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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2021
  • Soon after the Ford Motor Company introduced the Pinto to the public in 1970, the inexpensive subcompact model became one of the most popular cars in the United States. However, by the end of the decade, the Pinto had earned a reputation as a "firetrap." The car's fuel tank could explode if the car was involved in a rear-end collision - a danger that Ford engineers were aware of but failed to address.
    #FordMotorCompany #FordPinto #WeirdHistory

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  • @WeirdHistory
    @WeirdHistory  Před 3 lety +155

    What was your first car? Me? Well, a white 1987 Toyota Tercel hatchback nicknamed "The Egg"

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před 3 lety +13

      1976 VW Rabbit. $300. Pumpkin orange with black rims. Had no gascap, oil cap, muffler, or speedo. But it _did_ have a double barrel Weber progressive carb, so I had that going for me.
      11th grade priorities aren't to be questioned.

    • @warningpage8032
      @warningpage8032 Před 3 lety +10

      My first car was a brand new 2012 Chevrolet Cruze. I still have to this day. The year model shows my age very well.

    • @Raintiger88
      @Raintiger88 Před 3 lety +10

      1972 Pinto! (in 1984) $100 + $50 to pay off the inspector for my "inspection." Complete piece of crap, but it always started up, got me where I was going and didn't explode.

    • @joy5816
      @joy5816 Před 3 lety +4

      '99 Chevrolet Cavalier, convertible. Fell apart every other week but it got me by for a couple of years

    • @RavensSoTired4081
      @RavensSoTired4081 Před 3 lety +7

      Mine was a geo metro little piece of shit

  • @kokonut1350
    @kokonut1350 Před 3 lety +282

    Finally, Weird History will be talking about cars!! HELL YEAH!!!

  • @melindakinnaird
    @melindakinnaird Před 3 lety +454

    A friend of mine had a blue Pinto. She called it the Blue Bomb.

    • @akira808state4
      @akira808state4 Před 3 lety +7

      With good reason because of the design flaws that Ford knew about, but did nothing about them.

    • @paza1002
      @paza1002 Před 3 lety +10

      I had a blue one as well. My husband still calls that color “Patty Blue”. Sometimes I miss that car. 😂

    • @loislewis5229
      @loislewis5229 Před 3 lety +8

      I had a white Pinto station wagon in 1980. Loved that car.

    • @justahilltopguy5418
      @justahilltopguy5418 Před 3 lety +5

      That's awesome! Our neighbor had a brown one we all called the brown bomber!

    • @absatwell8163
      @absatwell8163 Před 3 lety +1

      Our nanny had a blue one. We called her grandma Canalli. (Sp)?

  • @drewelliott9062
    @drewelliott9062 Před 3 lety +189

    It was basically the real life version of every car in Hollywood movies.

  • @funnygrunt_o7
    @funnygrunt_o7 Před 3 lety +318

    Learned about this from my engineering professor in a lecture about how being cheap has killed many people in history

    • @misterhat5823
      @misterhat5823 Před 3 lety +8

      I learned about it in an engineering ethics course in grad school.

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před 3 lety +3

      It's still a long standing legend since the 70's that the big auto makers had _many_ people bumped off for snitching on design flaws, and politicians handsomely bribed to obstruct imports.
      It's still a popular plot for movies and books to this day, but real world examples rarely get summarized. Strange, that.

    • @kevinwebster7868
      @kevinwebster7868 Před 3 lety +1

      @@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing there is a reason why it’s big in movies. Because it’s a work of fiction.

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Před 3 lety +5

      @@misterhat5823 Engineering ethics was part of my under grad in the mid 1990s. The Pinto story was covered along with the Challenger disaster and the catwalk collapse in the Kansas City hotel.

    • @misterhat5823
      @misterhat5823 Před 3 lety +1

      @@billschlafly4107 The same cases were covered in the course I took too.

  • @kenyattaclay7666
    @kenyattaclay7666 Před 3 lety +92

    My mom told me once that her first car was a Pinto and she got it right after I was born. When they started blowing up she got rid of it for a Grand Torino which I loved because it was the Starsky & Hutch car.

    • @rickloera9468
      @rickloera9468 Před 3 lety

      I've had two 72 Pintos and loved both them. I currently have a 72 Gran Torino.

    • @patprice2953
      @patprice2953 Před 2 lety

      It's Gran Torino.

    • @socaljet
      @socaljet Před 2 lety +1

      from poular mechanics"Reports range from 27 to 180 deaths as a result of rear-impact-related fuel tank fires in the Pinto, but given the volume of more than 2.2 million vehicles sold, the death rate was not substantially different from that of vehicles by Ford's competitors."

    • @kenyattaclay7666
      @kenyattaclay7666 Před 2 lety +4

      @@socaljet okay, so if you are the parent of a toddler and you see that this is a SERIOUS flaw in the design of the car are you seriously going to keep driving that car. Also, unlike Ford’s competitors, Ford hid the fact that they knew about the problem and it wound up costing them more than it would’ve had they just fixed it. The pinto is the main reason why we have a law the forces automakers to recall known issues at their expense.

    • @rickloera9468
      @rickloera9468 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kenyattaclay7666 Actually the Corvair was what started the whole automotive safety thing with Ralph Nader. Ford attempted there safeguard program in 1955 and ended in 1956. The mentality back then was if you have to put seat belts in a car then it must not be a safe car in the first place. People were skeptical of safety belts. Front seat belts were mandatory in 1964 rear I believe came around 1966. By 1968 collapsible steering columns became standard as well as front seat shoulder belts as well as a multitude of other safety features. This was all before the Ford Pinto came out. Ford amd GM were working on a air bag program in the early seventies. Often times the court of public opinion has to bring on change for the better. Now car companies are tripping over themselves on how many air bags they put in each car. The difference is safety now sells where in the past the public wasn't interested. Sort of similar with the publics view of smoking now vs decades ago.

