is necessary to bypass MUX, less efficient Intel CPU messing with the battery life). If you dock it with a monitor and a mouse, it looks flawless.

    • @bao1964
      @bao1964 Před 2 lety +7

      Well they really took the "desktop replacement" seriously tho.

  • @yaron_izzikf
    @yaron_izzikf Před 2 lety +32

    Please do a video of the "perfect Frankenstein laptop" - What component you'll take from different laptops in order to build the ultimate gaming laptop?

    • @The_Cloudy_Sky
      @The_Cloudy_Sky Před 2 lety

      It doesn't really work like that. In laptops, a lot of the parts are custom for the system it's going in, you can't just interchange them like desktop components.

    • @rickgao5510
      @rickgao5510 Před 2 lety +6

      @@The_Cloudy_Sky it’s called a thought experiment

  • @gsr_9978
    @gsr_9978 Před 2 lety +2

    alex has mastered the sponsor transition, drops thinks often. is he linus only taller?
    P.s. great that ur still slamming laptops
    jokes aside. good video, liked it. where do u see if ur laptop has muxed switches? never heard it before tbh

  • @RossComputerGuy
    @RossComputerGuy Před 2 lety

    I got my M15 R5 a month ago and I've been loving it

  • @jihedjoe1
    @jihedjoe1 Před 2 lety +18

    I think dell is rolling out bios updates to the X17 that enables the mux switch for both the low end 165hz panel and the higher end 4k one

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Před 2 lety +1

      Not sure about the low end one.
      They literally say with the details of the new BIOS (version 1.3.0.):
      - Added Enable Hybrid Graphics/Advanced Optimus (when available) option in BIOS Setup Menu on systems with non-DDS UHD LCD panels.
      The low end one isn't a UHD panel so don't get your hopes up too much. It would be nice if they did the same for the low end FHD 165Hz panel though but it doesn't seem like they added support in this specific BIOS version.

    • @jihedjoe1
      @jihedjoe1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CheapBastard1988 correct if I'm wrong , but I think they made the mux switch usable with the FHD 165hz display in a previous update that's why version 1.3.0 specifies that the feature is coming to the UHD panel only

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jihedjoe1 You're right. They did this in version 1.2.1. released in August. I didn't notice it because the Dell website doesn't make earlier BIOS versions easy to find.

  • @jonny_vdv
    @jonny_vdv Před 2 lety +8

    I like how crab rave is Alex's standard audio test.

    • @rileykemp1
      @rileykemp1 Před 2 lety +2

      for a sort of quick and dirty test, it makes sense to me, especially for testing "compact" speaker arrangements, since it has pretty heavy bass playing alongside some crisp high notes.

    • @phillipmarnik
      @phillipmarnik Před 2 lety +1

      And we've heard it so many times now that it makes it easy to compare. I hope they never change it.

  • @jacoporiccilaltro
    @jacoporiccilaltro Před 2 lety

    Did you just buy a macro probe? That macro shot of the cooling coming out of nowhere is just AMAZING!

  • @scottwilkins
    @scottwilkins Před 2 lety

    Dell uses those keys in some of the Precision laptops too. It's crazy good for a keyboard like this in a laptop.

  • @aqeelat
    @aqeelat Před 2 lety +5

    Serious question: how did they figure out that the issue was the MUX? Was it documented somewhere or was it by deduction?

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Před 2 lety

      That's a good question

    • @edvinjohnson4136
      @edvinjohnson4136 Před 2 lety +2

      Simple, connecting to an external monitor through a port that's directly connected to the 3080 bypasses Optimus, which is what a MUX switch does, only with regards to the laptop's display. If the performance increases with this method, it means that the lack of a MUX switch is what's lowering the performance.

    • @aqeelat
      @aqeelat Před 2 lety

      @@edvinjohnson4136 well put. Thank you. I also realized from your reply that Dell has a name for the feature which means you can look through the bios to see if the feature is available.

  • @KungfufightU
    @KungfufightU Před 2 lety +6

    Im rocking the i9 3080 version of the x17. I gotta say this thing was damn impressive before the MUX switch activated. Now its hands down the best gaming machine I have ever owned. I love the fact that it's portable as well as powerful. I strongly recommend snagging one if you can.

    • @hermansyahn.n9091
      @hermansyahn.n9091 Před 2 lety

      Good for u

    • @JudeMarchisio
      @JudeMarchisio Před 2 lety +1

      How much did you spend?

