NH Flying Tigers - This is for You - P40 Cockpit Flight
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- Join Jeff Ethell in the pilot seat of this P40-E Kittyhawk and learn first hand what it's like to fly this WWII war-bird. As a former member of the NH Flying Tigers R/C club, I thought this would be a great video for the club to share. This video is from a 1990 video entitled "ABC wide World of Flying" that I bought at the CAGS' auction.
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I was recently in Yunnan, China. These planes and their pilots are near mythic there. You see P40 sculptures everywhere and the Americans are memorialized right next to the Chinese soldiers in their memorials to the "anti Japanese war". It is quite moving. I have photos of American graves with fresh flowers leaning against them.
Tosten l am glad to hear that.
Jeff Ethell's narration and confident handling of this P 40 makes this one of the best warbird videos on CZcams.
What a great "checkout" flight video!!! The great Jeffrey Ethell in his prime!!! He was taken from us way too young!!!
I could listen to jeff talk warbirds all day!
Jman
My favorite warbird... 😎
Jeff Ethell. Really miss this guy. He was really cool and knew his stuff.
I know , he’s one of my favorites.
What happened to him?
RIP my friend.
I loved Jeff Ethell, RIP
so sad, .......really miss... jeff ethel................he is sorely missed....
This was a treat for me to watch when I'd spend the weekend at my grandfather's....watch it probably 23 plus years later and understanding the pure beauty of this machine is mind blowing
Awesome video, thanks.. I am blessed to be a good friend of a man (94 in 2015) in a Vet home in Colorado that flew 188 missions in this plane around China and that whole theater of operation. his stories are priceless and even his hands are curved like they are still holding the stick.. with a grip if a young man... Met when visiting my great aunt in same home and have been thoroughly honored and blessed to know another of the Greatest generation like my dad, (European theater - master Sargent) Uncles, ("snoop n poop" thru France, EU and another a B-17 pilot flying over EU) all gone. again honored to know him and be his friend... I'm showing this video to him this week, he'll get a hoot outA it..
my gramps was with them 95yrs old.Were in So.Calif
I don't recall Ben Affleck or Josh Hartnett doing any of that pre-flight stuff prior to taking off in "Pearl Harbor"...
LOL
The absolute worst "war" movie ever made.
They were like Fake News
Love this video. thank you. My father, Walter"Bud" J Dolan, was a crew chief with the 1st pursuit squadron of the Original AVG aka Chennault's Flying Tigers. I will have to get to Geneseo soon to see the "old bird".
Bravo! Very interesting! Learned a lot in this short video!
I haven’t seen any of Jeff Ethell’s vids in years. I used to watch him on the old Wings TV show. This guy could fly everything. RIP Jeff.
What a personable guy and extremely skilled pilot this man was.
My Dad used to play golf with one of the AVG Flying Tigers that flew the P40 in China, a really great guy also.
I've always loved the P40E and P40F as well as a host of others including the P51D Mustang.
As a kid growing up in the 70's, I can still remember a TV commercial for a breakfast serial or something with a guy wearing a cowboy hat that flew a P51D Mustang which had been converted into a crop duster in the Mid-West someplace, there were still a lot of them flying every day then (many as crop dusters) and there were warehouses everywhere filled with inexpensive Military-surplus spare parts. Great video, thanks for posting...
Awesome video. One if my favorite WWII aircraft.
Wow! I love this video! Very informative and filled with tons of great footage. Thanks for posting.
I loved every second of this video. If I could I'd give 10,000 thumbs up, thank you for the share!
I'm glad you liked it. Back in 2006 I was working at a remote control airplane auction and they had set up a corner where people could sell items too small to sell at auction. At the end of the day, those guys didn't want to take those items back home with them so they where giving things away for free. I grabbed a pile of old VHS tapes. I think I gave the guy a couple of bucks for them (CRS!). This video was one of the little treasures I found on one of them.
@Mike Gee I don't think he said he didn't like the P51. He was simply comparing the sesitivity of the control surfaces. If you ever saw the movie "Rising Sun", the kid called the P51 the "Cadillac of the sky".
