The WORST Hero Group! Doctor Strange Illuminati Explained
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#doctorstrange #DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness #marvel - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Is it just me, or is it whenever Namor goes, "Nah, bruh. That's a horrible idea." he is always right?
HE is usually aginst the stuff that souns stupid lol.
He’s been a literal king for like... a hundred years or so, give or take a century. I feel like he’d have developed some decent decision making skills in that time.
Nah. Marvel even made What If? stories where their plans succeeded because they weren't interrupted by unexpected events like a wormhole in space.
Lol
@@kourtneyr.scruggs0988
Lmao, yeah that definitely would do the trick, being a Monarch for so long you just understand the trends in human nature, politics, etc
Funny that out of all the members of the Marvel's Illuminati, Namor is the most rational.
T'challa left first tho
@@LuffyBlack And good on him to do it
@@LuffyBlack T'Challa saw, and knew, it wouldn't work. He was right. It was only because of the incursions he got them back together again.
@@CoolSuperBear And that’s a fact.
I think Namor saw himself in the Hulks position, Hulk was seen as a “force of nature” by them, not just a friend or a person, a “thing” they were afraid of. So if Namor agreed that something needed to be done about Hulk, what about HIM having control over the seas??- literally a portion of the earth?
Will the next “secret meeting” be about HIM?🤔
Bad decision making so call hero group
Called*
@@ionelpetrea7594did you actually correct someone from a year ago ?
@spinningstuff74 that was so unnecessary. 🤣
He corrected someone from a year ago and yet he did it incorrectly 😂
Just like two corrections I have:
1.) Mr Fantastic using "I" statements isn't cause of individuality it's because of the Gems power over someone and the fact they make you omnipotent that's causing him to be like that. It's even proven later when he almost refuses to give up the gauntlet
2.) They didn't just send Hulk into space their plan was to send him to a peaceful lush uninhabited world but a wormhole opened up and shat him out on Sakaar
Also not really a correction but just to add that people seem to think it's just hulk being mad during WWH but it's both Banner and Hulk that are pissed
On another note, a wormhole opened up outta nowhere on the Watchers watch that sent hulk to sakaar...idk bout what you think but I sense sus written all over that
But here's the thing Hulk was happy there, it's just the ship blew up destroying everything.
@@bigkirbyhj666 which turned out to not actually be their fault.
@@hc-xc7si yeah and thats where ghamabomb hulk came into play.
Sorry, but it's actually a million. The Sentry has the power of a million exploding suns. Which is (for those who may not know) VERY FREAKING POWERFUL.
What suns? There are about 6 or 7 varieties
@@helderalmeida2790 Yellow stars. Or white dwarfs. Or neutron?
Nah, just yellow.
Add beasts, panther, Capt,
I think it’s stated that was just a big amount of power that Sentry made up.
@@helderalmeida2790 the sun is unique. Its the name given To our star so there is only one sun . A not so big, kinda small yellow star (wich is really white, see the video of neil degrass tyson about it)
I still pretty salty they didn't do planet hulk. Like that's one of the greatest stories I ever read . You could really feel hulks pain
Hulk has been nerfed in the MCU because Universal Pictures owns The Hulk, similar to how Sony owns spiderman. So they don’t want to make the Hulk essential to the MCU…and then lose the rights to use the character, so for THIS reason, they keep him “nerfed” because making him important is too risky.
@@KingRemoji oh I didn't know that marvel didn't have the rights to hulk still
@@deshardmyles86
The agreement they came to is that Marvel/Disney can do whatever they want with the character BUT Universal would have final say over solo movies. So what Marvel decided to do to circumvent this is to no longer do any solo Hulk movies. Which is why Hulk co-starred in Thor 3, and will co-star again in She-Hulk, but not his own movie.
So since Marvel is being “cute” Universal gave the streaming rights for the “incredible hulk” movie to HBO MAX instead of Disney.
@@KingRemoji bruh these movies are done for
Half of the Illuminati are some of Hulk's oldest friends, although Namor is the only one that acts like it. The original Defenders (add Silver Surfer).
this is one of those things where Iron Man was CORRECT but Namor was right.
