I've owned many CJs. Just got an 03 grand Cherokee by chance and I'm surprised how much I like it. Guess I'm getting old. What blows my mind is watching these things in the tough truck vids. How in the hell a Dana 30 or whatevers in the front of these things handles 4ft of air and continues to drive is a testiment to how well they handle abuse. I enjoy hearing info from someone I can tell knows. Thanks.
Canada here...just got a 2000...have 2012 wrangler at 255/70/18 ...sweet vid, well spoken n knowledgable sir...You are the first I've see to roll fender for rigidity , as I would...nice! I'll rewatch then begin, once lift kit in...prob get spacers as well as I want no issues...thank you...keep turning that wrench... one love
Fantastic video. I have a WJ with a 3" lift that I ran wrangler takeoffs for quite awhile. Now I run 265/70r17s on a 17x9 with I think 4.5" BS. Had to cut a little off the back of the front wheel well when I first put them on and Baja the front bumper. But, now I'm looking to fully cut and tuck all my fenders to step up to 285s on my next set of tires. I guess I'm trying to get the most out of my Jeep without going down the rabbit hole of a long arm kit etc.
Working my way up to 35's on my 04 WJ. Running a 3" lift now with 33" pie cutters (255/80-17) which work good in Michigan. Trimmed the flange around the front of the rear opening and quite a bit of the front, the tire trimmed the washer bottle pump off for me...
Does it work the 3 inch with 35 ? Cz im trying to fit 35 on 4 inch rough country and I already have bushwhackers fanders let me know how it works with you plz
When you lift a SFA coil-spring Jeep, it moves the entire axle closer to the center of the vehicle. With a 2" BB, you won't notice it, but it is there. The coil-spring rear axle is the same way.
Disconnect both sway bars and flex fully and see how you do. Bet the washer bottle will get hit but should be close everywhere else depending on backspace. Also depends on your shock length and if it bottoms out before your bump stops
Hey man, appreciate the video. I'm putting a 4 inch iron rock long arm with bushwacker fenders (cutting out the fender to install). I want to fit 33 inch tires on 16 inch after market rim, any recommendations on wheel and tire? You're the man!
You are going to want a 4.25” backspace. Warning though you are probably fine with a 33x12.5 but the bush wackers are fairly conservative in the cutting in my opinion but they make it easy to look clean. A narrower tire will fit better than a wider one.
I’m looking at getting rocktrix 17x9 rims 4.5in offset and putting Road one cavalry 265/70/r17 or 285/70/r17 tires on them!! I have the 4” rough country lift will the those rims and tires with either the 265 or 285 clear fine?
The 9 wide might be an issue without trimming the fenders. Like I said in the rear it’s a skinny opening to hit, a 265 on a 9 wide rim doesn’t sound like a good idea.
You can go up from stock by 1 size. I got 245/65/17 and stock is 235. But I'm getting a 2 inch spring lift. Idk if I'm gonna cut it up or not yet. It's my daily family vehicle lol.
Great video. I have a 2000 with 6.5 inch rough country long arm kit (4.5 springs and 2" spacers) I run 285/75 r 16 BFG mud terrains on aftermarket steel wheels. 4.5" back spacing. Also running a jk front diff to eliminate the CVs. 3:73 gears. 242HD transfer case What gears are you running for 37s?
I’m running stock 3.73’s. It kinda sucks but for a lot of what we do 4low, first gear works well enough. I have to watch though if I point downhill in soft snow reverse is geared to tall and I can’t back up
I found some 15-in Chevy wheels aluminum ones with a deep in set meaning most of the wheels and tires on the outside.. they are 33 12.50 R-15 first of all with a Chevy bolt up second of all will I need to put extensions and how big 1 in 2 in
Wj is 5x5 bolt pattern. If you need spacers and with wide offset wheels, I don’t think you’d get 33x12.5’s on it. Even with wide offset wheels you’ll be cutting lots to get it on. The scrub radius is too much. You’d need at least 6” lift with no cutting
If anyone could help me with this question I would be incredibly appreciative!! To like the 10th power!..lol. So I have an 2004 WJ straight 6. I typically do my own work ,but with the parts I was needing to replace I just didnt have the proper equipment for the job..lift being one . Anyway one of the new mods is the 2 inch budget lift front and back, and also 1 inch spacers for more aggressive look. The problem now is that the tires that are on it now are LT 225/75/R16. And now with the lift ofcourse they're looking too small and goofy. I'd like to go a size upit Hope's to fill in the empty space and for more aggressive look. I would really like the either the BF Goodrench AT, or even better The General Tire Grabbers x3. I had this same set up, same jeep, different one but same. Anyway the tire shop figured out what would fit. I only had a slight rub in the front fenders which was an easy grind down job with no further issue's. Problem is that was 15 maybe 20 years ago and I cant remember the size🤦🏼♂️. I'm more psyched about the General Grabbers because of the more aggressive look and seem more rounded if that makes sense..? Now in my mind the mechanic whose been working on my jeep should know the answers or atleast be able to figure it out....well it's been put on my shoulders to figure out and in complete lost. My jeep is done and ready to go except for the tire situation. So I could have gotten back a week ago if not for this,but it is what it is. So if ANYONE COULD PLEASE HELP ME AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!! ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY BETTER IDEAS FOR TIRES YOU THINK WOULD WORK AND LOOK BETTER I AM MORE THAN OPEN TO ANY IDEAS! SO again what I have on now are LT 225/75/r16 and I'm just looking to go a size bigger to fill in the wheel wells better. Thank you in advance! The sooner I can find out the answers the sooner I get my baby back!👍🏻 Thank you for your time, Nick
Odds are it was a 245/75r16 or a 265/70r16. The common swap now is the 255/75r17 as they are rubicon take Offs and usually found cheap. They are taller though as require a little more trimming.
