Restoring the Vicious Jack Point of my Alfa Romeo Giulia (72)
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2022
- The restoration of my classic Alfa Romeo Giulia from 1972 continues.
The right door sill had been finished about 1,5 years ago, now I finally returned to the project and tackled the left one. After 4 of 5 films, the new sill turned out really nice. This time the jack point was restored, including the surrounding panels (floor pan, inner sill, A-pillar).
#Alfa105 #ClassicAlfa #restoration
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This car is going to be an excellent example when you are finished with it. I know how long and draining this sill repair process is, but well done and keep it up!
Thanks, Jethro.
I hope I’ll be able to finish metal work in 22. There’s an annoying accident damage waiting for me in the front right corner which worries me quite a bit. It’s going to be the ultimate challenge of this project.
@@GreasyFingers Yep, I found with mine that it was previous accident damage that was the worst to deal with... or more to the point, the dodgy previous repairs that the insurance companies presumably insisted on lowest quotes for! One sill on mine was "original" rust, the other side had an accident repair. I know which was worse to fix....
Truly a labor of love.
“No problem Olivia, sweetie. It’ll all be fine.”
Excellently videographed. Fascinating to see it come together, step by step. 👍👍
Thank you, Bob. Olivia will love the feedback.
Dude!... i love your slow and detailed approach. So good to see another home builder showing how it can be done without having to spend a fortune at a restoration shop. Great work!
Thanks, buddy.
All restoration shops are villains. 😆
Metal surgeon.....No doubt about it!!! Excellent work Johannes..
Thanks, mate. Yes, quite some surgery here.
Great vlog…I had a 74 Spider for maybe a decade (now the garage space is occupied by a 3.2 89 Speedster)…my Spider was very clean & I did a full engine drivetrain rebuild…maybe the lack of rust was indicative of our dry climate (Eastern seaboard Aust (Kangaroos not Mozart) & no salt on our roads…the quality of your work is a credit to you…very entertaining…all hail the Alfisti…👍👍
Thanks, mate.
„Kangaroo, not Mozart“ 😆😆😆
I also started wearing a plastic face shield on some of my projects . Great content as usual. Thanks 🇨🇦
Thanks, George.
I would not want to miss it.
This kind of repair is the best way to do.
Thanks, Klaus.
That is one lucky Alfa. Awesome work as always.
Thanks, mate!
I hope she’s aware!
Excellent professional restoration work project ,equally a improvement from factory This work is the most difficult types of metal work With lots of patience and tools to assist its easier but still very time consuming Well done excellent result
Thanks, Martin. Much appreciated!
Simply brilliant work on the floor pan repair - great attention to detail in match the radi. There may be coatings which offers extra durability to jacking point areas. Once again thank you for capturing and sharing the excellent content.
Thanks, Manjit. Always a pleasure.
Another brilliant video. Your commentary is as thoughtful as your work. I love the way you preserve as much of the original car as possible.
Thanks, Angus. Yeah, that’s the way I’ve chosen for this Giulia. She’s surprisingly good at places, too good to go for a full restoration.
While I’m still nervous about my own repairs it’s these videos that are my guide and give me some confidence about moving forward. Thanks!
You’re welcome, Simon. Looking forward to see the blue lady coming back on stage in the next years.
Yes! Perfect timing... I just hit a wall fixing rust on one of my cars and needed a break.... what is better then to watch someone else at it? :)
Glad it helped to relax a bit.
What seaside are we talking about actually?
@@GreasyFingers I had to find a good name for my channel when I started it... And it is all about what I do in my garage, which is a 100 meters from the Sea.... So... yea... very original.
This Seaside is located in Denmark! :)
@@SeasideGarage Been to Denmark with my son 1.5 years ago. Loved it.
Fantastic video Johannes Your craftsmanship is admirable as is you video production this one with a cool guitar rif in the background. Looking forward to seeing the next step of the repair
Thanks, Matthew. In fact I’m quite happy with the film’s music this time.
Had the same problem with my 1966 Giulia Sprint GT, only that the coupe has an additional strengthening panel at the bottom of the A-pillar. Five layers of metal, coming together in similar arcs at the bottom where they are all welded together longitudinally. An outstanding trap for moisture and debris. We're finished with the right side, now comes the left which is even worse, because in my car the wheel well panel's bottom has also rusted out.
