The Ultimate Mario Kart Wii Iceberg Explained
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Hello everyone! After making the Luigi's Mansion video, I thought I'd take a dive into a well made iceberg for one of my favorite childhood games, Mario Kart Wii. This video took me quite a while to make, and I'm definitely gonna do a lot of double checks on the technical explanations before this goes public, but it's not impossible that I miss something, but it is what it is.
Regardless of that though, let me know how I did! Was the iceberg lacking? Did I leave out extra context for things? Did I not explain something as thoroughly as I could've? Let me know!
About Mario Kart Wii:
Mario Kart Wii is a 2008 kart racing game developed and published by Nintendo for the Wii. It is the sixth installment in the Mario Kart series, and was released in April 2008. Like its previous installments, Mario Kart Wii incorporates playable characters from the Mario series, who participate in races on 32 different race tracks using specialized items to hinder opponents or gain advantages. The game features multiple single-player and multiplayer game modes including two- to four-person split screen. (via Wikipedia)
Chapters (Excluding Introduction & Outro):
00:00 - Layer 1
13:31 - Layer 2
28:20 - Layer 3
48:25 - Layer 4
1:08:33 - Layer 5
1:15:27 - Layer 6
1:22:33 - Layer 7
1:26:27 - Layer 8
1:32:51 - Layer 9
Music Used:
Mario Kart Wii OST
Yume Nikki OST
Footage Used:
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Correction Doc (Made by bento, ejay, & other community members!) - docs.google.com/document/d/16u0dsBEB_Y_5cBvA0XvABPHrsHkLrbLoHJ9ngQsRtk0/edit?usp=sharing
I tried putting a big list here, but it's too long even for a youtube comment. The doc is not done currently but it will be soon so be on the lookout for that! There will most likely be a shortened version at some point so people can read about it here on CZcams as well. Huge thanks to bento, ejay, & other community members for reaching out and offering to help with clarifications and general corrections to thing I got wrong in the video, really can't thank them enough.
Sorry about the occasional flickering in the video. I think I got unlucky with hardware as I recently built a new PC, and I tried re-rendering this like 6-7 times to fix it but I literally can't do it, so it is what it is. Really wish it wasn't there, I had no problems with the Luigi's Mansion video, so I don't know what happened here.
correction doc is wrong about desert hills backwards cut, doesn't make a difference for bagging
Correction, the video did not originate on the Vectorchaotix1 channel, it is a re upload from a presumably deleted video, as another video of people watching Mario says SpongeBob on the TV published before that video exists
czcams.com/video/Yzpk12eVZiI/video.htmlsi=H4QAeSYtcdChapmj
Maybe the original was credited on the annotation, which is gone now
this is really cool video to watch for me to learn more about the game
Fun fact about the "? !" video shown at 14:22. You cannot look this video up in the youtube searchbar. The only way you can watch this video is by seeing it in your recommended videos. The fact that an unsearchable video like that has 28 mil views is kinda crazy.
Mario Kart Wii is such an enigma of a game. Its community has grown in spite of the fact that the official service was shut down a decade ago, it has some of the most insane TAS tricks around, especially for a racing game, and all in all represents achieving the impossible.
My first ever upload on one of my old channels was an MKWii video in 2008. I love this game man
Why do i hate furries?
hello ivycomb did not expect you here
@@snowycoast I am more involved in the MKWii community than you might realize ;)
hey
@@gmdblue hey
I'm not sure but I think the "melee of mario kart" one is a reference to how both this game and smash melee are completely broken, but are completely loved by their respective communities
Also maybe that they have decently high skill ceilings
Pretty sure it's both
wait sharks fans are real?
I think it’s just the longevity of the mkwii community which is strong years later
Melee needs to die. Mk Wii can stay. At least its community can be chill and not elitist.
I’m probably sounding like a nerd but I think the entry at 25:40 refers to the changes tracks would receive if you use a mii, for example in Luigi circuit with a mii the Luigi statue will be replaced with a mii statue
Brooo ur right LOL
holy hell, memory unlocked!