Sorry for being late to the party, but i have a question. I'm looking to add a 4" lift and bushwacker flares on my 04. I would like to run 33x12.5's on it, and am wondering what backspacing would be best with minimal extra trimming. Also have an EAG front winch bumper on it, so no trimming there.
I’ve found 4.25” backspace on 8 wide wheels to be ideal for a 12.5 wide tire. It’s the kosher ground on being far enough out to clear but not to far to sweep front and back. I find the bushwacker flares pretty minimal trimming for my liking but on a 33 should be adequate
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the quick reply. I was looking at some old black d window steelies, but they are 3.75 back spacing. Think that might be a bit too much? This rig won't be off road much, that's what my TJ and LJR are for. Lol 😁😁 still new to the WJ's.
@@bryanlail613 I suspect at that offset when flexed it’ll hit the fenders as they won’t tuck inside. My first set was 33” bajaclaw with 3.5” backspace. look up project lay-z-boy part 1 to see where I was at back then
I got a stock 2000 jeep grand cherokee laredo 4x4 and want 32inch mud tires on stock rims. Can I not just cut my front fenders and put a 1inch spacer on rear rims to push it away from my back shocks so it don't hit them? I'll also take my front bumper off if need be
You need to remove the front washer bottle, cut the front fenders, rear backspacing should be fine, the skinnier tires the Easier they are to Fit. The fog lights need to be cut out.
The big one has a full build thread project lay z boy on my channel, starting stock drivetrain and 33’s to the jk axle up front and through 36” iroks and 37” milestar. Aside from front axle to jk d30 it’s all stock. It’s been pretty reliable. I don’t drive it to kill it. It’s strictly a wheeling rig but experience has taught me when to back off and when to go for it
poobank my red one in the video is a 4” short arm rough country as a base starting point. They springs are long and soft so they flex well and travel well. I started on 33x12.5r 15 and the offset of the 15” rims gave me lots of rubbing. I think a 285 with minor rubbing would work at 4.25” backspace. 265 should be good to go
I have a 2004 wj 4.0 ive bought beginning of December 2023 its lifted 2.5'. What size tires would you recommend? Its got 17 inch wrangler tires right now
I’d say you are probably on the size you need. The skinnier tires are easier to fit. Reality if you disconnect your sway bar and flex those tires will already rub. It’ll only get worse as you go wider or taller
Brilliant video I’m about to use the same wheels to mount 255/70R17 and 2” coil spacers, do you think doing 2” bump stop extensions will minimize the cutting in the rear? I’m comfortable doing a little cutting in the front but nervous about the rear- it’s primarily a daily but I want to hit the off-road park as well Brilliant video dude
I only removed the fender liners and hammered the sharp edges back. I never cut the rear, they tuck, it doesn’t rub even at full flex with my 2” and 255’s on jk wheels
@@Scoobienorth so I’m an off-road noob, my thought is that where I live the roads are salty and removing the liners is asking for trouble Will I be giving up too much performance if I do the bump stops to maintain the liners as much as possible?
So with just 2" would you say 30.5 x 9.5 17 would be just fine. I bought the rc blocks with shocks I really don't need big tires just more aggressive options at 245 70 17 which is about 1.5 taller and .5 wider . Great video by the way
Like I said in the video it depends on your backspace on the wheels but that should be doable. May have issues if you disconnect the front sway bar with tire contact on your washer bottle
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the response, I don't plan on disconnecting, this will be more of a camping light trail rig. And running stock 17" rims as of now
The white one has the awd system, but not the varilok diffs, the wheeling one has the select trac case but they have proven to be a big issue and unreliable
Bushwackers don’t cut enough. Look at my red one or project lay z boy on my channel. You’ll want close to that much cutting to get 35’s on, you won’t need the full tub I did in the rear.
I'm running 33x12.5 15's on 15x8 -19mm offset rims to clear over knuckle steering. also running a 4 inch long arm lift and cutout fender flares. How is the gearing and breaking with those 37's?
Honestly the gearing sucks but I get by with it. Mostly manually shifting it to Keep rpms between 2-4500 rpm. There crawl ratio really sucks and hurts me sometimes offroad but I usually drive around it. It’s been fairly reliable as is and that’s more the goal The jk brakes up front helped a bunch but again it’s not great. I built it to snow wheel and it stops fine on ice and snow. It’s not unsafe with the brakes but definitely worse than stock.
An 05 should be a wk first of the ifs. I’m not sure on that chassis but as all grands the wheel wells are small and wheel offset is key. Best chance is on stock wheels and adjust the steering stops in so you don’t rub the inside too hard when steering
I'm gonna fit 42"x15x17" tyres with Volvo portal axles and 7.55 gear ratios, air shocks and diy long arm kit. I think I need grind little more than that :D
OK, GREAT VidClip! But let me ask, I have a 2" lift on a 2000 WJ. I bought P255/70 R18's on OEM Wrangler wheels and I've been told they won't work on my WJ. Your thoughts? PLUS, I don't want to cut anything on the body, so I may be stuck with some useless rims and tires! LOL THANKS in advance for your time and consideration! Aloha
I’m running 255/70/R18 on my 2004 WJ and I have a 4 inch lift. I had to do a little trimming but not much, so with a 2 inch lift you’ll have to do quite a bit more and I don’t think they’ll fit without trimming
Jason Seitz I’m currently running them and have full flex. And yes I’ve done trimming. Like I said tire fit is more about how much bumpstop you add and how much you stretch the wheelbase and less about lift height.
