I Watched Peter Pan & Wendy So You Don’t Have To
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- So Disney’s latest live-action remake that no one asked for came out this week in the form of Peter Pan & Wendy. As of today the film has gaslit, gatekept, and girlbossed its way to a 15% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a 4.2/10 on IMDB. Let’s break it down.
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I watched it with my daughter today. She turned it off before it was even over. Disney, when a 10-year-old thinks your Peter Pan movie is boring and stupid, you've failed.
Damn @disney #disney +, your movie sucks
Your daughter gets it. Does she like the original?
No offense but that’s a single kid lol
Yes my granddaughter said it was boring too
I love most Disney movies and even as an adult and I could not sit through it🥱. I feel like if they could not copy the original or make it better than the Robin Williams version (which will be very hard) then they should have waited😢
If a woman can't be powerful without beating men or degrading men... She is not strong, just an agenda. A strong woman shows you she is strong without having to tell you.
YES! Strong women don't need to go around announcing they are strong, nor do they need to tear others down to "prove" their inner strength!
Funny, I do know one nation always go around and announce they're strong (even claim they're stronger than U.S) ;) ;) Maybe, this movie is their movie =))
💯% Agree
Preach
Like Furiosa in Mad max fury road.
She is mostly silent but you can tell she is strong because of her actions, not just a dialog, she isn't trying to prove her strength to other.
That's an empowering woman character done right
Wendy is gentle, nurturing, soft spoken and loving, she is one of the most feminine characters, she reminds the boys that they can't stay there forever and wakes them up from their trance like state without being harsh or mean. She embodies the mother and makes them miss home. All the kids see a mother in her. She's pure and kind. That's why I like her so much. Why is that apparently not good enough? That's divine feminine. Why are women only good enough when they act like men?
It's teaching kids to stop being kids, and to grow up and start taking on adult roles. Oh, I get the new version now. They are directing this at a generation that isn't growing up.
💯% Agree
Because mother is not the agenda when population control demands strong independent girl bosses and non reproductive homosexual relationships
Oh God, "the Devine feminine", can't we just let women be who they want.
Idk. Maybe it's just that I have a lot more Tink in me than I do Wendy lol
@@jessicamessica2271 who said women can't be who they want to be? What the hell were you reading? Cuz it surely wasn't my comment. This is about Wendy and why I appreciate her so much. I don't know why you made this about you being Tinkerbell. 💀
So basically they took a character that cared about strangers and turned her into a character that wants to justify only caring about herself? What a great moral to the story.
"boss woman" mentality XD complete garbage
The Robin Williams movie had different races of people too. No one complained.
@@vertigo2894 and in a fantastic (lit.) movie, it really doesn't matter. also, pirates can be different races.
As far as I'm concerned, that's not an version Wendy, that's Wanda, surprised they didn't make her fat.
A very appropriate moral for the Disney execs who seem to care only about themselves and their agenda and don't care at all about what the public actually wants to see.
Wendy's whole character is based on being a wonderfully nurturing, smart woman. Making women more like men is not empowering. It's erasing women.
I need that on a t shirt!
Yes. Exactly. Very smart observation. They should find a way to empower femininity itself not just having a vagina and then being a man with it. It's like they already decided that men have it figured out, being a boy and then a man is the right way to be and being a feminin nurturing soul, a future mother ist nothing but a BREEDING COOKING SLAVE (Not acknowledging that you would "breed" and "nurture" your own beloved family but if you work for strangers it's empowering. So. Stupid. So backwards. My girlfriend (who has become conservative now with me in this relationship over time) has recently been offended because I said "man I wish to be in the garden and working for us with my hands and creating beautiful things for us with my own labor. And then you would bring me snacks and something to drink out that would be so wholesome" . She was INSTANTLY offended with a "wow......." Not realizing that 1) I work for US way harder in that moment so actually I would be the oppressed one 2) that there is no fucking oppression at all going on in the first place!! And 3) that everything she thinks is attractive on a man like having the ability to build something or doing hard Labor for his family willfully has the exact equivalent in the feminin realm. WE find it attractive when women are nurturing and trying to serve us as well. That's not patriarchy. That's not oppression. That's being a team and a family that loves so much that it wants to serve and provide.
Nobody hates women more than feminists
Right not all women are self assured and out spoken. Ready to fight any battle. Some of them are just like the original Wendy
what's funny is that feminists think this is what lifts women up, makes them strong, when actually they're still just gloryfying men, because they're basically saying that a woman can't be strong and inspiring unless she becomes a man, or acts like the man, or has the same physical capabilities as a man. In the end you're still just making men out to be the better gender and it's honestly so fucking funny
Wendy blames her brothers for the mirror she broke.
No accountability... How very modern of her.
💀 seriously
I hated that part of the movie so much, I could feel the pain as a younger sibling
If it was the original Wendy she would take the blame for them even if it's not her fault 😢
That would've been a great, if she later admits her faults, like admiting she was at fault for the death of Peter pan.
Definite 2023 woman as accountability is a foreign concept.
Actually the lost boys being all boys does matter because lore wise only boys were able to be “lost” because girls had more common sense and were smarter.
This is why Wendy was so important, she represented maturity and a feminine loving perspective that the boys never had.
And these were messages that Walt Disney, a man, wanted to get across. The bright side of growing up and embracing manhood, the importance of a motherly figure and woman's touch, appreciation for well-meaning albeit humanly imperfect fatherly discipline, and love for the family and home. Walt knew better how to highlight values of femininity without shaming masculinity. If anything, his version embodied empathy, understanding and union between both.
I was looking for someone familiar with the original story lol, Disney has really sunk low over the years
Their Wendy is self-centered. They also contradict themselves:
"You're not all boys." "So?" "I guess it doesn't matter."
"This magic belongs to no boy."
But you said it doesn't matter...
Only doesn’t matter if it means boys are specials, girls can be anything they want
The original Wendy was a girl boss. She created so much peace and love without raising a fist, a sword, or her voice. Want a hard job? Be patient and loving to a pack of wild children
You just evaporated their entire arguement.
Too bad leftists see "girl boss" as something sterile, like leading a Fortune 500 company while sleeping around.
I read hard job as hand job… I was like uhhhh, I don’t get the punchline
Excellent analysis and astute commentary 👍
@@tigerprincess11 😂😂😂😂
wendy was supposed to be a feminine girl and that’s what made her such an incredible character, it is so sad to see that today girls need to act like boys to be deemed as good characters
And yet, the same mindset abhors, “male toxicity” if a boy acts like a boy.
Because men are better at being women 🤡🤡
The 2003 live-action Peter Pan by Universal actually made Wendy more of a tomboy than other versions but she still had her essential feminine qualities and was a nice person. Shame the 2023 Disney live-action trainwreck made their Wendy a toxic person, no matter how "girlboss" she is.
@@marcohidalgo1101 I don't remember her being more of a tomboy in that movie
Girl bossing & soy boying telltale signs it's 2023.
This magic belongs to no boys...That's transphobic Wendy, she's a transphobe.
They changed Wendy from being a literal mother figure as she is supposed to be, and as is the WHOLE POINT of the story! They fail because they made Wendy INTO Peter Pan.
