Brazil’s Lula da Silva, explained

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 24. 10. 2022
  • Lula da Silva wants to be president for a second time. But Brazil has changed.
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    On October 2, 2022, Brazilians voted in the first round of their presidential election. The top two finishers were current president Jair Bolsonaro and former president Luiz InĂĄcio Lula da Silva. Both candidates will face each other in a run-off on October 30. Lula is considered likely to win.
    Lula is arguably Brazil’s most well-known and complex politician. He helped form a powerful political party, had two successful terms in office, and even served jail time over corruption and bribery allegations. After four years of Bolsonaro’s presidency, the core of Lula’s campaign has focused on restoring the Brazil of his own presidency. But a lot has changed in Brazil since his time in office.
    Watch this video for a glance at Lula’s career and to understand why his second time as president would be very different than his first.
    Some sources that were helpful to us in researching this story:
    The Brazilian Report’s election coverage
    brazilian.report/
    Lula and His Politics of Cunning by John French
    uncpress.org/book/97814696557...
    Nurturing Hope, Deepening Democracy, and Combating Inequalities in Brazil: Lula, the Workers' Party, and Dilma Rousseff's 2010 Election as President by John French and Alexandre Fortes
    read.dukeupress.edu/labor/art...
    Lula’s Second Act by Giancarlo Summa
    www.dissentmagazine.org/onlin...
    Can Brazil Turn Back the Clock by Brian Winter
    www.foreignaffairs.com/articl...
    How Bolsonaro Might Win-Even If He Loses by Brian Winter
    www.foreignaffairs.com/brazil...
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  • @Vox
    @Vox  Pƙed rokem +469

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    • @jungleb
      @jungleb Pƙed rokem +28

      no mention of sergio moro?

    • @shway1
      @shway1 Pƙed rokem +1

      you really should have mentioned that the judge in lula's case was corrupt and colluded with the prosecution, and bolsonaro also has issues with corruption

    • @emanoelmso
      @emanoelmso Pƙed rokem +12

      Bolsonaro presidente 22

    • @outof-vd3ym
      @outof-vd3ym Pƙed rokem +2

      Do a video about Bolsonaro’s corruption he robbed billions from Brazil and his money is stashed in Dubai

    • @kenlandon6130
      @kenlandon6130 Pƙed rokem +9

      @@emanoelmso go lula

  • @vinicio3382
    @vinicio3382 Pƙed rokem +3216

    american media always "forgetting" to point out that the judge that emprisioned Lula was later working in bolsonaro's government

    • @ThiagoVksy
      @ThiagoVksy Pƙed rokem +360

      Conveniently forgeting the US government put money on in too

    • @renaldorf
      @renaldorf Pƙed rokem +319

      Yes, the video implies corruption on Lula by showing that he was arrested, but the fact that the process and the trial was staged and prosecution was following the judge's orders, it not mentioned. On top of it, the judge became Justice minister of Bolsonaro's presidency.
      The story of the judge deserves a video on itself.

    • @Vnbrtl
      @Vnbrtl Pƙed rokem +80

      Vox makes videos that are easy to digest by not going really in depth on the subject at hand. Thankfully the Car Wash operation and its aftermath were widely covered at the time by international news, so I’m aware that a few important details were left out (Dilma wasn’t actually implicated in bribes, the Congress applied a chokehold to her government, the party with the highest amount of members involved in the so-called Petrolao was the PP, which was ironically Bolsonaro’s previous party, etc). 9 minutes is not enough to understand the Brazilian saga of 2002-2022, so I didn’t expect a full coverage, but for the uninformed viewer, this could affect its understanding of the whole story, yes.

    • @codezero7981
      @codezero7981 Pƙed rokem

      still doesn't change the fact that Lula is corrupt man

    • @giselefranca3182
      @giselefranca3182 Pƙed rokem

      Worth mentioning that the minister of the Supreme Court who cancelled lula’s long list of crimes was appointed by Lula himself! As for former judge Moro having become a minister of Justice in Bolsonaro’s team is very normal! Poor narrative of losers!

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Pƙed rokem +7457

    Fun fact: The center-right candidate soundly defeated by Lula in the 2006 election is now his running mate in this year's election. The US equivalent would be something like Obama being allowed to run again in 2028 and picking Romney as his VP.

    • @zeitgeistx5239
      @zeitgeistx5239 Pƙed rokem +1

      Except Obama was center right and pro big business. Which was why no one went to prison for the sector wide fraud in the financial crisis and Obama continued Bush era foreign policies like mass surveillance. Obama is the opposite of Lula. Not even remotely close.

    • @sudi_cloud
      @sudi_cloud Pƙed rokem +611

      Which shows how broad Lula's front is. It is necessary, because the country is extremely polarized and, unfortunately, heavily armed by Bolsonaro.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Pƙed rokem +92

      Obama is centre right as it is though?

    • @SpektrikMusic
      @SpektrikMusic Pƙed rokem +355

      ​@@bri1085 US Democratic Party is basically centre right compared to most other countries

    • @pedrosaraiva
      @pedrosaraiva Pƙed rokem +31

      Lula: the left wing enlightened centrist ahah

  • @ingridneves1256
    @ingridneves1256 Pƙed rokem +1015

    It would've been important to mention that Lula was sent to prison while he was attempting to run in the 2018 presidential election.

    • @CaesarLvcivs
      @CaesarLvcivs Pƙed rokem +162

      It does not change the fact that he would've lost. He should still be in jail, BTW.

    • @isaiasaraujo9036
      @isaiasaraujo9036 Pƙed rokem +3

      Lol He was supposed to be in prison, a bandit created the biggest criminal organization Brazil has ever seen, having that bandit as president is a shame!!

    • @vitoriacaroline2354
      @vitoriacaroline2354 Pƙed rokem +179

      @@CaesarLvcivs He wouldn't. He literally won three years after being released. And he would've won then as well, even though "antipetismo" was on its rise. Bolsonaro is the first president, ever since redemocratization, to be unable to re elect himself. It just shows how incompetent he was, though his army is huge and particularly noisy (still couldn't shut up to this day).

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 Pƙed rokem

      @@vitoriacaroline2354 Chora mais, o Lula roubou as eleiçÔes

    • @otaylorgoulart
      @otaylorgoulart Pƙed rokem +20

      Exactly, they should mention Moro in this video

  • @rodolfogart3120
    @rodolfogart3120 Pƙed rokem +211

    To the people that will comment after me, we don't speak Brazilian, we ARE Brazilians and we speak Portuguese.

    • @lebronismygoat
      @lebronismygoat Pƙed rokem +2

      neymar

    • @shi6ri
      @shi6ri Pƙed rokem +6

      fr, what do they think? in their logic, do americans speak american or united states? lol

    • @dopaminedreams1122
      @dopaminedreams1122 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@shi6ri no one’s saying this though, your getting mad over nothing

    • @beinformed3607
      @beinformed3607 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      Yeah. BRAZILIAN Portuguese. So in a way you still speak Brazilian and not the original Portuguese.

    • @Kingkillersstripe632
      @Kingkillersstripe632 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

      Trust me I know that but some people don’t

  • @gabriel82991
    @gabriel82991 Pƙed rokem +3981

    Fun fact: In Portuguese, José is pronounced José, not Hosé

    • @mugitude
      @mugitude Pƙed rokem +256

      oh really? i didnt know josé was pronounced josé

    • @MateusSFigueiredo
      @MateusSFigueiredo Pƙed rokem +637

      It's better to say "José" with the same J as in "job" when referring to Brazilian names

    • @rodrigosantosvaleriano1859
      @rodrigosantosvaleriano1859 Pƙed rokem +21

      @@mugitude lol

    • @rodrigosantosvaleriano1859
      @rodrigosantosvaleriano1859 Pƙed rokem +242

      YES, so annoying when they say it wrong.

    • @davilimalol4612
      @davilimalol4612 Pƙed rokem +67

      English speakers might be able to imitate the sound properly if they spell out "zh". In IPA it's written as /ʒ/ and called a voiced alveolar approximant if I'm remembering correctly.
      (Edit: It's actually called a voiced alveolar fricative)

  • @barrosr2
    @barrosr2 Pƙed rokem +7448

    Good video. However, any explanation of Brazil's politics in the last decade without considering the partial role of Sergio moro - the judge that prosecuted Lula - and his alliance with Bolsonaro is missing a crucial step.

    • @matheus5230
      @matheus5230 Pƙed rokem +1

      This video didn't show enough how insanely corrupt Lula is. It's thanks to him that Bolsonaro has risen

    • @johnsmeith3913
      @johnsmeith3913 Pƙed rokem

      Completely false and proven false by numerous international agencies, Lula is a Chinese sellout who will throw any Brazilian under the boss to enrich himself and Beijing

    • @barrosr2
      @barrosr2 Pƙed rokem +66

      ​@@matheus5230 I can see that that's certainly your opinion. I dissent.

    • @RNCHFND
      @RNCHFND Pƙed rokem +465

      Sim, "detalhe" importantíssimo que faltou e também o golpe contra a Dilma

    • @gtanerd1999
      @gtanerd1999 Pƙed rokem +393

      EXACTLY. This video is GROSSLY misinformed. Should be remade.

  • @latinoamericano45
    @latinoamericano45 Pƙed rokem +109

    Bolsa FamĂ­lia was not a new program. Lula created just the new name. The program was created by the former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and it was called Bolsa Escola.