  • @Nerdznewznow
    @Nerdznewznow Před 3 lety +370

    Any decent economics class in the US has already gone over the Ford pinto as the main example as to how ghoulish and cold hearted a corporate cost-benefit analysis can be

    • @rutgerb
      @rutgerb Před 3 lety +4

      I am not American (as in:thus i didnt follow any economics class in the US) for me it was a new example.

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 Před 3 lety +15

      Wonder why we're all so anxious to trust it now with big pharma. Corporations and the government have our best interests in mind

    • @thehighllama8101
      @thehighllama8101 Před 3 lety +7

      @@chiefslinginbeef3641 Exactly. Why are people who dare question multi-billion dollar global corporations now considered to be "conspiracy theorists"? Why do liberals, who used to distrust and question the government, now think we should believe everything the government says about vaccination and our health?

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Před 3 lety +5

      @@thehighllama8101 Corporations put profits first but the government puts power first. At least you can sue a corporation - well not always - wink wink.

    • @numerum_bestia
      @numerum_bestia Před 3 lety +12

      @@thehighllama8101 The smallpox vaccine was developed in 1796. They aren’t some new thing. Without vaccines you probably wouldn’t exist. Nobody had any problem with being vaccinated against smallpox or polio. What if you cut yourself on a rusty nail? Do you just wait for lockjaw to set in or do you go and get a tetanus shot?

  • @FaunoLab
    @FaunoLab Před 3 lety +325

    In Portuguese, "Pinto" means "Dick". I couldn't help but laugh when he said "Consumers loved the pinto".

    • @ericksapinho
      @ericksapinho Před 3 lety +28

      Imagina comprar um Ford Pinto azul 😳

    • @moonprincess500
      @moonprincess500 Před 3 lety +8

      @@ericksapinho 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🏆

    • @boejiden876
      @boejiden876 Před 3 lety +7

      Lol. No shit?

    • @taptapuyo2714
      @taptapuyo2714 Před 3 lety +15

      In Tagalog language Pinto means door 🚪

    • @boejiden876
      @boejiden876 Před 3 lety +8

      @@taptapuyo2714 in English it means a pony

  • @michiganjack1337
    @michiganjack1337 Před 3 lety +71

    A many of Joke with Pinto being the punchline. Sadly I just recently made a Pinto joke around some of the younger folk and they had no idea what I was talking about- I then slinked away having a existential crisis.

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +2

      I hate it when that happens.... I made a Sure/Unsure joke, and got stared at. In case you're wondering, it was deoderant, and I was referencing the commercial. Oh well, can't always be funny.

    • @michiganjack1337
      @michiganjack1337 Před 3 lety +2

      @@gohawks3571 I absolutely remember Sure/Unsure lol. Here’s one for ya remember the campbell's manhandlers? I still randomly sing that out 🤣🖖🗽

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +2

      @@michiganjack1337 Oh no! Now I don't know that one😳😁 But, grew up with heavily filtered t.v., so I'm sure I missed a lot. But I'm relieved to not be the last person on earth to know the Sure commercial😂

    • @mayflowerpdx5706
      @mayflowerpdx5706 Před 3 lety +2

      I mentioned Led Zeppelin at my work and I got a puzzled “who are they?” response. ☠️

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mayflowerpdx5706 Oh no.....🤦 I mean, some things are locked time, others are timeless. Well, I guess at least we know good things when we see or hear them😁

  • @AnAppleWithEyes
    @AnAppleWithEyes Před 3 lety +61

    This episode is straight FIRE

  • @chrissyknowsitall5170
    @chrissyknowsitall5170 Před 3 lety +23

    I grew up by a guy who loved these cars. Always had like 3-4 of them. I grew up during the 70's so I remember everyone having a Pinto.

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 Před 3 lety +3

      They were great little economy cars, if they had the plastic shield installed...

    • @johnmcmullen456
      @johnmcmullen456 Před 2 lety +1

      @@davidhollenshead4892 True! This a very biased video. The fact is independent testing showed the Pinto to be no more dangerous in a rear end collision than its competition.

    • @johnmcmullen456
      @johnmcmullen456 Před rokem

      @megatunnage1 A 1990 study by UCLA found the Pinto to be no more dangerous than other subcompacts of its time. A NHTSA study of 1975 & 1976 death rates for 7 subcompact cars showed the Pinto in the middle, far less than the VW Bettle & Datsun 1200/210, slightly more than Vega & Gremlin. Also interesting that testing was rigged to try to show how explosive Pinto rear end collisions were, including ramming the car below the bumper and using igniters, like the Dateline news show did to "prove" how Chevy pickup truck side gas tanks mounted outside the frame easily exploded in a collision. An unrigged rear end crash test of several subcompacts including the Pinto resulted in only one gas tank explosion, a Japanese car. I am in no way defending Ford's actions, especially when a $11 fix apparently made a big difference, but the bias against the Pinto isn't deserved.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Před 3 lety +35

    CHRISTINE: I'm in a movie about me killing people.
    PINTO: What a coincidence! I'm in a spoof comedy movie, too!

  • @johnnyonthespot4375
    @johnnyonthespot4375 Před 3 lety +48

    I owned an Orange Pinto with a 4 speed back in the early 80's and I still remember being so proud of the
    EQ & cassette deck I installed below the radio. That was right about where the pride stopped however.
    Although it never exploded I can assure you that comfort & quality were never considered in that 2000 number.

  • @ArcherSuh4721
    @ArcherSuh4721 Před 3 lety +54

    When I saw the title, I immediately thought, "TOP SECRET!" Weird History never disappoints!
    I hope they do a video on the Yugo!

    • @MrPGC137
      @MrPGC137 Před 2 lety +4

      Old joke about the Yugo at the time:
      Q: What do they call shock-absorbers on a Yugo?
      A: Passengers.
      😁

    • @dalevackar182
      @dalevackar182 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MrPGC137
      Q. Do you know why they made Yugos?
      A. So people that drove Chvettes would have someone to laugh at.

