Pyzel "Red Tiger" Surfboard Review Ep 134
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2023
- In this episode, Noel Salas reviews the "Red Tiger," which is John John's model, by Pyzel Surfboards. Noel rides his custom 5'6" high performance board with XTR10 foam with epoxy resin at 25.7 liters. He pairs it with signature Neutral Thruster fins, a Pivot thruster set up, but then a Pivot Twin + Trailer brought the board to a whole other level in the pool and ocean. He claims it is a solid performance board in the pool. The Red Tiger has a flat deck, its wide point a little back from center, and tapered rail keeps it sensitive and promotes pocket surfing. Noel rides a stock 5'7" XL Dims Red Tiger at 26.7 liters in PU Poly in the ocean and changes out the fins from a Raked template to a Neutral template to loosen up the board. In addition, Noel teams up with Ian "Wooly" Macpherson from Wooly TV in West Australia where he gives his take on the Red Tiger coming in at 6'2 and 34.2 liters. Ian says it works well in some larger, shoulder-high waves, it projects well into the lip, and it held the rail after he set his back foot further back on the pad. Ian really begins ripping on the Red Tiger. Then, TJ from Pyzel compares the Red Tiger to the Phantom in the Pyzel line up. The Red Tiger has less rocker, more dramatic bottom contours and pivots faster than the Phantom in his opinion. Finally, Noel says the Red Tiger needs a good, punchy wave to really shine, but says if you're looking for a surfboard that loves to carve and bridges the gap between a high-performance short board and daily driver, the Red Tiger falls right in line. Enjoy!
Where to Buy Boards:
Pyzel Surfboards: www.pyzelsurfboards.com/index...
XTR Surfboards: www.xtrepoxytech.com/pages/pyzel
Surf Station:
www.surfstationstore.com/coll...
Surf N' Show Fins:
surfnshow.com/collections/fins-1
Noel's Height 5'9" (175.26cm) Weight 170lbs (77.11kg)
Noel's Boards:
Custom PU/Poly: 5'7" x 19 x 2.31 (26L)
Stock XL PU/Poly : 5'7" 19 1/8 x 2 5/16 (26.70L)
XTR10/Epoxy: 5'6" x 19 x 2.26 (25.7L)
Asa's Height 5'10" (177.80cm) Weight 165lbs (74.84kg)
XTR10/Epoxy: 5'6" x 19 x 2.26 (25.7L)
Ian Wooly Height:: 6'1" (187cm) Weight 195lbs (88kg)
Board DIMS: 6'2" x 19.75. x 2.63 (34.2L)
TJ's Height 5'6" (167.64) Weight 155lbs (70.30)
Board DIMS: 5'7" x 18.63 x 2.31 (26L) - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Thanks Noel for having Ian on! He gives us big guys great feedback with your knowledge! Great show! 👏
Being that Woody is my exact height/weight, it was a cool addition to your review. Thanks for the tips on the fins, good reminder to change up fins to experiment!
Nice to see Wooly has made the big time ,he does really good reviews as well.
I bought a Red Tiger --it feels a lot like an CI OG Flyer to me, but has a bit more squirt/acceleration through turns. I used Futures Blackstick when small and AM2s when head high+..Awesome board, my new daily driver.
Great post... shanks for sharing!
Thanks for having me 🤙
Best collab ever
The pleasure was ours Ian!! You are ripping on the Red Tiger
Yewwwwwww Wooly 🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Looked absolutely mental on that board mate!! Best board i’ve seen on your feet i reckon!!
@woolyTV Any reason you chose the 6'2.? I seen you say you usually ride a 6'1. Was it just to get the 34L? Or do you think the slightly longer rail suits that board better?
Great review and Collab. Everyone ripping!! 🤙
Thank you for excelent videos Noel. In 2019 you help me get the Sampler, and has been the best choice since that time. Keep the great work! Cheers from Rio Grand do Sul, South of Brazil!
Cheers!!!
was waiting for this review! Thanks again Noel!
Totally right regarding changing out fins on a board - can totally change a board performs and feels.
