Yes you have the right to criticise my understanding of god and my way of life, but not god. You have the right to define god so do I. If you accept in existence of god or concept of god. Then it’s worth discussing. Do you believe in god?
@@shumonchoudhury9957 I have the God given right to criticise any worldview I like. I have the right to criticise your God and the claims he makes. Didnt Mohammad criticise the Arab gods - so why not his God?
@@shumonchoudhury9957 said: Does that mean you believe in god ............. I believe in Yahweh/YHWH the true God of Abraham. I sure don't believe in Allah the pre-Islamic pagan God of Mohammad.
she kind of right on the uk police situation but she left out the part where Muslims started rioting ish and promised to smash up stuff outside a police station shouting allah albka and there were many of them. reason why it gets linked to Islam is the lack of respect for UK laws and time and time again it happens. there been a couple of riots linked to them recently as well
Re. Protests in Manchester and Rochdale. Lots of other Muslims joined in and fuelled the “ victimised Muslims” and “victimised Islam “narrative: they themselves make it a Muslim thing.
Surah At-Tawbah (9:29):"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." so the problem is with islam
Problem is not Islam or Muslims It’s your understanding of Islam and Muslim. I’m philosophically discussing god and concept of god. You give me verse of the Quran. First accept in the existence of god then we can move on to divinity and Devine scriptures.
@@shumonchoudhury9957 Believe your fairytale if you want, it's utter nonsense. If you belive that nonsense why are you watching this channel. If you believe your God is all knowing, then please why do you care, let your God handle it.
@shumonchoudhury9957 Wrong, God is my Father and rabbi. My Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem decades ago. God spoke fifty sentences to me from above over nine years' time. ) The guru of Mohammad was Satan. Unlike Muhammad of Mecca, I can describe God's voice. Islamic Jihad is anathema to God and life. I am embarrassed for you. I will pray for you in Hebrew.
Dawah guys are not talking things on their own. Exmuslims are not talking on their own. Both source their views from THE BOOK. Dawah guys are following it and defending it. Exmuslims are showing things written in it to the world.
@@AmmonRa-wm5kc yeah and And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e., worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. -SURAH 8:39, THE NOBLE QURAN used by their scholars to sanction offensive jihad... Ramadan Al-Bouti (1929-2013); Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966) and Ibn Khaldun - medieval scholar According to Islam and Terrorism by Mark Gabriel (former lecturer in islamic history in top university in Egypt)
So good to see you on here! It was fascinating to hear about your reaction to learning about undiscovered Islamic lessons and truths, thanks for sharing. Hope you and your family are well and safe. Support to you on your journey!
If you have doubts check Christian prince he speaks Arabic and will give you clarity on your doubts. But I also think your too liberal. The more you know of Islam the more you know how dangerous it is. There world still has harmony is coz most Muslims are only professing Muslims but not practicing. For me I see Islam as a gun and Muslims as people who always carry a gun. So the point is they always have that gun and can use it at anytime. No one knows when. Aka no one knows when someone becomes a radical Muslim. Most people don't hate the person they detest the belief. So for me just check Christian prince he should clear your doubts.
RSS Chief in India once said, "If Muslims reject the three islamic idea - Small Jihad, Ummah and Kafir, then it can coexist peacefully with other religions in India"
Your grandparents hail from Bharat, the land of spiritual seekers. You will find the truth, once you visit Hindusthan. Go and visit Kerala where Christianity and Islam arrived in the beginning itself. Kerala is calling you!!!!!
Good honest conversation. Just one thing, I find that generally religious gangs (more often Islamic ones) somehow think it is their inalienable right to not to be offended and this right is somehow self-evidently moral even in context of contemporary Human Rights.
@@rossini55 I did not hear of any one yet having attempted to murder any of actors portraying Biblical characters in the show. Nor has any of the church heads (Bishops or Cardinals or Pope) have issued any religious edict against them nor has anyone yet taken Olympic Committee to court asking for an injunction. So breath easy please!
@deepsareen1 I have heard some comments to the contrary. They are probably blowhards but the rhetoric is very similar. I have received some veiled and some direct threats.
@deepsareen1 Some religious commenters and figures are demanding that "God will NOT be mocked" and called it "Unacceptable" and that it must be stopped or mentioning 'what would muslims do, they wouldn't stand for this!" They know that directly encouraging violence is illegal, so they use rhetoric that goads the average believer into action.
Love both of them. Love their questioning and curious mind. Many Muslims are just blind followers who do not understand the Koran. In certain parts they just go by what the mullah tells them and recite things verbally.
28:00 Lubna says those who punched the police were just stupid criminals and isn't related with them being muslims but just a few sentence earlier she was saying there was an outrage and anger in muslim community who defend their muslim brothers. Why mvslims have no issues with their crimes and their terrorism? They are very much to blame!
She said the riots in Leeds were European Romanian Christians, right away. She never watched Tousi rv but made a video defaming him. She ignored common sense that there was more to the Manchester airport story. Anything Muslims do, she denies and never adjusts her narrative after the whole story comes out.
the reason whole muslim community is blamed because when one does wrong there is whole legal team to support them and rest all community comes on road to support them never I have ever seen them condemning them . 2 muslim brother slit throat of 12 , 6 year old Hindu boy in India this year around Holi for no apparent reason and when one of muslim guy was killed and crossfire by police whole muslim community came on his last right ( janaza) .
Manchester Airport. The objections were that this case demonstrates a pervasive dynamic of this group attacking others, playing victim when resisted and then assembling violent mobs for street violence without any deliberation. You can't deny the malignant intentions of a group against the wider population, especially when it's written in black & white whilst also behaving likewise. You also can't deny the clear examples of Anarcho-Tyranny where our overlords instrumentalise bloodthirsty power-hungry tribes against the cowering majority (and minority within minority).
She's an Islam apologists. She blamed the Leeds riots on European Romanian Christians despite the videos and being told what it was about, how mostly the rioters weren't white Romanian Christians and kept calling them a slur after she said someone called her a slur. She also jumped on board the propaganda train in regards to Manchester airport. She only focused on the clipped videos Muslims kept putting out talking about police brutality and hasn't made any retraction. She attacked ex-muslim youtubers for click bait headlines and grifting meanwhile she's doing it. Plus, she's not a very nice person in the comment section and if you say anything, she rambles on about not being a people pleaser. She uses the same excuses islamists use.
@@ZM-et7zt Muhammed was not a prophet and the Quran is not the word of God. Here is why: 1. A prophet doesn't show a false way to Heaven. 2. Jesus and Muhammed showed contradictory ways to Heaven. 3. Either Jesus or Muhammed showed a false way to heaven. Either Jesus or Muhammed was not a prophet. 4. Muhammed said Jesus was a prophet, hence Muhammed is the one who was not a prophet. 5. The Quran says both were prophets. The Quran is false it is not the word of God.
@@Jnb-p7tL'chaim. A true Messenger of God doesn't lay on their death bed screaming kill the Jews, kill people. The ethos of Islam is rape, pillage kill, rape, pillage lie.
Anti-Muslim bigotry in India? Seriously? Muslims love to paint themselves at perpetual victims in every circumstance but where Hindu is the real victim then it anti-muslim bigotry. If you don’t wish to get informed about what’s happening in India, at least bring someone from India on your platform to educate yourself and your viewers. That’s all I can say respectfully as possible.
Indian ex Muslims at least have experience of Islam in India, if not knowledge of history. It is easy for a Western EM to pick up reports of random incidents from Western media where Indian origin journalists have to follow a narrative.
Exmuslims have families that are still Muslims. So don’t expect too too much honesty yet from them. Some yes you can such as Adam Seeker or Apostate Prophet. But most are still just trying to find a space right outside of Islam but still trying to protect muslims while muslims are continuing on with their atrocities all around the world. And they are not trying to find out what all muslims are doing to others. They are just trying to protect themselves from islam while also protecting muslims from the consequences of everyone finding out what islam and muslims really are :-) So exmuslims are no saviors, they are just trying to save themselves. Still, a lot better than muslims. :-)
They do wrong absolutely everywhere and when the ppl they do their graveeeee wrong to starts to defend themselves, they call it bigotry. And the whole 2 Billion of them start to parrot that. That’s their strategy everywhere. Exmuslims are not trying to expose muslims and their atrocities to all other communities. They are just trying to protect themselves from islam, while trying to protect their muslim families from the consequences of their atrocities. So let’s keep things in perspective I guess and not get too carried away expecting too much from them :-)
No there is no anti Muslim bigotry in India. There is extreme wrong going on in India against Hindus by the muslims. But who’s gonna say the truth about that? Not muslims :-)
I am regular viewer of ex Muslim sahil and Adam seeker and they never spew hatred against anyone. They only debate based on the references from islamic religious books. They turn to somebody when somebody threatens or use bad words against them or their family. She clearly never watched their channel.
@@Lubna.Candid it's not your fault that you cannot understand Indian audiences. Sahil used to cover his face while doing stream and then he was threatened for his life by a Pakistani Maulana online (Mufti Fazal hamdard) then he had to temporarily close his channel and move to a safer location before starting live streaming again. Because of him i did know about the ex Muslim community.
What? Doesn’t the book say it’s okay to beat (gently) the wife if she doesn’t listen? In other words, this is not a culture problem, it’s the book problem.
To the best of my knowledge, no Muslim of stature has criticized FGM. So Islam seems be tacitly supporting more so because this FGM is mostly practiced in Islamic countries in the northern part of Africa such as Somalia, Egypt etc.
There is a small islamic country in west africa that recently lost the bid to reverse the law against GFM. I dont remember the name.but if you google you might find it. The point here is that it was banned because society in general thought it a good thing to ban it... then later same society says, lets reverse it . its abad thing to have it... again
I'm glad Friendly Ex Muslim clarified that FGM is not an African thing. The part of Africa where I come from which is like 98% non Muslim has no FGM at all. We have our problems but FGM is not one of them.
It a cultural thing. While most cultures dropped the practice over time, Islamic countries in Africa still struggle with it. FGM sits well with Islam cause the whole idea is to reduce a woman’s sexual need.
@@jacstvofficial4490it’s is predominantly an Islamic-African phenomenon . It’s originated from a Hadith that isn’t da’if. CP has already shown this Hadith.
@@jacstvofficial4490Yep. Menn will say their 'needs' are Godd made and given but that same godd that made womenn's the way they are needs menn to fix God's creation🥴
Lubna, the only Muslims that you can trust are the ex-Muslims as they really comprehend /understand the meaning and tell the truth about the scriptures of the Quran. Keep up the good work Friendly Exmuslim and Lubna so that the spread of Islamic fundamentalists will not proceed towards the fight concerning Islamic Jihadism. 😀✌
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 thats not true of Mark Gabriel who wrote Islam and Terrorism, he was an Imam and former lecturer in Islamic history at a top egyptian university...
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 the problem is that current muslims lie through their teeth, ive experienced it first hand many times, you really have to know about Islam to refute them.. I hope you are not one of them.. what is a religion doing anyway that says you can lie to further it... you hve to be deceived yourself to believe that... Jesus said that Satan is the father of liars and murderers... John 8:44 God is light, there is no darkness in Him, He does not lie...