  • @ZZZardoz762
    @ZZZardoz762 Před 3 lety +30

    I learned to drive a stick in a '72 Pinto station wagon. That thing was a ton of fun to drive, and did surprisingly well offroad.

  • @komi-sanmustbeprotected5665

    Ah yes the classic "you won't have to worry about repair costs cause it'll be a write off or you'll be dead" method of car manufacturing

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile Před 3 lety +17

    2:20 "one that would explode onto the scene."
    Oh boy the explosion jokes just keep coming.

  • @JesusLopez-lc9oh
    @JesusLopez-lc9oh Před 3 lety +37

    Weird History is great this one was cool. Don't forget the gremlin or the pacer

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +2

      Sheesh, my mom had a Pinto with a hole in the floor when I was a baby, and my mother in law had a Gremlin. Amazing my husband & I survived long enough to meet😆

    • @troubledsole9104
      @troubledsole9104 Před 2 lety +1

      Or the Vega.

    • @jupiteral8217
      @jupiteral8217 Před 2 lety +1

      @@troubledsole9104 The Chevy Vega, probably the only car out there at that time that was a bigger piece of shit than a Pinto. With apologies to Yugos

    • @troubledsole9104
      @troubledsole9104 Před 2 lety

      @@jupiteral8217 Yeah, my brother had one. I also recall that the engine block was aluminum to save $$.

    • @jupiteral8217
      @jupiteral8217 Před 2 lety

      @@troubledsole9104 Yea it was aluminum. After 50K miles or less it was toast. My buddy had one that quickly spawned two softball sized rusted holes on both front quarterpanels on top. a real piece of shit

  • @galloe8933
    @galloe8933 Před 3 lety +19

    I once saw in a stack of old magazines from back in the day, a Nat-Geo from the 70s with an ad for a Pinto going for $1499 but also another ad in the same magazine for an old Camcorder that looked like a bulky VCR with a small CRT screen poking out the top, going for $2100. I know, a "portable" camcorder from the 70s must have seemed like a modern wonder taken from an episode of The Jetsons, but the price for the Pinto was kind of crazy in comparison.
    I don't know the actual date of the Mag, but if you asked me, it seemed like it could have gotten away with an extra $11...

    • @numerum_bestia
      @numerum_bestia Před 3 lety +2

      Some top of the line cameras today are still worth more than a lot of small cars.

    • @galloe8933
      @galloe8933 Před 3 lety +2

      @@numerum_bestia Right! And I saw an ad for a Xerox computer for over 7k in another magazine from the 70s, I miss the old mags, they even had an ad for a... "Holiday nut sack" in one, but in all honesty this was more a comment about $11 extra for a car.

  • @JimJones-gd2jy
    @JimJones-gd2jy Před 3 lety +47

    Learned to drive in a Pinto in 1978 when I was 15. I could have cared less if I was drive a Roman Candle, was a happy teenager ! Memories . .

    • @SoapinTrucker
      @SoapinTrucker Před 3 lety +3

      LOL I learned to drive in a 69 T-Bird in 79 at 16! :)

    • @jospi2
      @jospi2 Před 3 lety +7

      But 1978 wasn't such a good year for the other Jim Jones.

    • @portecrayon4083
      @portecrayon4083 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jospi2 wasn’t to good for more than a few of his followers either.

    • @5jump
      @5jump Před 2 lety +1

      @@portecrayon4083 Don't drink the Kool Aid

  • @imdquack
    @imdquack Před 3 lety +19

    My dad had a yellow Pinto in the late 80s. He hated the engine and decided he wanted something bigger. Slapped a 302 under the hood. I can remember the sound and feel of that engine. Came out of a highway patrol interceptor.

  • @jennyhegstad4986
    @jennyhegstad4986 Před 3 lety +13

    My mom purchased a red one 1970. She loved that car .Till we were in a huge pile up during rush hour Atlanta GA.

  • @littleNorwegians
    @littleNorwegians Před 3 lety +34

    Can't help but see the similarity between the Ford Pinto and the Samsung Galaxy 7 exploding,
    in the way that upper-management handled issues.

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Před 3 lety +4

      Ford knew before production started. I don't think management knew why the batteries would catch fire until well after production started.

  • @RM-ed1if
    @RM-ed1if Před 3 lety +3

    Loved the Pinto. One of my favorite cars. Drove one in the 70s all over Florida.

  • @ToniInSussex
    @ToniInSussex Před 3 lety +20

    I had a yellow '78 Pinto. I can't believe my father let me drive around in that thing but was told my car wasn't one of the exploding ones. I was young. Worst car? My brand new 11 miles on it 1990 FORD 'TEMPO'. It looked nice and was a cute little 4 door. We took good care of it but couldn't keep repairing it so only had for 7 years. Should have lasted longer. My friend had the same story. Don't see them running around anymore.

    • @mortimerjames218
      @mortimerjames218 Před 3 lety +3

      Omg, as having had a Tempo, I can confirm it was indeed the worst. My 1st car was a dodge omni & that was a BEAST! Lasted foreverrrrrr & so cute!

    • @ToniInSussex
      @ToniInSussex Před 3 lety +2

      @@mortimerjames218 I get it! Lol. Was a big joke for my late husband and I. THE TEMPO. 🤣😂🤣

    • @pcno2832
      @pcno2832 Před 2 lety +1

      I rented an early 1990s Topaz (the Mercury version) and the power seat control was right under the driver's knee (something I've never seen on any other car), so if you settled back into the seat, it started moving forward like a trash compactor. Now THAT car, unlike the Pinto, deserved to be recalled.