26:30
Medusa wasn’t called because of the skrull thing, that was resolved. She was called because Black Bolt was presumed dead following the War of Kings and she had assumed responsibility for his affairs, like him being the leader of the Kree, King of Attilan, and a member of the Illuminati. Great video btw!
How is this a good video💀💀💀💀💀
Interestingly, in an alternate universe (Earth-976) there exists a successful version of The Illuminati. In "Dark Reign: Fantastic Four" issue 3, the group members are Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Doom, Magneto, Black Bolt, and Namor. They successfully managed to pass and implement both the Superhuman Registration Act and the Initiative program peacefully. The successful and peaceful passage and implementation of these measures brings about world peace. It seems like having Dr. Doom and Magneto in the group (instead of Dr. Strange and Professor X) made the difference. I wish they'd make a whole comic about this version of The Illuminati. I'd like to see how they managed to succeed, where the Illuminati of this universe (Earth-616) failed.
Magneto probably modified the registration act or just made them liable if the info got leaked. It's not ideal but a large problem with the registration act was the fact that the mutant info list was being given to genocidal idiots.
Tony: _"I am Ironman, of The Avengers." 🤖_
Prof. X: _"I am Professor Charles Xavier, representing for mutantkind."_ 👨🦼
Dr. Strange: _"I am Doctor Stephen Strange - Sorcerer Supreme & Master of the Mystic Arts." 🧙🏻✨️_
Namor: _"I am Prince Namor, Ruler of Atlantis." 🌊🧜🏻♂️_
Mr. Fantastic: _"And I am Doctor Reed Richards, of The Fantastic Four." 4️⃣_
Black Bolt: _"🤐" 🤫_
“Sent daredevil to look into the case” hahaha that was so good. 😭💀
More harm than good? Well they certainly are responsible for a ridiculous amount of problems. It's impossible to know though what sort of problems would have come about if they hadn't taken such actions.
WHAT! The Beyonder is a Inhuman AND a mutant! Holy s#@%!
Namor represents Anti Heroes too. Pretty appropriate considering he is the first
For as much bad they illuminatli did, They made up with it in the Incursions.
That would break lesser men facing all those threats with all of them playing a part in saving 616 till the end.
Doom is MVP but frankly was lucky the Beyonders power bonded to him.
Only reason they didnt mess up the incursions is because black panther finally chose to join them
@@unkown981 - --- ---
IIRC, Cap, a better example of the common man, was at there at the first, but objected to the overreach, before Prof X wiped his memory of that meeting. Iron Man probably represents the power weilded by the USA's military industrial complex. Cap was empwered by the MICi, but he was the power of a free man at the height of human perfection. Ironically, he becomes what Hitler dreamed the Aryans could become: Nietzsche's Ubermench.
This group seems like all it does is make things worse.
Well, what were they supposed to do? Just let two entire universes die?
@@dreamwalker2865 Well no, but everything I've heard about them makes them sound really bad at their job.
Like Zelda in OoT
Has Link pull the sword and damns her kingdom for 7 years
5:25 the fact that Namor of all people opposes the idea of sending hulk away is beyond strange. Cuz you’d think he’d agree cuz of the harm Hulk would be beneficial to his people but wow I’m genuinely surprised he opposed. Him a power hungry king who wants to take over the surface world.
I thinks Namor saw himself in Hulk's place.
If these heroes find it so easy to get rid of their own friend, how long until he's next?
He is saying how would you send your friend away? So none of them are real friends
Who does Spider-Man think is the strongest? Sentry? Silver Surfer? Gladiator? Who?
Morbious
The Wall, brother!
@@makeitthrough_ Absolutely
@@makeitthrough_You're forgetting Big Wheel
It's really never a good idea to put the most paranoid ppl in a group
I LOVED when morbius showed up in Doctor Strange 2
It’s morbin time
When tf did he show up I just watched it ion remember him
@@plumberdumper9820 SPOILERS FOR DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MORBNESS
It's right after Scarlet Witch murderized all of the Illuminati. Remember? Wanda magicked away Blackbolts mouth and turned Mister Fantastic into spaghetti. After that she had a trailer park cat fight with Peggy and tried to call the authorities for Captain Marvel over her crime of illuminating while black. Right about then Morbius showed up out of nowhere and said "Wanda, I will not tolerate your abuse of the authorities' prejudice against the African Americans and other minorities". I don't know how you missed it. Maybe you left for a bathroom break.