In India muslims comes to ex muslim channel and threathen them to chop off, but Ex muslim Sahil never said hate muslims or he is associate with any Hindu gang, he says Islam is problem and muslim are victims.
She doesn’t disagree with what those ex Muslim You Tubers are saying, she just doesn’t like the words they use to say it. I’ve watched a fair bit of Lubna’s channel and this is a common theme of her videos. She is constantly telling people to be civil and respect each other. She seems to be one of those people who regard being nice - rather than telling the truth or doing the right thing - as the supreme moral duty. Therefore she is pained when people like Apostate Prophet just say what they believe. She seems reluctant to admit that social conflicts within society exist because people have fundamentally different beliefs and that these social conflicts cannot be solved simply by people being nice to each other. For instance, there are Muslims in Britain who wish to impose Islamic blasphemy laws on the native population and most of the native population does not want this. This is not a problem we can resolve by being nice to each other. It is a conflict which one side must win. On the other hand, she is outspoken on some issues so she is prepared to put aside her preoccupation with niceness if she feels strongly about something.
@Lubna, @Sameer Good discussion. Though it felt a little extempore. I'm from India. I'm agnostic Hindu. I had traumatic experiences from my Muslims friends and Converted Christian relatives. So some of those biases and first hand experience perspectives will be part of my opinions. I agree that ExMuslim Sahil's approach feels aggressive and confrontative. If someone was doing the same against Hindu (which many do) faith.. I too will get riled up.. even though I'm agnostic. So, I can definitely understand how a Muslim would feel listening to the discussion on his channel. And some of the comments are vile and uncivilized. But I wish to share some context based on lived experiences of myself and many people that I know personally. 1. Muslims are only technical a minority in India, but not in practical terms. We have 200+ million Muslims in India. India has 3rd highest Muslim population in the world. It's inaccurate to call them minority in practical terms. They have a lot of street veto. What they lack in direct political representation, they over compensate with street protest power and vote bank politics by almost all political parties. All political parties pander to so-called minority vote. Because majority of Muslims vote as a block. For example, in the last national elections.. surveys suggest 95%+ consolidation of Muslim vote against BJP (the so-called Hindutva party). On the other hand, BJP party got less than 50% of so-called Hindu vote - overall. No one dares to offend Muslims in India beyond a point, for the safety of their life. There are 100s of killings for even minor critique of Islam and dozens of major communal riots since Indian independence. We have suffered 100s of Islamic terror bomb attacks killing innocent people.. targeting busy shopping areas, temples and other non-muslim communities. The last major one is 26/11 Mumbai attacks. This situation is changing only recently after BJP came to power. The critique of faith which is inherent in other Indian faiths has only started in Muslim community in India recently. Thanks to the ExMuslims like Sahil. In my view, Sahil is the biggest Islamic reformer in India and the world - by the sheer volume of Muslims he is able to reach out to. He is putting his life in extreme danger on a day to day basis. What he earns is pennies through YoutTube. He can't have a normal life. He has to live in hiding for his whole life. He can't do a normal job. He will be un-alived in days, if he is not careful. That's how serious is his situation. You can assume that India has so-called Hindu majoritarian govt, and he will get protection. But that does not guarantee safety on streets to non Muslims or Ex Muslims. He is putting his life on line on a daily basis to spread the duplicity, hypocrisy and misogynistic elements of Islam. Just like many people from all other faiths do. We can all criticize him for his language and tone, or that of his supporters', but we should also protect him and support him, the best we could. 2. Also plz note that there are 400 million Muslims in our 2 neighboring countries carved out of India. That's 600 million Muslims. 99% of these Muslims were primarily Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains just a few generations before. A lot of them were converted by non peaceful means. Also, non Muslims were treated as second class citizens in their home country for centuries. Their temples were destroyed, they were taxed heavily and were subjected to many atrocities. Most of these temples are still mosques or Waqf owned lands. Result is two-fold -> 600 million Muslims in Indian subcontinent who have an identity crisis post independence. They deny their Hindu heritage, and clamor for Arabic or middle Eastern heritage. In their mind, they are neither here nor there. This creates an environment for a weird supremacist (we ruled you for 800 years) and victimhood (we are the minority) mentality at the same time. This severely skews their outlook. A majority of Indian Muslims tend to self isolate and form little communities (so called ghettos) to retain their conservative Islamic values and customs. Most of these areas are No Go zones for non Muslims. Normal secular laws dont apply here, unless one of the party reaches out to the government or judiciary. You will be surprised to know that Triple Talaq was legal for Muslims in India until very recently. Even now, they have very unfair and misogynistic inheritance laws. 3. For centuries and even now, many Muslims follow aggressive Dawah - they try to spread Islam by very aggressive means. They directly attack a non Muslim's theology and gods in very vile and personal manner. Christian evangelicals in India follow more subdued and manipulative means. Both believe Hindus are non believers and need to be dealt with - one with contempt, the other with pity. Tell me how this aggressive and manipulative conversion would impact psyche of an average Hindu... Especially when it's happening for centuries and is ongoing even now. Many non-muslims get caught by surprise by the aggression and vileness of the theological attack. Because for an average Hindu, there is no concept of false god. There is no concept of infinitely lopsided reward or punishment for belief or non-belief in a specific god. But when he is attacked by calling his gods as demonic and that they will rot in eternal hell - most of Hindus dont know how to react. They are simply unequipped. They don't have a retort or a solid counter argument. That's where ExMuslim channels come into place. These ExMuslims are the first ever public confession of the anti-Hindu hate, bigotry and hate ingrained in many Indian Muslim communities. These are first hand accounts of how a Muslim kid is brainwashed from his/her childhood to believe in their theological supremacy and othering of non-muslim faiths. These ExMuslim voices are the first major validation to how strong is the Kafir ideology in Indian Muslim communities. They are also the source for counter arguments against Islamic Dawah, Grooming gangs (Love Jihad) and other manipulative methods used to convert non-muslims. That's why you are seeing so much patronage from Hindus for these exmuslim channels in India. For most secular Hindus, who for their lifetime denied or simply unaware of the kafir ideology in Islam, these exmuslims channels are eye openers. 4. Most Hnidus do not know or understand the concept of abrahamic gods and the inherent non-tolerance and exclusivist underpinnings. They simply don't know that a practicing Christian or Muslim can not validate or entertain the existence of an alternative explanation to the reality. So, all those Hindus callout and demonize those Hindus who criticize the predatory and intolerant aspects of Islam and Muslims. Just like the woke lefties in the worlds, they just operate at surface level or at an altruistic level. These are the O.G wokies, even before west knew about wokism. That's why you see so much literature coming out of India from Hindus themselves against ExMuslims and the Hindus who support ExMuslims. 5. Also, most Ex-Muslims in India do not have the linguistic eloquence to put across their point strongly but in a very measured and civil manner. This is the general pattern you would see in all kinds of discourse in India, from media to academia. Unlike leftists and activists, most of the conservatives dont have mastery over language or history. So they come across as more crude and aggressive than they truly are in real life. I have so much more to say. But I'll just stop here. I just wanted to provide some more context into the realities surrounding ExMuslim movement in India.
What a good quality comment, thank you for taking your time to clarify all these things to us who don't necessarily know all the details of the situation in India. Greetings from Belgrade Serbia 💜
I do sigritism (unite all peaceful philosophies) Socrates logic, Buddhas wisdom who realized that it is impossible for who wasn't Indian can understand the lessons from the adventures of Hindu stories and he offered the essence only,.. Jesus who stepped out of his comfort zone to correctly explain the ancient writings of the Jews, where the wonder for the Jews Abraham, (for discovering the 1 god,) fails the test of love (like most of the heroes of the Bible ) &to defend his child, as he returns to the old practices of his grandfathers, as soon as he is afraid....the same story is made a tool of manipulation by Mo, as blind obedience without rational feeling becomes the great celebration example of obedience, and the cowardly Abraham.. .a hero to be emulated !... finally all religions lead the believer from self-criticism to self-knowledge for the purpose of bliss, vs Islam which with self-justification educates the subjugated to permanent immaturity as self-justification makes them blame =women , black dogs ,jinn, apostates ,infidels, atheists, idolaters gays ,christians, jews ...) islam is not a religion.....
Lubna, you did say that there was something wrong with ex-muslims making money and that they were toxic. She does no research, she doesn't even look. She bases her opinion of her news feed which is based on her own personal algorithm. She gets fed the trash that's on toxic Muslim tik toks.
Lubna’s like any other Pakistani Muslim has issues against Hinduism ! She is sitting on the fence for her safety but has cheek to talk about Sahil etc who face real threats from muslins !
She might be Candid, but she doesn't let people be critical and CANDID in her chat... I will probably be deleted her also, but it really urks me each time some muslim defender lies to her and all critical thinking goes out of her head and she smiles, lights up and are so happy. Just stay a muslim Lubna, live the lie that your heart desires.
this is a really unkind comment 'mads5000' you sound like someone who is attacking the person because actually you have no argument - that is typical - you are showing your true colours...
@@JuliexSteadman I'm sorry but as you probably can see English is not my native language... I really don't understand you comment: "this is a really unkind comment 'mads5000' you sound like someone who is attacking the person because actually you have no argument - that is typical - you are showing your true colours..." But for me the two arguments I make is pretty clear, she deletes CANDID, critical comments. And lights up in joy if someone tells her a "positive" lie about Islam like Aisha wasn't 9 when she was r...d by the perfect man, no she was 21 or something like that. And for my color... That is just you that attacking me with no actual argument as wrongly accuse me of... Think about it and be more careful with your words. Have a nice weekend Julie Steadman☺☺
@@Lubna.Candid Then keep your journey private, but if you have chosen to come on the social media then be prepared for observations and even criticism!
@@Sky-wm2mc your comment: "Then keep your journey private, but if you have chosen to come on the social media then be prepared for observations and even criticism!" no, why should she. she is a brave woman who is choosing to think out loud... its ok if your criticism is fair and you criticise the argument rather than the person but you are not doing that...
It's wonderful to have these discussions. As someone who was raised as a Christian but became an atheist after much research and questioning, I've wondered how Islam has so many followers given the preachings. The adage applies - ignorance is bliss but when we learn better we can't go back.
Have you a copy of 'The Reliance of the Traveller'? This is the official sharia jurisprudence law, You referenced Jordanian law being an anomaly allowing 'honor killing'. According to the referenced manual, honor killing is allowed. You can download a copy, it is in English and Arabic.
Reliance of Traveller is not the Core Islamic book. It was made way back and most of the things are not clear. Also "Honor Killing" is not in Islam and prophet Muhammad strictly prohibited it.
@@sudan2 it's in all madhabs they just differ slightly. Best person to check with is Lloyd de Jongh. And as muqallids ( lay Muslims) the rulings of mujtahid imams ars binding on them.
To Lubna, FGM is done un 98% of muslim girls in Indonesia. They don't cut everything off, just a part of clitoris but the intent os the same. It is NOT the local tradition. This practice comes from islam, only Indonesian muslims do that. Btw, it has the largest number of muslims of any country in the world, they are NOT a minority.