Keep up the good work! And by the way: the video is nice. We're also filming the process on my car and I am at awe by seeing the amount of labour that must have gone into setting up the cameras and the lights to make this stint.
Thanks, Zsolt. That’s very kind feedback.
Where can I see your project?
@@GreasyFingers Well, this was the last report that we made: czcams.com/video/RHvHzN9DWDo/video.html
wow, intensive amount of reconstruction and patience! very nice work 👍
Thanks! Patience is key in a project like this.
So impressive, as always. Thank you so much!
Thanks, my friend. What would I be without your comments?
Amazing attention to detail as always! Well done Sir!!!
Thanks, mate!
I have been waiting since 2021 for this ;-) many many thanks.
Thanks, David.
Means you are preparing for the same job?
@@GreasyFingers I do not have your skill ! Ich habe eine neues Wort fur dich erstellt - Stahlkuntsler ;-) ( I need a German keyboard )
@@davidgray5583 Loving it. Danke!
Well done Johannes.. great job!
Thanks, Pantelis!
An amazing amount of work!! Great job sir
Many thanks, Ian!
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing work
Thanks, Giulio!
I so much llike watching this awesome work with such a beautiful car!!!
Thank you, Jouko!
As always another great video with a lot of detailed information how to tackle the problem. Your channel and of course Fitzee’s are tremendously helpful for body work. Will definitely helf with my GTV 2000 project. Thanks!
Thanks, Marcel.
Following your project on Instagram. Fingers crossed that their won’t be too many bad surprises.
What I like most about your channel is that you show the work and I am learning from you. So many others have become minor celebrities and the learning that drew me to them has begun to fade. Your channel remains an engaging one to watch.
Thanks, mate.
I guess what unites us on this channel is the love for and satisfaction about a successful car repair.
This is sooo motivating!
Awesome job.
Thanks, Manuel.
So get the welder out!
Bravissimo! Your channel is excellent and u deserve more subsribers. Former Montreal owner urrently restoring Swiss 105 bertone.
Thanks a ton, Edward.
Starting an almost-Swiss 105 Bertone this year, too. Almost-Swiss = Weil am Rhein.
Its always a pleasure to watch your videos. Excellent work as always and I really like that you only repair what is needed. For example, instead of replacing the entire front floor section you carefully out what was soft and replaced it with a small section. I like this approach, as the factory welds and assembly are strong and really hard to replicate. The metal treatment is after your welding work is a must and the pink paint,... ahh, its ok :) Keep up the great work my friend!
Thanks, Anthony. In fact it’s my approach to save as much as possible of the original structure. I am, however, quite pragmatic about these things. Replacing the entire floor pan is much more work and as you say it’s difficult to reach the original standard.
The pink is just a primer, nothing of it will be visible later on.
I love the pink, and the two fingers it gives to the red and black powder that attacks - perhaps even was built in- to Alfa’s of a “ certain” age.
And of course it is because of rust that so many have secumbed over the years , such that relatively few are now left and are only salvable with patient skills like yours
Thank you, Hugo.
In fact, ever since I use this pink primer it has become much easier to apply proper layer thicknesses. Places where there’s no sufficient coverage can be identified much easier than with the usual grey stuff. And the same is true for the base coat. Once no more pink is shining through, you can be sure you’ve applied enough.
What a work ! It is so good to see your attention to detail and your skills. The Giulia is my dream car, more than anything else. It requires truck load of attention though, it seems. But yours is saved, it will be better than new.
Thanks a ton, Yves.
In fact the Giulia is a dream car and the second great thing about it is that they’re still a bargain.
They are a good learning object, too because spare parts are really cheap.
Awesome! Cannot stop nail biting until it comes to steering box and carburator surgery
You’ll experience it live! 😃
@@GreasyFingers Yep!
Some people take a long bath, some a massage. Others do yoga or meditate. I just watch your videos!
Thanks, Jon. That’s exactly how they are meant!