  • @davidpruiksma8014
    @davidpruiksma8014 Před 2 lety +5

    I honestly did not know the extent of this story but I had a 1973 Pinto until 1978 and it was one of the best cars I ever had. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Benni777
    @Benni777 Před 3 lety +4

    As someone from the Automotive Land area, I thank u for doing a Ford Motor company video! 🙏🏼

  • @CandiceBear
    @CandiceBear Před 3 lety +8

    My favorite car! 😂 My grandma had one when I was a kid. We called it the Pumpkin. My dad still has it and wants to fix it up. I told him I’d buy it off him when he’s done, I want that thing so bad!

  • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing

    As soon as I saw the title, I knew this video was gonna blow up

  • @MrDazana
    @MrDazana Před 3 lety +80

    Executives need to be held responsible for lives lost at the expense of saving money. They got away with murder

  • @coolbreeze5561
    @coolbreeze5561 Před 2 lety +6

    I had two Pintos over the years and would buy another one, they were good cars. What no one speaks about is the chevrolet vega was highly explosive as well.

  • @joy5816
    @joy5816 Před 3 lety +16

    I'm smarter than all my friends because of Weird History, I love this channel!

  • @NASCARFAN93100
    @NASCARFAN93100 Před 2 lety +1

    I love it when Weird History talks about cars
    And it would be even more awesome if Weird History talked about Motorsports and the history of Motorsports such as GRC, V8 Supercars, Formula 1, IMSA, IndyCar and Especially NASCAR

  • @FelisThis
    @FelisThis Před 3 lety +22

    This narrative is brilliant. 🥰

  • @aldemir6127
    @aldemir6127 Před 3 lety +12

    Those were the good old days for me, 1970s it was my first real job during the summer at the Ford Motor company Edison New Jersey.

  • @timhanna4700
    @timhanna4700 Před 3 lety +10

    First car was a 1976 red Ford Pinto hatchback with a 4 speed. Dog slow but she’d start in the dead of winter and never got stuck in Minnesota with 200lbs of bagged sand in the back. 😀

    • @Jason.cbr1000rr
      @Jason.cbr1000rr Před 3 lety +1

      R u old sir. Fantastic carbs are always reliable imo

    • @emmapeel8163
      @emmapeel8163 Před 3 lety +2

      that's the exact same car my dad bought. it was his 1st new car in USA.
      sitting in the folded down back & looking out the hatchback was thrilling.
      Dad put weights in the back too. but he still spun out on ice & totaled the Pinto.

    • @timhanna4700
      @timhanna4700 Před 3 lety +1

      @@emmapeel8163 great memories. I bought it from my parents for 300 bucks in 85. Moms first car she bought new in 76. Put 110 thousand miles on it until the clutch went. Now it’s part of a bridge somewhere I think. 🤣🤣

  • @PNWHerb
    @PNWHerb Před 3 lety +3

    I had a 73’ green big back window. Loved it. Got my first speeding ticket after I changed the carburetor.

  • @PurplePinkRed
    @PurplePinkRed Před 3 lety +140

    The "good old times" when cars were solid metal that crushed you to death instead of disintegrating plastic 🤣

    • @brucegwynn8509
      @brucegwynn8509 Před 3 lety +3

      Never happy , lol

    • @CosmicWaltz7
      @CosmicWaltz7 Před 3 lety +7

      That said, if running people over is your goal, they're great! Won't even leave a dent!

    • @mats7492
      @mats7492 Před 3 lety +8

      No seat belts or headrests..
      Where people that crashed just died!

    • @GoonieLord
      @GoonieLord Před 3 lety +2

      No airbags

    • @ol_gunner13b40
      @ol_gunner13b40 Před 3 lety +9

      Never had an issue pushing down trees with a pre-1965 car!

  • @zahara-
    @zahara- Před 3 lety +34

    Ah yes.. the classic “quantity over quality” mistake

  • @lovelesswing458
    @lovelesswing458 Před 3 lety +103

    My mom told me of a story where she had a crash in one of those things as a young adult. The brake stuck just as the video said and she slid into a tree and completely totalled the front end. Absolutely would have exploded if not for it being winter in Michigan which a ton of falling snow which she thinks cooled down the car from actually catching on fire, because it was absolutely freezing out with snow. At least that's what my mom thinks happened from her being burned alive that it was just that freaking cold and icy out. That and she got out right away, as it did spill gas and got far away from it just in case. Well never know if that was the reason or not, maybe she was just lucky, but thank God cause I would not have been born! Dangerous car! That and the Dodge Neon.

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +11

      Wow! God was looking out for her!

    • @jaymevosburgh3660
      @jaymevosburgh3660 Před 3 lety +8

      Well that was super lucky!
      No need to bring up any deity lol they had nothing to do with that.

    • @TheLakabanzaichrg
      @TheLakabanzaichrg Před 3 lety +2

      Op had the need, just as you had the need to be a lil bitch about it

    • @gohawks3571
      @gohawks3571 Před 3 lety +10

      @@jaymevosburgh3660 If I wanna honor God, I will! But I mainly wanted to appreciate the fact her mom was safe; that could have been such a terrible story. I'm glad she was ok 👍

    • @iriemonmon
      @iriemonmon Před 3 lety +5

      Thank God she's okay! That's absolutely scary and insane

  • @randykintzley5923
    @randykintzley5923 Před 3 lety +21

    You should cover the ignition key steering lock problem with GM a few years back. 45cents per unit or save lives? GM takes the 45 cents and then when they get caught they quickly switch in their first female CEO and say "Hey look!, We have our first female CEO! You guys wouldn't want to be mean to her and ask tough questions, would ya?

    • @andrewcolsen
      @andrewcolsen Před 2 lety +1

      Another Ford lover deflecting to GM.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 3 lety +13

    I remember when three women were killed in an explosion in a Pinto when it was rear-ended.

  • @SirKnight1096
    @SirKnight1096 Před 3 lety +6

    I was stationed in Hawaii. My first car was a Ford Pinto Station Wagon. Cost $50.

  • @littlehoss100
    @littlehoss100 Před 3 lety +1

    My wife and I owned a Pinto. I loved it. Very easy to work on. Handled well. Thank God we were never in an accident.