@refoizudeenmaricar3962 Its from fiqh books because it's sunnah - a lady came and asked him about it and he said not to remove too much or something like that. Indonesia didn't have this cultural practice. They do fgm because of following Shafi madhab
@@Lubna.Candid Please listen to your videos yourself Lubna. You are always ashamed, hurt, shocked, etc. by the behaviour of muslims. In your talks, you never mention that the cause of those behaviour is the book and the cult's history. Have you ever tried to find out the cause, the reason for this. Simple....Every human has drawbacks....negatives. The problem with Islam and Quran is that those negatives are justified and recommended as God's will. That shut's people's brain. One has no escape. This cult was an invention for gaining power, nothing spiritual, not in search of ultimate liberation or enlightenment.
@@rasol-007 That is actually a warning to the Muslims and anyone to not deviate from following revelation, and the example is cited of the People of the Book and from the Polytheists who continued to rebel against reforming themselves.
Many Indonesian Muslims were shocked and just found out about the contents of the Tafsir, Hadits and other books Islamic saurces themselves, that apostasy will continue to occre, honestly I'm in Islam 30 years now I'm follower CHRIST.
Again very honest and open discussion. The best ex-muslim channel I have come across is Sachwala. I have also listened to Adam Seeker and Sahil as well. I have also listened a lot to islamic scholars, Dr Naik , Dawah groups and islamic tv channels. Listening to both sides is the best way of learning about the truth of Islaam.
yes a great book to read is Islam and terrorism by mark gabriel - former lecturer in islamic history at a top university in egypt... to get the differences between christianity and islam No God but ONe by Nebeel qureshi...
The not wanting to let go can be a huge thing as it can be scary for someone who grew up in a relatively religious family and is questioning and no one else in the family is.. and the need to feel part of the group. It's easier when you find something else thus it doesn't feel like you are jumping into a dark void of nothingness.
I agree with Lubna in regards to the collaboration to David Wood and Apostate Prophet. I have noticed it for a while that APs content changed. I liked his dry humor at first, however since the collaboration with David Wood it's toxic. A Christian mocking Islam it's not really useful anyway. It's a massive blindside that AP has to deal with which pushes doubting people away.
Quran author only recognises 6 days, Quran 41. Muhammad only recognises 7 days Sahih Muslim 2789. When the god and the prophet can't agree then what they are promoting is clearly false. 👍
I think when it comes to how we criticise religion, whether we should be mild and respectful or brash and controversial..... I think BOTH approaches are valid and effective. Sometimes, it's necessary to have shock and controversy. I remember when the Monty Python comedy film Life of Brian came out that caused outrage because it poked fun at Judaism and Christianity. Yes, it shocked people, and there was lots of anger, but it was important to a free society that it was made. We must be able to mock religion without fear. There's also a comedy play called The Book of Mormon, which mocks Mormonism relentlessly. It is advertised on busses in the train stations, on TV, and there's no controversy, no outrage.
That's because unlike atheists and agnostics point of view, no religion is the same as the other. Looking at Islam with a Christian mercy and patience is the trap that has been destroying the west. Christianity is great for social values which has been a core value of the western society, but Islam isn't
@@user-oc5ur1gy8m In fact only those in fear which is of the devil only converts and Born in the already under Satan family. When you see testimony of the former Satanist the devil attacks you when you leave him. Same with Islam.
Any rational and reasonable person should be able to see that Islam is false. The *most important things* in Islam are the daily prayers (you must do them whether you like it or not, want to or not) and dry fasting in Ramadan (again, whether you like it or not, want to or not). Why? Of all the things in the world that should be prioritised for the good of mankind, these things were chosen. Just think about it. Furthermore, modern medical science does NOT recommend dry fasting for most people.
I have something to say in defence of Robert Spencer. You said that domestic violence happens everywhere and it’s true. When a guy gets drunk and beats his wife to death, it is a problem with alcohol and antisocial behaviour. If a Muslim guy kills his wife because she wanted to go to work or remove her hijab, that is a problem with Islam. So Robert Spencer making that connection to the underlying problem is 100% right.
i think also the problem is that the quran teaches that its ok to beat your wife.. where as other people do it but its not prescribed by their religion.. Your religion should be holding back evil, not perpetrating it...
Wait what I just started watching the stream I'm fearing a take of the highest delusional order please try to soften a blow if you can is it gonna be the religion of peace 😂
@bestest1234567 I really personally have my own favourite Jihad excuse is the 'inner Jihad' I'd rather deny the whole Jihad then, because this inner Jihad is a Hamas/Hezbollah/Isis/Taliban holding a gun to a head of a Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Atheist their last bits of humanity empathy pleading them not to pull trigger because they are not muslim or are gonna convert but the strive of od glory and victorious Allah and the guy who created that cartoon character who they are always make them pull
@@Lubna.Candidas I told you Bohras were doing this FGM 😢. Nope it’s not cultural. Even circumcision is copied from Jews who copied it from Egyptians ( non believers as per any Abrahamic faith )
She is a dangerous liar, last weel she was slagging off ex-myslims as a danger and spreading hatred to islam and only in it for the cash and most are millionaires
"FGM is only praticed in Islam though. " ..this is not true. it is not taught in the quran or the hadiths, african christian groups practice it as well but its also not tuaght in the bible either... You always have to go back to the religious book to find out if its cultural or if its prescribed by the religion.
As someone once put it, " With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
#kimiyatarkashvand was an Iranian university student who has lost her l1f3 due to sh@r1@ . In the dorm she tried to c0mm1t su1c1d3 and ambulance was called but the 1sl@m1c security officers made the ambulance wait for 40 minutes so that in the meantime the other girl students could dress her " appropriately " . She lost her life as soon as she was finally brought into the ambulance . If only t3rr0r1sm was not ruling , she might have not even have a reason to t@k3 her own l1f3 . Numerous cases like this happen in Iran each day and if it is not stopped , the same monsters are coming to your lands as well . Let's speak up together . ✊🏻✌🏻 #iranrevolution
The issue for me with AP that made me UNSUB is that he started to hang out with christian nationalists which shows that he is more of anti-islam rather than an anti-religion .. one fights for reason and against superstition and the other is just racist.
...thats interesting, Apostate Prophet hang out with christian nationalists - well he isnt a christian yet i would say... christian nationalists go against Jesus statement, he refuses to let his disciples defend him at his arrest because He says that His kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36) But actually it takes a lot of faith to believe that we can change things through prayer... Main line christianity would say that our warfare is spiritual, through prayer...(Eph 6:18 below). and the first christians refused to fight for the Romans but instead they said they would pray... apparently there was 200 years of peace for the roman empire during that time, just after Christ, despite the christians themselves being martyred... Ephesians 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 👉18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
@@JuliexSteadman I get what you're saying .. Christian nationalists and muslim brotherhood has the same machiavellian approach .. they can sleep with the enemy for better PR and encounter a common enemy!!
sharia law allows a man to do honour kills and without punishment actually. how I figured it was watching nuriyah khan/ holy humanist video on sharia law with lloyd de jongh
@@shumonchoudhury9957I don’t have the book particular but on the video that’s on the comment above, will show you the books all in English and he explains how to read it like scholars do. Also think the video has a pdf link to each book as well
Never criticize ex muslim specially from india, pakistan. They have limited sources of income. No one should have have spoken about islam openly if it was not initiated by sahil, adam seeker, sameer, quranwala, sachwala.
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 Well Iin fact, many people indoctrinated in the cukt leavevuslam after reading the Koran. There's a reason for high appstasy rates, in spite of threats of violence to stop people leaving the cult. If it weren't for high birth rates amongst poorer communities that are guven a choice, uslam would be in absolute decline
Sahils channel is banned in India itself and he is not growing since last year. Can u imagine his channel getting banned if he is with Hindutwa in India? Sahil clearly says he doesn't believe in Hinduism. However he needs help of Hindus to stay alive in India bcoz without Hindu support his life will be in danger.
@@adnanrashtogi4553 I'm not a dawah guy so i don't need to lie. In his every video he says to change location from India to other country bcoz his channel is not visible in India. He had more than half million subscribers last year. It's still almost same. Atleast go and check once before making such useless comments.
Really nice to see Friendly Exmuslim and Lubna chatting and agreeing and disagreeing about different things without a fuss. I actually learnt about this livestream from Lubna's channel, kind of stopped checking Friendly Exmuslim channel Live tab, nothing new there for so long. Let's hope we'll see more livestreams like this here.
Wrong FGM is Islam and that hadith is not weak. Egypt the most populous arab country practises this. so does Somalia, Sudan, Qatar and many western african muslim countries.. bohris of India do it too.
..but the quran doesnt teach you to do FGM... and african chrisitans practice it as well, but also its cultural as the bible doesnt teach people to do this either...
Thank you for bringing on Candid with Lubna.😊 She is quite a Scholar, even though she would probably refute that. She has a Good head on her shoulders. Good conversation. I have not ever heard anything about FGM outside of Muslim communities. 🤔 But overall Good show. Thanks Again!!!😊
Don’t know if she will refute that. But I will. I was just thinking about how ignorant she is but she keeps talking, and then I saw your comment. So had to say something. I think her intentions are good tho so I do support her (for the most part). But scholar she is not even close to be close I’m afraid. But to each his own I guess. To you she might be :-)
Yes but it’s a looooong loooooong way from Islam :-). First get to exmuslim then a few other ladders and then you can get to Vedanta :-). Can’t expect ppl who are failing kindergarten and getting angry about it to start reading scholarly materials.
@@brinta19, I meant it for people who stop seeking just bcz they found out their religion is false. People just stop questioning that doesn't pertain to their religion bcz they are too scared that they'll lose belief in materialstic superstitions they hold dear.
Unfortunately if you actually believe In islam and practice it. Rights cannot be given to you. Islam when they leave it’s strange cause they can only come to the conclusion that if Islam is false then There is no god. How about Islam is just false? Muslims conclude god doesn’t exist if Islam isn’t true shows the baggage after leaving they still deal with and that Islam has power over them still.
Absolutely. The cave demon only wants to take souls from God. Ex-Muslims should look into the True Faith that the cave demon was trying taking them away from.
#rezvanehahmadkhanbeigi is an imprisoned pregnant Iranian protestor who is not allowed to seek medical attention due to the fear these ir gc t3rr0rists have of these protestors . She needs immediate medical help or else she may lose her child . Let's be their voice . #رضوانه_احمد_خان_بیگی #iranrevolution
Even if 20-30% of rice is bad is stale, people throw the whole batch of rice… discarding as SPOILED food. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ Not all the grains are moldy, but everything is definitely gotten bad and inedible.
Very interesting exchange, however you prefer your children to be model citizen and wish all the best. I find your conversation very constructive and doing a good job 👍
Islam is the one that is quite rigid. Muslims can and do reform eventually, but some others don't and double down on being fundamentalist and radical. Seems like the hadiths are the breaking point, since they have all levels of acceptance, from "none" to "yes, all of it alhamdulillah!". Muslims would be better if cherry-picking is respected and accepted. You know, freedom of speech, thought and expression.