    • @a-rau-jo9433
      @a-rau-jo9433 Pƙed rokem

      eles tem que falar a verdade

    • @a-rau-jo9433
      @a-rau-jo9433 Pƙed rokem +9

      fazer um vídeo que contem tanta desinformação não é certo

    • @a-rau-jo9433
      @a-rau-jo9433 Pƙed rokem

      além de que Lula é a favor da ditadura e financiou Cuba e Venezuela

    • @DaviCamelier
      @DaviCamelier Pƙed rokem +13

      MAIS OU MENOS. Na verdade Lula uniu 4 dos programas de FHC e deu um nome.

    • @Erickraftt
      @Erickraftt Pƙed rokem

      But the bolsa familia was created in 2003, a year after Lula was elected president

  • @001101011010
    @001101011010 Pƙed rokem +382

    You forgot to mention US’s involvement in Bolsonaro’s election. He had the same campaign manager as Trump. And let’s not forget US’s role in dissolving BRIC, as this coalition was successful and very competitive in the global economy.

  • @DiogoSantos1
    @DiogoSantos1 Pƙed rokem +3577

    there is a mistake in the video. Dilma was never charged for anything related to Lava Jato.

    • @bartomalatesta5652
      @bartomalatesta5652 Pƙed rokem +601

      Exactly, Dilma was never charged with anything regarding corruption. She was removed due to a palamentary coup.

    • @zaloo
      @zaloo Pƙed rokem +1

      yes, Vox seems to imply it Dilma Rouseff "fell" because she was caught in a corruption scandal. wrong.
      Dilma is the most goody two-shoes politician to a fault, one of the reasons she was hated in congress, she wouldn't "play ball".
      she was coup'ed in an Impeachment for manipulating the appearance of the budget, an election-time maneuver use by all recent brazilian presidents before her AND after her.
      the documentary "The Edge of Democracy" by Petra Costa is beautiful and follows this process well.

    • @juanranger4214
      @juanranger4214 Pƙed rokem

      @@bartomalatesta5652 She was removed because in 2014 the people took the streets protesting for her impeachment. It wasn`t a coup because that is what the people protested for. All the government did was give the people what they wanted.

    • @RodolphosTechchannel
      @RodolphosTechchannel Pƙed rokem +105

      @@bartomalatesta5652 chora petista

    • @audiolivrobom
      @audiolivrobom Pƙed rokem

      Indeed, Dilma was impeached because she didn't bend to what we call "centrĂŁo" (or the big centre... a bunch of smaller, very corrupt political parties that sway accordingly with the party in power). Even her vice-president (a participant in the "centrĂŁo" himself) actually had a part in the coup d'etat against her.

  • @NegaRenGenX2gay2lift
    @NegaRenGenX2gay2lift Pƙed rokem +2102

    odd how vox didnt mentioned how lula got out of jail

    • @aug2usto
      @aug2usto Pƙed rokem +1

      No Brasil temos 3 poderes. Um deles o Judiciårio em específico o STF onde é a corte måxima, soltaram ele passando por cima da constituição. Curiosidade: quem em espefico soltou ele foi quem o próprio Lula indicou na época do seu mandato a vaga na cadeira do STF. Estamos começando a passar problemas de censura.

    • @lucashosn9838
      @lucashosn9838 Pƙed rokem +3

      Because the judgment was considered partial even by the UN

    • @alanoliveira4912
      @alanoliveira4912 Pƙed rokem +453

      neither who put him there

    • @shbenbapiro686
      @shbenbapiro686 Pƙed rokem +644

      @@JoaoVictor-ub5cy Interesting how you didn’t mention that the judges during his case was one of Bolsonaro’s allies

    • @96tax
      @96tax Pƙed rokem +109

      even we brazilian are not totally sure about that, everyone that you ask will give you a different explanation or speculation

  • @brrmito7218
    @brrmito7218 Pƙed rokem +446

    I (as brazilian) find it very interesting when I see something like this video in the internet. It's hard to see foreign people talking about your country and its' political debate, yet here I am. Thanks for bringing such an interesting video on the topic and I hope more people watch it and understand a little bit more about foreign countries politics.

    • @jfc22
      @jfc22 Pƙed rokem +22

      Pena que tem uma dĂșzia de falhas de explicação e falta de citação de informaçÔes extremamente relevantes para a compreensĂŁo dessa situação, por exemplo sobre as condenaçÔes de Lula e da maioria de seus chefes de governo e trazendo comentĂĄrios bastante tendenciosos tambĂ©m a respeito de Bolsonaro.

    • @MrPedro13000
      @MrPedro13000 Pƙed rokem +13

      @@jfc22 Perdeu mane

    • @MrPedro13000
      @MrPedro13000 Pƙed rokem +11

      It's actually not the hard, I live in The Netherlands and there was a lot of coverage on the news on the election day and the following. On the first turn I was in portugal and that was all that was being talked about on the news and even by people at the beach lol, but I guess for portugal its not so surprising

    • @BeckasGunner
      @BeckasGunner Pƙed rokem +6

      same here. Although its sad to see how politics in Brazil turned into a very hateful thing, with almost no facts, just supersticions that are created to put more heat into people's hatred.

    • @leglz3102
      @leglz3102 Pƙed rokem +5

      foda que pronunciam os nomes como se nos fossemos falantes de espanhol por exemplo jose ela disse rose

  • @luizeduardofreitasleite4707
    @luizeduardofreitasleite4707 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +5

    As a brazilian i can talk Lula was acused of being involved in numerous corruption scandals (more than 50). he was released from jail because the STF (as a supreme Court in the US) didn't judge him because he had more than 70 years old, and also because the STF changed its interpretation of improsenment during the second instancy.

  • @d_dave7200
    @d_dave7200 Pƙed rokem +1086

    The fact that this video does not highlight what actually happened with Lula's prosecution and the bogus nature of the charges is really pretty terrible.

    • @Legogazer
      @Legogazer Pƙed rokem +24

      Terrible journalism for ya

    • @dobrasil8479
      @dobrasil8479 Pƙed rokem +5

      Delusional

    • @ginandromeda1618
      @ginandromeda1618 Pƙed rokem +53

      Vox and other american channels tend to fail at explaining Latam politics. They're just witnesses of the rest of the world.

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago Pƙed rokem +34

      Whats pretty terrible is when people use that prosecution example to excuse Lula's corruption

    • @PortalEMCioranBrasil
      @PortalEMCioranBrasil Pƙed rokem +2

      Very well observed.

  • @DarylBaines
    @DarylBaines Pƙed rokem +1310

    You can't discount the involvement of Cambridge Analytica in bringing Bolsonaro to power.

    • @eliomarlacerda6943
      @eliomarlacerda6943 Pƙed rokem

      As well as the White House using NSA, CIA, FBI since 2013 to help brazilian right wing to overthrow the former president Dilma Roussef with a coup (and also spy Brazil state oil company Petrobras) jointly with brazilian Federal Prosecutor to perform lawfare against Lula and his party preventing him to run for presidency in 2018

    • @Emersonunes
      @Emersonunes Pƙed rokem +31

      @@MarcosPaulo-xs5em pesquisas aos quais foram mostradas todo santo dia dando uma enorme vantagem pra lulinha para os indecisos preferissem votar nele achando que ele venceria

    • @lucasmiranda5273
      @lucasmiranda5273 Pƙed rokem +2

      ????

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 Pƙed rokem

      huh

    • @SirFaceFone
      @SirFaceFone Pƙed rokem

      Cambridge Analytica damaged a lot of democracies around the world. In the Philippines, it helped elect a dictator's son to the presidency.

  • @gutsfeliz2150
    @gutsfeliz2150 Pƙed rokem +70

    05:16 wasn't just a recession, it was literally the BIGGEST recession on Brazil TO THIS DAY(yes, bigger than covid)

    • @gabrielsiqueira4384
      @gabrielsiqueira4384 Pƙed rokem +18

      Not true, COVID retracted the economy in 4.7% as 2014 crisis causes a retraction of 3.5%. Brazil got out of the list of 10 biggest economies in the beggining of 2021

    • @gilbertopereira7795
      @gilbertopereira7795 Pƙed rokem

      @@gabrielsiqueira4384 you’re the trumpist from the tropics and will spread misinformation just for the sake of it

    • @VNZish
      @VNZish Pƙed rokem +9

      They also acted like the recession reason was because of the commoditys price fall, in reality it was the fact that in Lula goverment he suported many polices, specially ignoring the budget celling. Their police kept themself working because of the comodity surplus but it was a ticking time bomb and they just ignored it.
      The anoying part is that since it happened after Lula goverment, in his debates he just throws is positives numbers since the negatives came after, and even looking at the growth during his time, if you compare it with the region (South America) and countrys in a similiar economic situation ( emergent economus - BRICKS) youll see his economic group was just staying on track. This also includes poverty assistence sonce there was a global tendency of lesser poverty in that time

    • @raph2k01
      @raph2k01 Pƙed rokem +4

      A simple google search shows that this is false, the 80s had the largest economic recession (not to mention the poverty rates were much larger than in the 2010s).

    • @luciano12sa
      @luciano12sa Pƙed rokem

      @@gabrielsiqueira4384 By a couple of years, not almost a decade. 2023 its the year the economy gets back to what it was pre Dilma! That's how bad that recession was, don't try to defend a CRISIS! Nothing about it was good!