    • @KungfufightU
      @KungfufightU Před 2 lety

      @@JudeMarchisio about 4K overall

    • @chriskek7321
      @chriskek7321 Před 10 měsíci +1

      hey man, i know this is comment is old, but i bought the exact model with yours second hand and i am waiting for it to arrive. does the MUX also enables g-sync on the laptops screen? i suppose you have the 4K model.

    • @KungfufightU
      @KungfufightU Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@chriskek7321 I Believe gsync is possible with your Nvidia tools. Mix switch should be enabled first though.

  • @louisuy_
    @louisuy_ Před 2 lety

    The editing language in this video is awesome, refreshing yet not jarring. Love it. I'm only 10 seconds in!

  • @Maramctc
    @Maramctc Před 2 lety

    you gonna love it. Smooth transition to sponsor... a Little Linus in every Host @ LMG.

  • @andrewarmstrong5266
    @andrewarmstrong5266 Před 2 lety +4

    Love Sarah's face as she tries not to laugh lol

  • @PixelSheep
    @PixelSheep Před 2 lety +3

    Damn really curious for tomorrow - as far as I can remember this never actually happened to be true for me for a laptop before :D
    But this AMD mystical thing seems to be quite something :D

  • @haraldlorentzen40
    @haraldlorentzen40 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice looking machine, and the specs are very good for a laptop.
    That said, I had a gander at my country's Dell website to check the prices, and it's very expensive over here. Nearly double the price of my new gaming rig. I guess the price is understandable as you get a lot for the price, but still WAY outside my price range if I were in the market to get a new laptop.

  • @jahchild8998
    @jahchild8998 Před 2 lety

    the probelense shots are SICK!

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Před 2 lety +110

    GIVE IT a F***ING MUX SWITCH
    I love him 🥰
    I imagine most of us didn't even know what a mux switch was, never mind how essential it is (and how much of a bottleneck it is for potential super expensive high end laptops), he's doing us all a great service!

    • @SquintyGears
      @SquintyGears Před 2 lety

      On paper it's very cheap component too. There is a small chance they cut it because of how little space they had on the motherboard (with all those fans taking space) but i doubt they didn't have the engineering to make it work if they wanted to. it's just not a marketable spec so they knew it didn't matter for their sales.
      - it's alianware
      -it's slim and gamer looking
      -it has rtx 3080
      That's all

    • @nogoat
      @nogoat Před 2 lety +7

      @@SquintyGears Someone pointed out that it in fact, has a MUX switch but was disabled at the BIOS level. But, thankfully, the latest BIOS update enables it.

    • @xxcr4ckzzxx840
      @xxcr4ckzzxx840 Před 2 lety +5

      @@SquintyGears Apparently, as stated by someone in the Comments, it has a Mux switch, but it isnt enabled. You can activate it via a BIOS Update Dell Provides.

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. Před 2 lety

      That is so Dell...

    • @slay3rgamingyt
      @slay3rgamingyt Před 2 lety +1

      It does have a mux switch. Every gaming laptop with 3060 or above should have one. With optimus enabled on my legion 5, I get less than 144fps in valorant but with optimus off aka dGPU mode I get ~180-200 consistently. Huge difference IMO.

  • @ignignxkt
    @ignignxkt Před 2 lety +113

    I'm glad they're finally addressing their horrendous cooling they've suffered from for years, but for me it's too little too late. For all the thousands I've spent with them and all the headaches I've had because of their shoddy laptops, I just can't ever go back to Dell /AW. I just dont trust them.

    • @arnox4554
      @arnox4554 Před 2 lety +27

      Maybe picking up an extended warranty would make you feel better.

    • @Rav56nessMag1c
      @Rav56nessMag1c Před 2 lety +4

      This is how I feel about AMD

    • @kylehagertybanana
      @kylehagertybanana Před 2 lety +15

      brand loyalty is dumb anyways why would you not just looks at specs and price

    • @Ollyburl1ngo
      @Ollyburl1ngo Před 2 lety

      @@ayanchingara3932 😂😂😂

    • @juannot1353
      @juannot1353 Před 2 lety +10

      @@kylehagertybanana okay but laptops require a lot of faith in the manufacturer though. Much more than desktops. Which desktops you're putting a degree of faith in each component involved, but if one fails odds are good you can swap just that. With laptops you're absolutely at the mercy of the system integrator on just about every front and you can easily get stuck with terrible cooling or build quality in general not technically breaking the machine and qualifying you for a refund but still making the laptop far worse than you expected.