I congratulate Lubna on her courage and energy. I love Friendly Exmuslim for his intelligence and insight and his great laugh and smile. I think he could know more about the Bible and Christianity before he critiques it. He reads too many staunch atheists. I love Apostate Aladdin for his own brand of honest analysis. He got carried away on the Middle East and lost his cool. This is forgivable and we forgive him and the other duo also has forgiven him. (Forgiveness is a great thing). He also does not know Christianity and presumes to comment on it. But we love him. David Wood and AP are undisputed kings of the analysis and creativity. And AP is the APple 🍎 of my eye, as a fellow ex-German living in North America. He is very smart and works very hard. Also, even as an atheist, when he talks about Christianity, he understands the connection to Islam and analyzes correctly. Lubna may find it jarring on her sensibilities, but she has a way to go still. It seems to me that even as a Christian I know quite a lot more about the Quran than she does. Like AP with a German grammar school education we have learned to do our homework thoroughly. Someone like Spencer should not be critiqued for listing atrocities nobody else dares to enumerate and high-light. All of you and others not mentioned above are loved and prayed for. The truth would not come out without you. You are very brave and we are in awe of you.
@@FriendlyExmuslimwhat about you and all men like us who were circumcised after birth😂? You don’t criticise this thing but only for women is a problem 😟. Who asked us if we wanted to have circumcision or not ? 😮
I concur with Lubna’s assessment that Apostate Prophet, the Turkish guy, demonstrates a troubling bias. As an ex-Muslim of non-Arab origin, I am in support of Israel’s right to exist and thrive. I believe they have the right to define their identity, protect their land, and defend themselves against adversaries, particularly Islamist groups seeking to undermine their existence. I also support the right of those who identify as Palestinians to live peacefully alongside Israel and to have a dignified existence. Apostate Aladdin, with his Arabic background, often exhibits an emotional attachment to Arab identity, which influences his views on Palestine. While I understand his perspective, I find myself at odds with his approach because I regard Palestine as a trivial matter that does not affect me directly. Returning to Apostate Prophet - Initially, I supported his critiques of Islam and Quranic teachings, I considered it a necessary part of exposing religious ideologies - and I still do. However, his critique shifted from an ideological analysis to a broader attack on Muslims as individuals. This shift happened because he collaborated with Christian apologists like David Wood and Robert Spencer, who are known for their condescending and mocking portrayal of Muslims. David Wood’s show, “Jihad This Week,” often magnifies isolated negative incidents involving Muslims while neglecting similar issues within other communities. This selective focus distorts the broader picture and unfairly targets Muslims. Robert Spencer is the biggest bigot among them all. As much as I abhor Islam, despite its illogical and unreasonable aspects, the sugarcoated version presented by the Dawah gang, mosques, and ordinary Muslims living in the West attracts converts, many Christians. This triggers Christian apologists, who then focus on highlighting every negative aspect not just of Islam but of Muslims themselves-their backgrounds, their lives , accents, and other personal characteristics. Apostate Prophet has become an extension of this Christian apologist agenda, contributing to this biased and harmful portrayal.
I completely disagree. I think AP might be the only exmuslim who actually does not try to shield muslims from the atrocities they as a collective community is responsible for in the world. He calls it out like it is. The rest, while criticizing islam, still seem to be trying to protect muslims from the consequences of what they have been doing to the world as a collective group. And That is what is biased and not okay. Not what AP is doing.
@@brinta19 If you are a Christian on the same bandwagon as David Wood and Robert Spencer, who view Muslims as inherently evil while upholding Christianity as the ultimate path to salvation through Jesus, then you are entrenched in a profound contradiction. By denouncing Muslims in such sweeping terms, you parallel the extremism of those you criticize. Christianity, like Islam, is replete with doctrines that many would deem nonsensical. Concepts such as the virgin birth of Jesus, His resurrection, and His divine nature are as dubious as the claims of Islam. Yet, figures like David Wood often target Islam’s “low-hanging fruit” while avoiding similar scrutiny of Christianity’s equally problematic beliefs. This selective criticism reflects a deeper bias rather than a genuine commitment to rational discourse. If you adhere to any form of dogmatic belief, whether it’s Christianity or Islam, you are embracing a system fraught with contradictions and absurdities. However, if you are willing to engage openly and critically with all forms of dogma, I would be happy to have a discussion with you.
@@allahmuhammad225I would not be happy to have any discussion with any muslim if muslim is defined as following islam and Islam allows for lying. So since there is no commitment to truth, there is no point in discussing anything. Now an exmuslim (provided they actually are, and not just someone using that as yet another facade), or an agnostic or really ppl of any other religion I would be happy to have discussions with, but still not here on this platform cause there would be too many things to discuss and this place is not conducive for long discussions. That’s one.
I don’t know yet about inherently, but I do view muslims as evil yes, but not above salvation, atleast not all of them. This view is not based on coming from a Christian background but coming from my extensive knowledge and experience with Islam and muslims. But two things need to be clairified here: when I say evil, I mean anti life. And when I say muslim I mean people who are knowingly or unknowingly but willingly perpetuating or defending the teachings of islam. Under those two definitions, yes I do view muslims as evil. That’s two.
“By denouncing muslims in such sweeping terms you parallel the extremism of those you criticize” - Sounds like a good argument but it’s a fallacy. Can you see if you can figure the fallacy in that argument?
I've come across quite a number of Lubna's videos recently and I just have to say she's such a breath of fresh air and she seems so genuinely authentic (even more than some ex-Muslim CZcamsrs, no offence ahaha)!! Best of luck in your journey wherever it takes you!
When you claim that Islam is a way of life, then your life is fair game to be critiqued in the context you claim it to be.
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Yes you have the right to criticise my understanding of god and my way of life, but not god.
You have the right to define god so do I. If you accept in existence of god or concept of god. Then it’s worth discussing. Do you believe in god?
@@shumonchoudhury9957 I have the God given right to criticise any worldview I like. I have the right to criticise your God and the claims he makes. Didnt Mohammad criticise the Arab gods - so why not his God?
Does that mean you believe in god
@@shumonchoudhury9957 said: Does that mean you believe in god .............
I believe in Yahweh/YHWH the true God of Abraham. I sure don't believe in Allah the pre-Islamic pagan God of Mohammad.
Criticising islam dosnt mean we are attacking islam
Why not. You should.
Exactly!
Criticising a perfect religion.
Criticizing islam is not the same as criticizing muslims who are individuals, the ideology has its flaws and needs to be discussed about.
@@slime1592 people who use that ideology have the bigger flaws actually
she kind of right on the uk police situation but she left out the part where Muslims started rioting ish and promised to smash up stuff outside a police station shouting allah albka and there were many of them. reason why it gets linked to Islam is the lack of respect for UK laws and time and time again it happens. there been a couple of riots linked to them recently as well
Ok thanks
Re. Protests in Manchester and Rochdale. Lots of other Muslims joined in and fuelled the “ victimised Muslims” and “victimised Islam “narrative: they themselves make it a Muslim thing.
Have you seen the video of the two men assaulting the cops first?
@@womenlifefreedom2024yes
They are the most ungovernable people. They don't have respect for any modern law. Their religion just gives them a cover to do what they like.
Nothing wrong in hating an evil ideology
And fighting terrorism.
Yes. Everything Right and a Duty of All Good ppl.
But, don't forget to focus on the specific evil ideology not generalizing entire people or tradition and attacking people based on their identity
When that identity is wrapped in hattred itself, it's okay to hatte it.@@amirattamimi8765
@@amirattamimi8765 What to do with those who have EMBODIED this ideology?
Surah At-Tawbah (9:29):"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled." so the problem is with islam
Problem is not Islam or Muslims
It’s your understanding of Islam and Muslim.
I’m philosophically discussing god and concept of god. You give me verse of the Quran.
First accept in the existence of god then we can move on to divinity and Devine scriptures.
Last day? Keep joking.
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When death and judgment day comes
We’ll se who’s joking
@@shumonchoudhury9957 Believe your fairytale if you want, it's utter nonsense. If you belive that nonsense why are you watching this channel. If you believe your God is all knowing, then please why do you care, let your God handle it.
@shumonchoudhury9957 Wrong, God is my Father and rabbi. My Hebrew name Jacova is the female form of Jacob. I was born March 11th in Bethlehem decades ago. God spoke fifty sentences to me from above over nine years' time. ) The guru of Mohammad was Satan. Unlike Muhammad of Mecca, I can describe God's voice.
Islamic Jihad is anathema to God and life. I am embarrassed for you. I will pray for you in Hebrew.
Dawah guys are not talking things on their own. Exmuslims are not talking on their own. Both source their views from THE BOOK. Dawah guys are following it and defending it. Exmuslims are showing things written in it to the world.
Here are some Quran verses that scared me when I read it. 23:1-6, 70:29-30, 4:24, 33:50-52
Exactly. Facts do not care for your feelings at the end of the day
@@AmmonRa-wm5kc yeah and
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism, i.e., worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do. -SURAH 8:39, THE NOBLE QURAN
used by their scholars to sanction offensive jihad... Ramadan Al-Bouti (1929-2013); Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966) and Ibn Khaldun - medieval scholar
According to Islam and Terrorism by Mark Gabriel (former lecturer in islamic history in top university in Egypt)
Thanks for having me 🙂
So good to see you on here! It was fascinating to hear about your reaction to learning about undiscovered Islamic lessons and truths, thanks for sharing. Hope you and your family are well and safe. Support to you on your journey!
Thanks for sharing.
If you have doubts check Christian prince he speaks Arabic and will give you clarity on your doubts. But I also think your too liberal. The more you know of Islam the more you know how dangerous it is. There world still has harmony is coz most Muslims are only professing Muslims but not practicing. For me I see Islam as a gun and Muslims as people who always carry a gun. So the point is they always have that gun and can use it at anytime. No one knows when. Aka no one knows when someone becomes a radical Muslim. Most people don't hate the person they detest the belief. So for me just check Christian prince he should clear your doubts.
RSS Chief in India once said, "If Muslims reject the three islamic idea - Small Jihad, Ummah and Kafir, then it can coexist peacefully with other religions in India"
Your grandparents hail from Bharat, the land of spiritual seekers. You will find the truth, once you visit Hindusthan. Go and visit Kerala where Christianity and Islam arrived in the beginning itself. Kerala is calling you!!!!!
Good honest conversation.
Just one thing, I find that generally religious gangs (more often Islamic ones) somehow think it is their inalienable right to not to be offended and this right is somehow self-evidently moral even in context of contemporary Human Rights.
@deepsareen1 yeah just check the Christians response to a mild reference to the Last Supper paining in the Olympics opening ceremony.
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I did not hear of any one yet having attempted to murder any of actors portraying Biblical characters in the show. Nor has any of the church heads (Bishops or Cardinals or Pope) have issued any religious edict against them nor has anyone yet taken Olympic Committee to court asking for an injunction. So breath easy please!
@deepsareen1 I have heard some comments to the contrary.
They are probably blowhards but the rhetoric is very similar.
I have received some veiled and some direct threats.
@@rossini55 It is Freedom of Speech silly.
@deepsareen1 Some religious commenters and figures are demanding that "God will NOT be mocked" and called it "Unacceptable" and that it must be stopped or mentioning 'what would muslims do, they wouldn't stand for this!"
They know that directly encouraging violence is illegal, so they use rhetoric that goads the average believer into action.
Thank you for having Lubna on. More of these conversations should happen. Bravo and brava to both for facilitating this.
Love both of them. Love their questioning and curious mind. Many Muslims are just blind followers who do not understand the Koran. In certain parts they just go by what the mullah tells them and recite things verbally.