  • @runoflife87
    @runoflife87 Před 3 lety +15

    The funniest thing is they already had a decent compact car by 1970 - the european Escort.

    • @slkric1724
      @slkric1724 Před 3 lety +3

      I had one back in high school. I loved my Escort. It ran GREAT!

    • @runoflife87
      @runoflife87 Před 3 lety +2

      @@slkric1724 well Ford of Europe had a lot of good cars, not the ugly and gutless boxes.

  • @Father_Brother_Son
    @Father_Brother_Son Před 3 lety +9

    It's very fitting they showed a spoof of the Fight Club advertisement given that the main character played by Edward Norton in that movie explained this very same math behind his job at his company where they don't issue recalls for deadly Vehicles if they don't think it's financially worth it versus settling out of court

    • @machupikachu1085
      @machupikachu1085 Před rokem

      That part of the book was based on the Ford Pinto controversy.

  • @AI-MusicPlanet
    @AI-MusicPlanet Před 3 lety +5

    Ford Focus was the first and last Ford I ever bought. Bought it brand new...transmission went out within 6 months, then waterpump, then power windows.

    • @smolaether
      @smolaether Před 3 lety

      Must’ve been a faulty model. My 2013 Focus hatchback is still going strong to this day. Most reliable car I’ve had.

  • @howyoudurrinhunneh
    @howyoudurrinhunneh Před 3 lety +9

    How they remained in business is baffling. I grew up loving Ford, I inherited that love.
    I’ve bought 2 brand new and 2 used and loved them all, mostly. But the 2017 model I bought new soured me forever on Ford.
    So now that I was finally read to buy a muscle car and not spend tons on insurance and interest, I got a Challenger instead.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety +1

      In 1980, my Stepfather brought a 1972 Ford Maverick, it was a Lemon and he was screwed over because Ford didn’t bother allowing aftermarket parts for it. In September 1985 while in Boot Camp for the USCG, he purchased a brand new Ford Mustang Convertible on a lien, but he soon grew tired of it and missed 2 payments on it, so it got Repoed after just 90 days. He NEVER bothered with Ford ever again.

    • @socaljet
      @socaljet Před 2 lety +1

      from poular mechanics"Reports range from 27 to 180 deaths as a result of rear-impact-related fuel tank fires in the Pinto, but given the volume of more than 2.2 million vehicles sold, the death rate was not substantially different from that of vehicles by Ford's competitors."

    • @johnmcmullen456
      @johnmcmullen456 Před 2 lety

      @@socaljet That I believe, not this smear job of a video.

  • @OliverCaesar
    @OliverCaesar Před 3 lety +4

    The second rule of the pinto memo is: YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT THE PINTO MEMO.
    Wait... Wasn't this a subplot in "Fight Club"?

  • @tudeflaming4355
    @tudeflaming4355 Před 2 lety +3

    Actually my 73 pinto was a great little car for me. The engine was pretty much bullet proof for a teenager. Kinda wish I still had it.

  • @lesliedavid1244
    @lesliedavid1244 Před 3 lety +17

    The Ford Falcon station wagon wasn’t much different. We were rear ended and not only the gas tank fall off, 3 doors jammed.

    • @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD
      @MichelleIbarraMHAEdD Před 3 lety +2

      "Ford" kinda says it all....😒

    • @davidhollenshead4892
      @davidhollenshead4892 Před 3 lety

      @@MichelleIbarraMHAEdD Not really, as Ford didn't make cars like the F10, Corona, Civic CVCC, etc. some of these were ordered to be crushed by the US DOT...

    • @mattskustomkreations
      @mattskustomkreations Před 3 lety

      @@davidhollenshead4892 That sounds like urban myth. I’ve never heard of any crush mandates by the feds. Only of internal company mandates to crush show cars and test mules, etc. so they would not end up sold to the public.

    • @ferengiprofiteer9145
      @ferengiprofiteer9145 Před 2 lety

      Our Ford Falcon station wagon was awesome! Our favorite family car growing up.

  • @tigertalk2106
    @tigertalk2106 Před 2 lety

    This is the first time I heard some of the history of the pinto!! My graduation gift in 1979 was a Ford, Pinto. Metal flake royal blue, sun roof, white interior, the hatch was glass all the way down the back & had that new car smell. Around the 3rd week of January 1980 I was driving from Valley Center, CA to Escondido, CA. About a 25 minute drive. Leaving Valley Center to get to Escondido you have to drive down a steep down hill grade....someone had passed me & then slowed down in front of me, I instinctively slammed on the brakes as to not rear-end the car! The brakes locked up & the pinto began sharply fish tailing & I couldn't pull out of it! My ex grabbed the steering wheel yelling "turn into it!" pulling the steering wheel to the left....then all of a sudden the tires on the right of the pinto hit the birm (we were now facing the opposite direction) where the only turn out was on that down hill grade (the land in the rest of area was steep cliffs) then the car flipped several times crunching my side of roof about half way down then landing on its four wheels! We survived...this would injured my back pretty bad & had stitches in my right ear, my ex had pulled me out of the car, he was o.k., but I was taken to the hospital by ambulance! The article is in the Escondido Roadrunner, that's me being about to be put into the ambulance! How lucky we were not to go off the cliff or for the pinto to explode & no other accidents involved! But I question the brakes now!!! After hearing all this! (I was 18!) Thanks for the post! What was the final reason they stopped making them?!
    🥴👍

  • @orcaartist
    @orcaartist Před 3 lety +3

    That’s one extreme way of keeping tailgaters at bay. 🔥

  • @plainbrownwrapper9688
    @plainbrownwrapper9688 Před 3 lety +13

    I've always wondered if the Pinto was one of the first times the public was made aware how businesses place value to a life of their customers vs profits. I never understood how Ford did not go under and how they survived this PR disaster.....but the public continued to buy their cars. Now that's the real weird history behind Ford.

