The REAL Reason Americans Are Moving to Madeira, Portugal
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- Kalie from ExpatsEverywhere sits down with Alan from It'll Be Fun to talk about retirement and living in Madeira, Portugal. He, his wife, and their adult son moved to Madeira from the US and are loving the island life. Why did they leave the US? Are there a lot of Americans living in Madeira? Alan helps get information out to others about moving to Madeira. He talks about shipping items (including his car) from the US, if it ever gets boring, what to eat, if it's only for those retiring, and so much more.
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Bom dia! Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak with you about Madeira. We had a fantastic time while in Porto. Our new (2nd) favorite place.
Whats the name of the indian restaurant? Hehe
Thank you very much for meeting up with us. Sorry we froze you that morning. Funny enough is how it warmed up for the rest of the day. See you around Madeira at some point. 😊 We're glad you enjoyed it here in Porto. We'll take #2 for you guys. - Josh & Kalie
Keep coming and soon Madeira will turn into Detroit and Porto will become Philadelphia. Wherever Americans nothing good happens.
Three key historical barriers that make people worry about living on islands are not problems on Madeira: Transportation access, infrastructure and communications. Gone are the days of long passages or even long, expensive flights. Only a few years ago, even telephone calls would be expensive. But Madeira has an excellent airport with many regular cheap non-stop flights to dozens of European destinations, putting most European destinations 2-4 hours away . Internet service is blazing, with home service up to 500Mb available on most of the island, and cell service up to 1GB. The infrastructure is 1st world, with Switzerland quality tunnels connecting the areas of the island, a power grid running on almost 50% renewables, and a large university medical complex under construction. With the immense geological diversity on the island, it's hard to get bored with nature on Madeira.
As for easy travel to the rest of Europe, from mainland Portugal, sure, Spain and the rest of Portugal are right there. But travel to places like UK, France, Germany, etc are pretty far and people in Algarve, Porto, or Lisbon would often travel by air anyhow. You can do that just as easily from Madeira.
@@SallySparks The people and culture's ethos is the reason why convenience and amenities meet nature in such a way that Madeira allows itself the title of the garden of Atlantic.
The Portuguese are (for the most part) great custodians of their environment, which is why most of our electrical needs are already met with renewable sources.
I'm azorean and we're beginning to see more and more foreigners moving in to the islands too. Not just retirees, but younger people and even young families in search of safer and healthier communities to raise their families in.
We're still weighing the pros and cons of the situation, but I think that the scales are pending more in to the positive side of the process 🤔
It's true that we've seen the effects of so many people coming in at once. Specially in the housing and building market. Prices are rapidly increasing and that's scary for us that have been living here for our entire lives. It's scary and worrying. But it's also true that we needed this push! Not only for the local economy, but also for this whole new energy and movement these new residents bringing with them. We see musicians, plastic artists, singers, writers, photographers, scientists, brokers, people working with big companies, with e-commerce and so many other businesses and different experiences and projects, so many different ideas and ways of doing things and living life, such diversity and new opportunities! I think that we all have so much to gain from this that we should all make an even greater effort to solve the issues that may arise from all the changes that comes with it and try to make it work
It's going to be a negative effect. They are going to recreate what they are flying from, a shithole as the US.
Wow! True spirit of the Azores right there!
There is not a shred of Português in you. Why you feel the need to lie about your ethnicity is mind boggling.
I saw that Star Wars film crew is in Madeira to shoot some of the scenes. Fantastic scenery for the movie!👍
Yeah I also seen that
Great interview Kalie. We follow It'll Be Fun also. It's great to see fellow vloggers together! We're moving to Portugal in 2025, when I retire and are so looking forward to it. Planning an exploration trip next year. We may be calling on you and Josh for personal advice!
Hi Dan, thank you for the channel support! We love doing these kind of collaboration! It's cool to hear that you watch them too. Please contact us (info@expatseverywhere or www.calendly.com/expatseverywhere) when you need to schedule a call. - Josh & Kalie
Spent 4 days on Madeira last October and absolutely loved it. Would love to spend more time there.