28:00 Lubna says those who punched the police were just stupid criminals and isn't related with them being muslims but just a few sentence earlier she was saying there was an outrage and anger in muslim community who defend their muslim brothers. Why mvslims have no issues with their crimes and their terrorism? They are very much to blame!
I suspect the vile attackers at Manchester Airport are Mirpuri, say no more.
She said the riots in Leeds were European Romanian Christians, right away. She never watched Tousi rv but made a video defaming him. She ignored common sense that there was more to the Manchester airport story.
Anything Muslims do, she denies and never adjusts her narrative after the whole story comes out.
Your views look biased in favor of Islam. Better to be neutral view.
the reason whole muslim community is blamed because when one does wrong there is whole legal team to support them and rest all community comes on road to support them never I have ever seen them condemning them .
2 muslim brother slit throat of 12 , 6 year old Hindu boy in India this year around Holi for no apparent reason and when one of muslim guy was killed and crossfire by police whole muslim community came on his last right ( janaza) .
@@user-xi9qj1in5m exactly. I see massive support for terrible acts but no mass condemnations.
Lubna there's a saying an honest muslim is an ex muslim.
Or an extremist.
She could just take the best of it and do with it what can be. Blanketly hating them because their Muslim is too ignorant to be logical
@@maverick7291no actually, more mus the guy is, chances are he will use more al taqqiya.
@@Trinity3in1 it's a very common thing in religions. I think the original say is about Cristian but works for Muslims to
or a persecuted Muslim.
Manchester Airport.
The objections were that this case demonstrates a pervasive dynamic of this group attacking others, playing victim when resisted and then assembling violent mobs for street violence without any deliberation.
You can't deny the malignant intentions of a group against the wider population, especially when it's written in black & white whilst also behaving likewise.
You also can't deny the clear examples of Anarcho-Tyranny where our overlords instrumentalise bloodthirsty power-hungry tribes against the cowering majority (and minority within minority).
They were romanian not Muslim
She's an Islam apologists.
She blamed the Leeds riots on European Romanian Christians despite the videos and being told what it was about, how mostly the rioters weren't white Romanian Christians and kept calling them a slur after she said someone called her a slur.
She also jumped on board the propaganda train in regards to Manchester airport. She only focused on the clipped videos Muslims kept putting out talking about police brutality and hasn't made any retraction.
She attacked ex-muslim youtubers for click bait headlines and grifting meanwhile she's doing it.
Plus, she's not a very nice person in the comment section and if you say anything, she rambles on about not being a people pleaser. She uses the same excuses islamists use.
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Muhammed was not a prophet and the Quran is not the word of God. Here is why:
1. A prophet doesn't show a false way to Heaven.
2. Jesus and Muhammed showed contradictory ways to Heaven.
3. Either Jesus or Muhammed showed a false way to heaven. Either Jesus or Muhammed was not a prophet.
4. Muhammed said Jesus was a prophet, hence Muhammed is the one who was not a prophet.
5. The Quran says both were prophets. The Quran is false it is not the word of God.
@@Jnb-p7tL'chaim. A true Messenger of God doesn't lay on their death bed screaming kill the Jews, kill people. The ethos of Islam is rape, pillage kill, rape, pillage lie.
@@ZM-et7ztManchester airport assaults including cops and Pakistani Muslims.
Anti-Muslim bigotry in India? Seriously? Muslims love to paint themselves at perpetual victims in every circumstance but where Hindu is the real victim then it anti-muslim bigotry.
If you don’t wish to get informed about what’s happening in India, at least bring someone from India on your platform to educate yourself and your viewers. That’s all I can say respectfully as possible.
Indian ex Muslims at least have experience of Islam in India, if not knowledge of history. It is easy for a Western EM to pick up reports of random incidents from Western media where Indian origin journalists have to follow a narrative.
Exmuslims have families that are still Muslims. So don’t expect too too much honesty yet from them. Some yes you can such as Adam Seeker or Apostate Prophet. But most are still just trying to find a space right outside of Islam but still trying to protect muslims while muslims are continuing on with their atrocities all around the world.
And they are not trying to find out what all muslims are doing to others. They are just trying to protect themselves from islam while also protecting muslims from the consequences of everyone finding out what islam and muslims really are :-)
So exmuslims are no saviors, they are just trying to save themselves.
Still, a lot better than muslims. :-)
Old habits die hard. And one of them is not even an ex :-)
They do wrong absolutely everywhere and when the ppl they do their graveeeee wrong to starts to defend themselves, they call it bigotry. And the whole 2 Billion of them start to parrot that.
That’s their strategy everywhere.
Exmuslims are not trying to expose muslims and their atrocities to all other communities. They are just trying to protect themselves from islam, while trying to protect their muslim families from the consequences of their atrocities.
So let’s keep things in perspective I guess and not get too carried away expecting too much from them :-)
No there is no anti Muslim bigotry in India. There is extreme wrong going on in India against Hindus by the muslims. But who’s gonna say the truth about that? Not muslims :-)
I am regular viewer of ex Muslim sahil and Adam seeker and they never spew hatred against anyone. They only debate based on the references from islamic religious books.
They turn to somebody when somebody threatens or use bad words against them or their family.
She clearly never watched their channel.
Yes I didn't even know of them before they invited me. I'm British and didn't know much about Indian channels.
She never does any research. She towing the line.
She blames everything on everyone not Muslim.
@@Lubna.Candidyes, we know you do no research.
@@Lubna.Candid it's not your fault that you cannot understand Indian audiences. Sahil used to cover his face while doing stream and then he was threatened for his life by a Pakistani Maulana online (Mufti Fazal hamdard) then he had to temporarily close his channel and move to a safer location before starting live streaming again.
Because of him i did know about the ex Muslim community.
You need to watch Muhammad Farid you
What? Doesn’t the book say it’s okay to beat (gently) the wife if she doesn’t listen? In other words, this is not a culture problem, it’s the book problem.
she very kind and all but she minimises the danger it causes "like uno terrorism and all " bruh
To the best of my knowledge, no Muslim of stature has criticized FGM. So Islam seems be tacitly supporting more so because this FGM is mostly practiced in Islamic countries in the northern part of Africa such as Somalia, Egypt etc.
FGM is extremely prevalent in Malaysia too (Asia)
There is a small islamic country in west africa that recently lost the bid to reverse the law against GFM. I dont remember the name.but if you google you might find it. The point here is that it was banned because society in general thought it a good thing to ban it... then later same society says, lets reverse it . its abad thing to have it... again
U.K.!!!😏
FGM has nothing to do with Islam and i condemn it. It is a barbaric cultural practice.
FGM is like burqa, it is only going to become more prevalent due to popularity and promotion by Muslims.
I'm glad Friendly Ex Muslim clarified that FGM is not an African thing. The part of Africa where I come from which is like 98% non Muslim has no FGM at all. We have our problems but FGM is not one of them.
Amen, good news.
It a cultural thing. While most cultures dropped the practice over time, Islamic countries in Africa still struggle with it. FGM sits well with Islam cause the whole idea is to reduce a woman’s sexual need.
@@jacstvofficial4490it’s is predominantly an Islamic-African phenomenon . It’s originated from a Hadith that isn’t da’if.
CP has already shown this Hadith.
@@jacstvofficial4490Yep. Menn will say their 'needs' are Godd made and given but that same godd that made womenn's the way they are needs menn to fix God's creation🥴
Spot on about FGM and Islam, which does the same to circumcision.. which is MGM for men and boys @El_Vanguard
Lubna, the only Muslims that you can trust are the ex-Muslims as they really comprehend /understand the meaning and tell the truth about the scriptures of the Quran. Keep up the good work Friendly Exmuslim and Lubna so that the spread of Islamic fundamentalists will not proceed towards the fight concerning Islamic Jihadism. 😀✌
Wrong. Majority of ex-Muslims do not know Islam well and their understanding of Islam is very weak. I have personal experiences in dealing with them.
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 thats not true of Mark Gabriel who wrote Islam and Terrorism, he was an Imam and former lecturer in Islamic history at a top egyptian university...
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 the problem is that current muslims lie through their teeth, ive experienced it first hand many times, you really have to know about Islam to refute them.. I hope you are not one of them..
what is a religion doing anyway that says you can lie to further it... you hve to be deceived yourself to believe that...
Jesus said that Satan is the father of liars and murderers... John 8:44
God is light, there is no darkness in Him, He does not lie...
In India muslims comes to ex muslim channel and threathen them to chop off, but Ex muslim Sahil never said hate muslims or he is associate with any Hindu gang, he says Islam is problem and muslim are victims.
Those are brainwashed fools.
Exmuslim sahil is the father of all the western exmuslims combined.......if an exmuslim single handedly countering pislam is exmuslim sahil......
She doesn’t disagree with what those ex Muslim You Tubers are saying, she just doesn’t like the words they use to say it. I’ve watched a fair bit of Lubna’s channel and this is a common theme of her videos. She is constantly telling people to be civil and respect each other. She seems to be one of those people who regard being nice - rather than telling the truth or doing the right thing - as the supreme moral duty. Therefore she is pained when people like Apostate Prophet just say what they believe. She seems reluctant to admit that social conflicts within society exist because people have fundamentally different beliefs and that these social conflicts cannot be solved simply by people being nice to each other. For instance, there are Muslims in Britain who wish to impose Islamic blasphemy laws on the native population and most of the native population does not want this. This is not a problem we can resolve by being nice to each other. It is a conflict which one side must win.
On the other hand, she is outspoken on some issues so she is prepared to put aside her preoccupation with niceness if she feels strongly about something.
Nothing wrong with encouraging people to TRY to be civil
@Lubna, @Sameer
Good discussion. Though it felt a little extempore.
I'm from India. I'm agnostic Hindu. I had traumatic experiences from my Muslims friends and Converted Christian relatives. So some of those biases and first hand experience perspectives will be part of my opinions.
I agree that ExMuslim Sahil's approach feels aggressive and confrontative. If someone was doing the same against Hindu (which many do) faith.. I too will get riled up.. even though I'm agnostic. So, I can definitely understand how a Muslim would feel listening to the discussion on his channel. And some of the comments are vile and uncivilized. But I wish to share some context based on lived experiences of myself and many people that I know personally.
1. Muslims are only technical a minority in India, but not in practical terms. We have 200+ million Muslims in India. India has 3rd highest Muslim population in the world. It's inaccurate to call them minority in practical terms. They have a lot of street veto. What they lack in direct political representation, they over compensate with street protest power and vote bank politics by almost all political parties. All political parties pander to so-called minority vote. Because majority of Muslims vote as a block. For example, in the last national elections.. surveys suggest 95%+ consolidation of Muslim vote against BJP (the so-called Hindutva party). On the other hand, BJP party got less than 50% of so-called Hindu vote - overall. No one dares to offend Muslims in India beyond a point, for the safety of their life. There are 100s of killings for even minor critique of Islam and dozens of major communal riots since Indian independence. We have suffered 100s of Islamic terror bomb attacks killing innocent people.. targeting busy shopping areas, temples and other non-muslim communities. The last major one is 26/11 Mumbai attacks. This situation is changing only recently after BJP came to power. The critique of faith which is inherent in other Indian faiths has only started in Muslim community in India recently. Thanks to the ExMuslims like Sahil. In my view, Sahil is the biggest Islamic reformer in India and the world - by the sheer volume of Muslims he is able to reach out to. He is putting his life in extreme danger on a day to day basis. What he earns is pennies through YoutTube. He can't have a normal life. He has to live in hiding for his whole life. He can't do a normal job. He will be un-alived in days, if he is not careful. That's how serious is his situation. You can assume that India has so-called Hindu majoritarian govt, and he will get protection. But that does not guarantee safety on streets to non Muslims or Ex Muslims. He is putting his life on line on a daily basis to spread the duplicity, hypocrisy and misogynistic elements of Islam. Just like many people from all other faiths do. We can all criticize him for his language and tone, or that of his supporters', but we should also protect him and support him, the best we could.