@@shakazoe The "Myth of the P51". The German Pilots (the experienced ones that were left not the barely trained pilots which the Mustang would encounter) said both the FW190 and the Bf109 could outmaneuver a P51 in a dog fight. The P40 could turn inside a P51. The P51 major attribute after the Packard built Merlins were installed was speed, fuel economy, it would work on the substandard aviation fuel in the ETO, and altitude, plus the aircraft was cheaper to build than the P47 or P38, the flight systems required less attention of the pilots, and the replacement pilots had better and longer training. P51's major vulnerability was its liquid cooling systems vulnerability to ground fire (ground attack) or loss of coolant in combat from flak at altitude or enemy fire and the engine quickly seized. And for the record, with or without drop tanks, the always P-38 had a longer range than the P-51, including the D variant. The P-51's roll rate was better than the earlier P-38 (worse than the P-47) until the hydraulic assisted controls of fitted to the P-38-25 debuted. However, the P-38 could turn inside a P-51 in the hands of an experience pilot. P40 pilots likened the P-51 to a Super P40, but those who had flown P-38's often preferred the longer range and concentrated fire power, and yes, for the experienced pilots. Several videos of P38 pilots used the same, "Cadillac of the Sky,' in their interviews. The P-51 was a great plane, but in The Football War in Central America between El Salvador and Honduras, the Corsair pilot Captain Fernando Soto and his wingman Captain Edgardo Acosta engaged two Salvadoran TF-51D Cavalier Mustang IIs, Soto entered a turning engagement with one Mustang and blew off its left wing. Capt Soto later was involved in a Corsair vs Corsair fight and shot down his opponent.
Excellent, mate thank you ..! Nice, no nonsense and confident explanations and execution...
Fantastic video. Excellent pilot.
Thanks for this great video.
Quite interesting I thought. A lot of information coming across in a relaxed and practical setting.
The shark mouth really fit the p40 well. Very menacing look
I suppose that's what made it so well known. I'll bet it struck fear in the Japanese pilots too.
That was a great video narration.
Even though the cockpit is very... very noisy the intercom is cracky but ..... man ... it’s AWESOME! . Thanks for a good ride sir.
Thanks for the flight and overview. Appreciate all the real information here. I'm never going to fly the real world P-40 but A2A Simulations have a P-40 module which I am using. Got to do what you can to keep the memories and history alive. S!
Complicated! As a kid, I loved reading stories about fighter pilots in WW II. I have an even greater appreciation now that I've seen/heard everything the pilots had to do to fly those warbirds. I think my first model airplane I ever built as a kid was a P-40. Those shark mouth decals sure looked great!
Beautiful aircraft.
There are SO many beautiful WW2 era planes. The P40 and the B17 are my 2 all time favourites. Ill never get to fly one. This video is as close as I can come,except my R/C P40! 😆
Thank you for this video.
shakazoe thanks for sharing! I'm a former member of the Princeton Flying Tigers in Minnesota 👍😆
RAF pilots who flew the P-40 liked it better than they did the Hurricane and the Germans were more afraid of it.
Awesome P40.
I still remember karaoke nights at Joe's place. Your still missed by us old pilots at Lee. Hanging out with Boots and Andy such great times.
Wife and I met a Mr Rosholt in Rosholt, WI in 2004. He spoke Mandarin Chinese and did Intelligence work with the Flying Tigers. After WWII, he maintained the FT's newsletter. We bought his book about the FT. A real gentleman.
My uncle joined the army in 1938, he was 16. At 19 he was a captain in the AVG flying in Burma before Pearl Harbor. He flew all throughout WW2 and the Berlin Airlift. After the war no airline would hire him, not even Flying Tiger Air Freight. He had no highschool diploma.
Mike Buttfild There's gratitude for ya! (BASTERDS)
My dad flew one of these aircraft 76 years ago in North Africa. I'm sitting with his logbook. Awsome video - just what I was looking for to try to experience just a little of what Duncan had.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Aren't you glad I rescued that video from an old VHS tape? I was wondering if your Dad did any flying as a civilian.
My Dad flew a P-40 in N. Africa and Sicily-- wounded at Messina. Go Warhawk 1943!
How right you are, The Greatest Generation!
Glad you enjoyed the video. My Dad was a WWII Navy man. He passed away last March. He tried to join when he was 17 but the recruiter told him to come back when he was 18. So he walked around the block and went back in and told them he was18. He served on a destroyer for a short time then spent the rest of the time on an LST.
Did they not have ID checks back then???
Also, isn't there a thing allowing you Americans to join the military at 16 with parents' signed approval?
I went in the US Navy in 1977, when I was 17.
shakazoe my step fathers father flew a P-40 and was killed in 1943 in the pacific theater.