Great work Sir, and not only for Alfa nuts, but anybody who is trying to repair or bring back to life any old car.
This is Fitzees Bello's custom or Japhands quality work LOL
Thank you very much, Michel.
I feel much flattered to be mentioned in the same breath with Obi Wan Fitzee.
great job.I know this hard bodywork very well.Iam doing now alfa berlina year70, where I changed all floors including trunk floor to all complete door sills inside and outside with all the floor beams.many successes in renovation.Paul.Slovakia
Thanks, Paul.
Body work is tough, it takes ages, but it’s very satisfying too. Your Berlina project sounds great. Feel free to put a link here …
Well done from the uk! Really enjoy watching your skilled work 👍. Hoping for more Porsche content in the future 😉
Thanks!
Muuuuuuch Porsche content in the pipeline.
Alfa nuts alert!!!
Great craftsmanship, once again!
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Great work, Johannes 👍👍👍 btw while watching I was just thinking haven’t seen that funny timelapse hammering for quite a while and there you went again 😂
It’s funny you say that. I’ve tried to avoid the time lapse sequences for a while now because at some point I found them too provisional and improvised. Now I’ve returned to it because it helps visualising the metal shaping and paint processes. Glad you like it!
20:28 Die Rache der Giulia 😊. Ich habe mir so oft den Kopf gestoßen, das ich dachte, der 145 macht das extra...
I felt it when you banged your head..ouch. thanks again for the amazing video
Yeah, these things happen at the end of a long day. I think I passed that spot without problems a hundred times, but when you’re tired …
I also watch M539 Restorations and Jethro and I must say, your channel is excellent, subbed :)
Thanks, Swen. Jethro is my reference point, we’re in regular contact and I dare to say we incite each other to make better stuff.
Nice work. Looked like a real mess in there
You bet!
Johannes-excellent work as always. The Previous Owner of my 66 TI cut out the front pans and dropped in repair panels from above. It's a solid tub but the underside is a potential/probable concern down the road. I think they did that to avoid the tight quarter you were in at the 18 to 20 minute mark. It's impossible to do Fitzee's 45 degree cut in tite quarters, so the way you've done it is correct , but ever so much work. I commend your efforts.
Will you consider provisioning a drain hole to allow draining and evaporation? A drain hole would also provide access for Waxoyl application every few years. Thank you for going slow and providing the names of products you are using. I like the tip on using tape to outline a cutline for a repair panel. When I see this much work on a pretty clean sedan, it makes me think I need to go back to University and take a class in stoicism before tackling my crusty GTV. Happy New Year from Austin Texas
Thanks, Steve. Same to you!
Yes, the usual way to replace 105 floor pans is to let some of the original panels stand and plug weld the new ones from above, from inside the cabin. I don’t like this because as you say, it’s a source of troubles.
Drain holes are standard and additional holes to bring in rust protection, I guess, aren’t necessary, because there’s a nice big access point in the rear wheel house. If you have a long enough tube you can perfectly reach any spot inside the sill from there.
You should get a Autovip! That makes work like that so much more ergonomic! :) Very nice work btw.
An Autovip in fact is on my list for the potential GTV project. Is it good?
@@GreasyFingers It is! And its actually a Danish invention from the 70´s... I got one, and I made a video about it when testing it that you could check out.
But in short... It looks very sketchy but is really a very good piece of kit... its a game changer when it comes to sill rust and floor rust.
@@GreasyFingers And you could really make one yourself.... but you need to trust your welds! ;)
Really thoughtful work. Can you describe your MIG welding set up please ? Do you use gas or just flux? I’m new welding but I want to fix my Alfa GT myself. Thx
Thanks!
MIG is actually all you need to know. It means that the weld while being liquid and therefore open for chemical reactions with atmospheric gases will be isolated with the inert gas from the bottle which is a blend of 20% CO2 and 80% Argon. I guess the gas flow is about 6 litres/minute and the wire is a 1mm standard product.
Liked and Subscribed, very, informative. My only question is who supplies your body, floor panels because in my country South Africa nothing Alfa is available which means everything must be imported. Cheers from sunny Cape Town.
Hello Nathan, pleased to meet you. I’ve learned from Jethro that importing spares to SA is very costly.