Hey! MKWii TASer here. Can't even begin to imagine how much time it took to create this video, major props to you!
Just wanted to correct a few statements real quick:
1:47 - There are actually 6 tracks left without ultra shortcuts. The community uses the term ultra longcut to denote tracks with key-checkpoint exploits that don't save time when compared to the fastest run that doesn't use an ultra. 3 tracks have ultra longcuts: DK's Snowboard Cross, Moonview Highway, and GCN DK Mountain.
33:54 - This is absolutely not a wall. What you highlighted is drivable road (offroad specifically). Wall collision is not drivable.
34:05 - We know exactly why the most common form of horizontal wall glitch occurs. It's got to do with this particular chunk of code and walls that are slanted at an angle greater than arccos(0.85). Also the next 2 videos you played don't have any HWG in them.
39:27 - Rapid-fire hop abuse isn't the same thing as supergrinding. There's a key distinction between the two. Supergrinding is when you utilise rapid-fire hopping to specifically build up speed. Rapid-fire hopping on its own is useful for many things outside of using it to supergrind, such as low-tricking ramps (as you mentioned).
59:39 - This technique is called a wall trick or wall bounce, not a wall cancel.
Great work once again!
Hey, thanks for the feedback. Mind if I use these for a pinned comment at some point?
@@gmdblue Sure thing dude
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@@Galaxy45678typa person to nerd emoji the teacher because you got something wrong on your homework 🥱🥱
@@EjayB 🤣
The mii track differences isn't talking about the mii weight differences. It's talking about the fact that if you play as a mii, aspects of the map will change, for example, when you mention the Yoshi sphinx and are confused as to why it's not a mii like you remember, that's because sometimes it is a mii, assuming there's a mii on the track.
holy shit bro you were my childhood, hope ur well
The daisy circuit jumpscare haunts me to this day 😂
That was unexpected.
@@buddysproductions7802 the audio of the screamer is burned into my brain
I literally turned down my volume the exact moment it went off.
Yeah it's very memorable
I was so scared as a kid. Immediately turned off the computer and disconnected the router lol
Holy crap, I know something the narrator doesn't.
The "Light Weights Are Bad" video was someone playing as Toad while in a duck just before the finish line, but they lost momentum first by getting hit by something (I think it was a green shell). Then before they could get their momentum back, was knocked off the track by bouncing off by some large characters I think they were Funky Kong, then Bowser, then... some other character. While trying to get back on they get hit by an explosion where the video ends.
The fact the quacker still had the Rainbow Road world record when the script was written has to show how much work went into this video
Yup
1:26:56 - I watched this video last night and fell asleep at some point, and the transition to layer 8 jumpscared me awake lmfaooo
Hah! Scared me too!
Top players hating DK Summit feels like an example of top players optimizing the fun out of it. That level is one of my faves purely because it's fun to do cool tricks on the ramps and see what you can do.
I'm probably being exaggerated but I really think that competitivity ruins a lot of things
@@esueijae8352 agree
I think for players like that that have put so much time and effort into optimizing and breaking a track that going back to playing it as intended probably feels maddeningly slow or even pointless. I’m not saying I agree- I don’t, and I think it DOES suck the fun out of the design if you value that more- but I think it is a factor for top players.
my monkey brain's neurons activate after doing one of the cuts
"Yeah, I take good care of my controllers!"
_Has a Mario Kart Wii disk holding up his mini TV._
💀
I didn’t know the disc was double sided 😅😅😅
DID HE DELETE THE “This guy sounds like he could do a perfect Carl weezer impression” COMMENT?!?! TF
Doctor: you have 1 hour and 41 minutes left to live
Me asf:
*gets reincarnated into the Mario universe*
Sorry about the occasional flickering in the video. I think I got unlucky with hardware as I recently built a new PC, and I tried re-rendering this like 6-7 times to fix it but I literally can't do it, so it is what it is. Really wish it wasn't there, I had no problems with the Luigi's Mansion video, so I don't know what happened here.