Peter Pan is the spirit of childhood freedom and adventure, the boy who never grows up, constantly being pursued by Captain Hook, the spirit of bitter adulthood, cruel responsibility, and the _Fear of Death_ *tick tick tick* awareness of one's mortality! Wendy is the only girl _chosen_ to come to Neverland BECAUSE of her mothering nature, because she knows stories to tell the lost boys, Lost Boys who desperately want a mother, and learns that she wants that life of her OWN not just playing pretend and that growing up and having the authentic experience of adulthood *_IS WORTH IT._*
But instead this Wendy has to validate her insistence that the right path for her is to spend her days going on adventures, only to write about them and making no deeper connections as she is _happy_ to die completely alone. (projecting much, writers?) *JUST LIKE PETER PAN.* An admirable yet tragic figure as he can NEVER grow up and will NEVER understand to enjoy the real world on deeper levels like Wendy does, and like the FORMER Lost Boys do at the end, as they get a happy ending by finding their purpose and growing up to LIVE.
When you're a child, you want to be Peter Pan.
When you're growing up, you know you can't.
When you're an _adult, you _*_know you shouldn't be._*
_"To die would be an awfully big adventure."_ -Peter Pan
*_"To LIVE would be an awfully big adventure."_* -J.M. Barrie (as The Narrator at the end of the Play.)
Haha my husband caught on to that. Normally he just gives me crap for bringing up the points in these comments but even her was like “so her whole life growing up is to die alone?” Also, why not make the fairy a different character instead of tinker bell who, btw, was much stronger than this version.
Adding that if they wanted a well written girlboss in Peter Pan they could've just make a Peter and Jane. Because I loooooooved Jane who was more of a tomboy, mature girl. I'm just so Nostalgic over the old Disney Movies. I can't find good ones anymore... Ones that made me cry my eyes out, since Coco. (Even Encanto was a bit disappointing in a way)
@@iwishiknewsooner5116 Who is/was this Jane?
@@tomsmith6513 Wendy's daughter in Peter Pan 2
I don't think I could ever say it better myself. Absolutely Love this comment ❤️🤩❤️
In the original, Wendy has no issues with Tinker Bell. She even compliments on her beauty and defends her when Peter decides to banish her forever.
Yeah exactly but it's not going well with Tinker bell towards Wendy Lol (*at the end of the animation disney movie, Tinker bell have a character development and try to save Wendy, her brother and the lost boys which is cool)
True but in the book and the original, tinker bell wasn’t fond of wendy cause she’s jealous of her. Its a known fact that tinker bell held feeling for peter pan.
You know the movie is bad, when it went straight to Disney Plus, not movie theaters.
Disney was not confident with this one, but are *highly* confident with The Little Mermaid Remake!🤣
@@liamphibia right I noticed that becuase the little mermaid had lots of views and likes on there but with this one the views were down and they were getting no likes
@@vibesgaming2875 it's also the most disliked video on youtube lol
Lady and the Tramp deserved to be in theaters more than Little Mermaid and that was direct to Disney plus as well
😅😅😅😅
It's ironic. In the original story, Wendy serves as a feminine counterbalance yet still upholds a sort of leadership role. This version basically dismisses any power that femininity holds and claims that girls/women can only be "super" if they behave exactly the way that boys do, rather than embracing their own innate capabilities.
So well said
Turning girls into boys and boys into girls... Isn't that the rainbow agenda?
These liberals are so confused by their own ideologies. So a woman can’t be empowered unless she acts like a traditional male figure, but there’s no gender roles..but if she acts feminine and lady like she’s weak, but there’s no gender roles. But there must be gender roles because they’re acting like stereotypical genders just switched..they’re not acting like animals. But there’s no gender roles. 🤦♀️
THIS
That’s what makes it so critical that the lost boys be in fact all boys. Wendy becomes the only woman in their lives other than the not overly reliable tiger Lilly
My kids were screaming at my sister to turn it off. It was a tortuous perversion of an amazing story. We just now watched 2003’s version and we’re so happy. Every detail was so well thought out. Each character is forever irreplaceable. So much emotion.
The 2003 version is so well done. And the best Peter Pan yet.
I so loved 2003 Peter Pan. Had a major crush on Jeremy LOL
The 2003 Peter Pan was not all dat. Hook was even better and I still have other movies I would rather watch before it.
❤❤ Agreed! The 2003 version is the best live action Peter Pan ever!
I think it's sad that being gentle and loving and kind are now seen as weaknesses. Why can't Wendy retain these qualities and still be depicted as courageous when she needs to be?
It's disgusting that they can't leave the woke agenda out of children's classics. Just let kids be kids. They don't need political pandering.
We now have to put parental block on Disney Channel
leave politics to the politicians
we aren’t politicians, therefore we don’t have to follow politics
The children are the future. We need to control the future.
@@peposo7 I agree
As if "wokeness" is political 🙄
Tinkerbell was a firecracker FULL of personality! She was super jealous and protective of Peter Pan and the Lost Boys. She was full of attitude and sass. Peter Pan was known for his bravery and fearlessness, which beautifully harmonized the dynamic between him and Wendy, who was the "Mother" figure. She was nurturing and caring and brought a sense of comfort and order to the otherwise chaos and immaturity of the boys. Absolutely NOTHING in this version resonates with the original. Another Disney disappointment.
In the original she was jealous of Wendy and wanted to get her killed
Yes 100%
@@skootergirl22 Exactly! She literally set up traps and would maniacally lay and wait to watch Wendy get taken out and would throw a tantrum kicking the air when it didn't work or act all innocent and hide if Peter caught her trap for Wendy and stopped it... I can understand if Disney wanted to make Tink a little less murderous for this version lol, but to completely take away her personality is ridiculous! No excuse for that. Jealousy, sass, and attitude are all normal emotions and characteristics in people and by showing that gives the character depth and dimension. Having a character with no range of emotion is boring and unrelateable for the audience.
Yes Tinkerbell in this version has ZERO in relation to the OG Tinkerbell... But you are forgetting a very crucial point: This Tinkerberl.... IS BLACK !
And according to Disney, that should be more then enough to be better then the og.
@@josejuanandrade4439 no but that’s why. She’s black and they didn’t want to portray a black woman as hot headed since it’s a stereotype
In this version, Wendy DEFINITELY turned into a "I'm not like other girls" girl 💀
She hit the nail right on the head! My husband and I were so disappointed. But not surprised. Even my 13 year old girl could see through the bullsh!t. She even got inspired to write her own "alternate scenes" where she took some of the most disappointing parts and rewrote them to be more dynamic and be more in line with the original. 😂
Even kid's can sense no creativity and flat characters 🤣
@@starlovelndh seriously! 🤣
Maybe this 13 year old should make a video about it so we can find out why she was disappointed.
Did she know you didn't like the movie? Did you tell her beforehand, or was it a "let's wait and see what she thinks?"
@@starlovelndh Methinks it's an upside down world where the adults are dumb and the kids are the smart ones. There's even TV shows entitled "Are you smarter than a 6th grader" . . . something like that.
@@tomsmith6513 my guy, kids can have their own opinions. It's a poor written movie, ANYONE can see that. Not just adults.
The fact that this show can get a 65% on Rotten Tomatoes just PROVES the "critics" are in the pocket of Disney.
They rate any boring pc movie highly. Luckily RT has audience rating
@@humantacos9800 yeah. It's not in the pocket of Disney, it's more that Disney and the Critics are in the pocket of the SJWs.