Terry. You will have rubbing issues. Bumpstops will help along with limiting your steering angle and if you don’t flex much you can get away with it a bit.
@@terryridge4596 What year wrangler wheels do you have and do you need wheel adapters to bolt them on. My 2004 wj came with 245-70-16 wheels and People are selling brand new 17in new tires on wrangler rims all the time for $200-$250 where I live. I thought about a 2in lift and a set of wrangler 17in but I haven’t found anyone that can tell me for sure if you need wheel adapters or if they will bolt right on.
Would you have been able to fit 33x10.5x17 on the silver WJ without spacers? Im currently running 255/75/17 but the tire I want comes in a 33x10.5x17, which is .5" wider and 1" taller. The height isn't the thing I am worried about, I am more worried about the width.
I’ve pounded my firewall back already so I suspect a 33 would rub when turning especially as it articulates. I think the 33 would also rub the frame when turning hard if it doesn’t hit the firewall. I don’t think the width would be much of an issue except possibly on the rear, which could be trimmed to stop that
@@Scoobienorth Thanks for the quick response. I think I am going to give the 33s a try, worst case scenario I will put on wheel spacers. Also I have a 3" lift, and in the rear I am putting a 3/8" coil spacer.
@@immelting9834 Still havent put larger tires yet. I have a 3" iron rock lift, going to put 3/8" spacer in the rear. I trimmed the front fenders and the rear I did piecuts. I then installed 1.25" hubcentric spacers. I dont see why the 33s wouldnt fit. Once I get a little more miles out of my current 32s I am going to upgrade.
@@tylerdubois9020 I'm on 285/70/17 ( 32.8 x 11.3 ) with iron rock link long arms front and rear. 1.25 spacers . I'm at exactly 3.5 inches of lift with me , wife and camping gear, hidden winch synthetic rope. hacked up Stock bumpers ( less weight than heavy ass steel bumpers) . I cut and folded my front , then used a fender roller ( Eastwood) and rolled it all nice and was even able to " flare" it out a little.the rear was cut a little folded and JB welded the 2 rear fenders together. I have no rubbing.
They do look gd in white! My 2001 wj 4.7 is totally standard, I'd like to have slightly larger tyres to fill the arch abit more! Can I? And what size is a maximum?
Terry Stratford is your not trimming stock is all you fit. The washer bottle is right on the stock 245/70r16’s. I ripped three pumps out backing up when I started all of this
@@newlion7013 I find 4.25” backspace is pretty close to the sweet spot between balancing the tire sweep front to back (scrub radius) and clearance of the frame for steering
@@newlion7013 I’m using 37’s on a jk front diff in my wheeling rig with a 4” lift and I’m on 255/75r17 on factory jk wheels with a 2” lift and trimming up front
Hey there..i have 2000 Jeep wj laredo with 2 inch lift kit from iron man.. it has tires size 245 70 r16...if i install bigger tires like 255 75 r16 will these tires incrase the height of my car? If the answer is yes, can you please tell me how much will increasing in inches...and if the answer is No.. can i add 1 inch spacers on it? Because i want to go on trip crosing about 6000 km in 2 months on my wj, will my car be good on highways?... and thank you🖤
I know this is late but i figured you could benefit from hearing a response. A lift kit will increase the lift the vehicle's clearance, however will not raise the height of the differential's and axles. Lift kits also allow an increase in tire sizes, as well as articulation (ability for the vehicle to flex when going over obstacles). A 245/70/R16 tire is approximately 29.5" tall. A 255/75/R16 tire is a 31" tire. So while the tire's overall height is going to increase by 1.5", the vehicle's height (and differential/axle height)will only go up by half, so .75". However, increasing your tire size will also lead to a larger 'footprint' for traction and ability to grip obstacles and terrain. On the WJ, you should be fine running up to a 31" tire without needing to regear the diff's, but keep in mind that you are suggested to re-gear the differentials to be able to turn the larger tires with less strain. things will get expensive quick.
This is tough to answer, they aren’t known for being very tough, and 20 years ago I probably would have broken everything in short order on 33’s, that being said my big one was/is mostly stock on 37’s and done well, the d35 rear made 4 years of hard wheeling, 2 of those on 36-37” tires. If you are smooth driver you can wheel pretty hard on 33-35 tires on a stock wj
@@The-JMartian probably at full flex and steering but be okay most of the time. Literally anything over factory will hit the washer bottle with out front sway bar
Did you watch the video? How much lift, bumpstop do you have? Rim backspace? It all matters to answer the question. My white one in the video has 32x10.5 with 2” lift, stock bumps and clears but is cut and hammered up front
Generally every Jeep SUV "not counting the 4 door wranglers" except the widetrack FSJ's cant fit much bigger than 31-33 inch tires without rubbing stuff and needing to go to huge lifts and doing crazy things like cutting the body of the vehicle.. this means the wagoneers and grand wagoneers, and all the grand cherokee's will have rubbing with tires 33 inchs or bigger. I think once you start getting into needing to cut the vehicle and hack it, you get into territory that makes things a little too trashy for me
Fair enough. Cutting isn’t for everyone. Where I live we get a lot of snow and tire size rules, on my 255’s I can’t go into the back country 6-7 months of the year. A wider 33 would allow me another month maybe 2. 37’s I can run 10 months of the year
@@Scoobienorth NOTHING I THINK.. SORRY IM A WJ NOOB I JUST GOT HER. SHES A 4.7 LAREDO WITH THE ADDED Up Country Suspension Group SO I THINK IT GIVES IT A BIT OF A SMALL lift. I want to be able to add 17's because I cant find a set of decent looking second hands for her. Has the stock 16's now
@@jeffreystine7068 a 285 is a tough fit, stock about all you will fit is a 31” tire max and you’ll need some trimming. 32 with more trimming, ideally you’ll want about 4.25-4.5” backspace on the rims. Stock wrangler wheels like my white one fit though and easy enough to fit
I don't know what this guy's talking about I got a 2-in lift and I have 265 70 17s on it that's a 31 in tire and I believe I can get a 33 inch tire in there because of the room I have left with the 31 in tire. I only had to trim out the front bumper
Yes everything is tight enough that you need to make sure your tires are in the right place, at 2” lift it isn’t bad at all, any more though and you are losing.