I guess that all parts dealers source their panels at pretty much the same suppliers that are mostly Eastern Europe based. I personally get parts from MyAlfaGroup who are a sponsor to my channel.
Excellent work!
When will you reinstall the jacking point?
Thanks, Ralf. Certainty in the next film about the Gulia which means in about two weeks.
Ok, NOW you're just showing off!
Seriously, effing awesome work!!!
😃😃
Thanks, Bruce.
Shoudnt you be using cooper primer for the parts you will be welding? It weldable and rust prevention. Forsch has some L233 i believe. Any way looks like my 924S in the same spots :)
Hi Adam. I use Inox spray which is basically the same idea than copper spray, but with stainless steel instead of copper.
Sheisse - how many hours did all of that take?? Nice work.
Holy sh*t, don’t ask. It’s beyond all reason.
Whats your rationale for going epoxy vs zinc based weld through primer? I usually try to go for the latter since its supposed to be able to handle heat a bit better thus leaving more of the protection intact (on the backside, usually). That said its such an unsatisfying topic since you basically rely on Hohlraumversiegelung to cover the bases you cant get to.
Yeah, that’s right.
I use epoxy primer for the cool parts because I believe it’s unmatched in terms of keeping oxygen away from the steel. I use Inox spray (which basically does the same than your zinc spray) at all places that will undergo welding heat. I’m going to talk about it in the next film.
Unfortunately, rust simply wasn't a concern when these cars were designed. The unibodies from this era are littered with such crevices where rust can spread unseen for years... It was only from the 1970s that engineers started designing bodies more rationally, taking rust protection into account. But before that, it was a disaster, regardless of make and model.
I love your videos and the high standards of your work: I learn a lot and gain much more comprehension for huge restoration bills: it does take an awful lot of time to put these things right, after all...
That’s very true. I’ve just recently inspected a 60ies Mercedes and it was nothing short of a nightmare.
I’d be interested by the way to learn more about your research on the Russian steel legend of Alfa Romeo.
Maybe a topic for a film one day?
You once told me that you consider this story to me a myth.
The only exception about corrosiveness of pre-Seventies cars might be Porsche, but we’re talking about “a little better” not about “good”.
@@GreasyFingers Indeed. Regarding the "russian steel" story, it's totally made up, yes. British writers have been repeating it for 50 years, but that doesn't make it true :)
The steel in your Giulia (and all other Alfas) came from Italsider, the state-owned Italian steel makers.
There was nothing wrong with the steel itself, by the way. But if you "protect" it with just a lick of paint, it's not going to last a long time... And that was the whole idea: after all, nobody expected these cars to be around in 10 years' time, let alone 50!
@@Matteo_Licata Some stories are just too good to doubt. It made perfect sense in the light of the Fiat/Lada deal, so to my shame I have to say I never questioned it.
No mortal man would press on after seeing onion like layers of rusty metal peeled away, each one revealing another layer of rust beneath.
You mean I’m a sort of elve?
I’d like the thought but I guess they’re all tall and slim, which is kind of killing the dream. 😆
what rustprotection do you use... I mean the pink stuff....is there any special thing with it why you use this stuff ?
Your son will not be pleased to see torn gloves.
It does not bother any of your viewers. ;)
Thanks again for the complete record you provide.
Yeah, and he did!
But wait for the next film, you’ll be surprised …
Are you going to repatriate all that soil in the sill back to Italy? There was some significant countryside trapped in there! 😀.
😂😂😂
Yeah, Parmigiano production in Reggio has already gone down significantly.
Top quality resto work. I like your “no compromise’ approach and the methodical way that you go about measuring and cutting your repair sections.
I’ve been continuously restoring classic cars, mainly Alfa and Lancia for over 30 years and work to similar standards. Check my CZcams vid on my 105 Gt at
czcams.com/video/bvce_Fax_q0/video.html
Thanks, mate. I’ve watched your entire movie, the result is STAGGERING!
What happened to the car? Is it used by yourself?
I’d love to be your apprentice, but at 57 I’m possibly a little late to the game..
Thanks, Nigel.
I’m 54, it’s never too late.