  • @remigoldbach9608
    @remigoldbach9608 Před 2 lety

    That troll about Area 51 at the beginning 😂

  • @DavoudQorashi
    @DavoudQorashi Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the review. What has happened to Area 51 series? Is it discontinued?

  • @raawesome3851
    @raawesome3851 Před 2 lety +83

    "Dell, you did it AGAIN..." Original title.

    • @sqlxe
      @sqlxe Před 2 lety +1

      that's the same title

    • @jaskaranbajwa8443
      @jaskaranbajwa8443 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sqlxe youtubers change their titles sometimes

    • @Abu_Shawarib
      @Abu_Shawarib Před 2 lety +1

      Update: "Dang it Dell, you did it AGAIN!!..."

  • @TheTurtle
    @TheTurtle Před 2 lety +35

    *Alex walking into Dell HQ*
    "WHERE'S THE MUC SWITCH?!"

    • @paradox_monke7338
      @paradox_monke7338 Před 2 lety +2

      WHERE IS IT, GIVE ME THE FUCKING MUZ SWITCH

    • @bshenlow882
      @bshenlow882 Před 2 lety +3

      *insert Gordon Ramsay here* WHERE'S THE MUX SWITCH?

  • @MLeoM
    @MLeoM Před 2 lety

    I love the way the video was presented or talked, far better than other ones.
    Also loved that metion of a better one inside this video which makes a huge difference, if it wasn't mentioned in this video it would be sad.

  • @swanandkulkarni1419
    @swanandkulkarni1419 Před 2 lety +1

    Can u pls reviews for budget gaming laptops like tuf f15. Many people like me have lower budgets and would love to see some reviews in budget gaming section.

  • @NotaBeast
    @NotaBeast Před 2 lety +13

    Fun fact: printer ink is more expensive than human blood

  • @Dong_Harvey
    @Dong_Harvey Před 2 lety +13

    "It's really difficult to reach around and just plugin your stuff."
    Don't worry, we still love you.

  • @vanlaar2655
    @vanlaar2655 Před 2 lety +1

    15" version 1440p panel has a mux switch, so good!

  • @blobhead7
    @blobhead7 Před 2 lety

    how do you distinguish the difference between normal copper plates and vapor chambers?

  • @BurntFaceMan
    @BurntFaceMan Před 2 lety +4

    $3600 for a laptop. and $500 for a warranty upgrade you never asked for, didn't want and will probably never need...That's a nice $5K laptop.
    (I included the extra other hidden charges..)

  • @CheapBastard1988
    @CheapBastard1988 Před 2 lety +4

    I really can't get over how very thin Samsung tablets have awesome sound and many laptops can't even get close. Now that I'm used to the sound of my Samsung tablet, bad speakers on a laptop are simply unacceptable to me.

    • @DrAdityaReddy
      @DrAdityaReddy Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. I don't understand why laptop makers cheap out on the speakers. My phone has better speakers than my laptop

  • @aeneis116
    @aeneis116 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if this was necessary to hit the benchmarks for energy consumption in certain marketplaces

  • @megadark12
    @megadark12 Před 2 lety +1

    When will the test of Lenovo's Legion 7 come out?

  • @countfrackula6707
    @countfrackula6707 Před 2 lety +16

    Shit like this is why I, as a tech professional, say that AlienWare is overpriced crap. After the shit I've seen out of Dell recently, I won't ever be buying a Dell again in a long time.

    • @Belshazzaresque
      @Belshazzaresque Před 2 lety +6

      you're about 10 years late but welcome to the club

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, still 4k over a god damn GTX 1080. And 7th gen i7.

  • @Sam_995
    @Sam_995 Před 2 lety +7

    I’ve seen way cooler laptops than that. The laptops I saw were wearing sunglasses

  • @bobsyouruncle8966
    @bobsyouruncle8966 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking forward to the Eluktronics review!

  • @thelegalsystem
    @thelegalsystem Před 2 lety

    Those heat pipes were so impressive, they brought out a genuine "Frig"

  • @c4sualcycl0ps48
    @c4sualcycl0ps48 Před 2 lety +3

    Wasn’t Dell going to commit to supporting swappable Graphics cards in Alienware laptops via something like MXM?