Pp
Dw about it bro
Remember how you said random drifting is a skill issue… this is your consequence for doubting god
@@yumithehunter6292I angered zeus unfortunately
@@gmdblueWasn't it confirmed that the Nintendo soundtrack copyright claims were made by a fake company? Basically, nobody gets copyright claims from Nintendo. They get it from Nintendo of Japan or Nintendo of America or whatever. It's never just "Nintendo." This basically means Nintendo might have had nothing to do with it.
Thank you badger
1:35:00 i love the shock, it's such an innocent little adventure created entirely by him and it reminds me of how i'd do that with toys as a kid
Thank you for this. I've been slowly gathering entries for a massive and all-encompassing Mario Kart iceberg and I thought I had finally reached the end of my search. Thanks to this video I've added like 30 more entries to a total of 372. The iceberg will likely stay as a google sheet or an image if I feel like making that but still.
1:34:40
This is hands down my favorite part of the video
I genuinely love the way you screamed those lines XD
I'll come back if I need you for voice work
ive thought about doing voice work
just thought id say the thumbnail looks absolutely beautiful
great video too!
another one of the main eu/us differences that threw me off for years because i didnt realise it was a thing is the flamerunner is called the ‘bowser bike’ which is an objectively much worse name.
Yeah but it is in fact a 'bowser bike'
Had a short work shift today, and this video happened to pop up in my recommended. Getting me through work is 100% worth a sub. Good vid! :)
Nicely done.
Was scoping for another iceberg you from and thought I missed this one haha
So good to see a new video
That Daisy Circuit jumpscare actually got me ngl, the volume should've been lower though
I lowered it a lot, but yeah probably
Nice video was fun to watch being an avid mario kart wii player myself it was nice to hear about some more obscure random things that dont really get brought up in the community that much
This channel is amazing, binging everything now 😮
Yessss ive been watching your videos to fall asleep for months and was just about to catch up. Amazing comfy night time content.
I hope the jumpscare doesn’t bother you too mucu 😭😭😭
@@gmdblue haha nah I usually have the volume pretty low so it works out
absolutely insane video, even as someone who has been passionate about this game for countless years i learned quite a few things! there were a few quirks i wanted to elaborate on further with what i do already know
7:31 i believe km/h is an unofficial description for the base speed units that mario kart wii uses, mph is not useful here
53:59 i think this is referring to some actual inaccuracies i have personally noticed in the vehicle stats displayed in the menus, especially easy to pick up in the drift stat. for example: dolphin dasher, magikruiser, and zip zip/rapide's drift stats are not displayed correctly
57:06 beating the expert stat ghosts does not give unlocks, but unlocking them does
1:14:23 this song is Bobble Head Inspiration by Nex from OverClocked ReMix. a lot of oc remix songs are extremely good and absolute hidden gems. the ctgp revolution channel banner music was also an oc remix song, Fleeting Ecstasy by Ben Briggs
1:26:35 im guessing this actually refers to the cc probabilties online. in rooms filled with players with lower VR or race rating, there is a higher chance of 100cc being picked. obviously 100cc is slower and more boring but it also makes some shortcuts harder or impossible
also i was a little disappointed that the iceberg never mentioned RMCC, a version of mkwii for the unreleased iQue Wii in mainland china. it is entirely possible it still exists as we were able to get the entire ique wii system menu through leaks, but no luck yet. and wheres chadderz doing the macarena, huh? thats pretty important i think.
im very glad cowboy jed got his share of mention cuz he is the most important person to all of mario kart wii's history
Thanks for the feedback! I'm going to make a giant pinned comment at some point with everything people can find. I had proofwatchers and stuff like that but things do slip through the cracks.