Was great to see wooly in the review and how it works in a bigger size for a bigger guy. Not all boards scale up and down as well in terms of maintaining the same characteristics as despite the change in volume and dims of rider the waves don’t scale up or down to match.
Cheers... glad you liked Wooly's footage and comments.
Ps I’m loving the Cali twin
Fair play, always check Wolly's reviews and never saw him surf this good. Board looks rad. Ace colab, keep it coming 👌🏼
Great overview with different riders. Would be interested on your comparison with the Pyzalien 2 which you surf really well.
So good. Thanks Noel. My style of board for sure.
Yewww
Always love these reviews. But especially loved seeing Noel have a romantic evening by the water with his friend!
Hi Noal I brought a red tiger a week ago and had 2 surfs on it so far, feels awesome so far, currently using Klohe Andino large fins and would like your thoughts on using the MRs + trailor, also following Wooli 👍
Cheers Mark
Newcastle Australia
TJ is da guy! Board looks good on everyone. I think it looks similar to an SKX with the wide point forward and pulled in to a wide squash tail.
Thanks a lot for the amazing review. Liked the comparaison part with the phantom but whats ur personal take on it ? Did u prefer the phantom or the red tiger as a daily driver?
Thank you Noel. Yeah... certainly some ppl think that the details you speak of hardly matter. Well... All those seemingly little things , Ad up to a "MAGIC" Board, or. Just "Ok" & Who wants... " Yeah.. it's OK " Once you have a board that does what you want, @ the speed of thaught, You CAN'T go back !!
Noel, you’re the most experienced and informed surfing channel. Your reviews are always the most honest and thorough. I love the deep knowledge you have on fin setup. You’re awesome man! I gotta head down to trestles and ride there. I’m normally at Salt Creek. Hey quick question. I know you reviewed the FRK a while back. Any plans to review the new Plus version of the FRK? I’m curious to see how it stacks up against the Pyzalien 2 since that seems to be the benchmark right now on what a performance daily driver should be. Glad to see you making an excellent recovery. Don’t ever stop riding man. See you out on the water! God Bless.
Cheers for the kind words!! The OG FRK was good. The new one looks good too but I really have no interest in riding the Squash tail version in the surf spots I surf. Too much rocker for the point breaks and Waco.
I am sure it would be fun in some beach break but I’m really not digging typical HPSB’s. They take a lot of work to shred… they typically don’t have a lot of glide so you gotta keep them moving.
You’re right about that. If you have to work too hard to get a decent ride then you’re not really having fun, and that’s what its all about right. I’m thinking about getting onto my first Pyzel. I’m Intermediate skill level, 6’0 170-175 lbs. What do you think about a Phantom 6’1” at 34.4L ?
@@kennethfriedl3428 Sounds hood…here are some volume ranges to think about for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert 28-30L
Advanced 30-32l
Intermediate 33-35L
🤙🏼
Hey Noel! Have you tried the Pyzel Highline model? If you have just wkndering your thoughts on it over the phantom model. Cheers
Great review!! I have a happy everyday which I really like (loose and fast), but its a spinetek light glassing and gets difficult to handle in slightly choppier/bigger conditions. Would u recommend the RedT or Pyzalien2 to sit beside my beloved H.E.D.
I personally like the P2 better.
Love the colab! … really think a future colab with #ThomyeSurfs would be amazing for the audience.
Red Tiger vs Pyzalien 2? Which one and why?
I love my PyzAlien 2 but just broke it and need to order another daily driver. Seems like you prefer the PyzAlien 2 to the Red Tiger so I'm going to stick with that, but I'm curious for your take on the XTR 10 foam versus Pyzel's epoxy. Have you ridden the PyzAlien 2 in XTR 10? When is the full XTR 10 review coming out?
Thanks for another great episode!
The P2 in XTR10 will go mental.
The XTR10 episode will drop in August
Hey Noel, Great review. I got a Pyzelien II after seeing your review and loved it. Best board I have ever ridden. I did not like the White Tiger as much. As an everyday driver how would you compare the Pyzelien II to the Red Tiger?
Hey! What did you not like about the white tiger and what were the conditions?