Great to hear! Thanks for sharing, David. - Josh & Kalie
Great interview, Kalie! Great footage, Josh! Key questions asked and answered for those interested in Madeira. I really appreciate the information provided. Always detail rich with you guys. Well done, as usual. Your brand is solid! Love you guys! ❤😊
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the feedback, Mo. We were able to mixup the footage thanks to some assets from It'll Be Fun. Thanks for the love! - Josh & Kalie
Great video, Kalie! Very informative!
Thanks so much! We appreciate you watching all of our videos - Josh & Kalie
Madeira is spectacular. I went there in 2019 and again in 2020 right before the pandemic. It is one of my favorite places on earth.
Good interviewing, as in great questions!
Thanks for the feedback, Sam! - Josh & Kalie
Well done and covers all my questions.
Very informative interview! Madeira looks like a very beautiful place. Although, as a former expat myself, I'd say a year anywhere is still the honeymoon phase. It takes a few years before the negatives starting biting harder.
There are a lot more negatives to living in the US.
Thank you. Fair enough with your year is still the honeymoon phase point. Saudi Arabia and South Korea would challenge that theory at least for us. 😅 - Josh & Kalie
if u need several years to feel the negatives start to bite then probably the fault is yours lol.
Which countries have u visited please?
such an excellent q&a = great questions, stellar answers = obrigado!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the feedback. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere very welcome :)
great info! thanks!
Glad it was helpful! - Josh & Kalie
Great interview!
Thank you. - Josh & Kalie
I am here right now! Lovely island, very VERY steep roads, not many level/flat areas or handicapped access. Come with strong legs and good knees!!!
Was there in Sept. 2019 and found it charming w/ wonderful views. Wrote three travel articles about it. Great climate all year. I also stayed on Porto Santo
Go to Florida, yankee.
I'm from Madeira but living in Porto and can't spend a full year without visiting my beautiful island. Enjoy the island and please take care of it. Much love to all!
Thanks for the love! - Josh & Kalie
Alan, Leslie & Wolf, from the CZcams channel, "It'll Be Fun" are enjoyable to watch also! Their perspective on Madeira is presented in a very relaxed way. It's loaded with breathtaking views of Madeira, especially Levada walks. They also share realities about the island as well as all the wonderful things, which there are many! Lastly, they also have a thriving Patreon group of friendly people to be a part of.
Thanks for sharing your experience with It'll Be Fun, Chris! You sound like a Super Fan of theirs. That's cool. - Josh & Kalie
Thanks to you, I started 2022 in Coimbra (your vid of the studios). December 2022 was a month for my own country breaking record. I left Argentina the 22nd > Uruguay > Brazil > Lisbon > Coimbra (to leave my stuff) > Porto. I started 2023 in Funchal, IMHO it's even better than Coimbra. I spent a week in Santa Cruz, but it's too far away for me. Definitely, I fell in love with Madeira, and believe me, I have a lot of cities to compare with, UK and USA included. As Alan said, when I find my place, I'll buy something. Very informative vid, specially for me, the 20´ container info. ¡Thanks a lot!
@@skygblue6250 Yes, thank you. Mudslides, mainly. You must have a big banana tree near. Why? The roots are like an onion, so a landslide makes it fall. And bananas need a nice temperature
Great post, Teo! Really nice to read your journey. Thanks for watching and commenting. - Josh & Kalie
@@skygblue6250 Then stay in Florida. We don't want more Yankees here. Argentines are okay, very similar people, but Yankees have a different mindset, very harmful to our Islands.
Congratulations. Madeira beautiful island 🏝 Thanks for sharing
Bem vindos a Portugal 🇵🇹 super escolha ! Boa sorte ❤welcome to Portugal! Good choice! Good luck! 🍀
The island is certainly an excellent holiday location. We spent a week in Madeira last month, and covered it all. 2/3 days in Funchal, and the remainder on the rest of the island. We hired a car for the latter portion too. The island has more than enough to keep you going for a week. 2/3 days in Funchal was right for us.