    • @plainbrownwrapper9688
      @plainbrownwrapper9688 Před 3 lety

      @@harryhanz1690 true but there wasn't an actual memo with value of life vs cost of repair involved with the corvair. It was more of a design flaw and improper tire pressures. The Pinto memo should of been a PR bullet due to the brazen calculations.

    • @FeedScrn
      @FeedScrn Před 2 lety +2

      The cheapness of the Pinto, and of other American cars... sadly almost forced the public to consider and to buy - Japanese competitors.

    • @pcno2832
      @pcno2832 Před 2 lety

      Every carmaker, in fact, the makers of EVERYTHING make such calculations. They would never sell anything if they added every safety feature money can buy. If the supposedly $11 part had been an option (maybe $30, with labor and all), and people were told it would reduce the danger of death by 27 in 2,000,000 cars, they probably would have spent the $30 on something else.

  • @jman4817
    @jman4817 Před 3 lety +24

    So great. My buddy had a Mercury Bobcat, Pinto's twin...and just as junky

    • @johnanderson1205
      @johnanderson1205 Před 3 lety

      You're right my mom had a Bobcat in the late 70's

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety +1

      Ford started to manufacture garbage after 1971. My Stepdad purchased a 1972 Green Ford Maverick from a neighbor as a 17 year old back in 1980. He brought it on a handshake deal. Turned out, not only was it his first car, it was also a LEMON with faulty carburetors. It died within 4 months and he spent the summer trying to find and order replacement aftermarket carburetors for it. All in vain. Turns out, Ford not only stopped making Mavericks 4 years prior, they didn’t bother to patent aftermarket parts. There was no way he could back order them.

    • @jman4817
      @jman4817 Před 3 lety +1

      @@plawson8577 Ford is coming out with a new Maverick but it is a small pickup. Why bring back such horrific memories through a name.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety

      @@jman4817 Ford stands for “Found On The Road Dead”.

    • @jman4817
      @jman4817 Před 3 lety +1

      @@plawson8577 haha! When I bought my wife's last vehicle, she said she did not care what it was as long as it was not a Ford! She grew up with some bad Ford's as well!

  • @thepaintingbanjo8894
    @thepaintingbanjo8894 Před 3 lety +1

    Exactly the kind of historical content I crave.

  • @NoPainLorraine1
    @NoPainLorraine1 Před 3 lety +1

    Owned a '78 Pinto wagon, standard. It was an oxidized flat pea green. In the winter it was Frozen Phlegm on Wheels. Hot pink fuzzy dice hung from the rear view mirror. I miss that car. Great memories.

  • @justas525
    @justas525 Před 3 lety +10

    I think once 90's are finished. The 70's will be next timeline series.

    • @WeirdHistory
      @WeirdHistory  Před 3 lety +4

      We shall see soon!

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 2 lety +1

      Rampant Cocaine use, Hardcore Conservative Censorship and Cancel Culture, Crass Consumerism, Disco, Hardcore Corporal Punishment, lame Television, smoking in Theaters, Uncontrolled Sexual promiscuity. Stupid gimmicks and fads, and Idiot Detectives that didn’t know their way out of a paper bag: That was the 1970s.

    • @some_metalhead
      @some_metalhead Před 2 lety

      *’90s *’70s

  • @ryproar11
    @ryproar11 Před 3 lety +5

    I'd love to hear about the Dodge Demon.
    The furious little car that went faster when you turned on the AC. 😆

  • @ThisIsJessPaul
    @ThisIsJessPaul Před 2 lety

    I love the Weird History narration/narrator: such fun storytelling.

  • @herekongato
    @herekongato Před 3 lety +2

    My first car was an mk1 ford focus, loved that little bastard

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments Před 3 lety +5

    Dear narrator…, would you please come to my funeral and read my eulogy?
    Preferably sooner than later.

  • @karm65
    @karm65 Před 3 lety +7

    you forgot the cast aluminum cross member that was prone to snapping in half at highway speeds. my mom had one and it almost killed her when it broke.

  • @deborahhiggins3071
    @deborahhiggins3071 Před 3 lety +2

    My first car was the bicentennial pinto and I loved it!

  • @bobbler2
    @bobbler2 Před 2 lety

    I think there should be more stories about cars that video was awesome!

  • @reconsoldier135
    @reconsoldier135 Před 3 lety +22

    Corporate greed at it’s worst, if you’ve seen Fight Club this story should sound familiar

    • @ragingjaguarknight86
      @ragingjaguarknight86 Před 2 lety

      Yup, the conversation that Edward Norton's character had with the woman seated next to him comes to mind. ^_^

  • @netrioter
    @netrioter Před 3 lety +7

    I had one with a 351C and a 4 speed. It was extremely dangerous (but fun) past half throttle.

    • @rtod4
      @rtod4 Před 3 lety +1

      I had a coworker who did a full build on his 4-cylinder, it was a dedicated race car. I don't recall exactly but think he was running 14 second quarters.

    • @portecrayon4083
      @portecrayon4083 Před 3 lety

      Sounds like a friends 62 falcon with a 429 cobra in it.

  • @manicmechanic448
    @manicmechanic448 Před 3 lety +1

    I knew a guy with an 80 Pinto, a few years ago. It still had the cigarette lighter gas tank, and had the most adorable little carburetor I've ever seen.

  • @andycraddock7677
    @andycraddock7677 Před 3 lety +6

    Somehow Agent Starling survived Buffalo Bill, Dr. Hannibal Lecter AND owning a Ford Pinto!

  • @mariawesley7583
    @mariawesley7583 Před 3 lety +4

    When I was a kid in the 70's we had an AMC Gremlin. Towards the end the driver's door only opened from the outside and the passenger door from the inside. My brother and I would climb in and out through the window. Finally it would only go into park and reverse. But we had great stories and the Gremlin and the Pacer will always be reminiscent of a specific time.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 2 lety

      I’ll always appreciate early Simpsons for referencing the AMC Gremlin.

