How to Turn Your Planer Into a Jointer
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Link to tools I use: woodspirit.net/products-i-use/ I needed to square up some stock without a jointer. I was able to create a jig to turn my planer into a jointer. - Jak na to + styl
We recently lumbered a 36" maple, a 36" white ash, and a 32" pecan. After drying, we tried planing with a Rigid (Home Depot) 13" planer with 2 HSS knives czcams.com/users/postUgkxIzvvTi3_Qc8JnVdYYRJCvuoDC4QjTzeL . This job was clearly too much for that machine. The pecan was particularly difficult, due to heavy mineral deposits, and a sharp pair of HSS knives would be consumed by a mere 3 boards. We were also having lots of problems from chip bruising, due to poor dust collection. The shavings came off like straw and jammed in the 4" hose.We bought the DW735 simply to be able to run carbide blades, which worked brilliantly for the pecan. However, we found it to be a much, MUCH nicer machine. It was far more rigid than the "Rigid" planer, and far more accurate as well. But what I liked most about it was the dust feed. This machine has its own blower, which shreds the "straw" like shavings as they come off the cutting head and helps boost the shavings into the dust collection system. No more clogs! It's also nicely sealed so that the internals stay quite clean. This is just a well tempered machine that's a delight to use. It literally cut the labor in half. Just another example of getting what you pay for.
Excellent video. I have seen plenty of planer sled videos but, I hadn't thought about the case where you want to make a piece 90 degrees to your other planed face.
Excellent solution. I get it that if all you have is a table saw, all your solutions involve a table saw... but this is so much safer and precise.
As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement czcams.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
Great job! I’m going to have to try this on my next project. I’m making a coffee table but don’t have a jointer! Thanks for sharing the video!
I like the extension that you made for the planer.
I love how elegantly simple your solution is, goes right back to the basic fundamentals of good carpentry using flat or plum references to continue forward to make 90° stock thanks
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I Love Jigs, after years of Professional Woodworking, you automatically start resolving issues with neat ideas! Another way u could accomplish 2 straight edges, is to glue both surfaces together with about an 1/4 inch offset on 1 edge, when your ready, run that edge that's a 1/4 offset against the tablesaw fence facing down, flip it over and trim the opposite edge, now u have 2 flat straight edges ready for the jointer!
You don't sound like a true professional by the terminology you use. Don't quit your day job.
Awesome! I never heard of the planer sled, I will build one tomorrow. And I will start using the planer as a jointer! Thank you. It will really be a benefit with my small shop.
Glad you liked it.
Very helpful! Also, I like the way you used the diagonal to cause less wear on the blades in a single spot.
Also means he will get a cleaner cut on more difficult grained timbers
Yea that was genius!
Nice
Reduces snipe also
Great tip! Thank you! I have a small 4" jointer and it's good to know the planer can be used as an alternate! I love DeWalt's DW735 planer, I haven't broken mine in yet but this looks like a great way to test it out.
What a great idea! Thanks for sharing. I was dreading buying a joiner. I will still probably get one, but this will help me in the interim.
I normally use the tablesaw for that, but i can see the advantages as it gives you more control and it is also safer. Good idea!
Best method I've found yet. Thank you so much for sharing this, it's really quite brilliant
I've always wanted a jointer but could never justify the expense for my home projects. I was lucky enough to pick up a DW735 at a local auction for a fraction of the MSRP. I just recently used it for the first time and learned a lot, lol. Both those planer jigs are a must if you don't have a jointer and want flat/true/square stock. This is a great solution, thanks for sharing it has saved me a lot of time, frustration and heartache...much appreciated.
So simple yet so effective. I have watched other videos tackling the same problem but the solutions were overly complicated. Thanks for the video!
I really like the industriousness, cleverness, and PRACTICALITY of this! So sick of some videos with ultra hybridized, sort of out of reach approaches to these shop hacks. Good job!
An elegantly simple and effective solution, well done and thanks for sharing.
I'm new to woodworking and just five minutes ago ordered the same planer your using. I will have to wait for a joiner when the budget allows but I can easily make a planer sled like yours until them. thanks for a really good video.