Franklin Wells Butterfield joined the marines right after Pearl Harbor, he was 14 years old. He served with Carlson's Raiders in the Solomon Islands.
my gramps was a welder in AirForce stationed in India.He was under Gen.Channault and worked everyday with FlyingTigers.Hes a very healthy and happy 95 yrs.old .Hes got some awesome stories.
A scant 30+ years from man's first heavier than air powered flights. Amazing feats in aircraft designs had been made.
Very well that men learned on a stepped aircraft training regimen before jumping into front line fighters.
Few would have survived.
I miss Jeff Ethell.
Jeff I missed singing karaoke with you.
Love P40’s. I think the prettiest ww2 plane made. Ow yeh tiger paint is tuff too
Thanks
Brettt 777, Your simulator trim is correct on the trim direction.. The indicator wheel turns in the opposite direction of the crank.. I don't have a P-40, but I do have a working trim mechanism from one and so this is how I know.. --Dan
Great video these Tv shows were not available here at the time, Jeff's presentation is so good that I feel I could jump in and go(Wrongly of course don't have anyT6 time is a understatement). To spoil the ending of Jeff's career, he died in a P38, I believe in the late 90's.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know that about Jeff. Well, his legacy lives on in these videos.
Jeff will be missed. His death is a tough reminder of how challenging these old birds can be to fly and how they often don't forgive mistakes. The P38 could be a handful, especially in an engine out scenario where procedures called for the opposite of what you do on any other twin engine airplane.
Spasibo!
P40 lovely aircraft.
Gosh I envy that guy.
"To the P-40C they were called Tomahawks, the Ds and Es were Kittyhawks and then the P-40F and subsequent models it was changed to Warhawk".
WRONG, or not so accurate at least.
P-40Bs and Cs were called "Tomahawks" by the British if I am not wrong, while in the US army these versions had no nickname.
From the P-40D to the P-40N, all P-40s in service for the RAF and RAAF were called Kittyhawks (Mk.I to Mk.IV), while in the US army they were called Warhawks, so it pretty much depended on the army for the P-40 to get one nickname or another.
As for the rest, great video indeed, and I am glad to have found it again, because I suspected that they removed it from CZcams.
Jeff Ethel was killed 20 years ago this summer demoing a P-38.
Hermoso
'Preflight - Oil cooler gills open'
OK, I can now start up a P-40, probably made in my hometown Buffalo, NY? takeoff and landing, not so much...
Regarding the spin charistics of the P40, there is a procedure for spin recovery. When entering a spin in the P40, "the aircraft will have a tendency to rotate around the pitch axis. the recovery involves neutral control inputs, and "going along for the ride" After approximately 12000 feet altitude loss, the aircraft will gradually come to a stable nose down attitude, and a normal dive recovery can be executed.' "I guess it's a given in this procedure that you have about 14000 feet altitude AGL when you enter the spin!
I think this is probably why the manual states that "Spins are prohibited"
Ima Paine-diaz Alas, when a P-40 goes into a spin it is or has
been described as being " very violent ". The event as reported
by pilots who survived, " you have to get her under control by the
second revolution or your going to be in real trouble." I read about
an RCAF pilot who came out the other end of a spin whilst flying
a P-40. He gained control at 5,000 ft. He didn't like the P-40 as a
result of that. He went on to become a Typhooner, and made it.
Either get her by revolution # 2, or get the hell out asap.( i later
came across a video of the above mentioned pilot. He spoke of
the " spin" in more detail, citing he was @ 20,000 ft and stalled
on top of a loop. By the time he got down to 5,00 ft, the aircraft
began to come under better control due to thicker air. By the time
things settled down, he was " clipping the blue berries ".)
20:23 Louigie of Mario Brothers. 😆
You know as a 90’s presentation, I can’t lie it feels right
The magic phrases for the P-40? The -39 engine could handle up to 75" hg & then "low yo-yo" to surprise any Zero or ME-109.
William Barnett-Lewis As you have noted, that is indeed true. The foe going up against a well handled P-40, had as much chance as a fart in a hail storm. Cheer's man.
Lucky. The P-40E below 10000 could out perform the P-51. What has got me is why the P-40 wasn't used in the Pacific more. It was armored 6 50 calibers and did in fact take on everything the Japanese had.
Thats my understanding too.
When the airplane was being replaced by the P-51 in S.E. Asia, many pilots asked--"WHY?".
Was just equipment standardization , I think.