Have the same 17" rims with 265x70/17 DuraTracs, 3" lift, adjustable track bar and rear sway bar delete. Only trimmed front bumper. Front rub on lower control arm and rear rub on the shocks and just rub the paint off front and rear edge of rear wheel wells. Flexes very well and needs no metal trimming or clearancing.
All these Jeeps ride so hard. Bigger tires might help but I’d think you’d need 35+ to make a difference and by then you’d probably need a bunch of suspension mods or drivetrain Meh
My white one rides pretty decent. If you drive them to kill them, you’ll succeed but they take a fair bit of punishment and work really well for the money. The triangulated rear suspension in the wj helps the ride a lot and the grands seem to be balanced better than the wrangler or maybe it’s the weight further back behind the rear axle on the overhang that helps.
What’s part? The video or Jeeps? The red one I have been honest about from the start, it was for me to learn on. There’s so much misinformation , everyone says you need long arms, one tons and 40+ inch tires to go offroad. I did as much at I could with as little as possible. It works well for what it is. My video skills are lacking. I don’t do enough to get them where they should be
And further more the information in this video is very much correct, rarely talked about and factor very much into maximizing tire size under any vehicle but this one in particular. I had no ones it would garner nearly 40k views either
Very good explanation - thanks for doing a great job of explaining your tire fitment.
I've owned many CJs. Just got an 03 grand Cherokee by chance and I'm surprised how much I like it. Guess I'm getting old. What blows my mind is watching these things in the tough truck vids. How in the hell a Dana 30 or whatevers in the front of these things handles 4ft of air and continues to drive is a testiment to how well they handle abuse. I enjoy hearing info from someone I can tell knows. Thanks.
Your knowledge of wj's is incredible😁
Canada here...just got a 2000...have 2012 wrangler at 255/70/18 ...sweet vid, well spoken n knowledgable sir...You are the first I've see to roll fender for rigidity , as I would...nice! I'll rewatch then begin, once lift kit in...prob get spacers as well as I want no issues...thank you...keep turning that wrench... one love
Get negative offset wheels. Spacers are crap.
Fantastic video. I have a WJ with a 3" lift that I ran wrangler takeoffs for quite awhile. Now I run 265/70r17s on a 17x9 with I think 4.5" BS. Had to cut a little off the back of the front wheel well when I first put them on and Baja the front bumper. But, now I'm looking to fully cut and tuck all my fenders to step up to 285s on my next set of tires. I guess I'm trying to get the most out of my Jeep without going down the rabbit hole of a long arm kit etc.
Working my way up to 35's on my 04 WJ. Running a 3" lift now with 33" pie cutters (255/80-17) which work good in Michigan. Trimmed the flange around the front of the rear opening and quite a bit of the front, the tire trimmed the washer bottle pump off for me...
Does it work the 3 inch with 35 ? Cz im trying to fit 35 on 4 inch rough country and I already have bushwhackers fanders let me know how it works with you plz
excellent mate! great info . cheers from australia
Same👍🇦🇺
awesome video, info and WJ's. Thanks
This is the most Canadian video I have ever seen. Starts off with an apology & pronounces house as “hOOuse”
When you lift a SFA coil-spring Jeep, it moves the entire axle closer to the center of the vehicle. With a 2" BB, you won't notice it, but it is there. The coil-spring rear axle is the same way.
The Coil on the rear of the wj is not the same and does not move off to the side, only the front does
Super helpful. Thank you
I do have a WJ with 2” lift and I fired 265/70/17 tires, with 9,5 wheels. I just had to cut the fenders.
Disconnect both sway bars and flex fully and see how you do. Bet the washer bottle will get hit but should be close everywhere else depending on backspace. Also depends on your shock length and if it bottoms out before your bump stops
Thanks for the video. How did you create the smooth lines and cut your front bumper?
Practice. Cut one on my first jeep and , the red one like 4 or 5 times. The white one I free handed easily. I like the jigsaw for control
Hey man, appreciate the video. I'm putting a 4 inch iron rock long arm with bushwacker fenders (cutting out the fender to install). I want to fit 33 inch tires on 16 inch after market rim, any recommendations on wheel and tire? You're the man!
You are going to want a 4.25” backspace. Warning though you are probably fine with a 33x12.5 but the bush wackers are fairly conservative in the cutting in my opinion but they make it easy to look clean. A narrower tire will fit better than a wider one.
I’m looking at getting rocktrix 17x9 rims 4.5in offset and putting Road one cavalry 265/70/r17 or 285/70/r17 tires on them!! I have the 4” rough country lift will the those rims and tires with either the 265 or 285 clear fine?