@@Austindgaff Road mine about 10 times. I live in North County San Diego. Waves are fun. Most days are ideal for a daily driver. I had a few amazing rides on the board but did had average to above average speed down the line and the tail did not release a lot. Just look at Noels waves and compare the White Tiger to the AstroPop or Gremlin. He looks way better on the two other boards in my opinion. It did stick in the pocket really well. There were some good qualities of it
the P2 is looser and more versatile for me. It seems to have a little more rocker and that loosens up the board a bit more. I prefer the P2... it has a better wave range and still fun in the smaller surf. The RT might carry a little more down the line speed though.
Hey Noel, nice work with all your reviews! I was looking forward to trying this board, now I’m not so sure…
I don’t mean to critique your analyses, but the waves you surfed this board in the ocean, compared to the phantom are miles apart & I feel that if you had surfed this board in better waves, then you might have drawn a different conclusion. It looks like the board needs a more lined up wave, like a point break for it to really shine…
Thoughts?
No doubt the waves were better for the Phantom. I think the Red Tiger need a wave with some push for sure. It will go good in point breaks and Beachies… but not sure it carries the speed in 1-3’ mushy waves with its low rocker. I personally like the Gremlin, Whit Tiger, and Astro POP better for 1-3’ mushy waves. Overall the Red Tiger is pretty good as a Thruster but it was really fun with a Twin + Trailer in the pool and the point breaks I put it in
Was waiting long time for this review. I have the white tiger for small days, and i love riding my christenson lane splitter 5.8 on a daily basis in bali. I love the christenson op1 5.10 when i get out of the reef and even for weaker days or weaaker reef waves. Had an eye on the red tiger xl (im 82 kg and 183cm) to complete the quiver 5.11 i had the op2 christenson for a while but i find it too rockery.
And love the op4 for up to 6+- feet days. I also have the ci 2pro in 6.2 (was lucky to order one of the demo models before stab in the dark comp) for bigger days and and the pyzel ghost 6.3 when it gets 8+
Viewing the review i dont think the red tiger will be a good choice as a daily driver with a bit of performance on it im afraid of more than one video with this “need to get used to the board” feeling, specially that flat long section.
A friend switched me one board for the holy toledo 2 with 30.8 lites and live it ( but volume wise it shortens my sessions because i get tired sooner)
@noel please review some christenson boards specially op1 i think for small days would be a blast in california and im . Courious how the lane splitter will perform out from bali.
Please help me out a little here man! Looking to put an order in for a custom but after watching this I have no idea what litre size to go for now! I’m 6ft pushing 6ft 1 I’m looking for a similar comparison to your custom 5’6 with the trailer fins! But obviously I’m taller and probably weigh a bit more too!
How much do you weigh and what’s the dims on your favorite daily driver or HPSB
Hi Noel, what do you prefer between the Red Tiger and the Inferno 72? They look pretty similar to me. Thanks 🙏
I like the I72 better. It’s more responsive and surfs the pocket better too
Id be really interested to see how much worse your surfing gets if you increase the volume step by step. So i can see how much performance im missing out on by riding a high volume board. Excellent video thanks!
We need a answer :D
Do you prefer the red tiger or the shadow? I'm looking for a new hpsb and I love my gremlin so I figure I stick with pyzel for the bigger stuff too
Shadow for bigger steeper waves
@surfnshowreviews7777 right on thanks 🤙🏽
How this board comper the ci
happy every day please?
Thanks champ
Very similar… I found the Happy Everyday to be looser and a little more fun in smaller waves.
The RT might carry a little more down the line speed.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 you are the best
Are you planning on doing another review for the happy everyday? Would love to hear your thoughts on it now that you’ve ridden it. How does it compare to the inferno 72? Is it a favorite amongst the CI HPSB line up?
Great review. How would you compare this board to the Pyzalien?
Check out the star rating on our website and you can compare both boards. Surfnshow.com
love Wooly reviews. Collab with Craig next? :)
Definitely looked better with the twin plus trailer.