  • @tropadagringa4947
    @tropadagringa4947 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +10

    people in brazil still waiting for their picanha đŸ€Ł

  • @petruccirafa
    @petruccirafa Pƙed rokem +1345

    A correction: Rouseff was never included in the corruption from Petrobras (The oil state company) as said on the video (not my opinion, you can search for all juridical sources). Her economic plan was not good and trying to reduce the corruption mainly from the center/right parties, she creates issues with the parliament that, with the wealthy people, forced her government to an end. The police operation that has found that massive corruption was dried after she left the power, as an extra evidence of what really happened.

    • @balham456
      @balham456 Pƙed rokem +56

      Minister for Energy and Petrobras CEO.
      She was involved in Petrolao, 100%.

    • @aloisiocosta2774
      @aloisiocosta2774 Pƙed rokem +89

      @@balham456 yeah if only they had the evidence to be as confident as your comment is

    • @petruccirafa
      @petruccirafa Pƙed rokem +18

      Again, no juridical sources.

    • @Formed123
      @Formed123 Pƙed rokem +27

      Dilma was on the of the board of directors of Petrobras 2003-2010, right when Lavajato picked up steam in 2004.
      Dilma was very close to Dirceu during the time of Mensalao.
      Dilma was chair of the board at Petrobras at the height of Mensalao and when the dutch contractor SBM was found to be paying bribes to Petrobras personnel and to her Workers Party.

    • @aloisiocosta2774
      @aloisiocosta2774 Pƙed rokem

      @@Formed123 all of that is circumstantial and no actual evidence of corruption was ever brought up against dilma which is evident in the fact that they werent able to take away her electability after her controversial impeachment

  • @lucasoliveira8652
    @lucasoliveira8652 Pƙed rokem +4

    you forgot to say that the whole prision/impeachment thing was ilegal

  • @homunculii
    @homunculii Pƙed rokem +8

    You know Vox don't have the slightest idea about what they are talking when they can't even pronounce the name of the guy correctly.
    Congrats.

    • @agentemiojo4796
      @agentemiojo4796 Pƙed rokem +1

      Yea yea, and we still spell "anime" errado e idai

  • @AC-im4hi
    @AC-im4hi Pƙed rokem +1301

    As an American, I'm so used to seeing left as blue and right as red that this is tripping me up. Yes, I know it used to be flipped in the US as well.

    • @rkeogh3467
      @rkeogh3467 Pƙed rokem +2

      In most of the world the left is red

    • @AC-im4hi
      @AC-im4hi Pƙed rokem +90

      @@rkeogh3467 I'm aware. We used to be red for left as well becuase it was associated with communism. I'm pretty sure it changed becuase of the Reagan election it was easier to have red for Reagan.

    • @nevreiha
      @nevreiha Pƙed rokem +141

      it is a very common color layout. I think of it as red being the banner of the workers who wish to distribute wealth and power and blue being the banner of the conservatives who wish to primarily maintain their economy, society and wealth as they believe it should be.

    • @redhidinghood9337
      @redhidinghood9337 Pƙed rokem +1

      It wasn't flipped in the US. It was right, and then got flipped to what u have now. Across the world red is the color of the left and socialism

    • @sebastianhoppe2118
      @sebastianhoppe2118 Pƙed rokem +46

      I always associate red with left and blue with right

  • @leopasseti7500
    @leopasseti7500 Pƙed rokem +521

    Some very important circumstances were omitted from the video, such as the coup to impeach Dilma and the partial role of the judge that convicted Lula (who started a political career of his own soon after and became Minister of Justice in Bolsonaro's government)

    • @tulasigopinath
      @tulasigopinath Pƙed rokem +11

      papo reto

    • @matheus5230
      @matheus5230 Pƙed rokem +39

      It was not a coup. And her government was bad.

    • @nuance8530
      @nuance8530 Pƙed rokem +1

      Liberal media is not friends with conservatives, progressives, socialists. Only other liberals.

    • @Gui1The
      @Gui1The Pƙed rokem +2

      @@matheus5230 It was a bad government but it was still a coup, and look at where we ended up in... She wasnt impeached because of any crime she commited, she got impeached because she didnt have a majority in congress or in the senate, and the legislative was activelly sabotaging her government.
      Bolsonaro's government is 1000x worse than Dilma's but the only reason he didnt got impeached is because he is handing out tens of billions of dollars to the congress, Dilma would never do that lol

    • @leonardoloebens1824
      @leonardoloebens1824 Pƙed rokem +9

      Also that time when Bolsonaro was stabbed, that really changed the way the election was going.

  • @samanthapasoti3114
    @samanthapasoti3114 Pƙed rokem +3

    The whole world was affected by Covid. Bolsonaro's government provided 600 BRL per month of support for poor people, it enable the country to reduce its poverty index. The violence in Brazil decreased by more than 20% in the right-wing government. They also finished building a bridge to take water to the Northeast - a work that PT's government hadn't finished.

  • @wuraolasdiary
    @wuraolasdiary Pƙed rokem +237

    I currently live in Brazil and it's been a year. I just want to say a big thank you for explaining this whole election in the simplest way ever. I am so grateful. Now i can add to my research and educate my subscribers. Thank you

    • @cyberpunkqueen1525
      @cyberpunkqueen1525 Pƙed rokem +25

      While this is a good starting point for understanding Brazil's political situation, I would recommend doing further research on some of the topics that were only lightly touched on, particularly Lula's arrest and Dilma's impeachment. Both are much more complex than the video makes them seem. I would recommend the Oscar-nominated documentary Edge of Democracy on Netflix to understand the political climate during Dilma's impeachment trial. It's from the POV of someone who was against her impeachment (as a great many Brazilians were) but it covers the issues many of us had with the way this trial was conducted, as well as showing the side of this period that much of the foreign press pays little attention to.

    • @wuraolasdiary
      @wuraolasdiary Pƙed rokem +2

      @@cyberpunkqueen1525 wow thank you very much for this insight. I would watch that show too . Thank you so much

    • @LeandroBeretta22
      @LeandroBeretta22 Pƙed rokem

      Educate with lies? That’s indoctrination

    • @thesilentgamer1195
      @thesilentgamer1195 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@cyberpunkqueen1525 Many were against? lol Oh yes because we, Brazilians, were so happy about the worst economic crisis in the history of our country under Dilma. I really miss those times.

    • @Kawayoporu
      @Kawayoporu Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      +@@wuraolasdiary Your American just moved to Brazil?

  • @asankajayaweera7212
    @asankajayaweera7212 Pƙed rokem +182

    Dear Vox,
    Can you make a video like this on how Sri Lanka was bankrupted. Actually my country had a long history of corruption, abuse and embezzlement but a one political family called Rajapaksa regime intensified all those bad things and now we experienced a massive and severe decline in everything. So please focus on this matter as well.

    • @tinaandro1178
      @tinaandro1178 Pƙed rokem +9

      Vice did a video on it called "How A Family Allegedly "Ruined" Sri Lanka's Economy | The Big Steal" but yeah I would also like to see Vox's version

    • @fullmetaltheorist
      @fullmetaltheorist Pƙed rokem +2

      Cold fusion made a video about Sri Lanka. It's a great video. Go watch it.

    • @asankajayaweera7212
      @asankajayaweera7212 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@fullmetaltheorist but I wanna see a video on Vox too.

    • @asankajayaweera7212
      @asankajayaweera7212 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@tinaandro1178 Vox story telling is unique and creative. And also it has a larger audience. In that sense, we can permeate awareness of our country's situation.

    • @tinaandro1178
      @tinaandro1178 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@asankajayaweera7212 I also like their creativity

  • @jungleb
    @jungleb Pƙed rokem +366

    no mention of sergio moro?

    • @larl07
      @larl07 Pƙed rokem +38

      I don't think this audience wants to see a left-winger as a criminal... Just a case of "read the room, bro"

    • @sudi_cloud
      @sudi_cloud Pƙed rokem +42

      @@larl07 , Perhaps you should have said: "I don't think this audience wants to see a far-right-winger as a criminal. Or not đŸ€” This audience does want to see a far-right-winger in jail. đŸ€­

    • @larl07
      @larl07 Pƙed rokem +21

      @@sudi_cloud nah i meant that this video is not about how Lula is a criminal. That's why Moro is not mentioned, this audience is one which tends to want to root for the left winger, regardless of the ~18 billion returned from his corruption schemes.

    • @fiattenebris
      @fiattenebris Pƙed rokem

      @@larl07 to accuse someone of a crime you need proof beyond a PowerPoint presentation. To say "alleged" corruption and leave it at that without mentioning Sergio Moro does not tell the whole story. By the way, in which of Lula's secret Swiss Bank accounts were these 18 billion you mention stashed away?

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Pƙed rokem +25

      Perhaps it was too divisive. But Sergio Moro and his relationship with Bolsonaro should not be ignored.