@@plumberdumper9820 when he morbed all over strange. How could you miss it?
@@plumberdumper9820 He was in the movie. It was Morbin time!
They are literally villains. It doesn’t matter if they are made up of heroes. They perform only bad deeds to achieve good goals. That is what villains do.
Uhm, I’m pretty sure villains perform bad deeds for bad goals
@@joaquimgianini1234 that’s more like a super villain.
more like anti-villains
Every villain thinks that what they’re doing is for the hood of whatever cause they’re championing. Even if it’s chaos or some random thing. The Illuminati are villains.
this is just incorrect lol. think before typing.
Explains why they were so useless in Multiverse of Madness. Cause they weren't the good guys.
6:06 when the Greek pantheon Atlantian agrees with T'challa [his rival] you know, you versauen.
If you played Call of Duty Zombies WaW, Black Ops 1, 2, 3, and 4 then you know it's the same energy as Marvel's Illuminati
What do you mean by that? You mean unintentionally making everything worse?
The saying goes we did the wrong things for the right reasons but unintentionally the consequences of such actions were costly and many innocent ppl had to suffer cause of it
@@Ton8o Sometimes the worst mistakes happen with the best intentions!
"Iffen yuh plade Cowwa Doodie,"
😂
I was a bit disappointed with the MCU depiction of the Illuminati, but oh well, I hope we get an updated version later on
Good is amazing but man some of the things they have decided was dark but had to be done.
Great great great summary!
After the MCU introduces the fantastic 4, x men, Atlantans and inhumans this can be a great storyline to explore and the Kree and Skrulls have already been introduced in Captain Marvel. They make for prime intergalactic threat that can span multiple heroes and groups
Namor sounds like he is smarter than the rest combined realising how dumb a lot of those things are
Tldr ver.; rather than solving world hunger or poverty they prefer to throw one of the most powerful being to another planet
If sentry has the power of a million exploding suns, him almost destroying Manhattan was nothing compared to his full potential. If our sun were to go supernova it would decimate everything in the solar system and even affect planets on other stars 100 light years away. Sentry could do that with a millionth of his power.
I never liked this team in the Dark Reign era. The Cabal? Yes!
The Iron Man represents the common folk? LMFAO
Ah yes the common millionaire
I mean more like someone who actually has no super power, thats the commonfolk in this context
made his money/life through the power of his own brain. like any man can do. you're embarrassing yourself.
I think Dcs version of the illuminati would comprise of batman, lex Luther, Dr fate, Orion and a member of the guardians
It would probably be
Batman
Chief Niles Caulder
Dr.Fate
Aqua man
Green Lanern
Orion
John Constantine
Something along these lines but in all seriousness the justice league is so big DC doesn’t need an Illuminati
They kinda have one, it's a council of god like beings from the universe. That said, they aren't a real council like the illuminati though
20:19 thats what she said
One of the few Bendis ideas/stories that I liked through & through; besides Ultimate Spidey
Not sure if I missed it but I thought the illuminati were revealed during ww hulk? Then during the skrull invasion cap doesn't know. What happened?
Stark super genius analysis mansplaing how it’s all gonna go down is just brilliant writing. And that bit about Spider-Man being the one the government makes an example of is so spot on it hurts. That is definitely how it would play out because even within the Marvel universe, Spider-Man is the most recognizable hero. People actually see him more because he’s a street level hero. They’d see him every day. He’d be the *PERFECT* sacrificial lamb to slaughter in front of the masses to prove yourself and political point.
Also, like they said, if they support the SRA, then wat happens to the Illuminati members?
Tony didn’t think it all the way through
Even if Tony said “don’t worry, I’ll protect u guys!”- I wouldn’t have trusted him with all this power at this point. In terms of political power, He was basically the most powerful man on Earth, minus the president.
EXACTLY! You hit the 🎯, with THAT ⬆️ one. I believe Tony was right, and the "Illumined Ones" shoulda listened to him from the word, "go"--- and consolidated the Avengers, FF, X-Men, Atlanteans, Et cetera.