The highlights for us were the Museu de Fotografia da Madeira - Atelier Vicente's, Igreja do Colegio Sao Joao Evangelista, Rua Santa Maria, all the gardens, and the old town generally.
The vegan cuisine scene on the island was pretty good, and we had our best vegan meal in years in Funchal at Olives. Vegan Mundo, Fala Fala and La Pasta were excellent too. However soy milk wasn't generally available in cafe's. We had all five rum-based Poncha's, the pineapple Nikita, and a bottle of Madeiran wine. The local breads, cakes and pastries too.
The roads outside of the city, are pretty good in comparison to other locations such as the Canary Islands. So travelling about is OK, but still while exercising care, even in a small car. Pico Avieiro we found badly organized (i.e. parking), and overrun with hikers/sightseers, and as a result unsafe ( e.g. a minor car collision happened in front of us). Porto Moniz was lovely and calm with the natural rock pools. Porto da Cruz too was nice and quaint. The Fanal forest wasn't a big deal, and it and the Pico Avieiro weren't worth the effort, we found.
Living in Madeira is a different matter. This was a secondary reason for our visit. Being EU/Irish citizens, we have access to the EU (27 countries) and the UK. We have lived and worked in four of these 28 countries, and have visited most of them.
Thoughts on Madeira as a place to live:
1. We found that the western side of Funchal, Sao Martinho, over developed, and has lost it's Madeiran identity completely.
2. Monte was too high to access easily and daily.
3. Eastern Funchal was better as far as Canico only, and not beyond.
4. In Funchal, lower Sé and San Pedro seems best for us possibly, however the air quality in Funchal was not good, because of the old cars and buses I guess.
5. The northern portion of the island is still underdeveloped, which is good if you can live with that. Lovely scenery. Lower pricing. Slower pace than Funchal. We would omit Sao Vicente however.
6. The weather is excellent, but having Spring/Summer all year round, is a problem for some..
7. Being on a relatively small island, packed with tourists year-round plays out both ways, i.e. newer properties, international cuisine, good shopping, and better infrastructure (roads and airport routes) on one hand, with overpricing (housing), and crowds on the other hand.
8. It rains, which is good. It has its own fresh water supply. Lanzarote, southern Spain, and southern Tenerife don't have enough water.
9. It doesn't get cold or hot. So heating or aircon is rarely really needed, I hear.
10. It has a good bus system, in Funchal in particular.
11. It has large supermarkets, and good value too like Pingo Doce (excellent veg./fruit and wine selection).
12. The free healthcare system is good, I hear. (But one should consider an insured top-up maybe??)
13. The beaches are rocky.
So, for the meantime we are staying put in Dorset, UK, I think.
1. 6 airports within a 2.25 hours max. drive. Buses and trains too, on our doorstep.
2. London, 90 minutes away, and all it has to offer.
3. English speaking.
4. Free healthcare (so far),
5. Four seasons with a relatively mild winter.
6. The cost of living (except for property) is higher than Madeira of course, but this is not outweighed by the switching costs (property selling/buying costs) of moving to another location.
7. 2 mins. walk to a 7 mile sandy beach. Lucky us!!
8. No hills in comparison to Funchal.
9. The above also outweighs also the current mad political situation.
If we HAD to move, it would be Valencia, Spain possibly. Bilbao, Spain, and Viana do Castelo, Portugal are still other possibilities to be tested.
I live near Canico, Madeira. Some of what you say is true but the reason to choose Portugal (if you are not an EU citizen) is the NHR tax program. As an American, we are required to pay income taxes even if we don't live in the country. So, having a flat tax of 10% and a good dual tax treat between Portugal and the US keeps life affordable as a retiree. My first choice was Spain but the taxes were much higher.
Also, it's safer here and more people speak English.
The fact that Portugal is taking in retirees from rich countries is making Portugal too expensive for the Portuguese themselves. These retirees have a much bigger purchase power than the Portuguese, they make the prices of everything go up and the locals can no longer afford anything.