I believe that km/h is just standard because mr bean is british. I know some TASers are particular about using units per frame instead of km/h. mi/hr would end up being the exact same as km/h because neither of those titles are accurate to what the in-game velocity means. I assume km/h was used so that you (the player) get an intuitive sense of how fast the character is moving and consequentially how big the racetrack is.
dude I was falling asleep that screamer woke me up 😭
Holy moly this is gonna be a banger
You really covered everything. Great video!
12:22 Hello little kitty! :D
YESSS ANOTHER ICEBURG I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
There are more differences in the British English version of Mario Kart Wii - some karts and bikes have different names. For example, you did later mention that the "Flame Runner" is known here as the "Bowser Bike" - it might have been worth mentioning there.
damn this was a surprise, I love this game. I made a tiny appearance on one of the leaderboards :D
I can only imagine the massive amount of work it took to create this video, and going even further to provide all of the corrections is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
If you are interested, there is a lot of backstory behind the Desert Hills Backwards Shortcut (52:48). I joined the MKW community in early 2020 because I was inspired to find my own ultra shortcut, and this exploit was the first thing I found. Yet, I was unaware it was already known, and had already been dismissed as slower. I theorized it as an ultra shortcut because I was new and didn't understand the criteria for ultras yet. Basically, it uses a different checkpoint exploit than an ultra, and therefore could never be an ultra.
It only gained notoriety as a potential shortcut when I went a step further and combined the exploit with the additional backwards shortcut shown at 53:10, which apparently, no one had seriously considered. However, this was versus only as you state. This is because it requires obtaining an item after respawning, to take the backwards cut. It would have had additional value online because you could smuggle a power item into a top spot, due to position shenanigans. Unfortunately, it was these shenanigans that got the glitch banned online, making it irrelevant once more. I don't think the bagging aspect had anything to do with it, but rather the actual position bugs it caused for players.
HOWEVER, plot twist! Much later, Justin found that this backwards cut was possible shroomless all along, with a simple well-timed hop. I don't know how I missed this. Regardless, this finally made it viable once again, but this time for time trials. This is a lap 3 exclusive shortcut, as you need to do it after already using all three shrooms. Otherwise, you'd lose them when you respawn. Despite all of this, no one has used it in a world record yet, nor is anyone really attempting it due to its obscurity. I'm pretty sure a skilled player could get a WR with this, and this story won't truly end until they do...
The actual ultra shortcut, found much later, only saves time for a fast lap record, so the backwards shortcut remains on top for regular records. Not to mention, the actual ultra shortcut is also extremely difficult and has only been done with TAS, although it is theoretically humanly possible and one person has gotten close, 117james. He is the only person to actively attempt this glitch due to diminished interest in flap records, combined with the difficulty.
All of this to say, a week or so after Desert Hills, I was also the person to discover that overhang in the invisible wall in Mario Raceway, which led to an actual ultra shortcut. It was an insane turn of events for my first few weeks in the community... I make custom tracks now btw lol
P.S. I'm glad you got use out of my replay glitch video as well, I'd definitely recommend trying it out. I should note I did not originally find that glitch, but I did figure out how to set it up consistently, as well as documenting the few interesting side effects you mentioned.
Hey! Thanks for watching man, it means a lot to hear from dedicated people in the community
Crazy I got here before the 12 billion badger comments
25:39 Mii Track Differences refers to how using a Mii replaces every statue or poster in the tracks with Mii heads, it wasn't talking about the weight class differences.
Mario Kart Wii has alway been my favourite Mario Kart game, followed by Double Dash and 8 Deluxe. I love the game's aesthetic and janky charm. Coconut Mall is probably still my favourite track. It's extremely fascinating to find out about the cut content and obscure details.
correction: "mii track differences" probably means the differences that happen on the tracks when u play as a mii, like the luigi statue in luigi circuit having a mii face (same with daisy circuit) or the yoshi sphinx in dry dry ruins
Looks like someone survived the mosquito sting, glad to have a new video
i think mii track differences is referring to the fact that when you play as a mii on certain maps, the track is changed slightly, certain objects are replaced with miis or faces on statues are swapped out for mii faces
Mario Kart Iceberg? Thank you very much!
