Alvin and the Chipmunks - The History & Fandom (DOCUMENTARY)
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I grew up with the cgi version being my special interest.. i was one of those kids who was a victim of unsupervised internet access and let’s say these creeps intensely affected me. Same thing with the bronies.
Same here. It scarred me for life. I'm really sorry you went through all of that. Creeps do not belong in the fandom. They need to burn.
I just loved the Alvin and the chipmunks series so thought I'd enjoy this. I could happily have gone the rest of my life without knowing people made p**n of it. Humans are disgusting
Yeah. It's pretty fucked up. I can't stand people who actually do that shit.
Every day,we stay further from god.
People do that
Makes you question what their personal lives are like. Ya know?
i grew up watching em too its one of my top favorite movies
Alvin being my favorite chipmunk
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Jeanette being my favorite chipette
Kinda strange that there really isn’t that much documentary’s about Alvin and the Chimpmunks. Because I feel there has to be a lot of history in the band.
I became a Chipmunks fan before I even learned how to speak. I remember my abuela had an Alvin doll that she gave to me when I was four. In 2012, my parents rented Chipwrecked as a present. When I was in first grade, I would watch that franchise on repeat like a broken record. I am a Chipmunks fan. Now, looking back on the movies though, I see where critics are coming from. A lot of the humor can be a bit juvenile and crude, and some of the writing is a little predictable with the movies having no connecting tissue, but I just can’t help but feel that cozy sense of nostalgia I had with these characters ever since then and even when I started going back to the 80s cartoon. It’s in my collection and world of imaginative nostalgia in my head like Home Alone (1990), Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992), Baby’s Day Out (1994), We’re Back! A Dinosaur’s Story (1993), 90s Marvel cartoons, The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), Hulk (2003), and anything Don Bluth did.
And I think the stories that the movies gave us were great ideas! They just weren’t what I pictured entirely in execution. For example, in Chipwrecked, I would’ve liked it if we saw a little bit more of Alvin and Brittney’s relationship and dynamic. You have one that’s all about jokes and making everyone laugh and very hyperactive, and the other one acts like an irritable diva who, while very sweet, has as much of not an even bigger ego than Alvin. Alvin has an ego sure, but I always saw it has him having more of an artist full of ideas and focused on his own craft. A guy in his own la-La land. But when his family and friends are hurt, he’ll always be there and do whatever it takes to help. Even if it’ll get him in trouble. With Brittany, her selfishness is mostly due to vanity. Alvin’s a lot like my abuelito in which he’s very silly, stubborn and funny, but also sweet and loving. A man who’s care free. But Alvin is also a lot like my dad in which he has a sarcastic sense of humor and lives to make jokes. Which is also what I do sometimes now that I think of it. But another side of him that is like me is the fact that he uses humor and fun to push aside the stress that the world pressures him with. And simply, his own sadness and desires like wanting attention and being accepted by his own family and friends.
But anyway, back onto Chipwrecked, so finally when they end up on that Island, Brittney, Alvin, Jeannette, and Simon now have to take care of their siblings and keep them safe from any harm despite having some knowledge of nature to begin with. This can be where Brittney realizes that Alvin is really a person who has been through so much just like her since he and his brothers lost their parents at a young age, bullied for being a goof, and how he uses his humor to deflect from that. And simply, just someone who wants a friend. But secretly is too socially awkward to brave through his shyness around others. This is where Brittany sees a mirror reflection of herself. How she’s more caring for her family and herself than others.
Going through the pain and suffering that she and her sisters went through with Ms. Grudge, she becomes more tough-minded and very eager and competitive along with her animalistic attacking roots kicking in when she or her sisters are being belittled or mistreated. She sees originally sees Alvin as someone with his head in the clouds, someone who’s an over the top clown who doesn’t take life seriously, but as she discovers his past and what he himself went through, she then feels bad for him and his inner struggle, and learns to respect him when she sees how much he’s tried to make her and everyone else and himself feel better. And how he never gives up in that he always thinks of a new way. How he thinks about her. Trying to do whatever he can to make her smile.