The 9 wide might be an issue without trimming the fenders. Like I said in the rear it’s a skinny opening to hit, a 265 on a 9 wide rim doesn’t sound like a good idea.
You can go up from stock by 1 size. I got 245/65/17 and stock is 235. But I'm getting a 2 inch spring lift. Idk if I'm gonna cut it up or not yet. It's my daily family vehicle lol.
245/70r16 is a stock size so is similar to your size
Great video. I have a 2000 with 6.5 inch rough country long arm kit (4.5 springs and 2" spacers) I run 285/75 r 16 BFG mud terrains on aftermarket steel wheels. 4.5" back spacing. Also running a jk front diff to eliminate the CVs.
3:73 gears. 242HD transfer case
What gears are you running for 37s?
I’m running stock 3.73’s. It kinda sucks but for a lot of what we do 4low, first gear works well enough. I have to watch though if I point downhill in soft snow reverse is geared to tall and I can’t back up
Thanks for the info, hope to see you out on the trail. I am based outta Kamloops
I found some 15-in Chevy wheels aluminum ones with a deep in set meaning most of the wheels and tires on the outside.. they are 33 12.50 R-15 first of all with a Chevy bolt up second of all will I need to put extensions and how big 1 in 2 in
Wj is 5x5 bolt pattern. If you need spacers and with wide offset wheels, I don’t think you’d get 33x12.5’s on it. Even with wide offset wheels you’ll be cutting lots to get it on. The scrub radius is too much. You’d need at least 6” lift with no cutting
If anyone could help me with this question I would be incredibly appreciative!! To like the 10th power!..lol.
So I have an 2004 WJ straight 6. I typically do my own work ,but with the parts I was needing to replace I just didnt have the proper equipment for the job..lift being one . Anyway one of the new mods is the 2 inch budget lift front and back, and also 1 inch spacers for more aggressive look.
The problem now is that the tires that are on it now are LT 225/75/R16. And now with the lift ofcourse they're looking too small and goofy. I'd like to go a size upit Hope's to fill in the empty space and for more aggressive look. I would really like the either the BF Goodrench AT, or even better The General Tire Grabbers x3.
I had this same set up, same jeep, different one but same. Anyway the tire shop figured out what would fit. I only had a slight rub in the front fenders which was an easy grind down job with no further issue's. Problem is that was 15 maybe 20 years ago and I cant remember the size🤦🏼♂️. I'm more psyched about the General Grabbers because of the more aggressive look and seem more rounded if that makes sense..?
Now in my mind the mechanic whose been working on my jeep should know the answers or atleast be able to figure it out....well it's been put on my shoulders to figure out and in complete lost. My jeep is done and ready to go except for the tire situation. So I could have gotten back a week ago if not for this,but it is what it is. So if ANYONE COULD PLEASE HELP ME AND PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!! ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY BETTER IDEAS FOR TIRES YOU THINK WOULD WORK AND LOOK BETTER I AM MORE THAN OPEN TO ANY IDEAS!
SO again what I have on now are LT 225/75/r16 and I'm just looking to go a size bigger to fill in the wheel wells better. Thank you in advance! The sooner I can find out the answers the sooner I get my baby back!👍🏻
Thank you for your time,
Nick
Odds are it was a 245/75r16 or a 265/70r16. The common swap now is the 255/75r17 as they are rubicon take Offs and usually found cheap. They are taller though as require a little more trimming.
Sorry for being late to the party, but i have a question. I'm looking to add a 4" lift and bushwacker flares on my 04. I would like to run 33x12.5's on it, and am wondering what backspacing would be best with minimal extra trimming. Also have an EAG front winch bumper on it, so no trimming there.
I’ve found 4.25” backspace on 8 wide wheels to be ideal for a 12.5 wide tire. It’s the kosher ground on being far enough out to clear but not to far to sweep front and back. I find the bushwacker flares pretty minimal trimming for my liking but on a 33 should be adequate
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the quick reply. I was looking at some old black d window steelies, but they are 3.75 back spacing. Think that might be a bit too much? This rig won't be off road much, that's what my TJ and LJR are for. Lol 😁😁 still new to the WJ's.
@@bryanlail613 I suspect at that offset when flexed it’ll hit the fenders as they won’t tuck inside. My first set was 33” bajaclaw with 3.5” backspace. look up project lay-z-boy part 1 to see where I was at back then
Getting ready to install Clayton 6 inch lift on 35's 12.5 r17. I'm just having a hard time on the back space.
4.25” backspace should be close enough for you. Most steel 17’s should be easy enough to find at that
@@Scoobienorth thank you
Any videos on axles vs tire size ? Would like to know what's under both of those.
The white one is stock. The red one has a jk dana 30 up front, d44a stock rear, it had the stock d35 rear for a long time
i live just down from you, picked up a wj a few days ago, should be fun
Right on. If you have any questions or want to look further at mine let me know. Any mods. yours?
@@Scoobienorth just the usuall, i bought it with the mods , 4-5 inch lift, rack, had the jk and i have and old zj, i like this one the best
I got a stock 2000 jeep grand cherokee laredo 4x4 and want 32inch mud tires on stock rims. Can I not just cut my front fenders and put a 1inch spacer on rear rims to push it away from my back shocks so it don't hit them? I'll also take my front bumper off if need be
You need to remove the front washer bottle, cut the front fenders, rear backspacing should be fine, the skinnier tires the Easier they are to Fit. The fog lights need to be cut out.
Great video
Hey mate just curious. Do you have stock axels and have you had any issues with the larger tires on them?