It's not unique to movies; most critics of anything are shills. That was the whole point of Gamergate years ago.
no in the pocket of woke agenda
Paid shills
If I remember correctly, Lost Boys and Peter was immature and just doing whatever they want. Wendy was the voice of reason and trying to get the boys break away from those habits. Tinker Bell don't like strangers due to always wanting to be capture for her magic. Wendy eventually becomes homesick and Peter didn't want her to leave and become a Lost Boys and never get old or have worries. Wendy wanted to have a family and grow old with them which is why she left. That was the driving point of Wendy character. This is what made Wendy special to the plot and what she got the Lost Boys to understand that being young and playing forever isn't a fulfilling life.
Exactly. I haven't seen the original movie for awhile (I'm in my forties), but I remember Wendy as a reasonable, mature, MOTHERING type of character.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The importance of mothers was a driving theme of the story, so of course, if they removed that theme to make it a "girl boss" movie that denigrates motherhood, it loses the plot.
@@sarahbrown2789 the whole Peter Pan story was about to explore and show the difference between immaturity (childhood) and maturity (adulthood) and to help us understand why we can't stay children forever.
were*** immature, not was.
I love rotten tomatoes scores. Terrible movies get good scores, but the audience score is always more accurate. You can buy a score but you can't buy an audience
I am a black 18-year-old girl and I’m so mad what they did. There’s nothing wrong with having a diverse cast what they could’ve done was of course keep the lost boys or boys but then just have boys of different ethnicities and races Keith Peter Pan how he did in the original, and as much as I love your history, she is such a beautiful, talented actress. It’s sad that they did her so dirty in this movie.. especially keeping her dull, and just turning her into a another silly agenda to push through her, like the whole, hearing my voice thing. It was so corny the whole time I was bored I had to skip throughout the whole movie. I also think there’s nothing wrong about trying to fix their mistakes with the Native Americans but tiger lilies. Character was completely useless in this movie. She was just there standing giving expiration quotes There’s nothing wrong with her being saved and they completely missed an opportunity of showing the tribe. When do you herself she was just mad the whole time. They pretty much ruined every character.
That’s crazy because a big character trait of Wendy is that she is motherly. To her brothers and to the lost boys and it makes them want to go home
Bingo
She’s motherly, sure. But she was scared of growing up and becoming a mother herself. It’s not until she made the journey that she realized that it was something for her to look forward to instead of being scared of.
@@powerofk And all off those things are still true in this new movie.
Yep
@@kevinferrin5695 😊❤ JESUS LOVES YOU AND YOUR FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE PSALM 139:14 PLEASE REPENT AND BELIEVE ❤
It's good to know that being misgendered "doesn't really matter" anymore. About time!
The irony! 🤣
only if your male...who want to be a male
@@DarkRaikon A lot of women, apparently.
@@DarkRaikonAre you male? Do you think there's only male-2-female transition too? You sound quite woke...
You are either a man or a woman since birth. God designed you that way there is no such thing as being “misgendered.” Duh 🙄
In the original book, Tinker Bell drunk the poison intended for Peter Pan saving his life & saved Tink by believing in her & asked the readers to join in. In the 1953 animated film, Tink pushed a bomb in a present box. That was her redemption ark. Wendy was a damsel in distress & a charismatic mother-figure & Tiger Lily didn't have much of a role at all & both of them were not tomboys. Not to mention the book had dark elements like Peter being sociopathic.
😂😂😂 they don't want to mention that part
One of the biggest takes also is that there’s a reason why it was lost boys. As in Victorian times boys would tend to end up not picked in orphanages, or would have to work in factories or mines more often than orphaned girls. I think “Hook” did a way better job of depicting the lost boys.
I really loved that Wendy was a girl who lived happily in her femininity and nurturing nature originally. I was the opposite as a young girl, but even though I related more to Peter, seeing Wendy made me more comfortable in my girlhood and nurturing nature. It’s so important to see those qualities as a young girl. It also allowed you to see her true strength as a person through her firmness with Peter and her compassion.
They ruined her.
They really did.🤦🏻
they didnt ruin her they fucked her up
PackiePan and Wendeesha.
And Tinkerbelleesha rapping and flying smoking ganja in da crib of aunt jemaima.
And the thing is, yes - There were little girls that acted just like Wendy in this film. But the whole point of choosing Wendy in the story is _because_ she's much more motherly and nurturing than rowdy and adventurous like the little boys. The Wendy in this version wouldn't even have been picked since it bares no purpose, however Wendy in the story was chosen since she had enough patience and comfort she could give to those who never had those given to them. That's the point of her being motherly; it's to be the figure of maturity they never had.
And you didn't have to be a boy or identify as one in order to relate to Peter and Wendy at the same time. That's what good character development looks like.
This movie had nothing to do with what J.M. Barrie intended with this story. He was a lost boy himself in a way. He despaired at the inevitability of losing your innocence and the magic you see in the world as a child when you grow up. He was very in touch with his inner child. He befriended a woman, a single mother, and often visited her and played in the garden with her children. The story of Peter Pan was a result of these imagined adventures. The characters are gleaned from Sylvia's children, John, Michael and Peter.
Peter is the inner child in Wendy that refuses to grow up and Captain Hook is her father that wants to force her to grow up. That is the essence of their antagonism...there was never supposed to be a story behind it because it is an abstract idea come to life in the forms of Hook and Peter in Wendy's mind. Neverland is the "place" where Wendy keeps her imagination, her "wonder" if you will.
So Neverland is Wendy's sense of childhood wonder. Hook is her father. And Peter is her inner child. Peter was never supposed to be the bad guy nor Hook have a backstory of why he was in Neverland because they were never supposed to be rounded characters as they are simply allegories, symbols, that represented how Wendy felt about the inevitability of her womanhood approaching. Her father being the image of adulthood and a rather dull and depressing one that she eschewed.
So, Wendy was always a strong young woman also at grips with the advent of her womanhood - and at the end she comes to terms and is ready to grow up, yet she seems to not think that relinquishing her sense of wonder in the world is necessary to do that - even in the Disney cartoon, right after she states that she is ready to grow up, she looks up at the ship-shape cloud in the sky, eyes still seeing magic in the world, and she even reels in her parents into it, and for a moment, they too are like children again. Her father, whom she fashioned Captain Hook after, suddenly forgets he is Mr. serious working adult for a moment and gets this glint in his eyes that he lost a long time ago and says "you know I think I've seen that ship before, a long time ago, when I was very young". And for a moment, he remembers his own childhood wonder, the innocent bliss that comes with it and sat there with his wife and daughter to admire the clouds and see shapes in them, as children.
That was what J.M. Barrie wished to express. I mean you're talking about a guy that enjoyed playing with kids as a kid himself. Peter Pan is more a message to adults than to children - about not relinquishing you inner child so completely, like Mr. Darling, who is constantly spazzing about work related issues and social status.
What in the world does Disney thinks its doing by maiming his story to tell one of their own, one that has nothing to do with adults stopping for a moment and remembering how wonderful the world looked when we were children, (or telling children: you're gonna grow up but it doesn't mean you have to let go of your innocence). How sad. Walt Disney too would be rolling in his grave along with J.M Barrie.
EXACTLY, THANK YOU!!!!
Thank you. That was very interesting
I hope you are writer, you know how to draw a person in even with an explanation 🥺
I love watching Return to Neverland with Johnny Depp.