And Alvin sees that Brittany is just lost in her identity and how she’s competitive for the sake of wanting to feel like the bigger animal instead of the small critter. And how she uses that sassy animalistic attitude to fight them off. And someone who has also been through a lot as well. Alvin has known for years that Brittany’s a good person, because he knows that she’s lacking someone to help her. He’s been in her shoes and wants her to realize her issues sooner and embrace life sooner than he did when his mother died. He’s like the kind of old man where he’ll watch the inexperienced one Gail when they refuse to listen to him, laugh, and then show them how it’s done. But with Brittany, he takes it more personally. So, the more time they spend on the island, the more they learn to become friends, respect each other, and potentially, a cute little couple with playful banter. See, we keep that sarcastic banter, but we see that they’ve grown as characters, and Alvin’s arc would already had been complete, going from a naïve youngster, to a cheeky but sad clown, and throughout Squeakquel and Chipwrecked, becomes a more humble and mature person. But still horses around once and a while. Satisfies any fan, but also non fans too.
And even the whole concept of the franchise could be something where, animals have a secret human intellect which explains how the chipmunks can sing, but they try to keep that part of them a low profile to avoid being hunted and sold for ransom. And it could be about the chipmunks putting themselves out there to not just become more than who they are in nature, but also help those around them by showing the people that their animal kind deserves the amount of praise that they’ve been getting and especially not using them because of their speaking ability. Kind of like Toy Story (1995) where the Toys come to life when no one’s around. And also like Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (1988) where humans later in the series now have animals interact in human society without having to be nervous about being hunted or destroyed.
I mean, it might sound a little ridiculous, and a bit confusing as I’m just throwing ideas from my head, but I just have my own little concept that doesn’t create dumb fan fiction like Alvin going into the military, or any R rated love stories or anything like that weird Alvin and Simon relationship nightmare fuel. I’m wanting to write something that’s reminiscent of old Don Bluth films from the 80s like The Secret of NIMH (1982) or An American Tail (1986). You know, something that’s for children, and adults alike. And keep in mind that I’m only fifteen. I’ve always related with Alvin because I always saw him as like, the funny old man, while Simon was more of the Studious and responsible old man. I’ve struggled with ADD just like Alvin. I’ve had people who were irritated with me for being silly and fun just like Alvin. And I even had a crush on a girl who was absolutely 100% like Brittany just like Alvin. And I always saw Alvin as the kind of person who has self esteem problems because of how he sees the people around him react to him. But he still puts a smile on his face to keep the others from worrying about him. And tries everything he can to make it right. I mean yeah he’s stubborn and very sarcastic, but it’s like how an old person is sarcastic and stubborn.
Now, if any of you have any more ideas about my concept or even a concept for a chipmunks movie of your own, please let me know! I would LOVE to hear about it. And let me know what you think of the idea.
Great analysis, and keep up the great work and video edits you create! Share this with Granditamias if you can!
Woah what an essay
@@CutePieLovesPie Yeah. I know. But I just thought I could try to discuss someone about these ideas I have. I thought it would get some attention.
@@nikomatallana4102 lol it’s okay I like it
here after listening to dozens of hours of 16 speed, finally wanting to learn the actual lore as someone who's never seen any Chipmunk content besides the less than good 2000's remakes
edit: jesus that got darker in the end than I expected it would. I guess R34 really is that all encompassing lol. You should do a video on the 16 speed renditions of the Chipmunks' music. There's a lot of great stuff out there. It's basically just a group of people who slow down the songs closer to their original speed and because the singers had to really enunciate the lyrics the result is this grimy sort of post punk sound that's genuinely really enjoyable for the most part. Guaranteed that in the comment section for every single 16 speed video there's at least one comment spouting a fake story about 'GG Alvin' lol, its pretty funny
Thanks for the shoutout. This was a very thorough documentary. However, I’m not sure if Rocking Through the Decades came out in January of 1991, I had always heard September of 1990 (but don’t quote me on that), and it didn’t have Micheal Jackson. Though it did have Will Smith. I was certainly shocked by the fan art you showed, even though it was censored. Even though no one can truly get rid of that stuff, I wish it would stay out of the main areas of the fandom where we actually like to discuss what actually makes Alvin and The Chipmunks great. I didn’t join the fandom until 2017 but I never encountered that stuff then and I don’t know what the fandom was like in its early days, though I hope to see it prosper someday and not be toxic. Anyway, great video.