Elegant solution friend. Previously I have been sledding to get two parallel sides and then ripping on the tablesaw to get the perpendicular sides squared off but that usually means more sanding; this way might save some finishing. Great work!
Excellent idea! I particularly liked how you utilized the full width of the planer blades by offsetting the stock at a diagonal.
Do bear in mind, you'll get pretty significant blade marks if you run wood in on an angle, if you aren't using spiral "helical" carbide cutter heads. I have an old Delta planer, and I've found that sliding the boards through on an angle actually stops the snipe by 99%, but it leaves fine blade marks along the wood because it's cutting against the grain slightly, because the grain is no longer parallel to the direction of cutting. The blade marks are not an issue though, because they are very fine.
Good sled. Another benefit of the skew angle at which the work piece meets the cutterhead is a shearing cut which reduces tearout.
Excellent idea! I've used a long sled with shims to properly plane the wide sides of rough cut lumber before and have used a long table saw sled with cam-locking clamps that I made for jointing the edges. I usually end up with some burn marks from the circular blade and will have to try this method using the planer for the edges. Thx for posting. This looks promising and I will have to give it a try!
I do the same but cut the edge a little big (1/8) on the table saw on the first cut, and then do a second cut of the oversized 1/8th edge, which is quick and eliminates the burn marks.
Ive been using the tip from izzy swan a few years back regarding jointing the narrow edges. Using a narrow piece of ply against the fence of a tablesaw, put your workpiece on top of that, clamp it in some way, then the workpiece is more or less floating in space with the plywood providing reference to the fence. For clamping I use a strip on top of the ply with a couple of toggle clamps to hold the work. Great vid. I love all the tips I can get.
Excellent Idea. Thank you a thousand times. I thought i needed to machines you just showed me how to turn my planer into a jointer for small jobs.
Mark, great idea! I just got a DW734 and mostly make guitars. Since I don’t have a jointer this came at a good time. Thank you! I also like your planer table for addressing snipe. I’ll see if I can model off of yours but try to make it mobile since I’m limited on space. Cheers!
Great idea. I love the planer sled too and was going to make one but was always thinking about how I was going to do the edges of my boards. Here's my answer thank you very much
Thanks for posting, Mark. I really like the front and back extensions for the planer.
I was going to get a joiner/planer (UK) but I’m convinced to get a thicknesser based on your video. A simple sled with a straight edge, t tracks and clamps would work well to create lumber which is 90 degrees and planed all around!
Congratulations, you did a very good example and taught to the world another way to do a job.
I'm also trying to decide between a jointer and a planar. This simple and easy method helps. Thank you!
Thanks for the video! Simple solution to a complicated problem since many of us don’t have a jointer in the garage shop.
thank u so much for a simple solution now I can get a planer.
You just saved me some cash on going out to buy a new joiunter. Good video, I'll be watching for more.
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Very well thought out jig, and I like the materials you used. As others have mentioned, you could do the second side on the table saw, but since you just need to do another pass through the planer, and you're standing right there, this seems easier. Also if you have a wimpy contractor's saw (like me), but a nice planer, this is still better. It might give a cleaner cut with no blade marks. Looks like this may help control snipe on the planer, too.
just a note, i've had this planer for awhile, if you're getting snipe on this unit, its because of your own doing.
Thanks Mark! I've been thinking about a solution for a similar issue. I like yours better.
It also saves me from going out to buy a new jointer (as I have a perfectly good planer)
Great solution man. Thanks for sharing.
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Thank You!!! I have had a new planer for over a year , still in the box because I don't have my jointer yet. It's coming out of the box today!!
Perfect, exactly what I need to do. I have a good planner but no jointer. Thanks for the instruction.
great tip. thank you. i just purchased a dewalt thickness planer and i need to learn how to properly use it. guys like you are a big help in my doing that.
Great idea ! Thank you for the ingenious yet simple solution to the problem.
Hello Sir, just saw your video and I'm at this exact stage in a project. I just got my planer from a gentleman on Letgo. After a bit of cleaning and rust removal I now have a DW734 in working order for $50.00 and a new belt. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Good Day!
