“We Shouldn’t Pretend That Our Country Was Built On Slavery Because It Wasn’t” Ian Collins
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- The UK’s economic success is the result of “British ingenuity and industry”, not colonialism, a Cabinet minister has said.
Kemi Badenoch, the Business Secretary, made the comments in praise of a book published by the free-market Institute of Economic Affairs think tank, in which political economist Kristian Niemietz claimed Britain’s growth was not financed by the slave trade or its imperial possessions.
Ms Badenoch, seen as a leading contender for the Conservative leadership should the party lose the coming election, said the book was “a welcome counterweight to simplistic narratives that exaggerate the significance of empire and slavery to Britain’s economic development”.
Anti-racism activist Maurice McLeod joins Talk’s Ian Collins to discuss this further.
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Perpetual victimhood is getting really silly now
Slavery still goes on in Africa today but nobody is even thinking about it let alone talking about it?
sex slaves are in a street near your house in the UK as you rant on about other continents.....
Where in Africa? Give details
(Edit) giving you enough time to complete your google search
So fricking bored of this with these people crying over crappie that has never happened to them personally. Don't see them crying at the Arabs or the turks or the Africans
If people truly cared about slavery, they should be campaigning to end it in the places in this world that it still exists!!
OK... Let's say then that Britain benefitted from slavery... As did the Nazis in Germany, the Communists in Russia, the Japanese in China, the Arabs over Africans and Europeans, certain African tribes over other African tribes, the Romans, the Egyptians... The question is this... WHAT DO YOU WANT THE WORLD TO DO ABOUT ALL THESE INJUSTICES NOW !!
@@peterholden3672 More recent than the UK... 80 years as opposed to hundreds... There are still people alive today who were affected whereas no one is alive today who was affected by the trans Atlantic slave trade... If you're going to go back in time hundreds of years... Why not thousands ? Where does it end ?
This country was built on ingenuity. Smart people invented machines that enabled Britain to take the lead in the Industrial revolution. That's what this country was built on.
From our Enlightenment, the industrial revolution, engineering, education, infrastructure, science and technology, not to mention the great art, literature, music and theatre. Brits here for centuries created our nation - there were no hoards of slaves building the country! Our people sweat their hearts out and were exploited, this guy is the perpetual victim & can barely admit any other suffering that people have gone through.
Any respect for fellow black people from Africa. Help to stop the present African slave trade. 0.&% of Africans are present slaves. 200 years ago. Britain spent 2% of their GDP to fight and stop slavery being traded on the high seas, which cost British lives.
did britain fight to "stop slavery" in he US and the Caribbean----do you have any historical evidence ..??!
@@D-E-S_8559Britain certainly did plenty to end slavery. Do you have the evidence to refute history that they DIDN'T?
@sillyshazzie
Yes! History clearly shows that African slaves continued been trades between the British Carribean colonies and America-that is a historical fact and my family is the evidence....
So, how did the British “stop slavery“, and where in particular. White people wrote a lot of "history", much of what they wrote was debunked propaganda, the British were rivals to the Portugese, Spanish and at times the Dutch and often engaged in acts of sabotage in their marchantile interest and profits, not for moral or ethical reasons...
Beggars have no shame.😊
The race grifter knows the gig's up
History would disagree
@@run2cat4runIslam/Arabs, 800 years before Europe arrived.
@@run2cat4runso what ?
@@run2cat4runthere is one group Africans are scared of and that's the a..bs that's they would never broach that subject.
Another grifter coming out the woodwork
That grifter works and pays tax u knob
There actually HAS been public apologies here in the UK when slavery was banned…. That’s conveniently forgotten though.
Europe made money cold hard cash,did not see you White folks complaining when Britain paid off its slave owners
They want £££££££. None of this working for a living thang.