I think the Rockin' Through the Decades (or as it's now called Rockin' With the Chipmunks) did have Michael Jackson in it as well as Will Smith. Will Smith was the host yes. But Michael Jackson did appear but it was just with song segments where it looked like Alvin was supposed to be dancing with him in a couple of his music videos. Probably should've mentioned that in the video but oh well. And yes, I do believe the the pornography of the chipmunks should be killed off but sadly we can't really do anything about it. And I only put the censored content in there, is mainly to show with what I was talking about so it would fit. I did the same process for everything else as well so every footage that I show in the video would correspond with what I was talking about. I also did that so it would look professionally done. But thanks for the criticism though. I really do appreciate it none the less.
Michael Jackson was featured in rocking through the decades, though it wasn't in an active role like the hosting gig will Smith had with it. The only Michael that appeared in it was only clips of his music videos, Beat it & Smooth Criminal. They used clips from the already existing music videos, and animated Alvin to look as if he was dancing alongside MJ. (A pretty clever/funny gag was in the Beat it video - when Alvin was animated in, as if he was struggling to keep up with the dance steps and choreo. Michael and his dancers have a kick in the choreo, so they animated Alvin in getting his rear kicked by accident. Smooth criminal has a similar gag, again Alvin struggling to keep up with the dance steps - and when Michael does that gravity defying lean forward, Alvin tries and smacks right to the floor. I must say, that was my favorite VHS as a kid and it definitely ignited my lifelong Michael jackson admiration.)
There were other celebrities who had cameo parts, where they acted as if they were auditioning to host, vying for will smith's job. I can remember little Richard.... the woman from the shining, her name I can't recall at the moment.... there was a country music star as well but I can't remember. I still have the vhs though!
Here we go. I can't believe they could make a vhs only 20 mins long back then and sell it lol! I'm so glad they did though. I love this thing with all my heart. I must credit it with developing my interest in music production as well.
Oh, OK I see from this video it was a TV special? Makes much more sense for that 20 min run. And with the way it's hosted by will Smith. You'll see what I mean here:
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Its a shame the Alvin show didn't last longer during the 60s. Atleast 4 seasons. It also hasnt been aired on tv since the mid 90s.
Nothing could’ve prepared me for the end of this video
Having just re watched this, I noticed I didn't comment last time LOL I just have to say that it's a really thought out documentary!
Personally though, I think the adult artwork portraying the characters, isn't necessarily exclusive to this franchise, pretty much every single property is subjected to this in some way, you can somewhat get away with it with the chipmunks because of the ambiguity regarding their age, but it gets considerably worse the more research you do, for instance you can unfortunately find an entire cult of artwork on characters such as Lisa Simpson who is 8 years old. And it's frankly just weird. Someone once said to me that people who draw this artwork are better off doing it, then hurting real children.
Hmm...good point. But thanks for commenting! I appreciate the feedback regardless. c:
I would argue that in the 80s cartoon series they were confirmed to be eight. However some artists in the fandom aged up the characters. But yeah, you're right, you can find stuff like this in every fandom with child characters and its sad :( there are some very sick people out there
@@strawberrycola1994 Oh yeah, Ross himself all but confirmed that in my talks with him, I suppose i was referring to later incarnations.
Just shocked the puppeteer at 5:14 was Beanie and Cecil creator and Looney Tunes director Bob Clampett.
Damn this is honestly really well made and researched, kudos!
Thanks! :D
This video was really good! I was introduced to the chipmunks from the 2007 movie then started renting dvds with 80s chipmunks episodes from blockbuster shortly after. After watching the cartoon episodes I was obsessed. I didn't really get involved with the fandom though until maybe my preteens or teens, especially by 2015. Unfortunately, that was around the time I decided I needed to leave. Some of the fan art was very suggestive, it creeped me out. There were some creepy fanfictions. People were obsessed with Alvon. It was all over deviantart in the fandom. My fifteen year old brain was trying to figure out why those things were so off putting when I had seen the same crap in anime fandoms and realized, 'wait these characters are children :(:('. I came to the conclusion that the fandom was a community of creeps and wanting nothing to do with it. Years later, I'm back into rewatching episodes and stumbled across this vid. Just overall, thanks for making this video and addressing some of the main issues the fandom had. Its such a shame that it drove many people away. I missed loving this franchise, I think a lot of people have.
I'm glad you agree. The fandom is definitely not what it used to be and it honestly makes me quite sad because AATC was my childhood. To see it ruined with the creepy fanfics and fanart, just dissappoints me. Ross Bagdasarian Sr. would be rolling in his grave right now.