Scott Smith your gonna love the 734. I have had mine for a couple years and it works great. Such a smooth finish with that 3 blade head. I just did a cherry tabletop for some doll furniture and no need to do a final sand as the top came out silky smooth
Loved this - great, practical, simple (and the best idea's usually are) solution. Thanks for the tip....
Love it. Thanks. Just got my thicknesser and already faced this issue. Appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Dom :)
Brilliant, Mark!!! Thanks for the excellent explanation. Especially of why you angled it.
Excellant jig, it will make getting a straight edge alot easier. You explained it very well and i will be using your method on my next project. Thank you
Thanks for sharing these great tips. I love solutions that save money! Making this sled is now on my list.
Nice to see you innovating. Sometime I just hand plane the edges if there aren’t too many and keeps me active!
Nice solution with materials already in the shop. I don't believe I've met a jig that I didn't admire, they're all so very helpful.
I want to replace the top of my otherwise sturdy bench. I have a number of pieces of large pallet material (maple ~ 2"x4"x6'). They are all a bit twisted, so a sled such as yours is exactly what I need to make. I'll place them on edge, glue them up and run all-thread rod through them for a very hearty bench top.
Thanks for the ideas.
I am new to woodworking and this is exactly what I needed to learn. Thank you so much!
Great video. Ingenious solution with the planer. Really, really helpful!
This is an awesome idea. Theoretically one can take rough sawn out of square timber and create a perfectly square and planed product using only one machine and some jigs.
Great work Mark! I got the Dewalt DW735 planer and I knew there was a way to do the edges of my glued pieces without going out and getting a jointer to do this. My pieces always range from 2"-4" in width, so this is a perfect solution for me! Well done!
I'm glad you found it to be useful.
Yeah that’s a good idea! Nicely done. A word on running through at an angle, when planing if you can, run the board at an angle as this will help to prevent snipe.
Thanks Mark, I have a jointer but like this solution even better.
Very smart - was just looking at planer and jointer vids and thinking there must be a way to get a planer to do the job of a jointer somehow. And using the angle so the whole width is used was something I hadn't thought of, well done.
Great hack, the simplest solutions are often the best! 👏🇦🇺✌️
Good video. I’ve tried these tricks but to no avail. I then bought a jointer…….best day of my life!!! No more messing with jigs.
Fantastic solution. I just glued up 12 table legs and will use this instead of a edging jig on the table saw.
I really like that idea. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent idea! Thank you for making and posting this video! I love CZcams and it’s “how-to” video makers!
Thank you from Australia! That's a pretty agricultural solution, but I mean that in the nicest way. You've made a simple solution to a vexing problem and it can be knocked up pretty quickly. Izzy Swan level clever! Narrower sections can be jacked up inside the jig with strips of plywood if required as well. I'm definitely building this (and may even sell my jointer!)
Excellent tip and thank you for the video. I was wondering how I could make my material square without a planer. Now I know.
Excellent and simple demo to achieve the desired results. Good work.
Great idea. I was trying to square a 4x4 up. I planed the one edge, then I ripped the edge with the table saw. I need to build one of these.
I’m definitely gonna use your idea!!!! Thanks for posting your video and keeping it posted.
That is a great concept. I liked the idea of having the rail at an angle. Nice work!
Hello! I have jointer/planer combo and it takes long time to swap from jointer to planer and vice versa. I will be making this sledge as it would cut my time from rough lumber to smooth in half. This info was much appreciated, thanks!
Very nifty idea. I like my jointer but for someone who hasn't got one this is a great idea. Thanks for the video
That's a great idea. Very helpful for new woodworkers.
Wow man, now that is a really helpful tutorial! I also have a planer and not a jointer. I like the method of not having to drill into the wood to secure it. Normally I would screw a piece of metal to the wood and run it on the table saw but the planer would be a much cleaner and easier method! Thank you for sharing this knowledge.
Nice, I used to have a jointer and still like my hand planes, but this will be nice for bigger projects
Great jig, good explanation, thanks for the video, nicely done!