  • @mattcrvg
    @mattcrvg Pƙed rokem +31

    Yeah, I wouldn't expect a English language vehicle to pick up on the nuances about the matter. Like how the reason to why the process that led to Lula's prison was judged by someone that later admitted to have a personal vendetta against Lula and actually served as Justice Minister for Bolsonaro. This man was SĂ©rgio Moro, who late on Bolsonaro's time in charge left the government claiming he did everything Bolsonaro asked him so he could protect Bolsonaro's criminal sons, but also supported Bolsonaro in his campaign and got elected as senator.
    Another fun fact: SĂ©rgio Moro had meetings with the CIA and United Started Defense department. Private meetings. As a member of Brazilian government. After leaving Bolsonaro's government, he went on to work in companies that had their entire business around rescuing the Brazilian companies SĂ©rgio Moro helped to destroy. Pretty convenient, right?
    Anyone can check this up online.
    Another massive mistake here is to say that Dilma herself was involved in any corruption scheme around Petrobras or, even worse, that was the reason she got taken out from office. She wasn't and her impeachment was a literal coup, where she got accused of practices Bolsonaro and many others would do before and after her and never got the same judgment. Also, another tip to the fraudulent backbone of it all: one of the legal consequences of a impeachment in Brazil is the loss of political rights, but Dilma didn't lost hers, in a unbelievable demonstration that they just needed her out, not necessarily being concerned about the law.

    • @VitorHugoP
      @VitorHugoP Pƙed rokem +4

      Funny you only talk about Sergio Moro (who later was running against Bolsonaro) but forget to mention the other 9 judges who not only condemned Lula, but INCREASED his imprisonment period after Sergio Moro

    • @user-cv4ur4ms7q
      @user-cv4ur4ms7q Pƙed rokem

      @@VitorHugoP Moro's never run against Bolsonaro. He was actually with Bolsonaro Team in the the 2nd round, even though he pointed that Bolsonaro was making efforts for obstruction of justice. It doesn't matter that Lula was convicted of corruption by the the Court. The process itself was null for 2 fundamental reasons: it shouldn't be prosecuted in ParanĂĄ and because Moro was promised a chair in the Supreme Court, so he worked with the prosecuters to make Lula go to jail and Bolsonaro could win the 2018 election.

  • @gabrielluz1655
    @gabrielluz1655 Pƙed rokem +4

    Eu nunca vi tanta bobeira na minha vida

  • @gabraf
    @gabraf Pƙed rokem +343

    just a little note. in portugues unlike spanish the name jose is actually pronounced jo-ze instead of ho-se

    • @MamacitaBonita
      @MamacitaBonita Pƙed rokem +3

      Did you know that the USA invented the airplane and not Brazil?

    • @sergionada1
      @sergionada1 Pƙed rokem +82

      @@MamacitaBonita Santos Dummont didnt need a slingshot kekw

    • @pedrosabino8899
      @pedrosabino8899 Pƙed rokem +49

      @@MamacitaBonita catapulta nĂŁo voa

    • @MamacitaBonita
      @MamacitaBonita Pƙed rokem +2

      @@pedrosabino8899 sua mĂŁe voa muito bem!!!

    • @pedrosabino8899
      @pedrosabino8899 Pƙed rokem +33

      @@MamacitaBonita obrigado! Ela Ă© uma Ăłtima piloto de helicĂłptero!!

  • @oliverzort
    @oliverzort Pƙed rokem +53

    que histĂłria mais mal contada, me faz pensar muito sobre todos os outros videos internacionais que vocĂȘs produzem
    parece que sĂł mostra o que convem

    • @AlexPenna55
      @AlexPenna55 Pƙed rokem +3

      Anos de política resumidos em 10 minutos deixam o vídeo faltando MUITOS pedaços fundamentais, tanto pra defender/acusar o Lula quanto pra evidenciar problemas do Bolsonaro. Porém concordo q tå raso demais

  • @vitor8519
    @vitor8519 Pƙed rokem +3

    There is so many wrong information about Bolsonaro's government in this video.

  • @h0field
    @h0field Pƙed rokem +6

    basically we are seeing a video of a person with bad administration being like this in his 2 terms being below average per administration
    he stole billions of BRL and his government only had low inflation because of commodity valuations the whole world was like that
    he wants to control social networks in Brazil too

    • @h0field
      @h0field Pƙed rokem

      Lula was released from prison without being cleared

    • @h0field
      @h0field Pƙed rokem

      I am Brazilian

    • @menash000
      @menash000 Pƙed rokem +1

      bolsonarista encontrado

    • @ufDINI
      @ufDINI Pƙed rokem

      @@menash000 oshi

    • @h0field
      @h0field Pƙed rokem

      @@menash000 sou um Investidor e entendo meios de economia e polĂ­tica diferentemente de vĂĄrios vitimistas sem base de argumentos sobre o meio de polĂ­tica e economia

  • @sarahsucupira3238
    @sarahsucupira3238 Pƙed rokem +105

    I'm impressed of how things can be oversimplified..

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 Pƙed rokem +2

      true but i cant find better material about the brazilian election

    • @kardush
      @kardush Pƙed rokem +3

      wait to see the tiktok version. lol

    • @Dani_el_Duck
      @Dani_el_Duck Pƙed rokem +9

      @@readisgooddewaterkant7890 "thejuicemedia" covered the current Government pretty well. "The edge of democracy" is a documentary about the Dilma situation that was nominated for the Oscar

    • @tuthures5824
      @tuthures5824 Pƙed rokem +7

      @@Dani_el_Duck yeah the left-wing channel just to clarify

    • @nettofred
      @nettofred Pƙed rokem +5

      @@tuthures5824 Bozo is destroying the biggest forest on earth, just to clarify

  • @sanchez212
    @sanchez212 Pƙed rokem +362

    Good video, but there were certain aspects of the story (how the judge that persecuted Lula is a close Bolsonaro ally and the UN saying that the trail wasn't fair) that could have helped to understand it better as a whole.

    • @egonrl
      @egonrl Pƙed rokem +22

      I came here to say this, thanks, the "judge" part is a crucial one

    • @matheus5230
      @matheus5230 Pƙed rokem

      @@egonrl If you really believe Lula is inocent, and not a massive insanelu corrupt thief, like his party, I'm sorry.

    • @egonrl
      @egonrl Pƙed rokem +6

      @@matheus5230, mah guy, you have nothing to be sorry about, don't worry. But could you just let me know if Roberto Jefferson is your friend or foe at this point? JĂĄ pintou um clima between him and Bolsonaro? Thanks in advance

    • @matheus5230
      @matheus5230 Pƙed rokem

      @@egonrl Roberto Jefferson has zero sympathy from me. He is a proven corrupt.

    • @pedrocastro5991
      @pedrocastro5991 Pƙed rokem +8

      Sir, arquivado e MUITO diferente de absolvido. Sergio Moro claramente foi imparcial, mas as provas continuam ai


  • @biancamuniz3701
    @biancamuniz3701 Pƙed rokem +29

    Tå, agora façam um documentårio falando a verdade

    • @K4lamazu
      @K4lamazu Pƙed rokem +23

      O mundo real nĂŁo Ă© como dizem no grupo da famĂ­lia no zape zape. Ou vocĂȘ abre o olho para a verdade ou vai para a porta de um quartel chorar e virar meme.

  • @caueabud3085
    @caueabud3085 Pƙed rokem +16

    They simply rolled back the court case, he was not absolved of anything,

  • @GuilhermeVieiraSechat
    @GuilhermeVieiraSechat Pƙed rokem +495

    Thanks for your video. Small correction: in portuguese "j" is pronounced more like in english than in spanish. José Alencar

    • @zvlfn
      @zvlfn Pƙed rokem

      I don't know which one to pick, It pronounce H Hose Alencar or Y Yose Alencar

    • @matheuscassimiro342
      @matheuscassimiro342 Pƙed rokem +83

      @@zvlfn none of them actually hahaha, It's more like J in words like joker or jackson

    • @thon6760
      @thon6760 Pƙed rokem +24

      @@zvlfn @waterbonkie is right. The letter J in portuguese always has the same sound as "conclusion", "pleasure", "unusual" (/ʒ/ phoneme).
      Examples: "José Alencar", "Lava-jato" (Car Wash Operation), "janela" (window), "jogo" (game), "coruja" (owl).
      It's a bit hard for us brazillians because we don't have the J sound in portuguese - like in "jazz", "job", "age", "edge" or "general" (/dʒ/ phoneme), so when we say "Jackson" it's common to use /ʒ/ phoneme instead of the /dʒ/ phoneme, because it's a new sound for us.

    • @XGD
      @XGD Pƙed rokem +12

      @@thon6760 we do have the dzh sound. Especially in words such as "Jonathan" (sometimes spelled DiĂŽnatan), or any other words with "di" in many dialects.
      Edit: also in borrowed words such as the ones you've listed. It's already a pretty common sound in our pronunciation of "jazz" and "job"

    • @tufab3494
      @tufab3494 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@zvlfn none of the options are right. It's actually pronounced "JOE zé"

  • @andreeliasguedes9382
    @andreeliasguedes9382 Pƙed rokem +255

    I find it funny that these international media channels don't say a word about The Intercept's "Vaza Jato" and its role on Lula's freedom.

    • @mariihmello7659
      @mariihmello7659 Pƙed rokem

      So, they show as if Lula was a super clean opposition to Bolsonaro, which is clearly a lie, he is corrupt.

    • @ridethelighting83
      @ridethelighting83 Pƙed rokem +6

      Please explain

    • @jeremiasteliasperez4507
      @jeremiasteliasperez4507 Pƙed rokem

      @@ridethelighting83 The Intercept found irrefutable proof that Moro, the judge that convicted Lula and was later appointed as a Minister by Bolsonaro himself, was instructing prosecutors to find whatever way possible to frame Lula. No material evidence was ever found to prove Lula's personal involvement with any corruption scandal. Eventually, his convictions were overturned due to lack of evidence and illegal practices by judge Moro during the trials.