Ya, it's about time to make them uncomfortable.
@@rasputindasilva858 If they're a retiree, one way to help with this: build a new house on empty land instead of buying one.
foreigns coming to Portugal play a small part when it comes to changing the cost of living of the country overall. Mind you, we just got out of a global pandemic and now there's also a raging war happening in the other tip of the continent. Those 2 aspect have affected multiple countries around the world some got hit harder than others so yea i really don't think the immigrates coming over to retire/live play that much of a role in changing the cost of living of portugal for worst. Don't get me wrong, i do know that it affects the country but compared to the other stuff that is currently happening/happened I'd say that their impact is relatively small though.
@@epic8923 Well this problem isn't something new in Portugal, and it affects primarily the real state industry. There is another factor that Portugal lacks industries of its own and servers primarily as a supplier of qualified workforce to other European countries that pay better.
I feel for the local population due to all the factors now in play with wages vs affordable housing. I live in a small beautiful town (20,000 population) Durango, Colorado, USA and here the house prices have shot way up. We have few industries and survive on tourism. A typical 140 square meter T3 here sells for over $770,000 US dollars. In 2018 the same house was $520,000. Rent for this property is at a minimum $2,600.month US. Local wages are not keeping up and it’s difficult to find affordable housing. Most of us have two jobs to create enough income. Since COVID, many people from all over the US have moved to this place, increasing prices of housing. Many are millionaires and even some billionaires. Local working folks are living far away to work here, or moving to other places, as I am. I am moving to Portugal- a move planned long ago. It is a world wide issue. I am renting rather than selling my Durango home because if I need to come back years from now I will not be able to buy a house.
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere You are welcome.
Madeira was beautiful even in the winter, nice kind people, love Portugal
It really is!
What surprised me the most as I looked into Sardinia and Mallorca is how populated they were...and that so many people speak English...Also they have universities and technology which helps....greatly...I lived in the UK Wales years ago and hope to leave the US for a while in the future...
it's a bit far from the mainland but i'd live there for 3-6 months to try it out...Sounds fun!
Interesting you CZcamsrs let for a chat.
Madeira is a special place, while I don't see myself living there right now, retiring there would be a good option.
Thanks for the post, take care.
Thanks, Sergio! Madeira is a special place for sure. - Josh & Kalie
The famous Ricardo, l have seen him with other overlandres and they were satisfied. I have to say that Marieanne is a great long distance driver. In your previous video lyou mentioned of missing your your overlander friends. It will be a while that you can spend some time together in the flesh given that the world is a stage for you. I am in awe how world travellers can go from continent to continent and make friends. Of you will your friends again but it will be a while.
@rain. Since the prevailing wind comes from the North. Clouds will rise when they come close to the island and et go of the rain. The waterways transport the water from the North to the fertile South. Thus, sufficient water but it has to get transported somehow 🙂
Madeira IS a beautiful place off the west coast of Morocco. The people are nice, the food is fantastic the roads are lined w/ Calla lillies, highly recommended.👍👍👍
Is it true that Madeira has Spring like weather all year round ? If so ,thats fandabbydozee!
Some people are blaming Americans, Brits, Germans etc for their issues...I'm sorry but people of Portugal were complaining about their economy and financial situation way before these wealthy foreigners started moving in. There are 165k Portuguese nationals living in the UK alone but they didn't move there because some retirees who moved to Portugal priced them out, they left Portugal because in many areas of Portugal, especially islands, it is nearly impossible for a young person to find a decent job.
I'm from a small town of around 20k in Slovakia. Many people left surrounding villages, mainly to work in cities elsewhere in the country as most young people don't want to live in rural areas but then when they get older, some of them move back to those rural areas because that's where you can truly relax and they are always welcome to move there no matter what country they are from. Locals are happy to see new people coming in because that means their villages or even towns aren't going to be left abandoned.