The big one has a full build thread project lay z boy on my channel, starting stock drivetrain and 33’s to the jk axle up front and through 36” iroks and 37” milestar. Aside from front axle to jk d30 it’s all stock. It’s been pretty reliable. I don’t drive it to kill it. It’s strictly a wheeling rig but experience has taught me when to back off and when to go for it
I will have a 4" lift on my wj & I want to go 33" tire on 16X8 wheel. What offset would work best with that lift?
4.25” backspace is what I’d run for that setup
My wj had the washer pump ripped off on 30.5s with no lift so I relocated to the zj tank in the engine bay. Now I got 3 inch lift with 32s.
Nice. That’s similar to my white one. Nice all around etup
@@Scoobienorth only issue I have now is in 4x4, there is some grinding noise, I'm hoping it's just the front drives haft and not the transfer case
@@themrrd12345 the front driveshaft if it’s the rezeppa, can’t take much and probably the issue
@@Scoobienorth it's definitely that one I saw the part that connects to the T case is the rzeppa
What are your thoughts on getting a full Flex with a 4 inch lift kit by Rough Country or iron rock running the 265/75/ 16?
poobank my red one in the video is a 4” short arm rough country as a base starting point. They springs are long and soft so they flex well and travel well. I started on 33x12.5r 15 and the offset of the 15” rims gave me lots of rubbing. I think a 285 with minor rubbing would work at 4.25” backspace. 265 should be good to go
@MS NPC ya I had that issue on my big tire rig and wound up ditching the sway bar altogether because I couldn’t get it to clear when disconnected
I have a 2004 wj 4.0 ive bought beginning of December 2023 its lifted 2.5'. What size tires would you recommend? Its got 17 inch wrangler tires right now
I’d say you are probably on the size you need. The skinnier tires are easier to fit. Reality if you disconnect your sway bar and flex those tires will already rub. It’ll only get worse as you go wider or taller
Thank you!
Brilliant video
I’m about to use the same wheels to mount 255/70R17 and 2” coil spacers, do you think doing 2” bump stop extensions will minimize the cutting in the rear?
I’m comfortable doing a little cutting in the front but nervous about the rear- it’s primarily a daily but I want to hit the off-road park as well
Brilliant video dude
I only removed the fender liners and hammered the sharp edges back. I never cut the rear, they tuck, it doesn’t rub even at full flex with my 2” and 255’s on jk wheels
@@Scoobienorth so I’m an off-road noob, my thought is that where I live the roads are salty and removing the liners is asking for trouble
Will I be giving up too much performance if I do the bump stops to maintain the liners as much as possible?
@@fiveseven160 with the fender liners you’ll only fit a stock tire in the hole or minimally lager if you actually fully flex the vehicle
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the tip. Wouldn’t the longer bump stops limit articulation and allow a larger tire without bashing the liner?
@@fiveseven160 yes it would but I think you’d have enough bumpstop to negatively effect the Jeep overall and make it worse.
So with just 2" would you say 30.5 x 9.5 17 would be just fine. I bought the rc blocks with shocks I really don't need big tires just more aggressive options at 245 70 17 which is about 1.5 taller and .5 wider . Great video by the way
Like I said in the video it depends on your backspace on the wheels but that should be doable. May have issues if you disconnect the front sway bar with tire contact on your washer bottle
@@Scoobienorth thanks for the response, I don't plan on disconnecting, this will be more of a camping light trail rig. And running stock 17" rims as of now
great info. is your wj quadra-drive?
The white one has the awd system, but not the varilok diffs, the wheeling one has the select trac case but they have proven to be a big issue and unreliable
Hey can i fit 35’s on 4 inch lift kit with bushwhackers fanders?
Bushwackers don’t cut enough. Look at my red one or project lay z boy on my channel. You’ll want close to that much cutting to get 35’s on, you won’t need the full tub I did in the rear.
I'm running 33x12.5 15's on 15x8 -19mm offset rims to clear over knuckle steering. also running a 4 inch long arm lift and cutout fender flares. How is the gearing and breaking with those 37's?
Honestly the gearing sucks but I get by with it. Mostly manually shifting it to Keep rpms between 2-4500 rpm. There crawl ratio really sucks and hurts me sometimes offroad but I usually drive around it. It’s been fairly reliable as is and that’s more the goal The jk brakes up front helped a bunch but again it’s not great. I built it to snow wheel and it stops fine on ice and snow. It’s not unsafe with the brakes but definitely worse than stock.
@@Scoobienorth gotcha I've been considering 4.10 gears but maybe I'll hold off to see what 35" tires are like
@@buck6ify I’d go straight to 4.56 or 4.88 if I was regearing. I actually have 5.13’s in the shed for mine. The overdrive is very tall
You also need to remember the roads i was traveling are mountains , so 20-30km of 7-10% grades is fairly normal
Vary informative young man , I want to put on 285,70, 17 on an 05 Cherokee can I do it without to much cutting.
An 05 should be a wk first of the ifs. I’m not sure on that chassis but as all grands the wheel wells are small and wheel offset is key. Best chance is on stock wheels and adjust the steering stops in so you don’t rub the inside too hard when steering
Ok thank's again
I'm gonna fit 42"x15x17" tyres with Volvo portal axles and 7.55 gear ratios, air shocks and diy long arm kit. I think I need grind little more than that :D
Love to see the build and it in action. You’ll be cut at least as far as my red one. Portals are awesome.
@@Scoobienorth Maybe I make a build video series in youtube. I can post link here. Built starts maybe in few month
@@AM-we5bj even trying to film a bunch can be daunting and time consuming but even a few quick walk around updates would be great
@@Scoobienorth yeah. I believe that. But Im still trying to do that.