    • @jaylen11000
      @jaylen11000 Před 2 lety

      That's with the Area 51m line. Those laptops use desktop grade components and is the reason why they're replaceable. It's hardly a laptop thanks to it's size and weight and that's where this guy comes in.

    • @c4sualcycl0ps48
      @c4sualcycl0ps48 Před 2 lety

      @@jaylen11000 had Dell provided new components for that chassis? Those debuted with 20-series GPUs and 9th gen Intel processors. If not, looks like another attempt at desktop-level upgradability in laptops has failed.

    • @jaylen11000
      @jaylen11000 Před 2 lety

      @@c4sualcycl0ps48 I do believe that they updated the CPUs to 10th gen, but I don't think we've gotten RTX 30 cards in them yet

  • @PSP1S0
    @PSP1S0 Před 2 lety +3

    Well you pay for the Alienware badge

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 Před 2 lety +2

    TIME STAMP: 10:45 Love the Honesty and the shot across Intel's Bow.. I own Intel stuff but truthfully Intel does have to throw a lot more power at their chips to keep them in the same Ballpark..

  • @alanleuthard2689
    @alanleuthard2689 Před 2 lety

    Had a 2015 Dell Precision and replaced it recently with a 2021 model. Huge increase in performance. Huge decrease in fan noise. 8 to 12 hours per day of heavy CAD work and I've yet to hear the fans turn on. Previous model had 1/2 the power and never used it with the fans off. Dell figured out something about cooling laptops recently.

  • @RDR911
    @RDR911 Před 2 lety +4

    “You know what never underperforms?”
    The skip button.

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Před 2 lety +6

    It was like Michael Dell--in the early days of Dell--walked into R&D, brought a baseball bat down on a desk hard enough to break it, and said "Make it dead easy to service. Am I clear or do I need to bring in a new bat and perform percussive maintenance?" then mounted the broken bat on the wall for all to see. ...and I have rarely found a challenge to that in the last twenty-plus years.
    (I once had to replace the screen on a second-hand laptop that was *STILL* covered by them under their 'CompleteCare' warranty even though the policy was under the old owner's name and it was couriered to me ASAP, complete with a shipping label in the package to send the old one back. I followed the step-by-step instructions that they provided me and had it done in a snap. What happened to the laptop? #1 son fell asleep with it on his bed and it fell off. That wasn't an issue until #2 son woke up in the middle of the night and stepped on the screen. Dell's response? No problem. They said that they would even send a tech TO MY HOUSE the next day to fix it for me. Whoa! Colour me a fanboy!)

  • @HedgehogY2K
    @HedgehogY2K Před 2 lety +1

    I have a problem. I performed a clean install of Windows 7 64 bit on my P650RP NP8152 laptop. Windows Startup freezes, I'm unsure what that's about but I can't boot the system due to the freezing.

  • @JDizon849
    @JDizon849 Před 2 lety +2

    9:45 Wait a minute, do all LMG employees have their own assigned iFixit kits? That's amazing

  • @sanobet882
    @sanobet882 Před 2 lety +3

    I feel like legion 7 is heart broken right now with a little bit of crying

  • @karan3952
    @karan3952 Před 2 lety +3

    can some one suggest a laptop that can do light gaming/collage work/ editing under 1200 $

    • @karan3952
      @karan3952 Před 2 lety

      @Not RickRoII👇😍 ya if it was 2017 buddy nice try

    • @faber3969
      @faber3969 Před 2 lety

      Legion 5 from Microcenter. It's easily the best laptop you can buy right now in that price range.

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 Před 2 lety

      @@faber3969 Does it has RTX 30 series?

    • @faber3969
      @faber3969 Před 2 lety +1

      @@killertruth186 Yes it has a RTX 3060

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 Před 2 lety

    Might be able to switch a connector or create a mod. If it’s just a encoded data line, it should be possible or easy to tap off it

  • @jiaxuanxie63
    @jiaxuanxie63 Před 2 lety

    Legion 7i OOTB driver has issue that 3080 lock to 115W (even with performance mode enabled). My latest driver TS graphics score is 1500+ higher than the bar chart shown in the video

  • @remotepinecone
    @remotepinecone Před 2 lety +18

    Lenovo even out RGBed alienware. That was like the one thing Alienware was good at!