2. Also plz note that there are 400 million Muslims in our 2 neighboring countries carved out of India. That's 600 million Muslims. 99% of these Muslims were primarily Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains just a few generations before. A lot of them were converted by non peaceful means. Also, non Muslims were treated as second class citizens in their home country for centuries. Their temples were destroyed, they were taxed heavily and were subjected to many atrocities. Most of these temples are still mosques or Waqf owned lands. Result is two-fold -> 600 million Muslims in Indian subcontinent who have an identity crisis post independence. They deny their Hindu heritage, and clamor for Arabic or middle Eastern heritage. In their mind, they are neither here nor there. This creates an environment for a weird supremacist (we ruled you for 800 years) and victimhood (we are the minority) mentality at the same time. This severely skews their outlook. A majority of Indian Muslims tend to self isolate and form little communities (so called ghettos) to retain their conservative Islamic values and customs. Most of these areas are No Go zones for non Muslims. Normal secular laws dont apply here, unless one of the party reaches out to the government or judiciary. You will be surprised to know that Triple Talaq was legal for Muslims in India until very recently. Even now, they have very unfair and misogynistic inheritance laws.
3. For centuries and even now, many Muslims follow aggressive Dawah - they try to spread Islam by very aggressive means. They directly attack a non Muslim's theology and gods in very vile and personal manner. Christian evangelicals in India follow more subdued and manipulative means. Both believe Hindus are non believers and need to be dealt with - one with contempt, the other with pity. Tell me how this aggressive and manipulative conversion would impact psyche of an average Hindu... Especially when it's happening for centuries and is ongoing even now. Many non-muslims get caught by surprise by the aggression and vileness of the theological attack. Because for an average Hindu, there is no concept of false god. There is no concept of infinitely lopsided reward or punishment for belief or non-belief in a specific god. But when he is attacked by calling his gods as demonic and that they will rot in eternal hell - most of Hindus dont know how to react. They are simply unequipped. They don't have a retort or a solid counter argument. That's where ExMuslim channels come into place. These ExMuslims are the first ever public confession of the anti-Hindu hate, bigotry and hate ingrained in many Indian Muslim communities. These are first hand accounts of how a Muslim kid is brainwashed from his/her childhood to believe in their theological supremacy and othering of non-muslim faiths. These ExMuslim voices are the first major validation to how strong is the Kafir ideology in Indian Muslim communities. They are also the source for counter arguments against Islamic Dawah, Grooming gangs (Love Jihad) and other manipulative methods used to convert non-muslims. That's why you are seeing so much patronage from Hindus for these exmuslim channels in India. For most secular Hindus, who for their lifetime denied or simply unaware of the kafir ideology in Islam, these exmuslims channels are eye openers.
4. Most Hnidus do not know or understand the concept of abrahamic gods and the inherent non-tolerance and exclusivist underpinnings. They simply don't know that a practicing Christian or Muslim can not validate or entertain the existence of an alternative explanation to the reality. So, all those Hindus callout and demonize those Hindus who criticize the predatory and intolerant aspects of Islam and Muslims. Just like the woke lefties in the worlds, they just operate at surface level or at an altruistic level. These are the O.G wokies, even before west knew about wokism. That's why you see so much literature coming out of India from Hindus themselves against ExMuslims and the Hindus who support ExMuslims.
5. Also, most Ex-Muslims in India do not have the linguistic eloquence to put across their point strongly but in a very measured and civil manner. This is the general pattern you would see in all kinds of discourse in India, from media to academia. Unlike leftists and activists, most of the conservatives dont have mastery over language or history. So they come across as more crude and aggressive than they truly are in real life.
I have so much more to say. But I'll just stop here. I just wanted to provide some more context into the realities surrounding ExMuslim movement in India.
Thanks for watching
They would not understand this because they already claimed their God is true God and they only know the truth.
What a good quality comment, thank you for taking your time to clarify all these things to us who don't necessarily know all the details of the situation in India.
Greetings from Belgrade Serbia 💜
@@Lubna.Candidthey are scared to because you are creating doubts. Almost all our relatives didn’t know about concubines etc.
I do sigritism (unite all peaceful philosophies) Socrates logic, Buddhas wisdom who realized that it is impossible for who wasn't Indian can understand the lessons from the adventures of Hindu stories and he offered the essence only,.. Jesus who stepped out of his comfort zone to correctly explain the ancient writings of the Jews, where the wonder for the Jews Abraham, (for discovering the 1 god,) fails the test of love (like most of the heroes of the Bible ) &to defend his child, as he returns to the old practices of his grandfathers, as soon as he is afraid....the same story is made a tool of manipulation by Mo, as blind obedience without rational feeling becomes the great celebration example of obedience, and the cowardly Abraham.. .a hero to be emulated !... finally all religions lead the believer from self-criticism to self-knowledge for the purpose of bliss, vs Islam which with self-justification educates the subjugated to permanent immaturity as self-justification makes them blame =women , black dogs ,jinn, apostates ,infidels, atheists, idolaters gays ,christians, jews ...) islam is not a religion.....
One cannot separate out the person from the religion. As long as Islam exists, there will be no peace on earth.
Lubna, you did say that there was something wrong with ex-muslims making money and that they were toxic.
She does no research, she doesn't even look.
She bases her opinion of her news feed which is based on her own personal algorithm.
She gets fed the trash that's on toxic Muslim tik toks.
Nope, I never said its an issue. I said just running after the money with no regard to the side effects is an issue for me
been watching her channel for a while, glad to see her speaking to a knowledgeable exmuslim
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@@Lubna.Candidhey Islamic 304 I’m gonna make you my malkat yamin
Lubna’s like any other Pakistani Muslim has issues against Hinduism ! She is sitting on the fence for her safety but has cheek to talk about Sahil etc who face real threats from muslins !
She fears the violence that comes with Muslims, so I understand why she's so careful.
@@LloydChristmas-vx2wh
Read again!
She might be Candid, but she doesn't let people be critical and CANDID in her chat... I will probably be deleted her also, but it really urks me each time some muslim defender lies to her and all critical thinking goes out of her head and she smiles, lights up and are so happy. Just stay a muslim Lubna, live the lie that your heart desires.
Lol.. have no clue what you're talking about
I👏 agree 👏with your statements.👏
this is a really unkind comment 'mads5000' you sound like someone who is attacking the person because actually you have no argument - that is typical - you are showing your true colours...
@@JuliexSteadman I'm sorry but as you probably can see English is not my native language...
I really don't understand you comment:
"this is a really unkind comment 'mads5000' you sound like someone who is attacking the person because actually you have no argument - that is typical - you are showing your true colours..."
But for me the two arguments I make is pretty clear, she deletes CANDID, critical comments. And lights up in joy if someone tells her a "positive" lie about Islam like Aisha wasn't 9 when she was r...d by the perfect man, no she was 21 or something like that.
And for my color... That is just you that attacking me with no actual argument as wrongly accuse me of... Think about it and be more careful with your words.
Have a nice weekend Julie Steadman☺☺
@@JuliexSteadman So no reaction from you... Just like Lubna, are we seeing a pattern here?
She is intellectually dishonest and/or afraid to call spade a spade as after identifying so many flaws she then backtracks!
I'm on my own journey. Why should I people please
@@Lubna.Candid Then keep your journey private, but if you have chosen to come on the social media then be prepared for observations and even criticism!
@@Sky-wm2mcShe did the same backtracking with Sahil.
That is unfair. She is still trying to understand and still evaluating. Please give her more time.
@@Sky-wm2mc your comment: "Then keep your journey private, but if you have chosen to come on the social media then be prepared for observations and even criticism!"
no, why should she. she is a brave woman who is choosing to think out loud...
its ok if your criticism is fair and you criticise the argument rather than the person but you are not doing that...
So glad you both met up. It was a really nice conversation.
Thank you!
@@FriendlyExmuslim Good conversation but there are few things, which are not true about Islam in your talk. Sorry but i disagree with that.
Bravo UK and Canada really progressinig. we need much more of this. Lubna is a treasure to UK.
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Good luck, Lubna, on your spiritual journey. Keep seeking answers.
It's wonderful to have these discussions. As someone who was raised as a Christian but became an atheist after much research and questioning, I've wondered how Islam has so many followers given the preachings.
The adage applies - ignorance is bliss but when we learn better we can't go back.
Ignorance but Islam added death threats.
..why did you become an atheist...
well said.. everything build on FEAR by mohamad
Have you a copy of 'The Reliance of the Traveller'? This is the official sharia jurisprudence law,
You referenced Jordanian law being an anomaly allowing 'honor killing'. According to the referenced manual, honor killing is allowed. You can download a copy, it is in English and Arabic.
Interesting. But the problem is shafii law books are not binding to all Muslims. It's jsut one set of opinions
Reliance of Traveller is not the Core Islamic book. It was made way back and most of the things are not clear. Also "Honor Killing" is not in Islam and prophet Muhammad strictly prohibited it.
@@sudan2 it's in all madhabs they just differ slightly. Best person to check with is Lloyd de Jongh.
And as muqallids ( lay Muslims) the rulings of mujtahid imams ars binding on them.
To Lubna, FGM is done un 98% of muslim girls in Indonesia. They don't cut everything off, just a part of clitoris but the intent os the same. It is NOT the local tradition. This practice comes from islam, only Indonesian muslims do that. Btw, it has the largest number of muslims of any country in the world, they are NOT a minority.
Some African countries also practice this.
@@user-vr3gr9ex1l Shafi madhab introduced it there.
It's not from Islam it's a cultural thing
@refoizudeenmaricar3962
Its from fiqh books because it's sunnah - a lady came and asked him about it and he said not to remove too much or something like that.
Indonesia didn't have this cultural practice. They do fgm because of following Shafi madhab
@@Stardust475 where is your proof you are making it up, no one in the prophets time practiced this nor is there any hadith
Great to see you two together. I also discovered Lubna recently.I love her contents.Bem following your for 4 years Ex friendly Muslim.
Lubna always tries to justify that there is nothing wrong with Islam, its the people who follow....she is a big failure there.
Yes
I never said there is nothing wrong 🤦♀️
@@Lubna.Candid Please listen to your videos yourself Lubna. You are always ashamed, hurt, shocked, etc. by the behaviour of muslims. In your talks, you never mention that the cause of those behaviour is the book and the cult's history. Have you ever tried to find out the cause, the reason for this. Simple....Every human has drawbacks....negatives. The problem with Islam and Quran is that those negatives are justified and recommended as God's will. That shut's people's brain. One has no escape. This cult was an invention for gaining power, nothing spiritual, not in search of ultimate liberation or enlightenment.