Save Britannia from Islam and Marx 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Who is meant to apologise? Everybody who owned slaves back then is dead. So how can there be apologies? Unless they plan to get out the Ouji board. Any apology would be meaningless, it's just words if the person uttering them didn't do anything to apologise for. The calls for apologies are meant to lead to one thing - reparations, as once an apology is made the person making has taken responsibilty for something that happened hundreds of years before they were born. Is Dr Shola willing to apologise and pay reparations to those Africans that her ancestors enslaved and sold? At least, in Europe and the US, some of the money made from the industries that may have arisen from the profits of slavery eventually trickled down to raise up the working class from the drudgery they were mired in. What happened to the profits made by those in Africa who captured and sold the slaves to the Arabs who then sold them to the Europeans? No sign of it improving the lives of the common folk there. Slavery in Africa and in parts of the Middle East continues to this day...why don't these anti-slavery activists go and do something about that? They won't because they see the West as weak and overwhelmed with liberal ideas that they think they can exploit to 'get rich quick'.
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Well said 👏
What a massive chip this man Maurice.McLeod has on his shoulder.Must be heavy carrying it around.Time to let go of the past and move on
that paleman is an embarrassment to his-own thoughts----never thought i'd ever witness a grownman speak as if their own words are turning into bowels in his mouth, i was afraid he'd choke live on tv, the mumbling was copious..
Won't stop the NT, KC, BBC etc. hand wringing. The 'narrative' is more important than reality
If the wealth of slavery was felt in a country that bought slaves, why is Africa so poor?
@@peterholden3672 You are right. I did not word that correctly However, the argument still stands in terms of if slaves made you region rich then why is Africa as a region so poor. They sold slaves to us and still sell slaves today.
Because people come in to protect but are really stripping the land of minerals and oil
@@lorabox6879 Thanks to the Chinese and the Green Agenda
@@lorabox6879 People came here to strip too. We overcame.
And Saudi Arabia. They were the big buyers and sellers.
The victimhood here smells rife.
See a lot of that from the fae right
Islam/arabs 800 years before Europe and continue to this very day.
@@peterholden3672yes when you save them from having their privates removed give them health care education work, then go on to abolish it while Arabs continue selling them and removing private parts for 1400 years, it even says Allah most hateful creation a black man and 2 for 1. I can keep going...
@@peterholden3672yes when you fought against the creators to save them from being castorated and treated like cattle.
@@run2cat4run could you give us some examples please?
Collective punishment of non guilty people for things done to other people hundreds of years ago is ONLY acceptable in one situation….. we can all see what that is.
Im half Irish and im sure if i go back long enough my family was abused somewere so can i have some money pluss what about people who were drafted to fight in 2 wars can they get reparations for being forced to risk or lose there lives
Irish people were enslaved too, look at all the suffering they endured. I'm half Irish too, but when I go back, it's like the third world. Too many are in gangs of immigrants and are hostile to indigenous people. This guy is a pain in the ass.
Victimhood on a spectrum.?...😅😅👍
If people dont like Britain then move i dont care about colour i care about the future and most slave owners were rich and powerful and MPs so if reparations were considered then the average tax payer's shouldn't pay anything,
Whites have also been enslaved, but no one talks about that
The people who worked in mills were also abused and had no rights. Wages were a pittance and they employed women mainly as they were cheaper.
Anyone playing a victim of slavery from hundreds of years ago, prove it because you where not there and neither where we.
So should millions of us that dress up as 18th century pirates that were involved in the slave trade be condemed for dressing up as them at pirate festivals??!
we were fed to the lions were they
He really wants his handouts. Gimme that money !
Talk about a sweeping statement Ms.B. Claiming that Britain didn't benefit from the colonies and slavery is a bit like the naziis claiming that they didn't didn't kill anyone in ww2
Our poor people were put in workhouses and families split up
This man proven perfectly, how even when we talk civilised, and straight forward, still the racist comments come out😂
What’s white or black got to do with it
Show him the money.
Many ship intercepted by the British Navy at the time found that the ship was registered in Portugal because they ran the slavery ship, many of these ship were destined to the USA slavery trade.
Always the victims , and as for boosting the industrial revolution grow up . start hounding other countries not the one that put an end to slavery . you know im proud of what this country did for the world . what as Africa done ?