Now imagine if people were only leaving Madeira for better jobs but nobody was moving there to retire? Wouldn't that be worse for the island?
Portugal should take citizens on international income, like the US does. Now it pays to educate then and they go give their labor to other countries.
Agreed, Portugal needs tourists and expats. We are an imperfect solution to a serious problem they’ve been facing for decades.
How much rain does Funchal get?
Hope over to Porto Santo if you crave a golden sand beach.
Hey guys another awesome video! Bn watching Alan since he started and you guys for a while also Nick Veronica dave Kirsten all you guys, would you know any xpats meet up in mid April flying into lisbon on the 13th of lisbon will be around for a while would like to meet some of you guys
Maybe move there?
Hey! Thank you. We appreciate you watching all of us. We're not going to be in Portugal during April so we won't be around. Hopefully someone else will host something. - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere thank you!
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it. - Josh & Kalie
Fascinating. The link to Josh channel doesn't work
Thank you so much! There was a glitch and the link changed to all those upper and lower cased letters. It should be fixed now. Could you please confirm that Alan's channel link is working for you? Thank you again!! - Josh & Kalie
@@ExpatsEverywhere Thank you 😊 the link is working now 👌
I tried but I have a serious fear of heights and felt limited by the places I felt comfortable going. ...
I've been to Madeira twice including a full week. I love Madeira. Such a besutiful place. ❤
Would it be wise for a young single man to shift to Madeira?!
If so, what would be the benefits and drawbacks?
11k for shipping everything is not bad....I paid 14k to move across the US by truck
How is the traffic at rush hours on roads?
More like busyness than traffic.
Is it good for a young single man? As in is there a youthful, innovative vibe there?
When I went to Azores there were no young women and men age 18-35 it was all old folk (nothing wrong with that!) and it was really really boring. Great place to retire or for a family with young kids but not for a young single man looking to get out there and start his journey in life, does this island have the same vibe?
Thanks
yes is also boring as hell, its depressed
Not good for a single man. It is full of older local people, families, and senior tourists from England and Germany.
Would love to see what would happen if you asked how the locals feel about Expats!
We're working on a video for this. It's in the pipeline and been an idea we've had for a while. We did do an interview with a Portuguese woman that moved back to Portugal after living abroad and she spoke about expats here in Portugal and that video didn't perform well. We wondered if it was because of the lack of interest in people hearing a Portuguese perspective of Portugal. So because of that, we paused production on doing street interviews with Portuguese about it, but it's a good topic and we'll get to it. - Josh & Kalie
HI Josh & Kalie, I think asking someone who has lived abroad and returned is not the same (their views and experience will have been changed/altered and will be more accepting). Definitely, you will not have the same response or impact as asking the young & old generations what they think and feel about Expats coming over. Most locals don't have the possibility to leave the Island and resentment is growing. I've seen it during my Stay in South America all the way over to Asia, and now in Madeira where I retired 2 years ago. There is a fine line one walks when being an expat overseas. If you speak the language (like I do) and look foreign you will hear what the locals say and it's not all roses and sparkles. Will look forward to the vid 🙏🙏 @@ExpatsEverywhere
@@thenomadsurvivalist4459 Oh, we know that for sure. We know that not everybody is happy but there's never a time when everyone is happy. The people we've spoken to in Porto tend to be more annoyed with tourism than with foreigners living in the city although sometimes they can't tell us apart. By in large, the people we've spoken with are either happy we're here or obviously to the fact that we're here, rather than being resentful of it, but doing a candid street interview could solve that despite it inevitably being a small sample size. Let's see. 🙂 - Josh & Kalie
Beautiful island, but incredibly busy with tourists. No matter where you go hiking you run into loads of others. It's a great place to visit, but not the most relaxing destination to visit. I think it would have been really amazing a decade or two ago. Been everywhere on the island but there's very few places to get away from others. :(
Agreed. Too many tourists.