Well said. Now, this obviously isn't to say there isn't an actual fictional story being played out in Peter Pan, but this was the ultimate message. Very well said.
Wendy is canonically a mom by the end of the original book and play. And was always meant to be from the story's beginning. I'd go as far as to say that one theme going on in it is that being a mom is a higher calling than swashbuckling adventures where boys play with swords.
Funny how they can make Tink talk and at the same time give her less character depth than when she didn't
"forced diversity" is the exact phrase I've been waiting for!! Brilliant Amala!
What you're really looking for is forced Propagation and Pandering.
Peter Pan was a play originally and the only physical characteristics given were “a common fairy exquisitely dressed in costume period” the interpretation was to be left up to the director. Hence she is who ever the director s chooses.
The Personal History of David Copperfield. Forced diversity and a brilliant film.
The Green Knight. Forced diversity and magnificent.
I am more confused about the fact that they didnt use this film to introduce or at the very least mention the other fairies from the disney series. They have a literal series tied to this with a whole spectrum of different fairies.
"But it just feels so forced." - I think this is the real problem. It's not your race or sexual identity; it's not a Black Tinkerbell. It's a movie that isn't intended to entertain us, but to lecture and virtue signal to us. I think TV commercials are doing it now, too. Remind me why I should pay to watch?
THIS 👏🏼
@@natalieromanolive I second that motion!
Yes.
.. yep, EVERYTHING we see now has to convey "a message". It's beyond tedious.
✨ Pirate the movies ✨
I rewatched the Matrix trilogy this weekend. Incredibly diverse and incredibly good, because it's not forced. It makes sense.
I adored the original Wendy, she was adventurous and creative, and sure she liked boyish things like sword fights but that didnt take away from her pure and nurturing persona that attracted Peter and the rest of the lost boys to her. The story was about her finding value in who she is, not becoming another (better!) boy. If you want a great Peter Pan movie watch the 2003 version or Finding Neverland which is the story of how it came to be. Thats what the story is meant to be.
What I love about the girlboss trope is that it's done so horribly. They'll try and gaslight you by saying "you just don't like seeing strong women" when in reality, they're just poorly done. I watch anime, there's tons of insanely strong, yet still feminine characters, who are often times stronger than the guys. Disney just writes male characters, takes away their family jewels, then calls them a "strong female lead".
I could be sitting here for an hour just naming all the badass women who have inspired me (a 35yo man) throughout the years across Western media alone and not run out of ideas (I actually started, but after 15 minutes this comment was already getting too bloated and I was nowhere near done). With anime added to the mix it would be closer to three hours.
Modern versions? I feel they just skip the "girl" part of the "girlboss" and call it a day.
You know what? Do it. I'll start with my three: Red Sonja, Ellen Ripley, Princess Leia and a bonus of Sorsha from the original Willow. She wasn't quite a lead but close enough and Badass.
@@rickee2652 You're on! Capt. Janeway, and while none of the rest are leads, they're all _very_ strong characters: Valeria from Conan the Barbarian, Capt. Amelia in Treasure Planet, Violet Beaudelaire in Lemony Snicketts
Katara from Avatar the last airbender was also a strong female character done right. She's motherly, kind, sympathetic, has fears and weaknesses, and she doesn't need to bully men all the time just to prove how strong she is
@@Mordring I'm a fan of old movies, so my favorite is Maid Marian from The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938). Marian wasn't a sword-slinger or archer in that one, but she had strong Christian principles, and the almighty spine to back them up. She became a spy in John's household, and even planned and arranged Robin's rescue from execution. And when she was finally caught and brought before a tribunal, she demanded her rights under law.
But not for one damn second did she stop being a lady, nor was she implied to be weak just because she didn't brawl with the boys.
Olivia de Havilland, the actress, was a very strong woman in her own right, and every inch a feminine lady.
The scripts are not only bad. They're so bad that they break the ultimate rule of writing by telling and not showing. Plugging in lines like "I thought you were boys. I guess it doesn't matter." Is a line that not only doesn't matter to the plot, they're going out of their way to tell you what their agenda is.
They make it so obvious
That and it doesn’t even fit with the plot lol
Also the director defending that he put Girls in the lost boy saying: "it's a movie made for everyone. If you want there's still the other movies. This movie is to introduce the New generation to the story". Its like he's saying that there is an agenda and he doesnt care about the lore of the story. Simply he wanted to put girls there for the sake of inclusion.
They put those lines in thinking that the audience will go "oh, I never thought of it that way." and change their whole perspective lol
I don’t get it, because there’s literally already girl characters? Why can’t the lost boys just be boys? It certainly never bothered me as a child. I wanted to be Tinker Bell or a mermaid lol
They took out all the heart and soul with no cleaver writing
Wendy meeting the lost boys not only showed her how to have patience and understanding for the kids she one day wanted in a family of her own. But she was able to confirm she didn't want to conform to Peters ideals of being a child forever. The lost boys also learned so much from Wendy. They also realized what they lost by leaving their mothers/ parents before they were mature enough to truly be on their own.
This modern Wendy might have saved the boys for a minute in a stupid sword fight
But 1953 wendy gave the boys skills to save & think for themselves with her wit for a lifetime.
the fact that wendy was such a mother figure in the first movie and now in this new one she doesn’t even want to be a mother
She's middle school age. It's okay that she's not ready to be a mother in middle school.
One of the worst things about these “remakes” is that they all try to justify the villains’ behavior because they had a hard life. While the truth is some people are bad just to be bad
True. So many murderers said they kill because they can. Yet disney pushes that we we should give sociopaths and narcissists 50 chances to prove that deep, deep, deep down they really have a heart of gold. No, hell, no. So done with their lies and manipulation
Yep. And they like it.
Even worse: One key difference between villains and heroes always was that bad things happened to heroes and they decided that they don't want anyone else to go through this while villains wanted everyone else to feel as miserable as them.
But now we should feel bad for villains because they were sad ones and they tell us that the villains have a right to be jerks? And heroes are just some privileged lucky bastards, that just haven't had it bad enough yet?
its their politics - they make excuses for criminals in real life.. which is why they vote for DAs who wont prosecute criminals and let thugs and thieves go free. the writers for disney insert their own domestic politics into everything now.
@@zarrahprodan2180 They justify the wrong villains for this, that's the problem.
When I was a tween, I used to hate that Wendy didn’t want to stay in Neverland with Peter. But as I got older, I realized that at least in the 2001 remake, that growing up and letting go of love that isn’t right for you was important- and I’m glad to see that Wendy made wonderful realizations at that age.
this is great because your experience embodied the theme of the movie-- growing up.
God, Peter pan is prob on skidrow shooting neverland in his veins
What's funny is when I was a little kid I always got mad that Peter didn't go with Wendy. And then when they came out with Hook I was really upset because it was very clear he was still in love with Wendy and he married her granddaughter. That made me a bit queasy.
Thanks for watching this.
The majority of children sat in front of this film, aged 5 to 11 years old, will enjoy it. Children do not care about race. Only weirdo adults. Stay away from kids, dirty old men. Furthermore, J.M Barrie was a nonce. Who cares about his characters.
Another thing I notice in these new renditions is the blurring of the line between good and evil; while in these tales the good and evil in characters is more black and white than in real life individuals, they are effectively representative of the objective good and evil that DOES exist in real life. These movies used to teach us why good is better than evil and now they have been twisted to make children ignorant to the discerning of these two things.