What kind of bumper is that without the fog light cut outs I'm looking for one?
Both are stock bumpers with the fog lights cut out.
I like to call it the "Baja Special" cut. I did the same to my WJ.
Can you tell me what the biggest 17 inch tire I can run on my stock wj no lift
Something like 245/65r17 I think. Equivalent to a 245/70r16.
OK, GREAT VidClip! But let me ask, I have a 2" lift on a 2000 WJ. I bought P255/70 R18's on OEM Wrangler wheels and I've been told they won't work on my WJ. Your thoughts? PLUS, I don't want to cut anything on the body, so I may be stuck with some useless rims and tires! LOL THANKS in advance for your time and consideration! Aloha
I’m running 255/70/R18 on my 2004 WJ and I have a 4 inch lift. I had to do a little trimming but not much, so with a 2 inch lift you’ll have to do quite a bit more and I don’t think they’ll fit without trimming
Jason Seitz I’m currently running them and have full flex. And yes I’ve done trimming. Like I said tire fit is more about how much bumpstop you add and how much you stretch the wheelbase and less about lift height.
Terry. You will have rubbing issues. Bumpstops will help along with limiting your steering angle and if you don’t flex much you can get away with it a bit.
@@jasonseitz3314 Thanks you guys! Great information! MUCH appreciated! Aloha
@@terryridge4596 What year wrangler wheels do you have and do you need wheel adapters to bolt them on. My 2004 wj came with 245-70-16 wheels and People are selling brand new 17in new tires on wrangler rims all the time for $200-$250 where I live. I thought about a 2in lift and a set of wrangler 17in but I haven’t found anyone that can tell me for sure if you need wheel adapters or if they will bolt right on.
Would you have been able to fit 33x10.5x17 on the silver WJ without spacers? Im currently running 255/75/17 but the tire I want comes in a 33x10.5x17, which is .5" wider and 1" taller.
The height isn't the thing I am worried about, I am more worried about the width.
I’ve pounded my firewall back already so I suspect a 33 would rub when turning especially as it articulates. I think the 33 would also rub the frame when turning hard if it doesn’t hit the firewall. I don’t think the width would be much of an issue except possibly on the rear, which could be trimmed to stop that
@@Scoobienorth Thanks for the quick response. I think I am going to give the 33s a try, worst case scenario I will put on wheel spacers. Also I have a 3" lift, and in the rear I am putting a 3/8" coil spacer.
@@tylerdubois9020 Any update, did you get it sorted out and what did you do ?
@@immelting9834 Still havent put larger tires yet. I have a 3" iron rock lift, going to put 3/8" spacer in the rear. I trimmed the front fenders and the rear I did piecuts. I then installed 1.25" hubcentric spacers. I dont see why the 33s wouldnt fit. Once I get a little more miles out of my current 32s I am going to upgrade.
@@tylerdubois9020 I'm on 285/70/17 ( 32.8 x 11.3 ) with iron rock link long arms front and rear. 1.25 spacers . I'm at exactly 3.5 inches of lift with me , wife and camping gear, hidden winch synthetic rope. hacked up Stock bumpers ( less weight than heavy ass steel bumpers) . I cut and folded my front , then used a fender roller ( Eastwood) and rolled it all nice and was even able to " flare" it out a little.the rear was cut a little folded and JB welded the 2 rear fenders together. I have no rubbing.
They do look gd in white! My 2001 wj 4.7 is totally standard, I'd like to have slightly larger tyres to fill the arch abit more! Can I? And what size is a maximum?
Terry Stratford is your not trimming stock is all you fit. The washer bottle is right on the stock 245/70r16’s. I ripped three pumps out backing up when I started all of this
@@Scoobienorth people like u save me £ and embarrassment! Alot of work to fit bigger rubber! Appreciate the reply! Thku!
@@Scoobienorth will a set of 265/75/16 lt fit on a 4” lift rough country? I barely know anything about lifts. Thanks.
@@juaneramirez3350 I think that is what rough country says fits. Should be fine as that lift has couple inches of spacer on the bump stop.
I have 4 inch zone lift running rubicon wheels and tires and i only rub at full turn on my control arm
Hi guys, well, can I go 255/70r16 at fully stock?
Like I said , if you are stock with no cutting a stock size 245/70r16 is all that fits. The washer bottle is almost rubbing tire stock
Thanx you helped me a lot!! You know your wj's, I see you have an imported one is it a crd?
It’s a 4.0L. I got a good deal on it and the parts are the same as my other one so it’s handy
I just bought an '04 want to go 4" with 33" with a 16" rim. What rims & tires are you going with?
@@newlion7013 I find 4.25” backspace is pretty close to the sweet spot between balancing the tire sweep front to back (scrub radius) and clearance of the frame for steering
@@newlion7013 I’m using 37’s on a jk front diff in my wheeling rig with a 4” lift and I’m on 255/75r17 on factory jk wheels with a 2” lift and trimming up front
@@Scoobienorth good ol bulletproof 4.0
Hey there..i have 2000 Jeep wj laredo with 2 inch lift kit from iron man.. it has tires size 245 70 r16...if i install bigger tires like 255 75 r16 will these tires incrase the height of my car? If the answer is yes, can you please tell me how much will increasing in inches...and if the answer is No.. can i add 1 inch spacers on it? Because i want to go on trip crosing about 6000 km in 2 months on my wj, will my car be good on highways?... and thank you🖤
I know this is late but i figured you could benefit from hearing a response. A lift kit will increase the lift the vehicle's clearance, however will not raise the height of the differential's and axles. Lift kits also allow an increase in tire sizes, as well as articulation (ability for the vehicle to flex when going over obstacles).