    • @thiagokossmann5455
      @thiagokossmann5455 Pƙed rokem

      @@ridethelighting83 Basically, leaked Telegram chats between the judge (Sergio Moro, who later became Bolsonaro's Minister of Justice) and the attorneys that convicted Lula showed that it was not a fair judgement, and the intention was to get him arrested all the time, no matter if the evidence was inconclusive.

    • @__peanuts__
      @__peanuts__ Pƙed rokem +2

      Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? Or at least it should.

  • @deephc
    @deephc Pƙed rokem +4

    You didnt come close to explaining Lula

  • @Francisco-qi3uk
    @Francisco-qi3uk Pƙed rokem +3

    Bolsonaro never ever tried any move against the media and the brazilian supreme court is basically favoring candidates in election, its just so bizarre... You might think that i'm some sort of radical, but let me tell you something:
    After the election a supreme court judge( the one who judged the election rules) went to a party with Lula and his lawyer to dance samba, can you believe this? its just so ridiculous... The same judge that New York Times said it was crossing the line...

  • @davirodriguessidor8501
    @davirodriguessidor8501 Pƙed rokem +5

    Americans really don't understand Brazil politics

    • @50-50_Grind
      @50-50_Grind Pƙed rokem +4

      They don't understand A LOT of things ...

    • @guto5285
      @guto5285 Pƙed rokem +2

      What did you expect ? They are americans.

  • @dragosardelean1462
    @dragosardelean1462 Pƙed rokem +77

    No one seems to know how to pronounce "Jose" the Portuguese way

    • @paulimriss
      @paulimriss Pƙed rokem +4

      yeah because the J is very different in the languages they know, spanish speak like "Hosé", sometimes "Yosé", and english speak with a "d" sound at the beginning.
      I think the better way to teach some english speaker to pronounce it correctly is to tell them to speak Joseph, but without the D sound and the "ph", and entone the "e"

    • @henriquepacheco7473
      @henriquepacheco7473 Pƙed rokem

      @@paulimriss You can also go after words that do the portuguese "j" sound in English, like Fusion (the s) or vision (again, the s) or seizure (the z)
      edit: or tell them it's the french "j", that would work too, if they know some french

  • @SteeleLeandro
    @SteeleLeandro Pƙed rokem +5

    It's hard to find so many lies together in such a short time.

  • @andremendes3179
    @andremendes3179 Pƙed rokem +7

    Great video. Just one thing: JosĂ© in portuguese is spelled ‘jay’ not ‘rose’ like in spanish

  • @rafaelnunes7156
    @rafaelnunes7156 Pƙed rokem +52

    Over simpliflied! Roussff was politically incapable of governing, but she was deposed by a coup. Lula was also arested for political reasons, the magistrate who issue the sentence took part with the attorney during trial, and later was suspended from office. He was also nominated minister in Bolsonaro's government, but resigned soon after corruption matters haunted the president's family. Now he has been elected senator and once again sided with Bolsonaro. Of course, Lula has also been involved in corruption schemes, but to explained what's happening in Brazil now, we must look at other political players not mentioned in the video.

  • @ElijahOyekunle
    @ElijahOyekunle Pƙed rokem +16

    7:30 Which country's GDP didn't go down in 2020??

  • @queissoyara
    @queissoyara Pƙed rokem +50

    Como disse a Dilma, ela era uma mulher dura em uma mesa cheia de homens fofos e carinhosos. Falar da Dilma com essa visĂŁo, Ă© uma visĂŁo rasa do que realmente aconteceu.

  • @RtHonElijah
    @RtHonElijah Pƙed rokem +10

    I am pretty sure that in PortuguĂȘs Jose isn’t pronounced as [H]ose in Spanish

  • @mateusferraridemelo4863
    @mateusferraridemelo4863 Pƙed rokem +63

    The video has some flaws here and there, but I like to see international interest onto Brazil, thanks for the video âœŒđŸ»âœŒđŸ»

  • @bs9591
    @bs9591 Pƙed rokem +86

    Vox ignored several key issues, such as the political involvement of the judge who sentenced Lula, Sergio Moro, who became Bolsonaro's justice minister. Obviously acted partially. A judge who openly hated Lula and the PT, who is now a politician.
    Vox ignored the messages that Moro exchanged with the prosecutors, giving guidelines on how to act, and the spurious strategy of lawfare and media defamation that the judge himself perpetrated.
    That is not the role of a judge. These and many other pieces of evidence, such as private conversations and public statements make it clear that Lula was unjustly imprisoned.
    Even the Lula process was considered political by the responsible committee of the United Nations, and dozens of associations and organizations of international jurists.
    This is a very important, VERY IMPORTANT issue not to be addressed.
    The media seems to be too cautious in exposing the reality about Lula's process and the obvious injustices that have been committed against him. And this is a huge injustice. When he was convicted by a regional judge, the media published the accusations against Lula without any criteria, as if they were absolute truths. Now that Lula is acquitted by the Supreme Court, by international courts and jurists, is the media afraid to show it?

    • @boyera23
      @boyera23 Pƙed rokem +2

      Yes đŸ‘đŸ»đŸ‘đŸ»

    • @ShayNoMore1
      @ShayNoMore1 Pƙed rokem

      The judge was independent and was latter kicked out off Bolsonaro government for reaching close to Bolsonaro s corrupted children
      The guy openly hated Bolsonaro
      Stop lying

    • @justfollow9965
      @justfollow9965 Pƙed rokem +9

      Lula has not been acquitted from his charges, please go over that information

    • @venerable9077
      @venerable9077 Pƙed rokem

      Lula wasn't acquitted by the Supreme Court. As Marco Aurélio said, he ain't innocent, i.e, the charges brought against him are still valid.

    • @Tinky11221
      @Tinky11221 Pƙed rokem +9

      Lula was never acquitted lol. He was sentenced in EVERY level, "instĂąncia", he only got out on a technicality, that the jurisdiction should have been in Brazilia.

  • @filipemangueira7950
    @filipemangueira7950 Pƙed rokem

    Excelent video
    I just loved the graphics

  • @thiagoalexandre8684
    @thiagoalexandre8684 Pƙed rokem +18

    RIP Brasil. Doomed to misery and corrupt populists...

    • @napi1650
      @napi1650 Pƙed rokem

      But the media says he’s an innocent flower condemned unfairly!!!! Ohhhhhhh😱😂

    • @Thesefiros
      @Thesefiros Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      ​@@napi1650media=fake news

  • @gabrielroque6664
    @gabrielroque6664 Pƙed rokem +212

    Good video. You just forgot to tell the viewers about how Sergio Moro, the judge that prosecuted Lula, was partial and after it joined the Bolsonaro government as a minister, then left Bolsonaro's government accusing it of being corrupt, but now he decided to support Bolsonaro's candidacy.

    • @silvanojunior7359
      @silvanojunior7359 Pƙed rokem +10

      Falar do Moro é chamar atenção pros EUA, o Moro teve ajuda deles. Por isso nem tocam no assunto

    • @victorcristo7274
      @victorcristo7274 Pƙed rokem +5

      Moro is the real-life Littlefinger, but thankully he's not that smart.

    • @waltrickaWFT
      @waltrickaWFT Pƙed rokem +2

      O moro ser parcial e ter ajuda do governo americano sĂŁo as minhas duas fanfics favoritas sobre toda essa histĂłria.

    • @gabrielroque6664
      @gabrielroque6664 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@waltrickaWFT NĂŁo Ă© fanfic. É fato, inclusive reconhecido por um comitĂȘ da ONU e pelo STF.

    • @gabrielroque6664
      @gabrielroque6664 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@matheusalbert1925 Se tiver dĂșvidas procure os tweets, os vĂ­deos dele na internet...
      Uma de suas declaraçÔes após sair do governo é bem interessante:
      "Sério que, entre um ladrão de um lado e um ladrão do outro, a culpa é do juiz? Entre o petrolão e a rachadinha, não hå escolha possível. Precisamos, sim, reformar nosso sistema de justiça para que casos de corrupção não fiquem impunes"

  • @giannixx
    @giannixx Pƙed rokem +914

    Small correction: Brazilian J is not pronounced like Spanish. For "José", think Zhozé, not Hozé.
    This is just an approximation due to the different phonetic inventories, but it's J as the S in "measure" or the Z in "seizure" (the same as French J), the O is closed as in "potencial", the S is pronounced like a Z, and the É is open somewhat like the A in "at".
    The more precise description is [ʒo.'zɛ], but many Brazilians reduce the first vowel to [u] or [ʊ] because it's unstressed, so many natives, including me, will actually say [ʒu.'zɛ].
    Also, for the surname "Alencar", there are two R sounds in Brazilian Portuguese, /ÉŸ/ (alveolar tap, like T in "better" or "water" in some dialects) and /x/ (voiceless velar fricative, like Scottish "loch"), this one is the tap. In standard Brazilian Portuguese, the R is never like in English "red" or "rose".

    • @mariablanc6354
      @mariablanc6354 Pƙed rokem +9

      WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!

    • @giseliogozelio
      @giseliogozelio Pƙed rokem +43

      @@mariablanc6354 lfmao

    • @arodvaz1955
      @arodvaz1955 Pƙed rokem +15

      They roll their rs in Sao Paulo, though. It's the way their dialect is.