    • @austinswanson
      @austinswanson Před 2 lety +2

      I have the Lenovo 7i… even with just a 2070 mine can run Cyberpunk on the highest possible settings. I never have to worry about if a game will run or not.

  • @MeowThingy
    @MeowThingy Před 2 lety +5

    Did you get the on-site extended plus pro deluxe warranty package with the super Dell financing subscription? You really need that to get the most out of this computer.

  • @theguard1
    @theguard1 Před 2 lety

    Got the Legion 7i with 3070 and it is absolutely wonderful! Pros over the X17: cost, more ports, numpad, non-inverted MOBO, 2k display, same thermals. Only con: no SD card slot.

  • @mrbrad4637
    @mrbrad4637 Před 2 lety +1

    No numpad was one of the reasons I went for the Dell G15 Ryzen Gaming Edition 5800h and 130w 3060 over the equivalent Alienware... I use it for business mainly excel and I play ms flight simulator 2020, along with emulators so a numpad is a must.. I love the Dell G15

  • @jonahthrane812
    @jonahthrane812 Před 2 lety +10

    After looking at laptops like these inside, always leads me to think why can't we make smaller desktops? Make a detachable version of the cooling system for laptops, and make the CPU exchangeable, and make the GPU its own seperate card so it's also replaceable and upgradeable. Then you'd be able to have a slim minimalist desktop pc. I know not all of you want that, but some of us do.

  • @Spacecor3
    @Spacecor3 Před 2 lety +15

    although the trackpad is smaller its not like your gonna play games with a trackpad your always better off with a separate mouse

    • @Diapolo10
      @Diapolo10 Před 2 lety

      Aye.

    • @yuna670
      @yuna670 Před 2 lety

      *AISURU.TOKYO/asuna?[Making-Love]* 💞
      (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
      CZcams: This is fine
      Someone: Says "heck"
      CZcams: Be gone
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

    • @killertruth186
      @killertruth186 Před 2 lety

      Some gaming laptops has decent trackpads enough that you can actually game on. But I always preferred to use my wireless mouse.

  • @starwarssith
    @starwarssith Před 2 lety

    Alex sneaking in that Crab rave in from Short Circuit

  • @tylerchambliss8379
    @tylerchambliss8379 Před 2 lety

    I just bought an m17r4 back in september, and it's arriving tomorrow, am I missing anything? It's got the rx3060, 32 gigs of ram, and 2 2 tb ssds in rade0. I'm mad they removed the numbpad in the x17 though.

  • @LegitPick
    @LegitPick Před 2 lety +3

    What do you expect? Dell is into the next level!

    • @yuna670
      @yuna670 Před 2 lety

      *AISURU.TOKYO/asuna?[Making-Love]* 💞
      (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
      CZcams: This is fine
      Someone: Says "heck"
      CZcams: Be gone
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

  • @NotaBeast
    @NotaBeast Před 2 lety +12

    For those who are wondering: When added all together, the Harry Potter books contain 1,084,171 words.

    • @lIIest
      @lIIest Před 2 lety

      i think you are off by 1

  • @brando3342
    @brando3342 Před 2 lety +1

    Can someone help me?
    Should my PC be boosting to exactly 4.5ghz if that's what it is set for or is 4.492ghz a reasonable boost for a CPU rated for 4.5?

  • @arthurmint
    @arthurmint Před 2 lety

    Alex couldn't resist a bit of crab rave could he?

  • @VRJacky
    @VRJacky Před 2 lety +8

    you never appreciate cooling until your in a quiet classroom on google docs and then the fans ramp up for no reason like they do on every ASUS laptop

    • @-Burb
      @-Burb Před 2 lety

      I’ve had 3 asus laptops since 2010 and they’ve all been super quiet. Loud fan noise was the main reason I got rid of my old Razer Blade and went back to asus.

  • @Juanthepanda
    @Juanthepanda Před 2 lety +4

    The flaw is it's not a framework

  • @Cerberus-ot2gl
    @Cerberus-ot2gl Před 2 lety

    So everything has to go through the IGPU, and as the dell xps 7950 1080p has shown, be blurry somehow. Why would dell not fix this? Or have I missed some magicl technology that fixes it?

  • @Danope24
    @Danope24 Před 2 lety +1

    Guys. I have an x17 and got the new bios, how do I enable the MUX switch? The only thing it says here is Enable Hybrid Graphics, and it’s already Enabled… does this mean I’m good? Or do I disable Hybrid Graphics