Hey Noel I’ve asked you about fins for my slater No Brainer before I’m try to decide between your fins and the nvs fins. I have the super quads in they seemed to hold great in head high plus for a stable which helped my confidence on take off but I want it to be a little looser on smaller days. Should I get your quad set up, ordering your 5 fins or do you I should use a 2 +1 one? I have the Rasta 2+1 haven’t used them yet cause I thought your pivot quads would work better. I’ve heard good things about nvs and they’re a little less money which helps. The. There’s Kelly’s new fins. So I’m confused on what to get. Also I’m going to the American dream mall wave pool in north NJ( I think that’s what it’s called). That doesn’t look like the best wave pool, and looks like a really quick wave requiring a super face pop up. What do you think I should get for the money. Thanks again been watching your videos since the beginning thanks so much.
Try the Rasta Twin + Trailer if you have them already.
My 5 fin set is next level… they go good in every board I put them in.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 hey thanks Noel. What do you think of the nvs fins? I know you’ve used them in some of your reviews. I was gonna try to save some money and get those but ( I know it’s your product but I trust that you’re honest) I was thinking maybe just forget about the nvs and just go for your 5 fin for the quad and thruster option. Now I’m talking about the No Brainer, your 5 fins would be a pivot type fin right?
@@surfnshowreviews7777 one other quick question Noel, do you sell two different quad sets? Which one if there are two or if I’m reading it wrong should I get?
@@scottcuttre9705 I only have 1 Quad set. You can buy them in my 5 fin set or just buy my Quad Rears separately.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 got it Noel thanks
Noel, I have been looking into Step ups lately and thought it would be epic if you could do some reviews on step ups in large waves.
You think you’d be open to doing some reviews in PR, Hawaii, Portugal, Peru or something places with large waves to review some step ups?
No real interest for me to review step ups or even surf bigger waves.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I guess it would even be beneficial to see how HPSBs and some of the more common board models hold up once it gets a little bigger. Maybe like double overhead or something. I hear you though. You do you!
Hi Noel. Hope that you are well. When will you be doing your 2023 favorites vid?
Around Black Friday.. November
Wow Wooly rips. I’m a bigger dude and I just got a 6’2” in XTR, but it’s XTR 5, how do rate it against the 10?
Ask the folks at XTR
Thank you, apparently it’s XTR 10. As an aside , the board feels GREAT In Oceanside with twin+trailer.
Hey noel, thanks for all the awesome reviews, has helped my decision making for sure. Question, I know they are different family of boards and all but i've been thinking about getting the red tiger but I already have a mini ghost that I love. I know they can handle basically the same type of waves so should I? Also, I really want the white tiger as my next groveler, had the gremlin but this one seems more fun for smaller days? Thanks bro
To much overlap between the Mini Ghost and Red Tiger. I personally like the MG better.
White Tiger is so fun… get it in the new XTR 10 foam. It’s amazing. Tell the folks at XTR I sent you… they will get it dialed for your weight.
Brother, thank you for the input, decision is made, just gonna keep on loving the MG and next board will be the WT. Thank you and take care! @@surfnshowreviews7777
Wooly was ripping!
Would you choose….Happy everyday or the Red Tiger in Florida surf, and I’m about your same dims.
Happy Everyday
Lol at wooly’s subtitles
good surf🎉
Did you ever end up trying out Pyzel's Wildcat?
No sorry… I tried to get one. The folks at Pyzel said no
Pyzel red tiger or al merrick dumpster diver 2? Main differences?
@@teamcamaleon Still testing DD2 at the moment.
Hi Noel! When a review of Lost “Stub 3.0”?!
Not sure yet
Comparing the red tiger/white tiger pair vs the ghost family of boards, the new tiger boards seem slower and stiffer. Just to my eye at least.. looks like surfing with a handbrake on. Gremlin/phantom/shadow seem more rippable
I personally like the Gremlin/Phantom Mini Ghost models better. Looser and easier to shred
@@surfnshowreviews7777 you’re definitely thinking right though in trying different fin setups until you get the feeling right. Probably the biggest factor with Pyzel’s boards is finding the fins to match, can make or break the board 🤙
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
In my opinion John surfs a lot better on the shadow as apposed to this
Give us more wooly. Everything the man said resonated with my first red tiger session. -aj_gaf