Ya bringing in hooks story here makes no sense it would be if you make the original darker version where he kills the lost boys for growing up
I highly recommend 2003 Peter Pan for everyone who felt like this movie was such a massive hit and miss. It has every ounce of vibrancy, magic, Victorian accuracy, and love put into it that this version is lacking.
I saw the 2003 version in theaters. I was 10 at the time and I remember me and my parents being in awe of the film. I loved the whimsy and magic.
I watched the cartoon and the Robin Williams films when I was a child, and I enjoyed them. In the last month I read, one chapter a night for some days, the original novel to my son. It was a whole lot darker than I anticipated. Wendy being a mother was basically the most important aspect of the story. The boys wanted a mother, Peter wanted a mother, the pirates even offered to not kill Wendy if she would agree to be their mother! Theoretical adult male pirates were still clearly boys at heart. Wendy after returning home went for a short period each year, if Peter remembered, to do spring cleaning for him and as she got older her daughter and then her daughter's daughter did the same for Peter. The idea of what Disney turned that story into... my husband called it stupid, I said it was far, far too awful to be summarized by just calling it stupid. Normally I just ignore Disney, but having the original so fresh in my mind, its genuinely way worse than stupid. They actively take material and try to use it to demonize the source material. They can't just dislike the past, they try to use that history to actively attack what it was.
Edit: Additionally, Wendy brings the lost boys back home and her parents adopt them all so they can grow into adulthood. Except for Peter, because he refuses to grow up. Its... taking away the idea that she'd want to be a mother... feminism really, really hates femininity.
Yes. Feminism destroys femininity
What a great new slogan and so true "Feminism hates Femininity" great statement.
They just hate everything. Anyone who genuinely enjoys life makes them angry
Well said💯💯👏👏
I so agree that the ‘Hook’ film featuring Robin William is way better. A thousand times better than the corny remake.
Its funny too, cause Wendy is the definition of a strong female character. She, in the original story, is older and wiser (still a teenager but ya) then the little boys (all male) and has to teach them (a girl knowing more then boys, gotta set them straight). All the BOYS realize the GIRL is right and learn to grow up.
I have 0 idea why they had to change things, when it already suits the narrative they wanted. On top of that, nearly everyone already liked it, so.. NO CONTROVERSY!
Right?! This version actually sounds MUCH less feminist than the others!
So sick of wokeness watering down these characters while calling them “strong.” The lack of complexity in female characters lately feels pretty demeaning to me as a woman. I am more than just “strong.” Not to mention, my strengths are unique to me as a woman- I do not need to be strong in a masculine way to be formidable.
The problem is Wendy being a traditional motherly figure couldn't be the reason the boys grow up..that reinforces the value of motherhood and femininity which the left despises.
It doesn't fit the narrative when it comes to Wendy. They don't want little girls growing up thinking that being a mother or wife is a good trait.
Jane became a member of the group and she was a lot rougher on the edges. The only Pan films I like are the new animated ones which I had on video tapes as a child, the 2003 film and Hook. The rest have been made for little children. Mary Poppins Returns was also a bit bland instead of doing something good like expanding on Mary Poppins, who can go into magical paintings, different worlds and such. She is anything but bland.
Actually, OG Peter Pan was low-key racist to the Natives (what makes the red man red?) I didn't catch it as a child, but as an adult I recognized the problem. Not that you needed it for the story to hold together. But then when you remove that part, you get slammed for removing non-white characters from the story.
When I heard Disney was gonna make a live action remake of Peter Pan I was actually excited because I have always loved the 1953 Peter Pan. I thought they were gonna make it similar to the 1953 version but not the same. I watched this movie and I swear I felt like crying.
There has been a fan theory for years that pan is the bad guy. Pan kidnaps boys and when they eventually want to grow up he kills them or they turn pirate. This would put hook as the good guy and originally a lost boy. It seems disney has taken a fan theory and softened it a bit for this movie
There's nothing wrong with women being kind, soft spoken and motherly. Wendy is strong in her own way, which is that she's kind and loving to her brothers and the Lost Boys no matter how rowdy they are. I loved how she never yells or loses her temper (except for that mermaid scene, but to be fair they were literally trying to drown her) but still stands her ground when the boys don't listen. She also doesn't retaliate against Tinkerbell's insults, and rather still treats the fairy with kindness, which I think is a good example for girls. I don't understand how that isn't considered strong anymore.
And she stood up for her female rights during the Indian camp scene. Now that scene was problematic and I get why they took that stuff out, but clearly she wasn't just a doormat.
@NewWorldOrder2030 Yup. This is not a movie, this is pröpägändä disguised as a movie.
@@mallorycarpinski1160I am a Native American descendent and have always loved the scene. It took a playful spin on how Indians do some strange things like smoking giant tubes etc. I always laughed, I never thought it was racist, hateful, or unjust.
Because strong female characters aren't kind, they only exist to punch boys for being too weak.
@@Creekersqueaker People who say it's "problematic" don't really understand the film. EVERY character in Neverland is represented from the perspective of children's fantasies and child's play. Pirates are real, but the Neverland pirates are not like real pirates. The same is true for the Indians. They literally play hunting games with the Lost Boys where they let each other go. The Indians are depicted how a child (British children who have never met real Native Americans) would depict them in their play. People separate the Indians from the pirates, mermaids,and fairies when they shouldn't. Neverland is NOT our world for a reason. Making the Indians historically accurate is antithetical to what Neverland is. They NEED to be simple caricatures like everything else. That's Neverland.
I pointed out a while ago that having other girls in never land defeats the big point to the story. And it underminds te role that wendy played.
A boy who doesnt want to grow up so he runs away to a magical land with a fairy, where he doesnt have to.
He gets lonely and doesnt know why so he thinks to himself ill get friends, so he gets the lost boys, all was good and all was well, nothing ever changed. They played, and lived forever, up untill wendy showed up, and she reminded them of that one thing that they all missed when they are playing house. Wendy was the mom, they realized they all missed their moms. Wendy reminded them of that by telling them stories. When wendy left, the lost boys didnt want to stay anymore. Leaving peter and tink alone in neverland to live forever.
Under and behind the fantastical story that is peter pan, its just a story about the importance of parents, growing up and acceptance. Some can do it, and some cannot. Some can do it, and still they choose and will not. While some just cant, and yet still they try.
edit: this was just my way of looking at the story. Its always been my favorite story, i was pter pan every year for holloween up untill i was like 11 and the it was a ninja. Needless to say, alas, i am not a big fan of these changes they have made.
edit: not to mention it was wendy that inspired peter to finaly face hook instead of running from him. He and the lost boys even said that hook had previously put other lost boys that got capture to the gallows. Indicating or at least implying that peter couldnt or wouldnt save them. But for wendy that changed.
And same goes for the indian's, they were at war with them untill wendy showed up, she helped make peace.
The fact that she was a girl and one of the only girls aside from the girls OF never land, via indians, which are debating if they are even real, is a huge fact that fed the whole arc of the story.
I've always read the story similar. It's sort of like a commentary on how men need women to set expectations and inspire them to greater things.
Edited to add: it's also seems to be about how men are more than boys and women are more than girls. Wendy had qualities about her that made her more than a child. That's what true maturity and taking on the mantle of civilization strives to achieve.