This is one of my favorite iceberg videos yet... scrolled through some of the correction doc and yeah... also I was told Marty was green due to lighting but that might have been an efficient way to show Marty as green efficiently in-engine because Kaze knows Nintendo did not know a bunch of programming science, much of which was found later... anyway realllly enjoyed this one, Wii is the one out of 8 I've played the least, found Troy on CZcams and found out it could be modded and so hoping to play it more
29:30 How the world looks when you stand up too fast
You might have iron deficiency
genuiinely bro yeah I love it when people from the gd community have the same interests as me it makes me so happy (also considering mkw is my alltime fav game ever lmao)
I started this video at 1am and woke up the next morning with my AirPods stuck in my pillows and this video finished on my phone lol
This is an amazing iceberg I do love Mario kart Wii it's my favourite Mario kart though 8 deluxe is a pretty close second a lot of things on this ice berg I didn't know. Also I thought I was the only one who experienced the wrong turn glitch I will be playing a completely normal game make a sharp left turn then BAM sharp right turn straight into a wall it's probably due to the fact all my Wii controllers all have there fair share of glitches but the one I use is the only one where the pointer works which is why I use that controller.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOO he made a video on one of my fav ever games :D
Love you for this video
Got jumpscared by the Vaughn Mills Mall Car video because that's my local mall lol
Desert Hills' "negative aura" is just another way of saying its a boring ass track.
Yess a mariokart iceberg
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
new nintendo video documentary dropped, time to take a nap
I LOVE YOU AIRSHIP FORTRESS FTW
14:24, correct me if im wrong, but also isnt this video completely unsearchable? ive heard that due to the title it makes it impossible to find if you try to use the search function on youtube
It might be since it has so many views now
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this is still my favorite mario kart game to this day.
54:40 As a Dutch person, I can actually say that this was the case for a lot of Wii games. Wii Party is the only example I can think of right now of a first-party Wii game actually having a Dutch localization available. Mario Kart 7 would be the first game to include one, and I can remember seeing Mario Kart in Dutch for the first time - it blew my mind.
The "early vehicle colors" part most likely refers to the unused multiplayer leftover versions of some vehicles having slightly different colors, models and textures (as seen in the Early Vehicles section from the TCRF page)
Regarding the special ghosts, it refers to the obscure TT ghosts Nintendo distributed in Japan and Korea (as explained in the Special Ghosts section from the TCRF page)
"i want to make a shorter video" _* proceeds to make the longest video they have ever made *_
(it was worth it tho the iceberg was really enjoyable ^u^)
I'm pretty sure the reason the CPUs drive backwards at 1:10:02 is because in mario kart wii, the paths CPUs follow are set by points, with a line automatically created between each point that tells the CPU where to go. They made it so that the line from the last point goes straight back to the first point. Normally not a problem since the last point should be right before the first point. But here, the points dont go around the whole track, so the line connecting the last point to the first point at the beginning of the track should go completely backwards and cut straight through the wall. The CPUs try following the path and end up driving backwards to get back to the first point
actually, specifically on the end credits stage, the enemy point the game treats as the 'first' one is way over on the turn before the large straight with the off-road ramp on the left; this is where the player first appears in the credit scene. most of the enemy points that are connected backwards were manually re-connected to points near the start line; they needed to connect the points to something, since if you have a point that doesn't link to anything past it the game crashes, but their decision to link them specifically to the start line are is intentional and also kind of random-seeming. the points they chose to link to happened to be points with no *previous* link (which is normally fine, at least in this scenario, there's plenty of others on the tracks) so my guess is they just wanted to give those points a link so there weren't too many points without prior links in case that would cause problems down the line.
interestingly, there is one route that does what you said; the route doesn't snap backwards like the others, and instead drives forwards a bit more before linking back to point 0, resulting in it ramming into a wall further along that section of the track. in the timestamp you mentioned, mario (who i believe would be the player's character / gp winner in this footage) hits that route and drives off instead of turning around like the others
28:43 NO WAY THATS ME LMAO
I made a remix of one of the osts on this game called 'options'. Japanese racing games are always the, in both OSTs and game design.