    • @BernardoPatino
      @BernardoPatino Pƙed rokem +4

      most English speakers don't roll their R's, you mean Spanish

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Pƙed rokem +4

      I forget that Brazil was colonized by Portugal, not Spain.

  • @caiquec.m.4317
    @caiquec.m.4317 Pƙed rokem +4

    Fato engraçado, o vice do Lula (Geraldo Alckmin) , jĂĄ concorreu a presidĂȘncia 5 vezes, sempre falando mal do Lula

  • @RicardoBarbosa-se7yj
    @RicardoBarbosa-se7yj Pƙed rokem +22

    WINNING AN ELECTION, DOESNT MEAN GAINING THE PEOPLE'S RESPECT!!!

    • @joaorichter9970
      @joaorichter9970 Pƙed rokem +8

      It means gaining the respect of the majority, and that's all that matters. It's called democracy 😊

    • @tarkin518
      @tarkin518 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@joaorichter9970 but yeah, the Picanha is worth it, surely!!!!!

    • @tarkin518
      @tarkin518 Pƙed rokem

      @sunrise not defending Sir Bolsonaro at all, didn't even mention it but surely the teenager minion will blindedly follow his 9-fingered dictator (until he has to commit cannibalism)
      your argument against literally all i've presented: "stahp trying!:("

    • @tiagosousa2378
      @tiagosousa2378 Pƙed rokem

      @@joaorichter9970 2 millions of vote of difference is not majority, and its proven that there was buying of votes

    • @joaorichter9970
      @joaorichter9970 Pƙed rokem

      @@tiagosousa2378 it is. Would you mind reading the definition of "majority" in the dictionary please? And you are right, there was buying of votes, for bolsonaro! Many business owners payed their employees (or otherwise just threatened them of being fired) to vote for bolsonaro, let alone the PRF operations to try and stop as many buses as they could full of northeastern low income people, to stop them from voting and lower the amount of votes Lula would get. All in all, Bolsonaro used everything in his power to win the election, and still lost. Ouch!

  • @huntress_9441
    @huntress_9441 Pƙed rokem +69

    This video has me googling "who owns Vox"

  • @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346
    @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346 Pƙed rokem +408

    Great to see that you guys are involved with Brazilian issues - especially the recent threats to the country's democracy. However, many important points that should be mentioned about the impeachment of former President Dilma Rousseff as well as the absolutely outrageous arrest of President Luis InĂĄcio Lula da Silva were left out. With all due respect, more concise explanations of such a complex political scheme were completely ignored.

    • @blythe546
      @blythe546 Pƙed rokem +3

      Is there anywhere you’d recommended i can read about this?

    • @venerable9077
      @venerable9077 Pƙed rokem

      Outrageous arrest of Lula? He's a thief.

    • @felipelandim2881
      @felipelandim2881 Pƙed rokem +45

      "absolutely outrageous arrest" HAUHAUHAUHUAHUAHUAHU. The arrest was maintained time and time again, but yeah, Lula supporters know the law more than all of brazilian judges.

    • @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346
      @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346 Pƙed rokem +11

      @@felipelandim2881 The game of 'impartiality' between brazilian judges is actually quite known all over the world, don't be fooled.

    • @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346
      @maryrabelo.s.wagner8346 Pƙed rokem +9

      @@blythe546 Watch „The Edge of Democracy“, a Netflix production, just to get the big picture.

  • @onorioneto3798
    @onorioneto3798 Pƙed rokem +7

    GANHAMOS!!!! A Democracia venceu!

    • @johndraper4211
      @johndraper4211 Pƙed rokem +1

      ?????? A democracia ia acontecer de qlqr forma de um dos lados, acho q n é mt democråtico dizer q um sistema de eleição venceu só pq seu lado venceu e a outra metade do país não pq n concorda com seus ideais.

    • @onorioneto3798
      @onorioneto3798 Pƙed rokem

      @@johndraper4211 deixa eu ver se entendi, um dos dois queria aumentar o numero de ministros no supremo pra ter maioria, aparelhou a PF pra nĂŁo ser investigado e fazia apologia a ditadura no paĂ­s desde a Ă©poca de Deputado, mas os dois eram igualmente democratas?

    • @johndraper4211
      @johndraper4211 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@onorioneto3798 Ter uma maioria no supremo não quer dizer literalmente nada, jå que não garante nem sequer alguma vitória em um julgamento ou um apoio, se fosse assim, o PT jå possuía desde muito tempo uma maioria avassaladora no supremo, logo, isso não quer dizer se tratar de um regime antidemocråtico, jå que o próprio Lula possuía grande parte do supremo e foi eleito por um grande tempo repetidamente. Sobre a PF, sinceramente, não deu a entender bem o que quis dizer, mas se tu se referiu sobre indicar um superintendente da PF, isso é literalmente uma atribuição de todo presidente a ser eleito no país.
      Sobre a ditadura n tenho mt oq falar msm, jĂĄ que nĂŁo sou muito apegado ao tema da ditadura militar, mas ao menos sei que defender Ă© uma coisa e fazer apologia Ă© outra. Tal coisa que o PT jĂĄ fez apologia a ditaduras socialistas/"comunistas" na AmĂ©rica, como no caso da Venezuela e de Cuba(tirando a ditadura chinesa), mas claro, isso nĂŁo Ă© antidemocrĂĄtico, Ă© apenas apoiar um bando de ditaduras com uma apegada de sua ideologia. EntĂŁo nĂŁo, acho que nĂŁo foi antidemocrĂĄtico por parte da metade de seu paĂ­s apenas por estar de um lado oposto e concordar com ideais diferentes, lembrando que passamos 4 anos e por estarmos em um regime democrĂĄtico nĂŁo deu poder algum a um presidente(que sinceramente, nĂŁo possui tanto poder quanto aparenta), tanto que a mĂ­dia junto de outros criticaram ele durante todo seu governo sem medo algum e das formas mais diversas e atĂ© mesmo estĂșpidas possĂ­veis, e ainda nĂŁo vejo um enorme cartaz do "glorioso lĂ­der Bolsonaro" em qualquer lugar polĂ­tico como uma figura suprema, "metade" do paĂ­s destestando-o, "metade" do paĂ­s apoiando-o/idolantrando-o e o resto simplesmente nĂŁo apoiando ninguĂ©m e indo na leva.

    • @onorioneto3798
      @onorioneto3798 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@johndraper4211 beleza cara, jå entendi que vc ta se esforçando muito pra não ver nada, fica a vontade ai no seu mundinho

    • @Alexson_Mamed
      @Alexson_Mamed Pƙed rokem +1

      Tu literalmente tĂĄ acusando o cara do que cĂȘ faz/fez/tĂĄ fazendo HAHAHAHAHA

  • @lucassallum10
    @lucassallum10 Pƙed rokem +3

    This video is very poor made. And it is skewed!! Im Brazillian, and it is really sad whats happening here. And what is really concerning is that most part of the media, local media and international media, is contributing to to the loss of freedom of the brazillian people.

  • @Cojiro00
    @Cojiro00 Pƙed rokem +9

    You forgot to talk about Moro participation in Lula's prinsion. Them he became Bolsonaro's minister.

  • @THERODRIGOoriginal
    @THERODRIGOoriginal Pƙed rokem +83

    I don't get why English-speakers pronounce José (when the name is, clearly, supposed to be in Portuguese) as they do in Spanish. Just pronounce the 'J' as you would in the name James or Joseph.

    • @GTAVictor9128
      @GTAVictor9128 Pƙed rokem +26

      It's a common mistake that they assume J in Portuguese is pronounced the same as it is in Spanish.
      And actually, it's pronounce like zh rather than English J.

    • @giannixx
      @giannixx Pƙed rokem +17

      Or, rather, pronounce it the correct way (phoneme /ʒ/, think the French J).
      But yeah, between mistakenly pronouncing it like in Spanish and doing it in English, the latter is the better. There's already enough people that think we just speak Spanish like everybody else in the region.

    • @THERODRIGOoriginal
      @THERODRIGOoriginal Pƙed rokem +3

      @@giannixx it'd be close enough and, more importantly, not sound Spanish.

    • @Dingosean
      @Dingosean Pƙed rokem +3

      It's not English speakers so much as US Americans... British commonly prounce the hard J because they are either lazy/uncultured or due to their closer ties to Portugal where they have a hundred years old alliance, whereas Americans are very closely tied to Latin America in trade and culture and a large minority speaks Spanish fluently.

    • @save_bandit
      @save_bandit Pƙed rokem +6

      it’s not that deep man. relax

  • @sanjgij
    @sanjgij Pƙed rokem +44

    Glenn Greenwald deserves a huge shout out for documenting how Lula’s prosecution was corrupt, ultimately leading to his being freed. Lula would not have won, but for Glenn Greenwald’s tireless journalism.

    • @ZUPYNinGAME
      @ZUPYNinGAME Pƙed rokem +9

      Would u praise Glenn also for his saying about Alexandre de Moraes hunting on conserrvatives here in Brazil?

    • @tiagosousa2378
      @tiagosousa2378 Pƙed rokem +5

      Sergio moro could have been parcial, but what about the other judges at even further instances?