@@lydiakotter6990 Exactly!
Now I want to read the original book. Not going to waste my time watching this poor simulacrum.
I for one, love your perception
Yes!! This is like one of my favorite movie versions. It was SO well done; "Peter Pan" 2003. I feel like it embodies all of what you said. It's a sweet, endearing, and a bit cheesy, adaptation of the story.
The 2003 live action movie was the most faithful to the spirit of the source material, the most visually gorgeous, and very well acted. Particularly by Jason Isaacs, who was the definitive Captain Hook. It's sad that this movie, due to poor marketing, was a box-office failure.
The 2003 version is definitely one of the best Peter Pan movies. It’s almost just like the 1953 one too although made by different companies
Absolutely. If only - and that is what irks me about this film - the boy who played Peter did actually speak with an English accent, which he didn't. I've seen this film several times and it annoys me every time! Also Wendy was very well cast and the music was great. The 6.8 rating on IMDB is well deserved.
Yours is a brilliant analysis. Thank you.
The downfall of Disney is both fascinating and really sad.
They had to take it down. Just like they have to take everything down. Disney has too much influence on the culture and on the shaping of children's mindsets. It is now like the proverbial poison apple.
Not really it was to be expected they have been woke before woke was actually a thing
The newest Thor AND the newest Guardians movie was a bout kids in cages😢😢😢😢
You are the downfall, not disney.
@@joshuataylor3550, you are one of the lambs who will be slaughtered in the War and no matter what you will do you will lose.
No one is on your side because your side is madness and it is massacring your mind to know it...
Deep down yourself, look inside your Evil Darkness: Ask The Gods.
They made Peter and Wendy the biggest a**holes in their own story. BRAVO, Disney!
As bizarre as it sounds, the original cartoon pays homage to pedophilia of young boys as animators sneaked or slipped in a coded symbolism for it in the animated version. I don't want to spend money to look to see if they included it in this new version. Knowledge of the elite's hidden-in-plain-sight secret symbolism for male pedophilia is a triangle within a triangle while that for underage girls is a heart within a heart. For most people attracted to the story of Peter Pan it is the whimsical and fun, being able to fly and visit adventurous lands that appeals to them but the core hidden concepts in the story are more suited for NAMBLA or the likes. For instance captain hook was a lost boy but now is old and getting older with time/tic tok the alligator always waiting to consume him. And just the concept of lost young boys on an island bring to mind Epstein island, for instance.
Totally agree. Appreciate your review.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that for us. Bless you
It's amazing how these lunatics love the term "Girl Boss" but when you have real girl boss like Riley Gaines, they hate with conviction.
It just doesn't make any sense does it? Men can be women but women can't be women unless they act like men?! Yet a strong, independent woman is ridiculed & harassed for sticking up for herself. It makes my head spin.
Trans Boss. 😂
Ripley!
Gina Carano, too.
What gets me is when grown women in their 30s and 40s claim to be a "girl boss." At that age you are a WOMAN. A woman boss, not a "girl."
Thank you Amala for your sacrifice of watching this train wreck on behalf of all of us! Disney has been trash for a long time. Disney shareholders are the biggest victims.
Disney's a stock now that you probably have to hold for 20 years now 🤣. It'll probably take them that long to finally wake up.
Much as I hate shareholders
I feel sorry for them losing Millions of Dollars
Amala, thank you for suffering through this piece of nonsense! I would say something else this movie is, but it is not proper on the web. But it is so sad to see such a classic story/ movie ruined by the woke agenda.
iT'S $25K for their timeshare.
The shareholders are probably the ones demanding the wokeness
Peter Pan is a pretty chaotic character. In the books he’s abusive to the lost boys and is even insinuating that he steals some boys away from their families. He’s supposed to be wild and immature and in need of a mother. There are so many great studies on this book and it’s one of my favorites of all time. This movie did what it wanted to do and that’s fine. There are so many different adaptations of peters story. The movie wasn’t great but it’s also not the first to change the main story.
Captain Hook was only the villain because he was an adult. Adults are the 'enemy' in Neverland because they represent oppression, control, and above all, loss of innocence. And growing up, which Peter VEHEMENTLY swears never to do.
But he does return the lost boys to their families at the end when they want to go home. He won't force others to remain young forever.
In the original, it was the same voice who did Captain Hook as well as Wendy’s father’s voice. It was kind of a wink and nod that in her fantasy the bad guy was her father 🧐😂
It was actually a representation of her fear of ‘growing up.’ Her father wanted her to grow up, and Captain Hook represented growing up, that’s why she feared him. And that’s why they always had him played by the same guy as the dad.
That was a carryover from most of the early stage play adaptations, which also used the same actor in different costumes.
The 2003 Petter Pan did that most perfectly!!! Also so sad to see a wonderful piece of storytelling being erased now.
Didn't he get drafted into ww1?
@@Osprey850 Still really good from a storytelling perspective
Wendy went from a motherly figure to a nihilistic loner. Dy¡ng alone, not even with a cat, or a lesbian lover.
Nothing.... Alone.
That's terrifying.
Edit: I'm talking about Wendy, not about you. Yes, you that want everybody to know that "i'm different" 🙄🙄
Yep, feminism always highlights how "slay" and "pleasurable" your life can be, but you'll be perpetually depressed and coping, and trying to pretend you're not
Old.
Alone.
Done for.
Dogs are better than humans and can’t change my mind. Also when you have good friends, a lot of dogs and a really good family as well as a good job. You don’t need a significant other
@@honeybee-xp2so congratulations for coming to this earth just to be the genetic end of the genealogy of all your ancestors.
That's terrifying *and tacky:* nihilism is soooo 1999 and these people think it's cool...
You are quite brilliant at what you do. Well done.
Bravo! Very well presented and said. Thank you!
I love that they got rid of Wendy's gentle, nurturing personality that taught the lost boys about how important and natural it was to grow up. Which led the change in them. I adore how they got rid of the fact that the reason there were no girls who were lost was because girls were too smart to get lost. I love that they made everyone much less likable versions of themselves, even when they try to make Hook a more tragic character, all they manage to do is destroy Peter's character without improving
Hook at all.
Why does Disney think "modern audiences" want terribly written stories with forced diversity and bad messages that don't really stand the test of time like the original ones did?
I’m sorry, but nothing in this movie was inspired. I was bored throughout the entire thing. Law's performance was great, but it's not enough to save this movie. Tinkerbell had no real personality-even Peter apparently can't understand her anymore despite them having been friends for many, many years. Wendy, of course, can take on full grown men in actual sword fights because she pretend dueled with her little brothers with wooden swords. Tiger Lily insists on speaking her native language, even to people who don't understand it-when she knows English and knows that they can't speak her language.
This movie is very bland. Neverland is missing pretty much all of its charm, and there's very little color in this movie. Also, I wasn't convinced Tinkerbell actually cared about anything happening, even in scenes where it's assumed she'd be upset. They made Peter much less charming, not only due to the acting, but just the actions and dialogue given to the character. Wendy had no real reason to slap him like that, but it's framed like she's in the right because, I don't know, go, girlboss Wendy, with her happy thoughts of growing old and dying alone.
Great breakdown
I love how this comment just sent me into an emotional spiral of nostalgia.