  • @gaddyify
    @gaddyify Před 3 lety +8

    Ah yes, the Pinto. Ford's rolling bomb on wheels

  • @MrPGC137
    @MrPGC137 Před 2 lety +1

    I drove a '74 Pinto for a few years, after the problems with the gas-tank were corrected, but the car still had a lot of design-flaws. And I mean _a lot!_ For one thing, changing the spark-plugs for a tune-up wasn't the easiest thing in the word. Pulling 3 of the 4 plugs was simple & straightfoward, but the 4th plug, the one closes to the firewall, was a nightmare. Just above it was the input & output hoses for the heater-core, which made access to the plug with a socket-wrench virtually impossible without (a) draining the cooling-system and (b) removing the heater-core hoses & moving them out of the way. And you'd better pray that the new plug you put in was gapped properly, or else you'd have to repeat the whole stupid rigmarole all over again.
    But the biggest headache of all, the one that gave me no end of misery during the entire time I had the car, was the godawful vacuum-system. See, the car was built shortly after the new emission-control standards for cars went into effect, and to deal with them, the car's designers took a quick-and-dirty (very dirty) approach to solving the problem of positive crankcase ventilation, the result was a fiendishly complicated system of vacuum-lines running every which way all over various points of the engine, to suck out all the oily fumes of the crankcase-system & keep it from going into the atmosphere. Okay, fine. But the problem was when a leak appeared anywhere in that system (which happened with alarming frequency.) And it was never even a large, easily-spotted leak, either; usually it was nothing more than a tiny pinprick, not even detectable by human eye. Then the engine would run like crap, and you could either (a) spend days tearing your hair out trying to track down the leak or (b) in desperation you finally give in and take it to the mechanic and let them deal with the headache. Ultimately, I lost track of the number of times I ended up having to take it in to mechanics to deal with this same stupid problem. It was maddening.
    I mean, the car did have some good features. I liked the hatchback and the fact that the back seat folded forward, like in a station-wagon, which opened up plenty of storage-space in back. In that respect, it was for me almost the next-best thing to having a pickup-truck when it came to hauling stuff from the hardware store and the like.

  • @morrisgautreau6704
    @morrisgautreau6704 Před 3 lety +2

    All through the 80's, my dad drove a Pinto!

  • @melindakinnaird
    @melindakinnaird Před 3 lety +3

    How about a video on another Ford car, the Edsel?

  • @ethandixon6580
    @ethandixon6580 Před 3 lety +6

    Damn, I didn’t know a car could take Martyrdom as a perk

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis Před 3 lety

    Great video! 👌

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 Před 3 lety +2

    A highschool friend of mine had a brown Pinto. He drove it at least until he finished junior college, a total of about four years.
    Suggestion: The AMC Pacer, AKA The Mother Ship, AKA The Fish Bowl. So much glass!
    Another suggestion: Lowriders, especially Impalas. And also the history of the Lowrider culture.

  • @arcturionblade1077
    @arcturionblade1077 Před 3 lety +8

    My junkiest car was definitely a stock Dodge Neon. Glad I sold that clunker for $4K back in 2011.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety +1

      Mines was a 2008 Pontiac G5 Coupe. Motor blew out. This was only after 90 days.

    • @MMAfighter38113
      @MMAfighter38113 Před 2 lety

      The Neon and Metro were both pieces of crap

  • @ibtaba
    @ibtaba Před 3 lety +3

    I had a 76 Pontiac venture that constantly broke down and when it did run made terrible noises.

  • @MichaelWH
    @MichaelWH Před 3 lety +1

    I knew several people that drove one of these when I was a child in the 70's :) A few in my own family.

  • @HeadupGarage
    @HeadupGarage Před rokem

    This was a great video to get an ad from my local ford dealer

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc Před 3 lety +8

    Cheaper to pay off grieving relatives than to actually fix the flaw… putting profits over human life.

    • @JimJones-gd2jy
      @JimJones-gd2jy Před 3 lety +5

      Sounds like your describing the United States Military industrial complex . .

    • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
      @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing Před 3 lety

      @@JimJones-gd2jy You could describe ANY business in the US today like that. Of any size.
      From Bob's Neighborhood Bar to Goldmann Sachs, a good businessman never lets his customers health get in the way of his cash register with something silly like requiring masks to enter the premises. You might suffer a 5% dip in profits. Unacceptable. QUITE unacceptable.

  • @daveschmarder-1950
    @daveschmarder-1950 Před 3 lety +2

    Mr. Corvair says "hold my beer".

  • @jaeboston9228
    @jaeboston9228 Před 2 lety +1

    I remember in early 1971 there were Billboards all over the place for the Pinto. The selling point was they were only $1995. They were sluggish and had poor acceleration.

  • @annradwan2070
    @annradwan2070 Před 3 lety +13

    Worst car I ever had.....Ford probe. Had it 6 months every month in the shop. Eventually I wrecked it.....my family doesnt talk about the metal bass of death. (Called that because of how loud I had the cd player at the time of the crash. My fathers words were only "damnit boy, you can land a 747 on top of your car and you'd never hear it!!")

    • @iriemonmon
      @iriemonmon Před 3 lety +3

      The Ford Probe was a dark era for Ford lol just a very very dark era bc wtf were they thinking 😂

  • @coxmosia1
    @coxmosia1 Před 3 lety +18

    Now do a story on the AMC pacer. Practically made of all glass.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety

      Mom drove a 1978 AMC Hornet back when I was a toddler in 1984-1986.

    • @wrench31e22
      @wrench31e22 Před 3 lety +1

      @@plawson8577 I actually owned an AMC Hornet station wagon. Bought it for 100 bucks, drove it a year and got my money back at the scrapyard. It burned a couple of exhaust valves and fixing it would have been more than it was worth.