@@x.itsren For sure. And so many people were making beautiful art work in the fandom, really miss that. Also I made some typos that I had to correct in my original comment.
Yeah. It’s just downright sinful. Having all this gross sexual tensions between siblings is just so…repulsive. I mean, the fan art I, a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD kid see with Alvittany, Simonette, and Theonore, that’s fine. It’s just nice, sweet, mentally healthy stuff. But Alvin and Brittany attracted to their siblings , I mean…what the hell do these people do in their personal life? And yeah, The real life David Seville would see what his creation was turned into like this, and just feel so dirty.
Discovered the whole Alvin and the Chipmunks through the whole Slowmunk/Chipmunks on 16 speed prism. This was a fun (if not always savory, unfortunately) jaunt through their older history =)
Quite a history for the Alvin and the Chipmunks series.
Indeed! lol
@@x.itsren I grew up with some Alvin and the Chipmunk, though it was mainly the 90's incarnation and I only saw the 1st live-action film.
thank you so much for making this! Its a rare feeling to be nostalgic & learning at the same time. I loved it!
You’re welcome! 😎
Very nice video. I remember watching an episode of Cinderella 1983 version at my dads house. Memories 😢
Oooooh what a documentary!! Love it Ren!!
I noticed that in the original cartoon we see Ross Sr drawn, the 80s version of the cartoon is a cartoon of Ross jr who brought the cartoon back updated.
The whole franchise has a very special place in my heart. But for the longest time, in the song “Christmas Don’t Be Late”, I thought the line was “Christmas, Christmas time is here” but when I listened to it through this video it was “Near” not “Here”. I know it’s very minor but I’ve gone my whole life thinking that it was “Here” lol.
Christmas is super cool
This is such a through documentary, thank you for making this👍👍
You're welcome! c:
This video is so underrated how do you have only 56 likes 😁
Thanks for the shoutout, that was an awesome video
You're welcome! And thanks! :D
Finally!!! A documentary of the chipmunks!!!!
Awesome doc, Ren!
Also question, where is this 1990 documentary titled Aatc 5 Decades With The Chipmunks? I wasn't aware there was one🤔
Thank you! And honestly, I'm not exactly sure where it is tbh.
Hold up. I think it's the same thing as Rockin' with the Chipmunks but just with a different name at the time. lmao
@@x.itsren Oop lol
I have never seen the original, I only saw the 2 most recent versions :0
This is a good video ♡
Thank you! cx
i learn they 1st came out in 1958 which is cool
Thanks for the history lesson!
No problem. lol
I got into this franchise for years! I love this franchise! Big reason why my mind contains an alternate universe as a reimagination of the franchise!
That's awesome! Glad to hear that! ^-^
And being an otaku, it's a big mix of this franchise! So hey, it's a great to be a munk fan mixed being an otaku
I love the Chipmunks and how did they make inappropriate pictures because they're disgusting on how they made these pictures?
I love AATC too. But unfortunately, those people who make that vile and disgusting artwork of the characters is usually done with art programs on computers and stuff. It's honestly sad because they could do so much more with their artistic talents of the chipmunks without having disturbing/NSFW content. Unfortunately, that won't ever change since they're legit pedos and are just that toxic. It's sad but true. I hate it just as much as every other sane person would. Best thing we can do, is just stay away from those kinds of people or expose them. That's really about it.
Great job
Thanks man! 😎🤘🏻
Nice Motley Crue shirt
Thanks! :3
nice video
But, I think Theodore is smarter than Alvin even though he’s the youngest of the chipmunks and I know Simon is smarter than both Alvin and Theodore since, he’s the smartest one of the chipmunks.