"Oh no; girls, you know, are much too clever to fall out of their prams" Well, good thing those are girlboss and dumb as bricks, I guess?
People assumed Princess Peach in the Mario Movie would be a "girlboss" but it turns out that wasn't entirely the case. They just based her off the cartoons and comics. What they did with Wendy is just alarming.
They were definitely going for that with Peach.
@@Crackpot_Astronaut Yeah but everything she did, she already did in the games. The only problem with her is that they portrayed her as sassy and a catty when that's more akin to Princess Daisy.
Yeah Peach was definitely a girlboss even though she still needed Mario
Peachy is the more feminine one. Daisy is more of the girlboss
@@jourdonpatron212Daisy is only portrayed like that in sports spinoffs Peach acts like that in a bunch of the RPGs as well
Lady, I watched your channel now for the first time and you earned my subscription! Thank God there are still decent people in this world. I liked the review of this movie very much :)
Thanks for taking one for the team.
Thank you for your sacrifice. Truly. All Disney movies get an automatic "no" for me unless there's sufficient proof that it isn't woke. Haven't seen any lately...
Strange World has gay characters but not woke. It was pretty good.
Disney has a lot of skeletons in their vault like all companies that started in the 30s
Just for fun, I re-watched the original Peter Pan last week.
If you just stand back and look at it, it's really the story of Wendy. It begins with her and ends with her. The whole tale is very much seen through her eyes.
Well no its the story about the need to grow up and leave childish desires behind which wendy is there to point out to peter and the lost boys
End of day it's all normal woman have to grow up faster. Men catch up in own ways. Peter pan prob would change after his first j9b at 18 and hormones
I never even seen the animation...i guess i ought to haha
Yeah wendy is main.
@@sadhu7191wtf are you talking about😂😂😂 homie just talking to themselves
Wonderful review Amala!
Appreciate her taking one for the team.
😩😩😩😩😩😩 this was a story about boyhood. Growing up (or rejecting the obligation to grow up) as a boy/man. It's about being a lost boy, not seeing the way to adulthood clearly and instead finding your leader in a Figure who completely shed his responsibility of becoming an adult and does whatever he wants to. It's having so little to do with women/girls (because you are too childish and undesirable to them) that you don't even really know what a girl is. It's a Story of a "i want to do everything i want to do with my imaginary Fairy-girlfriend"-boy coming in contact with a normal earthly real girl, who does ultimately NOT want to be a part of this lets just do what ever we want world. Who ultimately understands her earthly life and the real adult like pathway through it. It shows the tragedy of a man who refuses to grow up while not denying but showing the benefits of this being a child for ever, but the biggest flaw of this pathway: That it's not real.
BUT HEY F*** this story about boyhood. It's girlboss time yet again, slap the sh*t out of that peter f**boy Cause overpowered fierce bossbabe in training is here!
Couldn't have said it better myself. This is spot on!
Excellent analysis. 👏👏👏
They've destroyed this story.
Well said man😊
Never watched Peter Pan before but that sounds like a dope wtory
Wendy able to defeat grown man with sword fight is ridiculous. Especially, when her only experience with sword fight was when she played with her brothers. I guess Grown Man = Boy. Plus, its kinda funny her "Happy Memories" is her being alone till she old. Maybe, Disney want to tell girls, "Being Independence is being alone. Being Alone = Happy"
Girl being able to defeat grown man is more ridiculous than boys flying, miniature fairies and humans never getting old?
Neverland is ruled by imagination, faith, self-confidence and all that crap. In this story, anyone could defeat anyone if they just believed in themselves enough
Wow u really made an amazing point with how Wendy was already there to guide them and she was looked up to like a mother. It never put girls in a bad light.
This is the fifth review that I've seen on this movie and you pretty much touched on the same issues the last four reviews did.
One of Wendy's main characteristic and the reason Peter took her in is because of her motherly traits.
What they did with Wendy was severely disappointing. My younger sister (who forced me to watch the movie cause she was curious), and I both agreed that Wendy's mother was more "Wendy" than Wendy was.
If I ever wrote a fairytale (or a novel, comic, anything) and someone decided to trash it this way has been I would be so angry or turning over in my grave!! So disgusted with the lack of creativity of any of the present generations!!!
Excellent work here My Lady
The casual violence of girls hitting boys demonstrates exactly how the writers/directors/producers/Disney feel about boys as a whole.
Disney has jumped the shark and into the waiting arms of violent sexism. Way to go you putzes!
Girls can hit boys but boys can't hit girls
At least in this case, the main character wasn't hit in the privates. That's usually what happens.
@@markfountain5728 That's because Peter doesn't have any, not in this movie.
the writers insert themselves in everything - so ofc they slap small boys to show their strength. Peter in this movie is a short little boy played by wooden actor who can't speak properly.. Wendy towers over him .. this is another She-Hulk production
@@markfountain5728Yeah then everyone laughs at a man in pain
Both of my daughters watched the trailer and refused to even try to watch it. They mentioned the girls in the lost boys and said they hate reboots eventhough they’ve watched every rendition of Peter Pan and love them. This was an innate reaction by them and at first I wasn’t sure why but now thanks to this video I can see why.
Smart kids 👍🏻
Brilliant review.
Hey Amala. Love your show, really appreciate your bravery in sitting through what was obviously another crash and burn masterpiece by Disney. I would love for you to watch next, if you haven’t already. Super Mario Bros. Prepare to have a smile on your face throughout the entire movie.
I remember seeing the trailer and just thinking about how GRAY it is. It seems like they just took the saturation to the lowest level on the scale as an effort to make it modern or adultish or something. One of the biggest things that is lacking in modern entertainment is MAGIC. The story of Peter Pan is magical and colorful! The best example of an adaption/sequel being done well is Robin Williams’ Hook. That movie was MAGICAL. The sets were incredible, the effects were slightly dated but exciting, and the whole movie made you want to jump into the story with the characters! Peter Pan and Wendy looks so drab and depressing, no adult would want to watch it, let alone a kid.
You mean gay?
all the other peter pan movies (including the animated classic) had vibrant colour/atmosphere but based on the few clips i seen, it look so bland..... was not NEVERLAND the land of magical where boys does not want to leave or age up?? if its so bland...why peter pan bother stay there ??
Looky looky, someone else remembered Hooky... omg... I'd rather my daughter watch Hook 1,000 times instead of this horror fest. They lost the magic and went for radical anti-feminine femme
@@asrafkhalid1231 you get it!!
@@AshaGrenetal exactly. I'm so glad I grew up with movies like that.
In the book it is true that Peter is painted as an antagonistic figure because he’s SO immature that he often neglects the Lost Boys and Tink, leaving them to wonder if he’s died somewhere. He’s completely self absorbed and self aggrandizing, but it plays into the theme of growing up and serves a purpose. Also he did feed Hook’s hand to the tic tok croc in the book and he tells it as a grand exploit. But again, these things tied into a theme in the book. This retelling makes everything meaningless.
Peter Pan represented the worst of being a child. Children can be incredibly heartless and that’s why he was the way he was, because he was a child who never grew up and never wanted to, and that showed the dangers of that desire.
But he wasn’t utterly evil. Why did this movie make it about a battle between male and female? Why did Wendy have to take his powers?
It is incredible how this move's undertones and philosophical message (especially Hook personifying the fear of death in a form of passing time, and the fight with realization of one's mortality). Peter being a warning story of being trapped in a fascination of young adulthood, even with all its blessings is lost as well.