@@Lubna.Candid
How do you think about surah 98:6??
Is it fair to other people?
I don't think you'd answer my questions 😛
@@rasol-007 That is actually a warning to the Muslims and anyone to not deviate from following revelation, and the example is cited of the People of the Book and from the Polytheists who continued to rebel against reforming themselves.
She's still defending Muslims even if they are doing criminal things. Long way to go.
When did I defend Muslims for criminal activity? False allegation 🤦♀️
Many Indonesian Muslims were shocked and just found out about the contents of the Tafsir, Hadits and other books Islamic saurces themselves, that apostasy will continue to occre, honestly I'm in Islam 30 years now I'm follower CHRIST.
Again very honest and open discussion.
The best ex-muslim channel I have come across is Sachwala. I have also listened to Adam Seeker and Sahil as well.
I have also listened a lot to islamic scholars, Dr Naik , Dawah groups and islamic tv channels. Listening to both sides is the best way of learning about the truth of Islaam.
yes a great book to read is Islam and terrorism by mark gabriel - former lecturer in islamic history at a top university in egypt...
to get the differences between christianity and islam No God but ONe by Nebeel qureshi...
The not wanting to let go can be a huge thing as it can be scary for someone who grew up in a relatively religious family and is questioning and no one else in the family is.. and the need to feel part of the group. It's easier when you find something else thus it doesn't feel like you are jumping into a dark void of nothingness.
I agree with Lubna in regards to the collaboration to David Wood and Apostate Prophet. I have noticed it for a while that APs content changed. I liked his dry humor at first, however since the collaboration with David Wood it's toxic. A Christian mocking Islam it's not really useful anyway. It's a massive blindside that AP has to deal with which pushes doubting people away.
They have to deal with the facts on the sources they cite
Quran author only recognises 6 days, Quran 41.
Muhammad only recognises 7 days Sahih Muslim 2789.
When the god and the prophet can't agree then what they are promoting is clearly false. 👍
@@lahleholivia7398 what Aya in surah 41?
@@feduntu 9-12.
Wow I didn't know that 🤯
And the Islamic calendar doesn’t even measure time! What use is it? None.
I think when it comes to how we criticise religion, whether we should be mild and respectful or brash and controversial..... I think BOTH approaches are valid and effective.
Sometimes, it's necessary to have shock and controversy.
I remember when the Monty Python comedy film Life of Brian came out that caused outrage because it poked fun at Judaism and Christianity. Yes, it shocked people, and there was lots of anger, but it was important to a free society that it was made.
We must be able to mock religion without fear.
There's also a comedy play called The Book of Mormon, which mocks Mormonism relentlessly. It is advertised on busses in the train stations, on TV, and there's no controversy, no outrage.
That's because unlike atheists and agnostics point of view, no religion is the same as the other. Looking at Islam with a Christian mercy and patience is the trap that has been destroying the west. Christianity is great for social values which has been a core value of the western society, but Islam isn't
Sahih Muslim 146: Islam will crawel back,just as a snake crawels back into its hole.
Where else have we seen a snake?
Eden in the bible in book Genesis and job.
@@blawrencesuper9944 oh yes so Islam is liked to Satan. Interesting.
@@blawrencesuper9944 Islam. Snake. Satan. Interesting.
@@user-oc5ur1gy8m In fact only those in fear which is of the devil only converts and Born in the already under Satan family. When you see testimony of the former Satanist the devil attacks you when you leave him. Same with Islam.
Exmuslim sahil is the biggest CZcamsr.....so don't compare him with the minnows western exmuslims...😂😂😂
Sahil is the most clear about his work and he is giving all answers very logically.ask him questions where you are not clear
Good one both of you you❤
Lubna’s social views are very good
Thanks ❤
Any rational and reasonable person should be able to see that Islam is false. The *most important things* in Islam are the daily prayers (you must do them whether you like it or not, want to or not) and dry fasting in Ramadan (again, whether you like it or not, want to or not). Why? Of all the things in the world that should be prioritised for the good of mankind, these things were chosen. Just think about it. Furthermore, modern medical science does NOT recommend dry fasting for most people.
Rational reasonable and HONEST. It’s that last requirement where they all fail
It's not fasting when majority gorge themselves at sunset
Jesus Christ prayed and fasted in the same way as Muslims do, so what do you think about him? Is he also in the same line as par your comment above?
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 Jesus prayed to the Kaaba and said the Shahada?
@@PP_Derrick Do you have any credible proof of how Jesus prayed? ANSWER: NO. Read your own Bible first.
Do Ali Dawah and Mohammed Hijab also get de-monitised? I think their content is equally as controversial as Apostate Prophet.
I have something to say in defence of Robert Spencer. You said that domestic violence happens everywhere and it’s true. When a guy gets drunk and beats his wife to death, it is a problem with alcohol and antisocial behaviour. If a Muslim guy kills his wife because she wanted to go to work or remove her hijab, that is a problem with Islam. So Robert Spencer making that connection to the underlying problem is 100% right.
i think also the problem is that the quran teaches that its ok to beat your wife..
where as other people do it but its not prescribed by their religion..
Your religion should be holding back evil, not perpetrating it...
It is always great to listen to Lubna. Thank you so much for speaking with her. Just such a simple voice of reason.
She’s not. She’s the grass
Aww thanks
As a single parent be careful
Hi Yorkshire here the appalling threats from the voice mail to apostate Aldine horrific these individuals need to be seeked and dealt with accordingly
Great stream friendly ex muslim and lubna... Two of ny favourite youtubers.
Yes ma’am jihad is not at all there in Islam .😂😂😂😂
Wait what I just started watching the stream I'm fearing a take of the highest delusional order please try to soften a blow if you can is it gonna be the religion of peace 😂
@@hungy7 my religion my interpretation. It’s like my body my choice.
@@bestest1234567 are you being sarcastic? I haven't gotten too far yet
@bestest1234567 I really personally have my own favourite Jihad excuse is the 'inner Jihad'
I'd rather deny the whole Jihad then, because this inner Jihad is a Hamas/Hezbollah/Isis/Taliban holding a gun to a head of a Jew, Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Atheist their last bits of humanity empathy pleading them not to pull trigger because they are not muslim or are gonna convert but the strive of od glory and victorious Allah and the guy who created that cartoon character who they are always make them pull
Lubna is a brave , courageous and gorgeous girl. She will go places. Love her ❤️🔥
Thanks ❤
@@Lubna.Candidas I told you Bohras were doing this FGM 😢. Nope it’s not cultural. Even circumcision is copied from Jews who copied it from Egyptians ( non believers as per any Abrahamic faith )
She is a dangerous liar, last weel she was slagging off ex-myslims as a danger and spreading hatred to islam and only in it for the cash and most are millionaires
@@Lubna.Candidso is he only in it for the money and a danger to islam?
@@GedaliahARah, someone else who watches her video.
I wonder the same thing you're wondering.
FGM is only praticed in Islam though. No other religions do it. Lubna blaming that on 'poor people' is a bit much.
Wrong. Islam has nothing to do with FGM.
"FGM is only praticed in Islam though. "
..this is not true. it is not taught in the quran or the hadiths, african christian groups practice it as well but its also not tuaght in the bible either...
You always have to go back to the religious book to find out if its cultural or if its prescribed by the religion.
As someone once put it, " With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion."
Great conversation
Does Jihad watch tell lies or report what happens in current time. Anyone can report about other religion which is not lie
This guy hates non muslims who fear islam basically
Moderates try to ease the pain caused and then extremes takeover. Until then just listen to these and feel happy
#kimiyatarkashvand was an Iranian university student who has lost her l1f3 due to sh@r1@ . In the dorm she tried to c0mm1t su1c1d3 and ambulance was called but the 1sl@m1c security officers made the ambulance wait for 40 minutes so that in the meantime the other girl students could dress her " appropriately " . She lost her life as soon as she was finally brought into the ambulance . If only t3rr0r1sm was not ruling , she might have not even have a reason to t@k3 her own l1f3 . Numerous cases like this happen in Iran each day and if it is not stopped , the same monsters are coming to your lands as well . Let's speak up together . ✊🏻✌🏻
#iranrevolution
#Iranrevolution ✊️✌️
#iranrevolution ✊️✌️
The issue for me with AP that made me UNSUB is that he started to hang out with christian nationalists which shows that he is more of anti-islam rather than an anti-religion .. one fights for reason and against superstition and the other is just racist.
...thats interesting, Apostate Prophet hang out with christian nationalists - well he isnt a christian yet i would say...
christian nationalists go against Jesus statement, he refuses to let his disciples defend him at his arrest because He says that His kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36)
But actually it takes a lot of faith to believe that we can change things through prayer...
Main line christianity would say that our warfare is spiritual, through prayer...(Eph 6:18 below). and the first christians refused to fight for the Romans but instead they said they would pray... apparently there was 200 years of peace for the roman empire during that time, just after Christ, despite the christians themselves being martyred...
Ephesians 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
👉18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
@@JuliexSteadman I get what you're saying .. Christian nationalists and muslim brotherhood has the same machiavellian approach .. they can sleep with the enemy for better PR and encounter a common enemy!!
@@AhmedOfKemet ..yes.. possibly the converging apostasy..
Great to see Lubna getting on lots of different channels.
Thanks
sharia law allows a man to do honour kills and without punishment actually. how I figured it was watching nuriyah khan/ holy humanist video on sharia law with lloyd de jongh
Can you find me a Sharia book with a list of sharia laws?
@@shumonchoudhury9957I don’t have the book particular but on the video that’s on the comment above, will show you the books all in English and he explains how to read it like scholars do. Also think the video has a pdf link to each book as well
The reliance of the traveller@@shumonchoudhury9957
She talks 💩its sharia in 1400 years ago and also the mullahs have misinterpreted the Quran and hadits
@@shumonchoudhury9957 Umdat Al Salik, Behesti Zewar, Hedaya.
Never criticize ex muslim specially from india, pakistan. They have limited sources of income. No one should have have spoken about islam openly if it was not initiated by sahil, adam seeker, sameer, quranwala, sachwala.
The best Lubna interview I have heard. Thanks to both of you.
Thanks
43:19 So you are ok with Ex Muslims teaming up with Christians, but not with Hindus.
Does anyone think they are NOT a critical thinker?
Yeah haha, all of us do
Yep
Those who are really critical thinkers accept Islam in the end.
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50 Well Iin fact, many people indoctrinated in the cukt leavevuslam after reading the Koran.
There's a reason for high appstasy rates, in spite of threats of violence to stop people leaving the cult. If it weren't for high birth rates amongst poorer communities that are guven a choice, uslam would be in absolute decline
@@Sheikh-Rohan-50
Sound like critical thinking means 'convinced by sht'. Right
Sahils channel is banned in India itself and he is not growing since last year. Can u imagine his channel getting banned if he is with Hindutwa in India?
Sahil clearly says he doesn't believe in Hinduism. However he needs help of Hindus to stay alive in India bcoz without Hindu support his life will be in danger.
Lies !! His channel is growing !! It's not banned in India.