    • @ZUPYNinGAME
      @ZUPYNinGAME Pƙed rokem

      @@tiagosousa2378 They "forget" that Lula was convicted by more than 8 ppl

    • @quickcube2834
      @quickcube2834 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

      @@ZUPYNinGAME tu quoque

  • @donnydarko1448
    @donnydarko1448 Pƙed rokem +9

    A politician convicted of corruption should not be at all allowed to run again

    • @denisebrunel
      @denisebrunel Pƙed rokem

      đŸ‡§đŸ‡·đŸ’™đŸ’šđŸ‘đŸ‘đŸ‘đŸ‘đŸ‘

    • @Dxtr67
      @Dxtr67 Pƙed rokem

      So... idk if you've heard about it... but his convictions were annulled đŸ€Șbtw, he's been proven innocent in all recent verdicts

  • @MikeyfromBOS
    @MikeyfromBOS Pƙed rokem +79

    It is striking that Brazil, socioeconomically, is in such a similar situation as the US.

    • @GTAVictor9128
      @GTAVictor9128 Pƙed rokem +28

      From a political standpoint, Poland is actually a near-perfect mirror reflection of the US, as there are only 2 main political parties: far-right nationalist and Christian-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, and the centrist Civic Platform (PO), with no true left-wing party.

    • @AC-im4hi
      @AC-im4hi Pƙed rokem +15

      You really can't compare the economy of a country with a GDP per capita under $7000 to the US. It's not even close n

    • @fep_ptcp883
      @fep_ptcp883 Pƙed rokem +33

      I'm brazilian. We're the poor cousin. But we're all f**ked up

    • @BLOCKBOI3RD
      @BLOCKBOI3RD Pƙed rokem +1

      That is a big lie

    • @Krusty-kl5ej
      @Krusty-kl5ej Pƙed rokem

      the similarity was in foreign intervention (CCP-WEF) with sponsored machine voting tabulation

  • @bleyd5000
    @bleyd5000 Pƙed rokem +43

    you guys missed a very important factor in this history the way that the lava jato investigations were conducted, a key factor was the participation of the judge sergio moro and how he was more like a part of the prossecutors, wich led ultimatly to the accusations being droped under these circumstances of impartiality.
    that being said, lula isn't the first choice for many, primarely becouse of these corruption scandals, and bolsonaro is more like a last resort, and the same applys to lula, for many that want bolsonaro out of power, these are complicated times for brasil.

    • @kandiesky
      @kandiesky Pƙed rokem +6

      Nope, they weren't dropped. What happened was, the supreme court ruled that the process be redone from scratch because it was judged in, by their words, the "wrong city".

    • @bleyd5000
      @bleyd5000 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@kandiesky and after that they were dropped, that’s why I said ultimately and what aways have been used by the defense of Lula was the role of Sergio Moro and the way that the prosecutors executed all of these investigations, with total disregard for the presumption of innocence and all that make the justice system just, including disrespecting were the process should have been judged, Lula was one of the most corrupt politicians in Brazilian history and should be in jail but every one has the right to a fair trial, including him.

    • @kandiesky
      @kandiesky Pƙed rokem +5

      @@bleyd5000 They were not dropped. The process restarted and they WANT it to be dropped

    • @kandiesky
      @kandiesky Pƙed rokem +4

      @@bleyd5000Anyway, it was a fair trial. Anyone who says otherwise wasn't watching it closely

  • @Otterstone
    @Otterstone Pƙed rokem +31

    I'm very worried about the future of Brazil and their people after this election. Stay safe y'all love from the United States đŸ‡șđŸ‡Čâ€ïžđŸ‡§đŸ‡·

    • @mu.ri.lo.f
      @mu.ri.lo.f Pƙed rokem

      ???

    • @AiarteBrasill
      @AiarteBrasill Pƙed rokem

      Me leva pra morar aĂ­ ?

    • @ordemeprogresso727
      @ordemeprogresso727 Pƙed rokem +1

      Agree, thank U. Brazil will never become a well function society, compared to US. Our politician only cares about themselves and their people, inequality it's un rise not just between people of difference background but also on greedy political view for the middel-class's and upper class and etc...

    • @mendigomoderno
      @mendigomoderno Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

      is going to have a war betwen brasil china russia... and europe end usa

  • @marckvinny
    @marckvinny Pƙed rokem +1

    Thank You for share our story, few know what we've been through.

  • @TheElevenBravo
    @TheElevenBravo Pƙed rokem +6

    Good job putting this video together!

  • @Hassebrawbier
    @Hassebrawbier Pƙed rokem +9

    8:32 There are no former president in Brasil who can be considered "righ".

    • @Arthur-ns7bt
      @Arthur-ns7bt Pƙed rokem +1

      almost all of them are in what do we call "centrĂŁo", because they are not interested in political purposes or even causes, but only in votes, money and their businesses

  • @leogama3422
    @leogama3422 Pƙed rokem +2

    Former president Dilma was never implicated in the Petrobras scandal... But, yes, her popularity sunk even more because of it.

  • @munkaccino
    @munkaccino Pƙed rokem +3

    why did you put this woman pronouncing the names as if they were in spanish?? we don't speak spanish, it's not "hosé", it's "JHOsé", if you're gonna go the extra mile to try and sound respectful at least go all the way, jesus

    • @agentemiojo4796
      @agentemiojo4796 Pƙed rokem

      The video is not for us, it's for then.
      We spell anime wrong? No, it just our definition of the word here in Brazil and the others country have their own definition and spelling

  • @ninskdesign
    @ninskdesign Pƙed rokem +158

    Missing Michael Brooks
 wish he was here to see this.

    • @mohamedelhag6354
      @mohamedelhag6354 Pƙed rokem +22

      That's exactly what I thought when I first opened this video. Left is Best!

    • @ingibingi2000
      @ingibingi2000 Pƙed rokem +14

      So many things he could have laughed at that we missed out on

    • @jalalasif3898
      @jalalasif3898 Pƙed rokem +15

      Makes me mad he had to pass away (rest in peace) while all the other bigots he regularly schooled are running around...

    • @XavierJAlexander
      @XavierJAlexander Pƙed rokem

      For real!

    • @tomer3344
      @tomer3344 Pƙed rokem +1

      Left is best!

  • @twilfits
    @twilfits Pƙed rokem +4

    Thanks for sharing ❀

  • @artbresolin
    @artbresolin Pƙed rokem +12

    I'm here to remind you that Lula wasn't deemed innocent, his case was only anulled by the Supreme Court

    • @paulodelima5705
      @paulodelima5705 Pƙed rokem +2

      So? This means he is innocent until proven guilty.

    • @pauloemilio9807
      @pauloemilio9807 Pƙed rokem

      Não, não é, aprenda a diferença entre nulidade processual e mérito.

    • @artbresolin
      @artbresolin Pƙed rokem

      @@pauloemilio9807 ces tem que aprender a diferenciar ladrĂŁo de candidato a presidĂȘncia

  • @wista_012
    @wista_012 Pƙed rokem +10

    CADE A TROPA DOS BRASILEIRO?
    👇👑

  • @neves5083
    @neves5083 Pƙed rokem +92

    Amazing video and very interesting, as a Brazilian I'm grateful to see content about our country.

    • @mariablanc6354
      @mariablanc6354 Pƙed rokem +5

      WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!

    • @paulobaceIar
      @paulobaceIar Pƙed rokem +10

      @@mariablanc6354 Joel Santana? É vocĂȘ?

    • @bartassef
      @bartassef Pƙed rokem +4

      @@paulobaceIar ri demais hahahaha

    • @fiattenebris
      @fiattenebris Pƙed rokem +4

      @@paulobaceIar nĂŁo basta passar vergonha em portuguĂȘs, o gado gosta de passar vergonha em inglĂȘs tambĂ©m. É a burrice dos minions Ă  mostra pro resto do mundo.

  • @CanalRD
    @CanalRD Pƙed rokem +5

    This video does not translate the reality. Search another one

  • @caioferreira146
    @caioferreira146 Pƙed rokem +26

    Muito bom ver como outro paĂ­s vĂȘ a nossa polĂ­tica aqui no Brasil.

    • @tropadagringa4947
      @tropadagringa4947 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      bom? bom mesmo e ver quem apoia esse ladrao se lascando com ele na presidencia

  • @Pedrov1996
    @Pedrov1996 Pƙed rokem +3

    You pronounced José Alencar wrong. It's not spanish, it's portugueses. Pay attention next time!

  • @las1147
    @las1147 Pƙed rokem +45

    Good video, but you cannot make a video like this without mentioning Sergio Moro, Operation Carwash and diving a little bit further in the unjust impeachment of Dilma. This really is a crucial component of understanding why Bolsonaro won in the first place.
    Final conclusions are really good though.

    • @nmb-u-
      @nmb-u- Pƙed rokem

      Not unjust, she broke the spending ceiling, breaking a law that made over 66% vote for her impeachment, it is all under the law, altho law is not always moral.

    • @las1147
      @las1147 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@nmb-u- The 'pedaladas fiscais' were not at all serious enough for an impeachment. The voting and the run-up to the impeachment showed that, they wanted to get rid of Dilma for the beginning and just looked for a legal excuse.