@@kenlewis2253 Yes it's unfortunate as it's such a beautiful island. However, I guess the same can now be said about every corner of our earth. There are tour buses and cruise liners showing up even in the most remote of places. Still, my wife is quick to point out whenever I complain, that I'm a tourist too and I'm as much a part of the problem. :)
Well as a Pakistani I have a question, I am 40 years old. Today I have a choice to go to USA (process will take less then an year, H1B, will cost me around $8000 for processing) I am working in Portugal since 1 month in Telecom sector, on Tech Visa, 2000 euro plus salary. What advise will you give me, stay here or move to USA. Kindly support to make a choice for me and my family (Me, wife, mother, two little daughters). Thank you in advance.
Bom dia! Thank you very much for sharing. About to apply for D 7 can you please suggest any one who help us to get NIF & open an a Bank account with out visiting Portugal. Best wishes
BORDR helped me with the bank account. I'd tried someone else first and they required a TON of documentation, apostille's, etc. With BORDR I had a bank account fairly quickly with less documentation requirements.
Like Chris said, Bordr. We've got a discount link in all of our video descriptions to save you some money on any of Bordr's services. If you can't find that link, email Kalie at info@expatseverywhere.com and she'll send it to you. - Josh & Kalie
@@cbenson513 thanks
@@ExpatsEverywhere thanks. But Bordr says they can't help any one to open Bank account from United Arab Emirates Resident . NIF yes . So no use ?
@@bireshwarmitra2089 Ah, UAE! Okay. It could be a harder road but there are some banks that do it remotely (online) but you'll need to put in some sweat equity. I'm not 100% sure to what extend it's an issue being from the UAE. If you want to email me at contact@expatseverywhere.com I can put you in touch with a company that might be able to help. - Josh
the collapse of the real estate market in Portugal is coming due to super inflated real estate caused by overpaying foreigners
💯 Something has to give because it’s own citizens cannot compete with foreigners and quite frankly they shouldn’t have, but I’m cognizant that foreigners are needed to. It’s a vicious circle unfortunately. I for one am waiting for the drop because even for me having been born in Portugal and living in the USA look at those prices and I’m like 🤯
@@manuelacosta5604 Feel for you on that. South east England prices are mental and have been for 20 years at least.
@@manuelacosta5604 you are 100 percent correct.
exactly that. The local people can't even afford real state anymore.
Now this is a comment grounded in reality. Thank you. You probably know that 10-15% of the real estate transactions were to foreigners much makes sense considering around 10% of the population in Portugal is foreign-born. - Josh & Kalie
The government needs to regulate who comes in and what takes place once they are there. Retiree's that restore properties (jobs for locals), bring funds that turn into all sorts of service jobs for locals, improvement such as those to local/non-local transportation, communication, cultural such as museums and other civic venues, etc. can invigorate an area. Too many towns in Europe are suffering or being abandoned. Let governments chose where non-locals get to live, cap rent for locals and use the funds that come in on behalf of locals. Those that vote can see to that.
Did I miss why they moved to Portugal?
Be carefull of the 1951 rule ,This is one Portuguese law that a lot of people lose their dreams with ,estate agents do not always warn you of this law nor do they tell you to ensure you are aware of this BEFORE you part with ANY MONEY
Because all tbe big wave surfers go there.
She said WHY? did you move form Chicago..lol..REALLY!!!
Chicago is very segregated. He's definitely not from the south side
George Clooney and Bruno Ganz had a baby
Who? Alan?