@@adnanrashtogi4553
I'm not a dawah guy so i don't need to lie. In his every video he says to change location from India to other country bcoz his channel is not visible in India.
He had more than half million subscribers last year. It's still almost same.
Atleast go and check once before making such useless comments.
@@adnanrashtogi4553his main channel is banned for India location. That’s why he’s running a back up channel too.
Bullshit discussion just trying to protect Muslims and protect g hadis. Altakiya to spread your religion
😂 You must be new here
@@FriendlyExmuslimhi im ex convert from england. Lubna is a national treasure and spearheading intergration and understanding. like you Sir. ❤
@@harry.flashmanshe's not. She's the toxic one.
Really nice to see Friendly Exmuslim and Lubna chatting and agreeing and disagreeing about different things without a fuss. I actually learnt about this livestream from Lubna's channel, kind of stopped checking Friendly Exmuslim channel Live tab, nothing new there for so long. Let's hope we'll see more livestreams like this here.
Wrong FGM is Islam and that hadith is not weak. Egypt the most populous arab country practises this. so does Somalia, Sudan, Qatar and many western african muslim countries.. bohris of India do it too.
..but the quran doesnt teach you to do FGM...
and african chrisitans practice it as well, but also its cultural as the bible doesnt teach people to do this either...
@@JuliexSteadman
Do you even know what is hadith.? Even, practice of prayer to Allah (DEVIL) is not in Quran.
I like Lubna. She's an interesting character.
This lady is one of a kind. Very straight forward n clear in her thoughts 👍
Thanks
Btw Main channel of ex Muslim sahil is banned in india and Pakistan
Thank you for bringing on Candid with Lubna.😊 She is quite a Scholar, even though she would probably refute that. She has a Good head on her shoulders. Good conversation. I have not ever heard anything about FGM outside of Muslim communities. 🤔 But overall Good show. Thanks Again!!!😊
Don’t know if she will refute that. But I will. I was just thinking about how ignorant she is but she keeps talking, and then I saw your comment. So had to say something.
I think her intentions are good tho so I do support her (for the most part). But scholar she is not even close to be close I’m afraid.
But to each his own I guess. To you she might be :-)
Thanks ❤
Who is responsible? Islam or Muslim?
I am not getting answers from you. Spent 21 minutes.
Islam is to blame. But Muslims are sometimes also culpable
@@FriendlyExmuslim Thank you.. Sir
@@Nokapp23 I blame Muslims and not Islam. I can also prove that as well.
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and who follow *ISLAM?*
Christians; hindus; sikhs; jain; budhs; shinto; tao; athiests; agnostics............? *WHO?*
If anyone wants a no-nonsense guide to spiritual wisdom, it's definitely Vedanta or Buddhism.
Yes but it’s a looooong loooooong way from Islam :-). First get to exmuslim then a few other ladders and then you can get to Vedanta :-). Can’t expect ppl who are failing kindergarten and getting angry about it to start reading scholarly materials.
@@brinta19, I meant it for people who stop seeking just bcz they found out their religion is false. People just stop questioning that doesn't pertain to their religion bcz they are too scared that they'll lose belief in materialstic superstitions they hold dear.
I think it isn't a buddhist crap but a hindu one.
Veda is a hindu scripture
Unfortunately if you actually believe In islam and practice it. Rights cannot be given to you.
Islam when they leave it’s strange cause they can only come to the conclusion that if Islam is false then There is no god.
How about Islam is just false?
Muslims conclude god doesn’t exist if Islam isn’t true shows the baggage after leaving they still deal with and that Islam has power over them still.
Absolutely. The cave demon only wants to take souls from God. Ex-Muslims should look into the True Faith that the cave demon was trying taking them away from.
#rezvanehahmadkhanbeigi is an imprisoned pregnant Iranian protestor who is not allowed to seek medical attention due to the fear these ir gc t3rr0rists have of these protestors . She needs immediate medical help or else she may lose her child . Let's be their voice .
#رضوانه_احمد_خان_بیگی
#iranrevolution
That point about religion not giving protection to women against FGM was solid!!!
Even if 20-30% of rice is bad is stale, people throw the whole batch of rice… discarding as SPOILED food. 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️ Not all the grains are moldy, but everything is definitely gotten bad and inedible.
Better say 'a tiny drop of sht can ruin the whole jar of milk'.
Fundamentalists are shts
Very interesting exchange, however you prefer your children to be model citizen and wish all the best. I find your conversation very constructive and doing a good job 👍
It’s about time, Islam is 100% false!! You read the Arabic and it says in Surah 18:86 the sun set in mud!!!
I don't think its the hugest hole. They can twist that verse.
I think 98:6 and aisha's age are hugest holes which they can't defend.
Yahoooo.... Anjem Choudary is to continue in the boiling soup !!
Was'salam
He should be in jail forever.
Appreciate your open discussion…very helpful in understanding various aspects of this topic
If all muslims have that level of clarity like Lubna then there is no need to become exmuslim.
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Islam is the one that is quite rigid. Muslims can and do reform eventually, but some others don't and double down on being fundamentalist and radical. Seems like the hadiths are the breaking point, since they have all levels of acceptance, from "none" to "yes, all of it alhamdulillah!". Muslims would be better if cherry-picking is respected and accepted. You know, freedom of speech, thought and expression.
I congratulate Lubna on her courage and energy. I love Friendly Exmuslim for his intelligence and insight and his great laugh and smile. I think he could know more about the Bible and Christianity before he critiques it. He reads too many staunch atheists. I love Apostate Aladdin for his own brand of honest analysis. He got carried away on the Middle East and lost his cool. This is forgivable and we forgive him and the other duo also has forgiven him. (Forgiveness is a great thing). He also does not know Christianity and presumes to comment on it. But we love him. David Wood and AP are undisputed kings of the analysis and creativity. And AP is the APple 🍎 of my eye, as a fellow ex-German living in North America. He is very smart and works very hard. Also, even as an atheist, when he talks about Christianity, he understands the connection to Islam and analyzes correctly. Lubna may find it jarring on her sensibilities, but she has a way to go still. It seems to me that even as a Christian I know quite a lot more about the Quran than she does. Like AP with a German grammar school education we have learned to do our homework thoroughly. Someone like Spencer should not be critiqued for listing atrocities nobody else dares to enumerate and high-light. All of you and others not mentioned above are loved and prayed for. The truth would not come out without you. You are very brave and we are in awe of you.
Thank you
@@FriendlyExmuslimwhat about you and all men like us who were circumcised after birth😂? You don’t criticise this thing but only for women is a problem 😟. Who asked us if we wanted to have circumcision or not ? 😮
@@ThomasEdison-dd8ms That’s ridiculous.
@@Brigitte619 what’s ridiculous? I was circumcised without my permission. 😟
@ThomasEdison-dd8ms they're completely different. FGM is cruelty beyond measure.
BOTH. Absolutely Positively Without a shadow of a Doubt BOTHHHHHHH
And if I absolutely had to choose one, it’s the latter more than the former.
Without Lies Islam Dies!
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Both!
God bless you my brother
All exmuslim are real warior
Lubna Dont say you are confused..just say you are still researching.
Ok
I concur with Lubna’s assessment that Apostate Prophet, the Turkish guy, demonstrates a troubling bias. As an ex-Muslim of non-Arab origin, I am in support of Israel’s right to exist and thrive. I believe they have the right to define their identity, protect their land, and defend themselves against adversaries, particularly Islamist groups seeking to undermine their existence. I also support the right of those who identify as Palestinians to live peacefully alongside Israel and to have a dignified existence. Apostate Aladdin, with his Arabic background, often exhibits an emotional attachment to Arab identity, which influences his views on Palestine. While I understand his perspective, I find myself at odds with his approach because I regard Palestine as a trivial matter that does not affect me directly. Returning to Apostate Prophet - Initially, I supported his critiques of Islam and Quranic teachings, I considered it a necessary part of exposing religious ideologies - and I still do. However, his critique shifted from an ideological analysis to a broader attack on Muslims as individuals. This shift happened because he collaborated with Christian apologists like David Wood and Robert Spencer, who are known for their condescending and mocking portrayal of Muslims. David Wood’s show, “Jihad This Week,” often magnifies isolated negative incidents involving Muslims while neglecting similar issues within other communities. This selective focus distorts the broader picture and unfairly targets Muslims. Robert Spencer is the biggest bigot among them all. As much as I abhor Islam, despite its illogical and unreasonable aspects, the sugarcoated version presented by the Dawah gang, mosques, and ordinary Muslims living in the West attracts converts, many Christians. This triggers Christian apologists, who then focus on highlighting every negative aspect not just of Islam but of Muslims themselves-their backgrounds, their lives , accents, and other personal characteristics. Apostate Prophet has become an extension of this Christian apologist agenda, contributing to this biased and harmful portrayal.
I completely disagree. I think AP might be the only exmuslim who actually does not try to shield muslims from the atrocities they as a collective community is responsible for in the world. He calls it out like it is.
The rest, while criticizing islam, still seem to be trying to protect muslims from the consequences of what they have been doing to the world as a collective group. And That is what is biased and not okay. Not what AP is doing.
@@brinta19
If you are a Christian on the same bandwagon as David Wood and Robert Spencer, who view Muslims as inherently evil while upholding Christianity as the ultimate path to salvation through Jesus, then you are entrenched in a profound contradiction. By denouncing Muslims in such sweeping terms, you parallel the extremism of those you criticize. Christianity, like Islam, is replete with doctrines that many would deem nonsensical. Concepts such as the virgin birth of Jesus, His resurrection, and His divine nature are as dubious as the claims of Islam. Yet, figures like David Wood often target Islam’s “low-hanging fruit” while avoiding similar scrutiny of Christianity’s equally problematic beliefs. This selective criticism reflects a deeper bias rather than a genuine commitment to rational discourse. If you adhere to any form of dogmatic belief, whether it’s Christianity or Islam, you are embracing a system fraught with contradictions and absurdities. However, if you are willing to engage openly and critically with all forms of dogma, I would be happy to have a discussion with you.
@@allahmuhammad225I would not be happy to have any discussion with any muslim if muslim is defined as following islam and Islam allows for lying.
So since there is no commitment to truth, there is no point in discussing anything.
Now an exmuslim (provided they actually are, and not just someone using that as yet another facade), or an agnostic or really ppl of any other religion I would be happy to have discussions with, but still not here on this platform cause there would be too many things to discuss and this place is not conducive for long discussions.
That’s one.
I don’t know yet about inherently, but I do view muslims as evil yes, but not above salvation, atleast not all of them. This view is not based on coming from a Christian background but coming from my extensive knowledge and experience with Islam and muslims.
But two things need to be clairified here: when I say evil, I mean anti life. And when I say muslim I mean people who are knowingly or unknowingly but willingly perpetuating or defending the teachings of islam.
Under those two definitions, yes I do view muslims as evil.
That’s two.
“By denouncing muslims in such sweeping terms you parallel the extremism of those you criticize” -
Sounds like a good argument but it’s a fallacy.
Can you see if you can figure the fallacy in that argument?
I've come across quite a number of Lubna's videos recently and I just have to say she's such a breath of fresh air and she seems so genuinely authentic (even more than some ex-Muslim CZcamsrs, no offence ahaha)!! Best of luck in your journey wherever it takes you!