    • @naitor2594
      @naitor2594 Pƙed rokem +8

      the impeachment was completely justified, her goverment was terrible

    • @Pixelarter
      @Pixelarter Pƙed rokem +1

      @@naitor2594 It was not justified by the causes they presented and based the impeachment on. That was clear when all previous presidents did the same thing Dilma did and were not impeached nor prosecuted, and far more obvious after the next president (Temer) along with congress changed laws to not be a crime anymore, and subsequent Temer and Bolsonaro did the exact same thing as her without any consequence.
      It was a soft coup where they exploited an obscure legal breach just to force Dilma out, and amended the law right after so they could continue doing it without having the same fate.

    • @naitor2594
      @naitor2594 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@PixelarterIt was still legal, and she was literally hated by people from her own party due to her incompetence

  • @Ocxmusic
    @Ocxmusic Pƙed rokem +64

    “They’re all thieves, but at least this one gives back some of it.” 😂😂😂

    • @felipiih
      @felipiih Pƙed rokem +9

      The reality is sad

    • @angelinparadise7282
      @angelinparadise7282 Pƙed rokem +5

      Brazilians are very cynical when it comes to politics. Is sad, but real.

    • @laracosta3571
      @laracosta3571 Pƙed rokem

      It is something like that haha

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago Pƙed rokem

      Thats literally what people here in Portugal would say when years ago we had politicians fined or even jailed for corruption that would when they got out nonetheless get reelected time and time again

  • @DenisCandido-jn2eh
    @DenisCandido-jn2eh Pƙed rokem +8

    The Republic of Brazil is doomed to failure. I think that the words of the writer Erça de Queiroz will one day come true. "Brazil is Empire, it will be Republic and then it will be Empire again."

    • @tripalongbrasil
      @tripalongbrasil Pƙed rokem

      Deus te ouça! Jå deu essa republiqueta nojenta...

  • @marvincoloma5842
    @marvincoloma5842 Pƙed rokem +3

    Hi @Vox! I hope you could also make an analysis on Leni Robredo from the Philippines, moreso the recently concluded Philippine Elections.

  • @sazonnozas8916
    @sazonnozas8916 Pƙed rokem +15

    Good video, but you guys really took a side there. It would be better mentioning the whole 230 billion reais cut off from the healthcare investments, the PetrolĂŁo and MensalĂŁo. I hope Brazil will see the truth, and reelect our great president.

  • @yousseph777
    @yousseph777 Pƙed rokem +42

    Polarization, apophenia, and the Red Scare dominate many lives down here these days.
    " Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. "

  • @Mateus-tq8um
    @Mateus-tq8um Pƙed rokem +2

    A better tittle for this video would be "Brazil Lula da Silva explained wrong" lol hahaha

  • @viniciuscarvalhocoutinho8617

    fan fact, the majoria of the reporters are of left

  • @MrRobertofusion
    @MrRobertofusion Pƙed rokem +25

    Ah if you guys only knew what is really happening here in Brazil...

    • @truegemrn
      @truegemrn Pƙed rokem +2

      Yes. I was looking for this comment. God bless Brazil.

    • @Yeen_
      @Yeen_ Pƙed rokem +1

      What's happening? Please inform me.

    • @MrRobertofusion
      @MrRobertofusion Pƙed rokem +4

      @@Yeen_ If you really want to know, you're going to need time. I recommend the documentary "Teatro das Tesouras" (theather of scisors in english) by Brasil Paralelo, I don't know if it's available in your country.

    • @MultiFlamengooo
      @MultiFlamengooo Pƙed rokem

      @@MrRobertofusion đŸ˜„

  • @beakmann
    @beakmann Pƙed rokem +29

    My dear country.. forever stuck in this poverty loop :(

  • @beatigameplay5138
    @beatigameplay5138 Pƙed rokem +12

    Fun fact: The Bolsa FamĂ­lia program gave not the families all this money, it was a pretty low ammount, actually.

  • @etrehumain4374
    @etrehumain4374 Pƙed rokem +17

    Portuguese *isn't* Spanish: “JosĂ©â€ is pronounced /Zh/osĂ©, like the letter _s_ in _measure,_ not like the Spanish /H/osĂ©.

  • @Claytonbaptista
    @Claytonbaptista Pƙed rokem +6

    Why not say the truth?

  • @mattgraver3604
    @mattgraver3604 Pƙed rokem +27

    Strange how political developments in Brazil mirror those in South Africa

    • @SilkCutJaguarXJR-
      @SilkCutJaguarXJR- Pƙed rokem +2

      probaly a trend in later stage developing countries & regarding bolsonaro particularly because far-right ressurgences are a common phenomenon in a left-leaning government's crisis

    • @MrZiizie
      @MrZiizie Pƙed rokem

      Probably by US influence in both countries

    • @fgsaramago
      @fgsaramago Pƙed rokem

      Perhaps because Brazil is in South America??

    • @mattgraver3604
      @mattgraver3604 Pƙed rokem +12

      @@fgsaramago South Africa and South America are two different places bruv

    • @Henrique____
      @Henrique____ Pƙed rokem +12

      @@fgsaramago average american geography skills:

  • @jorgedaniel4277
    @jorgedaniel4277 Pƙed rokem +3

    Qualquer um dos lados são ruim. Resumo da opera😓

  • @Saissem
    @Saissem Pƙed rokem +3

    This is literally "Joe biden vs Trump" Brazil Version

    • @mostlysunny582
      @mostlysunny582 Pƙed rokem +1

      The both left leaning president rigged their elections. It's uncanny.

    • @beepboop1044
      @beepboop1044 Pƙed rokem

      Not at all

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 Pƙed rokem +35

    It's strange how almost every part of the word had an major, Overton-Window shift to the far right in the 2010s -- a trend that has managed to persist into the 2020s

    • @Brurgh
      @Brurgh Pƙed rokem +10

      This is likely due to the 2008 recession, people saw that the current governments weren't able to avoid it so they wanted a change in power.
      There was huge global shift in politics during the aftermath.
      When the public go from living comfortably to to the opposite they want change quickly and usually lean towards more extreme political views with strong voices & opinions.

    • @Pixelarter
      @Pixelarter Pƙed rokem

      The reason for that is Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon. They discovered how to successfully exploit social media and the internet by using big data and targeted campaigns to steer people's political views and sentiments.

  • @VirtualGobllim47
    @VirtualGobllim47 Pƙed rokem +104

    As a Left wing Brazilian I must correct:
    -Lula's condemnation was removed since his judge was working together with the prosecutor (hacked messages confirm this) and later joined into Bolsonaro's ministry.
    -Dilma's lost her job due to a coup because she didn't want to support corrupt politicians and that made the Congress stop supporting her.
    -the major corruption scandal during Lula's term was that José Dirceu (PT's president at the time) bought votes in congress from center right politicians.
    -those graphics are confusing and make little sense.
    -Misoginy was a big part of Dilma's impeachment/coup
    -Bolsonaro uses lies and has Bannon's support for social media
    -Bolsonaro filled the government and government positions with military and states that he won't accept the election results almost everyday.
    -He (Bolsonaro) also said "Vamos fuzilar a petralhada aqui do Acre em!" Which roughly translated to "lets shoot the PT's supporters (all in colloquial) here in Acre"
    - Lula is a Center left candidate and the far left reluctantly votes for him.
    -There was confirmed CIA interference in the 1964 and 2016 coups.
    -Those left-right spectrum graphs are awful

    • @uhohhotdog
      @uhohhotdog Pƙed rokem +5

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    • @VirtualGobllim47
      @VirtualGobllim47 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@MarcosPaulo-xs5em tu nĂŁo aceita nem a realidade, vai aceitar o que eu te falar? nĂŁo gasta meu tempo vai

    • @Tinky11221
      @Tinky11221 Pƙed rokem +7

      -Lula's condemnation was removed since his judge was working together with the prosecutor (hacked messages confirm this) and later joined into Bolsonaro's ministry.
      => Lula's sentence was annulled due to a technicality, because the jurisdiction should have been in bsb, otherwise he was sentenced to prison.
      -Dilma's lost her job due to a coup because she didn't want to support corrupt politicians and that made the Congress stop supporting her.
      -Misoginy was a big part of Dilma's impeachment/coup
      => Dilma was an incompetent politician who didn't get along with anybody, she alienated herself, this wasn't due to her being a woman, but a person of a very difficult character, she was truly atrocious to work with. Plus, the impeachment was legally sound, the difference is that it normally wouldn't pass but it did because she lost all her support, both politically(due to the aforementioned alienation she herself did) and popularly. People have too short memory, we went through our WORST economic period in decades at the time due to her, and Lula's, policy, and back then we didn't have any pandemic or world crisis to blame, on the contrary, economies around the world were booming while we were broke, the people wanted her out, this wouldn't have happened if we had been well. In addition we had the biggest corruption scandal in our history and also in the world history, so it certainly didn't help, specially when it involved state companies like Petrobras. So without political or public support she was impeached.
      Granted, although extremely incompetent I don't think she was corrupt, I've just heard nightmarish stories surrounding her but she indeed seems to have integrity, which can't be said about Lula, whom had many qualities but is certainly very crooked and its a delusion to think otherwise.
      Other things mentioned I agree with but those were my biggest peeves, we should look both sides critically.

    • @guto5285
      @guto5285 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Tinky11221 Sad that a lot american people will see her text and will just assume that is true

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  • @calliebennett7261
    @calliebennett7261 Pƙed rokem +16

    THE PRONUNCATION IS KILLING ME

  • @blackbird163
    @blackbird163 Pƙed rokem

    This helps me understand better other countries politics and leaders thank u