Thanks for the tip. I have just ordered DW733 and had second thoughts, but this video has just added a cool feature to it.
Love the sound of the birds in the background
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Thank you, Mark. I think your sled design is solid.
For edge-jointing wider stock, you can set up your router table with straight or shear cutting bit and offset split fence. Quicker, dead square, extended time before resharpening required with carbide bit, and no width limitation.
Wouldn't you need a really long router bit then?
@@davearonow65 Yes. I went this route, but it's hell keeping the stock against the router fence for a perfectly flat edge. I bought some wheel contraption things that sort of snug the board against the fence and it helps.
@@davearonow65 The router bit has to be no longer than the lowest point of the edge/side you are jointing/planing. Think about it, even 1/2 inch is a huge difference to plain down but is still only 1/2 inch. You can easily buy one inch router bits.
@@jeffstanley4593 thanks man. I asked because I am building exterior doors with panels that are 1 3/4 inches thick. Since this post a year ago, 25 successful doors later,, I've pretty much become an expert at edge joining long boards with a router.
My preferred method is to clamp an 8" level down I trust and have checked to be dead straight(used as a straight edge) and use it to guide my router along the edges of boards I'm going to join. I built a bigger base for my router to give it a lot more stability and I make sure to clamp down the center of the level as well as the ends so it doesn't flex. Its a little more involved than I'm explaining it, but I get perfectly straight edges and my joints look like they were made by a machine.
Thank you for sharing the methods. Now I can forget the need to buy a jointer.
Good idea to run the rails through on the angle, nice touch. Great presentation.
Hi Mark. Watched your video. Built the sled the next day and got my first piece of dressed timber...clearly new to this game. I had been wrestling with the need to buy more tools to get that third flat, square side for weeks. Love your work. Big thanks from Down Under
So simple and so effective! Thanks for sharing.
(i also only have a planer and no jointer and i am sure i will run into the same problem. Thanks for the solution!
(if i have wood which is to big for my planer, i will probably just cut it in halve and do the same process, and glue them back together afterwards)
Great idea - thanks for sharing.
This is great! I've been thinking of getting this thicknesser but I'm struggling to justify the cost. This changes everything! Thanks for sharing
I'm glad you found it to be useful.
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Me too. The cost is so high that I’ve been postponing purchase for years. Last week I bought a brand new one and… this tool changes EVERYTHING!
Alot faster with a table saw. No need to get a jointer with a good table saw
Excellent video and process. Thank you for sharing.
Very simple and elegant solution!
Good tips for any wood worker or DIY'er that doesn't have or can't afford a jointer! Subscribed!
Genius! I have both a jointer and a planer. Jointer is down right now (trying to figure out something). I'll keep that in mind.
Great idea. I sure would like to follow you around and pick your brain about woodworking. I’m sure I could learn a lot. Thanks for the videos.
I've watched several videos regarding this jig and other similar ones. I built one and while it is somewhat useful, I'd still recommend a jointer if you are serious about building quality projects. Hacks and workarounds will only get you so far.
Great idea, excellent stuff. Thank you for sharing!
Nice job, I like the diagonal sled to save blade wear. It's something I've been thinking about lately now that I'm doing projects to sell,. Mind the pennys and the dollars follow.
Very handy. The way I do it is a sled on the table saw. The sled had a perfect 90 degree to the fence and my lumber clamps to the top of the sled.
True and less use and wear on the planet blades
My jointer/planner broke and the parts have been discontinued so this give me a way to get my work done without buying another one. Thanks, Good job.
Great video. Some sled ideas to solve this issue are really complex. This however is short and to the point, and a simple but (i hope) effective idea. Thank you.
Excellent process. Thank you for sharing.
Creative solution. I look forward to trying it out.
I liked your video and method of getting straight edges. I'll be trying that at some time in the morning.
Cheers Herbie herbert
South Wales UK
Very helpful and practical set-up. Thank you.
Cool outfeed table! Nice job.
Cool idea especially like the angle as not to wear down the blades
Excellent idea! I really like it. Do you have a video showing how you build the workbench for the planer with the infeed and outfeed extensions?