In terms of powers and influence these 7 are basically justice league of Marvel
They did a lot I missed some of it. Why does the Watcher look like the Kingpin in a cape?🤔
Be-cause-of-his _WEIGHT_
I enjoy BMB's stories, but I always forget how much he ignores established Marvel history to do what he wants. The Infinity Gems don't call out to each other. A bunch of Elders held meetings together, several of them with gems, and none of them noticed it. Thanos had to contemplate in the Well of Reality to find them all. Not only that, but Thanos, AFTER wielding the Gauntlet, wasn't able to use the Reality Gem without the others to control it. Finally, the 'Infinity Gauntlet' doesn't do a darned thing, except make a convenient way to hold the gems.
I always wonder why Stark isn't spending life in prison about now. While you can't hold him legally responsible for things like invading the Skrull Empire and helping them determine how to pull off the Secret invasion, but he's committed crimes from Perjury to Congress to Espionage, Treason, acts of war, and Capitol Murder (multiple counts).
What all marvel storylines did this video cover? Just wondering so I can read them myself
Ayyyy didn't get my notifs earlierrr
I love that theirs an Encyclopedia Britannica thing about the Illuminati on this video because CZcams thinks this is a conspiracy theory video lmao, CZcams is a wack website
Love these videos
The Illuminati is a group of Oligarchs who try to rule the actions of superheroes and fail enormously?
Who could have guessed. :D
I blasted put laughing BRUH
“StAnGE SmAsH”
Wtf was that?! 🤣
I'm sorry, but Iron Man represents the common man? Dude is a one percenter.
Who did Mr. Fantastic sacrifice to get the Soul Stone? Do we want to know?
The soul stone sacrifice is a movie thing
that only applies to the MCU to nerf whoever uses it
in the comics, you can casually hijack a space ship and travel through the cosmos and there you go
Wait, where is this comic strip taken from? Cos that Professor X is a dead ringer for Patrick Stewart 😀
Oh Skroll ... I thought he said squirrel
Is this all in Illuminati 1 comics? Or do I have to buy another comics just to read it all?
No representation for the Eternals.
Eternals kinda blow mcnuggets.
But would they have cared?
Rich people group.
Kenny McCormick isn't allowed to join because he's poor.
As an SP fan, that made me wheeze a bit
"Iron Man is analog for common man."
Billionaire play-boy superhero with firepower of a small country represents common people?
Why do the colors keep changing for the gems?
Who should we invite to this super secret super important think tank? How about a guy who if he speaks could destroy us all! Guess they aren’t as smart as they think they are…
I was cheering for Hulk during the whole World War Saga. Tony and Reed should've gotten a lot more punishment. A lot more.
Wrong sentry din't unleash his full strength he just fought hulk on the hulk's terms that is fist fighting.
Mr fantastic leader of the Illuminati implants Beast with a Chip
They think they're smarter than everyone else. But pissing off The Hulk is very stupid.
Sure you can certainly call whatever happened in multiverse of madness a debut.
You would be wrong but you can call it that.
I don't know why but the Illuminati remind me of the light from young justice
Namor knew the hulk would come back to bite them in the ass😊
Who is disappointed about the illuminati in MOM
Mommy?
I'm more of a DC guy than Marvel, so I didn't know much about the illuminati, but it was sooo disappointing. The only sensible member was Charles. But collectively their decision making was sooo irrational.
That part was just filler and fanservice. They could have made the exposition in any other way...
Mr.F: black bolt can beat you in one punch, man.
Wanda: what punch?
Black bolt: *fucking dies*
the whole movie was trash
Why namor? And i don't even know who is black bolt.
Wait.
Black bolt took out a spaceship? A dude who's power is sound waves can do that in space?
Im gonna take that as him being obnoxiously powerful and can make sound travel through a vacuum instead of a just silly writing mistake
Sure it's not the bilderberg group ?🤔
I love how the Tolkien evil anti hero team mate was the guy who had issues with their plans morality. Namor is pretty ends justify the means if he thinks your plan really crosses some lines or its moronic and going to blow up in your face big time
Did you just pronounce the t in debut?
Black Bolt was a Skrull. That's why Hulk beat him.