A 245/70/R16 tire is approximately 29.5" tall. A 255/75/R16 tire is a 31" tire. So while the tire's overall height is going to increase by 1.5", the vehicle's height (and differential/axle height)will only go up by half, so .75".
However, increasing your tire size will also lead to a larger 'footprint' for traction and ability to grip obstacles and terrain. On the WJ, you should be fine running up to a 31" tire without needing to regear the diff's, but keep in mind that you are suggested to re-gear the differentials to be able to turn the larger tires with less strain. things will get expensive quick.
This is the physical part of it, but what about the gears and axels?
This is tough to answer, they aren’t known for being very tough, and 20 years ago I probably would have broken everything in short order on 33’s, that being said my big one was/is mostly stock on 37’s and done well, the d35 rear made 4 years of hard wheeling, 2 of those on 36-37” tires. If you are smooth driver you can wheel pretty hard on 33-35 tires on a stock wj
What is biggest size of tire on 17" wheel without any lift ?
245/65r17
@@Scoobienorth Thanks
245 75 17 on a 01 wj, no lift or spacers. Will the tires rub?
Depends on backspace, yes it’ll rub a bit or a lot. Stock size is all that will clear on a stock wj
@@Scoobienorth what about the 245 75 r16 will they rub in s 99 wj
@@The-JMartian probably at full flex and steering but be okay most of the time. Literally anything over factory will hit the washer bottle with out front sway bar
Can I fit 32x11.5x15 with minimum cutting ?????
Did you watch the video? How much lift, bumpstop do you have? Rim backspace? It all matters to answer the question. My white one in the video has 32x10.5 with 2” lift, stock bumps and clears but is cut and hammered up front
FINALLY someone saying lifts don’t give tire clearance
Generally every Jeep SUV "not counting the 4 door wranglers" except the widetrack FSJ's cant fit much bigger than 31-33 inch tires without rubbing stuff and needing to go to huge lifts and doing crazy things like cutting the body of the vehicle.. this means the wagoneers and grand wagoneers, and all the grand cherokee's will have rubbing with tires 33 inchs or bigger. I think once you start getting into needing to cut the vehicle and hack it, you get into territory that makes things a little too trashy for me
Fair enough. Cutting isn’t for everyone. Where I live we get a lot of snow and tire size rules, on my 255’s I can’t go into the back country 6-7 months of the year. A wider 33 would allow me another month maybe 2. 37’s I can run 10 months of the year
can i put a 285/70/17 on my jeep wj 99?
What’s done to it? Rim specs, trimming, suspension?
@@Scoobienorth NOTHING I THINK.. SORRY IM A WJ NOOB I JUST GOT HER. SHES A 4.7 LAREDO WITH THE ADDED Up Country Suspension Group SO I THINK IT GIVES IT A BIT OF A SMALL lift. I want to be able to add 17's because I cant find a set of decent looking second hands for her. Has the stock 16's now
@@jeffreystine7068 a 285 is a tough fit, stock about all you will fit is a 31” tire max and you’ll need some trimming. 32 with more trimming, ideally you’ll want about 4.25-4.5” backspace on the rims. Stock wrangler wheels like my white one fit though and easy enough to fit
I don't know what this guy's talking about I got a 2-in lift and I have 265 70 17s on it that's a 31 in tire and I believe I can get a 33 inch tire in there because of the room I have left with the 31 in tire. I only had to trim out the front bumper
I think I made a mistake and he is saying what I have will work. But mine doesn't hit the fluid bottle with my setup and I want to go to 33 in tires
What makes a big difference is adding adjusting track bars
Yes everything is tight enough that you need to make sure your tires are in the right place, at 2” lift it isn’t bad at all, any more though and you are losing.
Most people end up getting a 4 inch lift
Have the same 17" rims with 265x70/17 DuraTracs, 3" lift, adjustable track bar and rear sway bar delete. Only trimmed front bumper. Front rub on lower control arm and rear rub on the shocks and just rub the paint off front and rear edge of rear wheel wells. Flexes very well and needs no metal trimming or clearancing.
@@bugsnstuff5643 that’s interesting I have a 4 inch lift 285x70x17 general grabber on my wj
Why do you have a RHD WJ
I’ve got lots of knowledge with them, like the platform as a cheap rig so I imported a clean low mileage one from Japan.
So 33x12.5 are probably are fine,
Depends on lift, bumpstop , offset off wheel and trimming thats been done or ready to do
I'll just keep my 32s
All these Jeeps ride so hard. Bigger tires might help but I’d think you’d need 35+ to make a difference and by then you’d probably need a bunch of suspension mods or drivetrain
Meh
My white one rides pretty decent. If you drive them to kill them, you’ll succeed but they take a fair bit of punishment and work really well for the money. The triangulated rear suspension in the wj helps the ride a lot and the grands seem to be balanced better than the wrangler or maybe it’s the weight further back behind the rear axle on the overhang that helps.
bad work
What’s part? The video or Jeeps? The red one I have been honest about from the start, it was for me to learn on. There’s so much misinformation , everyone says you need long arms, one tons and 40+ inch tires to go offroad. I did as much at I could with as little as possible. It works well for what it is. My video skills are lacking. I don’t do enough to get them where they should be
And further more the information in this video is very much correct, rarely talked about and factor very much into maximizing tire size under any vehicle but this one in particular. I had no ones it would garner nearly 40k views either