    • @plawson8577
      @plawson8577 Před 3 lety +1

      @@wrench31e22 She got the ‘78 Hornet from a friend. Knew nothing about Lemons and it turned out to be one. The Engine overheated and nearly burned out. But luckily a fellow middle aged USCG chief helped her out because he saw that she was a young single mother. He had friends who still worked for AMC, so they fully repaired for her for $300 and installed a Serpentine belt and Torque Converter as well as a Coolant Tank. She drove it for 2 years.

  • @mulematt6225
    @mulematt6225 Před 3 lety

    My sister in law had 2 pintos when my brother met her. (30 yrs ago) had them for a long time afterwards. One of the first cars i ever drove.

  • @javajive25
    @javajive25 Před 3 lety +1

    My one and only car crash was in 1983 when I wrapped my dad's 1973 Ford Pinto around a power pole. I remember sitting in the car after impact wondering if I were dead or alive and then thinking, "Shit! I'm in a Pinto! I need to get out of here before it blows up!" It was miraculous that I walked away from that crash and that the car didn't explode!

  • @sortedsortof3474
    @sortedsortof3474 Před 2 lety +3

    Our worst car that we owned was my wife's 1971 Chevrolet Vega. We had to replace the engine twice and the alleged 50,000 life of the air filter was closer to 3,000 miles and cost $50 to replace as opposed to the $3 paper filter replacement cost for my AMC Hornet.

    • @muffs55mercury61
      @muffs55mercury61 Před 2 lety

      Oh yeah. The first year Vegas reportedly started rusting out after just one year if you lived in the rust belt states. I dated a lady in 1987 who's mom had a '73 Vega. The car only had 30,000 miles on it (her mom was the original owner) and it used 1 quart every 150 miles.

  • @massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002

    My meth smoking uncle by marriage had a big blue one with a C B radio, he got a dui and sold it.
    He also had a shed that he spent time inside of it.
    Miss the 90s so bad

  • @adamandrews8534
    @adamandrews8534 Před 3 lety +1

    I owned 2 during my college years. The first was one of those exploding jobs; the second leaked oil continuously due to a problem with the cam. Crazy, but I still like Fords!

  • @knifetoucher
    @knifetoucher Před 3 lety +1

    Love dem car vids boyyyyy

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage Před 3 lety +12

    "Alright, Chris.. We're ready for your big trip to India. So.. we got a few ships here... um.. The Niña , the Santa Maria.. and.. um.. well, there's a choice on the third. We got a Pinta, and a Pinto."
    * explosion sound in the distance *
    "The Pinta it is!"

  • @sickoftheshit
    @sickoftheshit Před 3 lety +5

    My mom thought the Pinto was the coolest and we were all forced to learn to drive, in a Pinto, much to our utter and complete teenage humiliation. We carry the scars still.😅🤣😅

  • @toady525
    @toady525 Před 3 lety +1

    Though its been covered by many, Id definitely like to see Weird History’s take on the Delorean or the Gremlin!

  • @tacticalteddy5556
    @tacticalteddy5556 Před 3 lety

    I still have my 1980 4 speed manuel pinto with 82000 original miles. My grandfather bought it new and i learned to drive in it then 2 yrs ago my dad gave it to me. I love this car!

  • @alb5840
    @alb5840 Před 3 lety +3

    I think it actually looks nice from the outside. When it’s in good condition

  • @mocat1
    @mocat1 Před 3 lety +17

    I remember a teacher I had in high school, who told us one day how once his first kid was born, he decided he should trade in his ‘67 mustang, for a “nice reliable family car”. A pinto. 😂🤣
    Apparently his kids gave him a hard time on that error of choice whenever possible.

    • @AtomicReverend
      @AtomicReverend Před 3 lety

      It was actually a really reliable car. Videos like this give the car a bad reputation but it was only one problem and it had nothing to do with the reliability. All the car magazines in the 1970s gave it rave reviews and they compared it against the competition like the Chevrolet Vega Chevrolet Monza or the Toyota Corolla or the Nissan b210 and the pinto did better on just about everything in the head to head comparisons.
      Just as an example of the cars proven bits, the suspension design is still used today in the street rod industry they call it a Mustang II style front suspension.
      The 2.3 Ford engine was put into everything ford made in that era that got good milage, the Ford Fairmont, Ford Thunderbird, Ford Ranger and about every other small Ford made in the 1980s, the engine was so good the basic design was ran all the way till 2004 or 5 in the Ford Ranger pickup and was even used in countless boats, there was even a turbocharged version that came out in the 80s that went into the Ford Mustang SVO and it was the fastest fox body Mustang produced in that time frame.
      The Pintos only downfall was the gas tank debacle which was fixed by mid year 1975 but the damage was done to the cars image when the news broke in 1977.
      The Ford Mustang II, built between 1974 and 1978 was the same car underneath and it too had good reviews for its time frame and because the car was 8 or 9 in longer it was not involved in the recall as far as I know but it too was reliable.
      The reality is Ford did not make a bad product in the 1960s or 1970s everything they had was super reliable in their perspective time frame and I say that being more of a Dodge fan.

    • @ChipDip-wq8mi
      @ChipDip-wq8mi Před 2 lety

      I would’ve never done such a trade

  • @SurprenantJamesAB1DQ
    @SurprenantJamesAB1DQ Před 3 lety

    I had a 1980 Pinto, slow as hell, but really not a bad car - I loved it. FWIW the fuel tank defect didn't only affect the Ford Pinto - the design flaw also existed in other Ford products. If you look closely at the "Pinto Memo" you will see the calculation also includes the cost of repair per truck.
    Overall, great video, thanks WH - I love your channel - please do TIMELINE the 70S soon!

  • @Mr_Zx
    @Mr_Zx Před 3 lety +1

    You know, your channel lives up to the name. I didn't expect a car history video. I'm not complaining though I love top gear. Just don't let the narrator punch an inter please?