Though slavery was bad in all forms, and I say this as an AA, slavery didn't last as long as what peasant and serfs had to endure for centuries. we black folk need to understand this. being born a privileged hue at certain periods in time meant nothing if you were no born into royalty.
There were 43,000 slave owners in the uk who between them owned 800,000 slaves in the carribbean
Show the proof of that statement.
Personally I just reject this notion that weakness and victimhood equals virtue. Slavery was an almost universal human institution back then and I am glad that our ancestors were doing the enslaving instead of being the slaves. At one point in time North African's were carrying off cornish and irish villagers into slavery. We really need to stop apologising for the fact that life is struggle and that there are winners and losers.
Does lifestyle being in the uk is also living on that history or is he prepared tp give all that up..just asknig
Why do ‘anti-racist’ activists try so hard to perpetuate racial differences? Instead of finding and promoting common denominators that unite all races.
Yes look up British empire
Why you speaking about this topic and a man has just killed a boy and injured police and other members of the public and a community is in fear what a distraction
🤣😂 - its defo an election year cuz I don't understand why this research suddenly surfaced
Missdemenor? 😅😅
Mate, get educated. Chatting pure Horlicks.
In a world where knowledge is readily accessible, there is no excuse for the sheer cavalier vacuity exhibited by the host of this programme and many others with a mere superficial knowledge of the deleterious impact of European slave trade on Africans. The least he could have done was to acquaint himself with a basic understanding of the complexities of the subject he chose to discuss. The European slave trade from West and Central Africa to the Americas and New World plantation slavery lasted for a period of four hundred years because of the significant profits realized to plantation owners and to the British economy. New World Plantation Slave is absolutely responsible for the economic dominance of Britain during the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. New World plantation chattel slavery was no eleemosynary, it is widely considered to be the most horrendous and barbarous episode of inhumanity in the whole of human history. Of late, i have heard the following remarks about the European slave trade and New World chattel slavery from those hell bent on minimizing them : "It happened a long long time ago" "The victims are all dead and you guys need to move on" "Britain was the first country to abolish the trade" "Thousands from the Royal Navy died while enforcing anti -slavery laws" "We shouldn't be living our lives by something that happened hundreds of years ago" Let me address the aforementioned. In order to understand the prevalence and virulence of modern anti-black variant of racism, it is necessary to return to its ontogenesis in New World plantation slavery. Pseudoscientific and theological justifications for slavery were birthed on the slave plantations of the Americas. African women experienced horrendous and barbarous sexual violence, when they were raped on an industrial scale by European plantation owners over four hundred years. Britain did not abolish the slave trade and slavery out of humanitarian concerns, it was largely due to economic considerations that led Britain to abolish the slave trade and slavery. The British economy was moving from mercantile capitalism to industrial capitalism and the slave trade and slavery were obstacles to that process. There is much guilt surrounding the slave trade hence, there appears to be justification for it in the remark "it was common throughout the world at that time" and minimization of it in the remark "it happened a long time ago hence it is not relevant today" The aforementioned are just ridiculous guilt mitigation techniques.
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@unclem7816 brilliant bedtime reading, I fell asleep 😴 💤 half way through 😂
In world where kn
Who are we supposed to apologise for or to? All slavers and slaves from the trans atlantic trade have been dead foe hundreds of years. Utter nonsense. Get over yourself mate.
Ian we are bored with these clowns and stop giving them airtime
Coulsdon built his entire fortune off of the backs of the slavetrade that is how he made his entire fortune,hence why the statue came down,this country Spain france benefitted the most out of the slavetrade
what a load of tosh.
😂😂😂😂😂… Great Britain was built on the back of slavery ….. check out the university’s… churches …. You are asking why we are talking about it …. We’re talking about it because it’s our history… & our ancestors… stop making excuses
So why did we , and only us end it. If we were mad for it.
🥱 , get a grip and life instead of living in the past i have zero guilt and heres my repatriations,🖕
you should tell the guest about slavery still going on in sudan and tbe middle east
What is the UN definition of slavery?
Essentially, it refers to situations of exploitation that a person cannot refuse or leave because of threats, violence, coercion, deception, and/or abuse of power.