And the most of all, it loses the meaning that Peter and Hook are essentially two opposite sides of man's personality that are in a constant fight with each other, and that one of the very few ways of getting out of both opposites is a form of a self-chosen commitment.
Great video, thanks for telling it like it is.👍
I dont mind the idea of Tiger Lily rescuing people and being kind of cheeky by speaking a language the others won't understand. She always felt like a crafty, talented character to me.
Done correctly, it would fit her character and personality just fine. I'm pretty sure it wasn't done correctly, though.
In the original film, she didnt speak English at all, and only spoke her native tongue; she relied on mannerisms to communicate. I think changing that one particular thing actually destroyed the integrity of her character.
@@AmandaDixsonwait..... I don't think Tiger Lily talked at all other than screaming help when the water level was rising
The majority of children sat in front of this film, aged 5 to 11 years old, will enjoy it. Children do not care about race. Only weirdo adults. Stay away from kids, dirty old men. Furthermore, J.M Barrie was a nonce. Who cares about his characters.
@@TheAmalaEkpunobi The Personal History of David Copperfield. Forced diversity and a brilliant film.
Agreed. As I recall, in the original book the reason she'd been captured by the pirates was because they caught her sneaking alone onto their ship to assassinate Captain Hook. In a tragic twist her characterization was done dirty by Disney long before this monstrosity ever came along.
I love that Wendy's happy thought was pretty much identical to that of a spoiled brat woman in 2023...
Thank you for sparing my sanity. I have become very sure to keep away from newer productions of almost everything, to NOT get nauseated, frustrated , angry and worried beyond belief what all this will end into.
This makes me think of the original story that Peter Pan was based on, where Peter was indeed the villain.
The 2003 Peter Pan movie was extremely well done for those who have not seen it.
I have! I loved it!
The BEST Peter Pan adaptation ever.
2003 version is by far the best live action adaption ever. Surprisingly, before this movie ,; Peter Pan and Wendy, the worst version was that train wreck Pan.
I love that one! Makes me cry sometimes. It’s just so well done and I’ve watched it many times. Had it on DVD.
@@Ilicia_08 ahhh DVD 📀 man those were the days.
The wokest thing since Woke came to Woke Town.
StillAboveGround
...but only until the next movie is released.
@@TheNewsInASL The sequel will be called, "Awesome Wendy and Buffoon Peter Pan".
@@stillaboveground2470 😂😂
@@stillaboveground2470
I'm not even talking about a sequel to this movie. I meant the next movie released by the movie industry as a whole.
Awesome review
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I literally took a good 5 hour break from this movie before finishing it. It really was bad and I rarely say that to featured “bad” films.💁🏾♀️
In the play, which is the original source material for Peter Pan, the part of Hook is always played by the same actor that plays Wendy's father, so it is really a coming of age story for Wendy. He is distant and a stern disciplinarian - common in England in this period, and what is apparent is that Wendy yearns for a world where parental discipline is non-existent - she sees it as an evil and in her imagination only an evil pirate would use such tactics. In the play Wendy becomes a mother to the lost boys and her love and attention transforms them, giving them license to grow up. Girls are "too clever" to fall out of their prams and so, never end up in Neverland.
What's interesting is that while Wendy is a central character of the play, her chief characteristic and strength, that of maternal instinct, holds no value for today's feminists and so we must transfer all of the typically male characteristics to the female lead while neutering the male characters. Although I have no plans to see the movie, or really any of Disney's current fare, I suspect that Wendy's maternal nature is, if not entirely missing, at least downplayed in favor of a modern woman who can "have it all" without the slightest need of a man in her life.
Peter Pan, on the other hand has been castrated. No spirit of adventure, no bravery, only a weak, pre-adolescent without redeeming feature who must be rescued from every perilous situation by the all-wise, all-knowing Wendy. We must make him the anti-hero to put him in his place because from the modern feminist perspective he is all toxic masculinity. Fortunately, if we can just allow a strong woman to take over, all will be well! It is this upending of all of the truthful aspects of the original story that leaves the audience certain that this film is dishonest. Only feminist hacks seem to identify with it and they award it the 15 point Rotten Tomatoes score, while the blind-guides who make up the professional critics gave it a much higher score in line with their liberal/woke sensibilities.
Well said. Well done.👍👍👍
I thought maybe they were twins.
Captain is the lost boy while Wendy's Father didn't get lost.
"Wendy yearns for a world where parental discipline is non-existent - she sees it as an evil and in her imagination only an evil pirate would use such tactics. In the play Wendy becomes a mother to the lost boys and her love and attention transforms them, giving them license to grow up. "
and that is the problem with most of these "updates";
they don"t understand the central ideas behind the stories they massacre.
(Spoiler alert!) My biggest beef with this film was the point at which Peter lost his powers, and suddenly Wendy was wielding them. Peter Pan, in every other iteration of the tale, is the heart of Neverland's magic. It was reaching a point where i was anticipating a sequel to the film, wherein Wendy controlled Neverland.
There was so much wrong with this film, and I'm glad to hear that it's been given such a reasonable audience score on RT.
I haven’t watched it, but Peter losing his powers really makes me upset lmao why can’t they just leave it alone instead of trying to empower wendy
@@nemofish3504 Because in their minds, they firmly believe that the only way to empower women is to destroy men in any way possible.
The audience score is all that matters on RT. I'm glad people ignore the "critics."
Great review, my compliments!
JM Barrie wrote this around 1900. He was an asexual man, who married a woman, but reportedly never bedded her. She left him. And Barrie adored children. He helped raise other people's young boys. Some claim he was a pedophile, bit no one has any evidence. These stories were inspried by some of the boys, and in entertaining young boys, one brings one's own limited experience and beliefs into one's story telling. The 1924 silent film has been found and restored and tells a more accurate story than any of the Disney versions, but it is somewhat...long winded and simple. I prefer the 1953 version. Tinkerbell is depicted fabulously. Regardless, considering that people of any nation tend to write their fictional characters as fellows, in other words - Asian fiction didnt usually feature British or African or Jewish, or Indian heroes, anymore than anglo fiction featured Asian heroes. And since the world of Barrie was pre-internet, not all ethnicites were well known and understood by all people, and therefore various people were not fully historically developed in fiction by authors of children's stories half a world away. Bear in mind: this is a CHILDREN'S STORY about not growing up, and i believe written by a man who, himself may not have wished to be a grown man. British society through out the last century was considered repressive and bland, a joyless duty to one's contry to perform the adulthood chores of job, family, and legacy. Many despaired at this and endeavoured to exist and thrive outside that box. Much fantastic literature is written from the viewpoint of rebellion against conformity and the horrific loss of self. Today's western societies exhibit an exageration of that desire - to the absurd degree of not only not conforming, but of blowing up the very definitions of Normal, Same, Accepted, Role, and Society. Everyone wants to be Other and demands default acceptance by everyone else. I think there is a segment of the entertainment industry that finds a pressure to foster that unhealthy message. I am unsure of it's exact origin and depth, but it seems strongest in the nations with too much free time on their hands, and little respect for order, no acceptance of absolute morals, nor of actual physical limits of existence and identity, nor logic, nor reason. In other words, they are without God. Welcome to Neverland. You dont have to grow up. Next stop...Wonderland.