Was kind of surprised to not see anything about being able to fall beneath maple treeway, unless I fell asleep and missed it at some point
wake up babe gmdblue dropped an mkwii iceberg
This is Sparta!!
1:12:18 I’m pretty sure Marty is the same color as the other thwomps. He just looks green because of the harsh yellow lighting in the cell.
whats the name of the background song? in the beginning of the vid
hi sparta c:
Are there "expert ghosts" in mario kart 8!? I never knew about how to unlock funky kong! Never had mk wii
Btw well made and very entertaining video with much of my favorite kind of info, thank you very much!
I actually had the cheat book that talked about Mii Outfit C as a kid and thought of it right before you mentioned it
I got a dm from a friend 2 days ago and they had it too LOL
Cool vid
15:23 I heard this same rumour some time ago when it was alleged someone discovered the models for Mii Outfit C in the files, and it appeared as a Toad Outfit. If I'm remembering right, this Toad model actually corresponds to Mii NPCs that appear in the crowd in Daisy Circuit, not a playable character.
did not know badger played mkw
1:50
Toad's Factory does have a very large skip that I think is TAS only, but idk if it's an ultra shortcut
Hi sparta!
character selection does matter I have played probably hundreds of hours using each different character on flame runner and they just feel different idk how to explain it. Wario especially feels different from FK. KB i know is a touch slower and drifts tighter. It’s very subtle but it feels really weird to play online using flame runner and not FK. I have no idea if the “character selection doesn’t matter” argument shows up in the video as I am currently only 5 minutes in but I wanted to go off on a tangent anyways.
Nice to see badger from breaking bad narrating this video.
jumpscare
The “Waluigi Stadium is poorly designed” thing I think refers to the ramp at the end which screws players over if they get hit while jumping. Personally I quite like the track (but only the GCN and Wii versions) for its somewhat unique style.
But did Mario say "SpongeBob," though?!
Discuss.
I think mario said spongebob
The Yoshi sphinx is a Mii head when you're playing as a Mii
55:07 this is maybe not there for the red pipe, but because it's just a very bad job hue-ing the sky in order to make it look dusky, you can still see the blue behind the fence and in some spots where they didn't wanna bother with feathering
DID YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE JUMPSCARE AND BRING BACK ALL MY NIGHTMARES???????
I’m glad there is not goofy ah one that’s says “Ever copy of mario kart is personalised 😭”
Anyone know what the original vid is called? Link doesn’t work
Ghost file overflow happens either when 6 minutes pass or the player inputs too many inputs. its a lot easier to make it happen on the wheel because of motion controls.
I find it fascinating that the unused paratroopa icon is the same one seen in prerelease screenshots and footage
THE BEST CREATORS REUNITING TODAY LFG
Randomly checking the account to see he posted 10 minutes ago
what might happen when selecting Dutch is that because no translations are provided/programmed and thus the game defaults to UK English instead as most tools to make translations possible ask to also provide a default language for if a translation is missing so there isn't nothing or reference to the translation
Nintendo also in general mostly began with translating to Dutch starting with the 3DS & wii U although probably most still play in English here in NL
Hi Sparta. 😗
Also: I wonder if the speed preservation tech is in MK8? i've never actually tried it.
King boo same character crashed scared me ngl when I did it with my sister.
If i had the ability to fix my wiimote or nunchuck. I would still play this game’s time trials mode on ctgp every day
I completely agree that the bloom effect is WAY too obnoxious. Just makes it look like my glasses are smudgy.
Or like there's fog on every track.
remember, just because you’re an organ donor, does mean you have to act like one 🙏
I don't know if something's wrong with me but I saw that thumbnail, saw the runtime, and made a deafeningly loud primal tribal monkey noise and my neurons activated
21:50 disappointed you didnt interrupt the actual shortcut with a jumpscare lmao