Best strafing machine ever.
would it be safe to say, in terms of maneuverability, that the p-40 was one of the most underrated fighters of the war?
Let me preface by saying that this aircraft was ready for the bone yard when the war started. It was the pilots' skill that made it so successful. They couldn't out maneuver the Japanese planes so they learned to climb above them then swoop down for the kill. It was a very successful strategy.
Zoom attacking is the very definition of outmaneuvering and was the absolute best fighter tactic employed by every nation during WW2, including Japan who used it against completely outdated fighters that relied even more on antiquated turn fighting. Generally speaking, it'd be more accurate to say the Zero couldn't outmaneuver the P40. Chennault would never have traded his 40's for Zeros or Oscars, which is telling to say the least. He would've used the Zero in the exact same role he had planned on using the CW-21: to intercept camera planes that the 40 couldn't climb to fast enough.
sidewinderl the fighters at the beginning of the war were mostly turn fighters. They were hybrid aircraft that had WW1 technology like wood in the frames, cross cabling, canvas, rifle rounds etc. These with a better engineered engine made it light and agile and perfect for sustained turn fighting. The reason it shifted to boom and zoom was because planes became heavier, with more and heavier armament and more powerful engines capable of higher altitudes.
The P-40 was one of the first B&Z planes, problem was it was misused at the beginning of the war. Pilots tried to dog fight with it in the European theater against fighters like the 109 and got their heads handed to them. That is the reason they pulled it out of Europe. It was the pacific theater that they learned how to use it properly.
YES . In the hands of the right pilot she was lethal .
Your missing the point . The P-40 had high drag characteristics limiting her straight and level flight speed . She can violently stall . In a dive you practically have to stand on the left rudder . She is a handful to fly .
But if you can master this airplane and exploit her excellent maneuvering capabilities , she is not the airplane that many history books says she is . That being a slow obsolete airplane . On the contrary . A pilot who knew how to exploit her good points had a deadly warbird in his hands . So much so , she knocked many Zeros out of the sky .
In her last variant , the P-40Q , she hit 422 mph . If Curtiss would have made an earlier effort to clean up her high drag areas , the modified P-40 would have been an extremely tough airplane to go up against in a dog fight for any airplane .
However , even at speeds of 375 mph , she was quite a contender when the right pilot was in her cockpit . History usually omits this fact , and that was my point .
Question about the P-40... I have two different versions of this plane in my simulator. I have noticed that the rudder trim knob appears to turn in the opposite direction of the trim you want. I.e. you want right trim for take off, you turn the knob to the left. Is this correct in the P-40 or are both planes in my simulator wrong?
Can't tell you for sure but there were a lot of changes to the aircraft over the years. There were some P-40's that were specifically built for the RAF. They made some changes in the cockpit such as the British radio and such. It's possible that the Brits had a different trim but I can't confirm that.
did this dude do a lot of airshows back in the day? he looks familiar
Jeff Ethell killed flying a p-38 while his father a ww2 p-38 pilot watches on. Sad.😟
Spins are normal, 1000 ft per rotation.
Sweethart
That P40 was crashed landed in a corn field years ago in the 80-90's I believe ! Has it been restored yet and returned back at the Geneseo NY museum ?
No dc sold it years ago its not around any more
@@chadmayer1925 Sorry to hear that, thanks for letting me know.
But they do have the Memphis bell movie b17 there
And to tell you the truth i think dc passed away as well
Such as shame what happened to him in 1997.....
What year is this 1974 ?
1990
one person's grandpa flew a zero in ww2 lmao
P-40 = a rock with wings
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P 40 was a dog it could not dogfight a zero or a zeek ceiling was about 15000 feet , you wouldn't dare escorting B-17 bomber with one of them
Good thing reality ignores mythology like yours.
Hey Larry , eat your fries .
Nothing could dogfight a Zero except maybe a Hayabusa.
Or an old biplane.
@@2lotusman851 hellcat ,the great Marianna turkey we shot 300 zeros ,p51 p38 you be poor on history my man we didn't dog fight the zero we use other tactics fly down on them fast shoot climb turn around and do it all over again
@@46lfriesWe..? Do you were there? 😂
Clown 🤡
Dc Anderson witch was the original owner of that p40 use to fly over and fire of the machine guns with blanks and It pissed off a few people lol he crashed it twice and the second time it was to much for him to fix it and sold it I remember it and the sound of it was so cool to hear it fly over