Alvin’s a pretty smart and intelligent guy, it’s just in a different way. Simon is a mathematical and biological genius, whereas Alvin is an ARTISTIC, smart and creative genius. They’re both geniuses, just in different ways and with different topics they both love. They’re also like two old souls with different views on the world. Simon is basically a mix of Fraiser Crane and Dean Martin, whereas Alvin is like a mix between Chandler Bing, Jerry Lewis. It’s like a handsome wise Boy Scout (Simon) mixed with a handsome wise artistic clown (Alvin) That’s how I would put it. Two wise old people with polar opposite views and interests. But are kind and considerate all around.
we re all smart but in different ways i remember one episode Alvin used math equations when it involved his hair n Simon asked how he could know all dat n still be bad at math
but anyway theyre all smart just in different ways like de above comment stated
Good video
Thanks! c:
Cool documentary. I’d say most of the stuff here I already know, but it’s still cool nonetheless. I’m 19 I still very much enjoy the live action movies to the point where I personally call them cinematic masterpieces. They also have the best movie soundtracks of all time in my opinion. The 80s and Nickelodeon show from what I’ve seen is just ok, though the 60s stuff has peaked my interest. I’d agree the shipping with the siblings is just gross. But yeah, I think you did a good job on this documentary.
Thank ya. I appreciate it. :3
Yes, we all know Simon is the smartest character from Alvin and the Chipmunks along with Jeanette but, what about Alvin, Theodore, Dave, Brittany and Eleanor's level of intelligence. What are their levels of their intelligence besides Simon and Jeanette?
Since Alvin was basically seen scheming all around i guess he was quite smart?
Normal intelligence
Alvin’s a pretty smart and intelligent guy, it’s just in a different way. Simon is a mathematical and biological genius, whereas Alvin is an ARTISTIC, smart and creative genius. They’re both geniuses, just in different ways and with different topics they both love. They’re also like two old souls with different views on the world. Simon is basically a mix of Fraiser Crane and Dean Martin, whereas Alvin is like a mix between Chandler Bing, Jerry Lewis. It’s like a handsome wise Boy Scout (Simon) mixed with a handsome wise artistic clown (Alvin) That’s how I would put it. Two wise old people with polar opposite views and interests. But are kind and considerate all around.
if u guys ever watched de 2015 episode cant remember which one
Simon s iq is stated to be 154 n Alvins 102
i had a few of those albums but i lost em i even had my undeniAble😢
Anything should be left alone. Everything that is brought back from the past is always molded into what whom ever brings them back to be. New ideas should be the only things made.
Yep 👍🏻 me too
Something about Alvin and the Chipmunks has always bothered me. Ross bagdasarian makes me uncomfortable for some reason, the chipettes have always been weirdly sexualized, the live action movies were terrible and uncanny, the most recent cartoon feels soulless and their designs have gradually become more and more human with every iteration.
The way they make me feel is the antithesis of the Teenage mutant ninja turtles. I would gladly invite the turtles into my home, whereas If I came across the chipmunks I would lock my doors and board my windows immediately and hope it wasn't already too late.
I agree with some points of your comment but idk how Ross would make you feel uncomfortable when you don't even know the man. As for the live-action movies, while yes the plots weren't always great, the character designs at least were (especially from 2007 'cause damn for a 2007 film, the animation and character dersigns were the only thing good about the films). As for the 80's-90's series, I do believe each episode had a good story put into it. However, I do agree that they looked way too human and the Chipettes being sexualized is definitely weird to me indeed. And even in the current series from 2015 to now, it just isn't really as good as it once was so far as story-telling and character design. Idk why they have chipmunks looking like humans because tbh, it looks awful to me. Like, if they're going to look like chipmunks, they need to look like chipmunks. Not these weird humanoid creatures that look like a spawn from hell.
And, let’s not forget Dave and The Chiplettes as well
Now you have to add in sludgefest lore to the list
I think it might be a bit too late for me to do that, but thanks for the suggestion! :3
I like the Alvin and the chip minks
But, what about Theodore is he smart too?
I mean, he's smart when it comes to cooking and food so far as what I know.
OK 👍
But, I think Theodore is smarter than Alvin, right?
No. That's Simon.
@@x.itsren Alvin’s a pretty smart and intelligent guy, it’s just in a different way. Simon is a mathematical and biological genius, whereas Alvin is an ARTISTIC, smart and creative genius. They’re both geniuses, just in different ways and with different topics they both love. They’re also like two old souls with different views on the world. Simon is basically a mix of Fraiser Crane and Dean Martin, whereas Alvin is like a mix between Chandler Bing, Jerry Lewis. It’s like a handsome wise Boy Scout (Simon) mixed with a handsome wise artistic clown (Alvin) That’s how I would put it. Two wise old people with polar opposite views and interests. But are kind and considerate all around.
@@x.itsrenAlvins smart in a way more of street smart while Simons book smart n teddys more culinary arts smart