It’s crazy how so many smart people can be in one room and do some of the dumbest 💩 in Marvel history 🤦♂️
This group is terrible lol
That illuminati group breaks up more than me with my toxic GF lol
Sure you are right :)
expecting anything good from post-endgame marvel is a fool's errand
In the new Dr Strange movie, they did a poor job of Black Bolt. He is defeated so easily, and he’s out of the movie within 10mins of seeing him.
@@CoolSuperBear Reed was a dumbass.
On the other hand it being because Reed screwed up seems very on brand for Richards.
"Smartest" man in the room: Here is black bolt, the strongest member of our team, who weakness is if you silence him.
Wanda: K.
@@Quetzalcoatlus100 for supposedly such a genius it seems like a lot of the big problems that happen in marvel start wirh; Reed did something stupid
@@ParanormalEncyclopedia True. Though in this instance it's not his desire for knowledge that is to blame.
Unnecessary exposition to Wanda in how to defeat blackbolt for no reason whatsoever unless he actually wanted blackbolt to die.
It's a case of a thing needing to happen thus a chess piece, reed in this instance playing his part to get another piece off the table.
Also this is also the same battle with captain marvel who just dies to a falling statue.
You sound like the guy from The Roundtable
Heard a couple of yawns lol
For me they are the best team
Yo bro your voice made this video interesting lol
So interesting
Blue Marvel whooped Sentry’s butt in 60 seconds
Daybute?
Ironman:"I'm a futurist! So let me tell you what is gonna happen, some 'person' will make a mistake and get a lot of people hurt trying to help, something NONE OF US IN THIS ROOM have eeeeever done before! Huh? Ignore the dozens of times my tech was stolen or given away and did that to normal civilians or your people Xavier. Then the news will see and play it over and over again, and some (Iron-)man may see that and go 'Let's make an example out of some big hero like Spider-man so I can get some clout!' and force him to unmask live on tv, maybe get his aunt killed, ruin his life and marriage by having him sell it to the devil to save his dying elderly aunt, and everyone is going to hate me but at least I'll win in the end... That's the future Namor!"
Namor:".. I'm out."
Dr. Strange:"Ya no, that's an awful idea Tony, I'm leaving too and never call me again."
Reed:"I thought it was a great idea, especially because it will make my wife hate me even more for the rest of our lives...I'm the smartest man in the world you know."
I can't believe the people who wrote that comic basically had Tony outline the worse case event that could happen if they DIDN'T do his plan, even specifically mentioning Spider-man in it getting unmasked, only for him to later be the person enacting that worse case event himself for the exact same reasons he said were bad.
The illuminate has been and always will be the shittiest super hero group ever, of all time.
I want a movie on sentry but done right. I want marvel to show Dc how to represent a superman like character
Fiege would just fuck it up with boring filmmaking and formulaic nonsense
What? Man Of Steel was a great movie, all yall focus on is him killing Zod. Not to mention the comics, animation, video games, and the best superhero live action show of all time Smallville.
@@Sheffdawg2305 man of steel is awful because of the pacing and screenwriting. Zod getting killed is at the bottom of the list of why it’s terrible. It gets worse everytime I watch it
@@Sheffdawg2305 man of steel was a good movie and this coming from a marvel fan
@@joeykorleone6161 naw bruh it was bad. Dad telling son don't help me at the slight chance of revealing you might be a little bit special. This leads him to have years of self doubt never developing into the person knowing the right thing to do. Killing zod would've been the wolverine way though not the Superman way. Or rather, maybe the Zack Snyder way.
Seems to me kick off Reed and it'll be much better. For one of the smartest men alive a lot of serious problems in Marvel seem to start with Reed did something stupid.
You hate namor, but you love namor. How.
Let's be honest. Namor and the inhumans both suck. King of fishes and King who has to shut up just don't measure up.
How’s your opinion now?
I love the Illuminati in Marvel. Just a bunch of massive egos making bad decisions.
Nothing beats starting up the group and then getting captured and tortured on their first mission. Hilarious stuff.
It's morbin time
Sadly, Tony was right about the SRA.
Sentry! Not century
The Illuminati worst hero group ever lol 😆
Day byoot? Silent T
I feel like what happened to sentry’s memories in the comics will happen to peter Parker in the mcu
Still less villainous than The Inhumans
Name-or or Na-mor?
Seems like a bunch of smart dudes making a bunch of dumb decisions.