Will retired there in three years
Woah! Uuuuuuuuh, Cue up minute 13:35 - Why is it so wonderful? "It has Beaches," says Alan. That's only technically accurate. It has flat areas with rocks - lots of rocks. Madeira doesn't have "sandy" beaches Folks. ((( I moved here a year ago.))) In fact on one of the few beaches, it has imported sand. Long sandy beaches are found over on the next island up = Porto Santo. Any and ALL who come here - this is a Rock, a very steeeeeeeeeep rock that's great for trekking, not sitting on a Coconut Palm Beach. Driving anywhere here, is like driving on a roller coaster track. Up and down 45 degree angles with steep drop-off's the entire way is not uncommon here. STRONGLY URGE ALL (especially Americans) WHO ARE CONSIDERING A MOVE HERE - Set up a Scout mission before ever considering. 2nd - the standard of living you are used to, will now become nearly impossible to sustain within the constraints of the Euro structure. That's a chapter in its lonesome. Expect 40% to 65% damage rates of all Postal deliveries - All of them. Yes, it's that bad - from consumables to major appliances and everything in between. For anyone considering making Madeira home, understand that the Home-making process is radically different than being a visitor/tourist. You are going to hire a contractor and will need (their) skilled help (labor) to tailor your home. Understand that 50% of the entire country of Portugal who are between the ages of 25 to 70 are High School Drop outs - They do not have a High School diploma. Nothing gets fixed here. Google 2ndary School Portugal for verification. Read the Book "A Year in Provence." Last - (if you are an English Speaking person), the process of learning Portuguese is ABOVE average in difficulty for languages. If you have been told "Oh, but most there speak English." Ha! That is a Bald-faced lie. 95% do not Speak English here (Madeira) and they don't want to either. In fact, they resent having to do so. I'm not talking about retail or restaurants, I'm talking Labor. We (the ExPats) are required to speak a minimum of survival-level in order to cover all Health/Injury/Legal/Insurance-based needs. Spend an hour researching the language and test the water if this is a good fit for you. Navigating anything through a foreign language is difficult at best. Trying to get that done with an above-average challenge = Warning! Hard work ahead. Continental Portuguese is a blend between Russian/Slavic and Spanish. Buyer Beware.
Sounds like you made the wrong choice for a home. I live on the island of Madeira and haven't found it as difficult to adjust. People do fix things. I had a great contractor to renovate my apartment. If you stay on the main roads, driving is challenging but not impossible. Yes, Portuguese is difficult but it is important to learn the language of any country you would want to be. The beaches are enjoyable despite the rocks and there are many concrete areas built into the beaches that are easier to navigate. I have found many of the locals that I know the be educated and worldly. It is not true that 95% of Madeirans do not speak English. Many people, especially the younger ones, do. And, if you know a little Portuguese and they know a few words in English, it is possible to communicate.
I think the most challenging thing is being far from Continental Europe. That may be the reason I will move in the future.
Finding people who can speak a little English is different from finding a Labor Contractor to help you fix a major home structural issue or navigate a renovation project. I've never had Island fever, but not being able to find easy walking areas that aren't loaded with Ticks or thistles and cactus spines has been deflating for Dog walks. No one knows this until you move here. Best of luck on the Continental journey @@desertdweller8520
He said 95% of labor. I think he is correct. There is a huge divide between service industry English speaking and the non-English speaking laborers.
I agreed to not call their shore a beach. In my eyes, if it isn’t natural sand, it isn’t a beach, rather it is a coastline.
Not all of us went to Portugal. For myself, I found my paradise in the south of France. ❤ It has been home since 2007.
Curious...! If you found your paradise and are so happy there in South of France why come are you surfing in the internet "wasting your time" watching videos about The REAL Reason Americans Are Moving to Madeira, Portugal instead be wataching videos about (for instance !!!) "Americans who moved to France?
@@rogeriogouveia9147 because a dear friend is looking to make the move. She likes it when I send her such links. Just because I am so happy, I don't forget my friends.
Don’t blame Americans wanting to move out of USA
I’m sooooo glad I left
What a fantastic gentleman. I'd l9ve to spend a whole afternoin hsving beers with him at a nice café, shooting the sh*t with him and his lovely wife.
É tudo muito lindo e bom , mas todas as vantagens que ingleses , americanos e outros estrangeiros têm em Portugal saem do bolso da classe média portuguesa. Como eles podem pagar 800€ por um t1 acabamos por não ter casas que caibam no nosso bolso uma vez que o ordenado mínimo não chega aos 800€. Quanto à saúde também é um paraíso para eles. Hospitais públicos gratuitos!! Nós descontamos a vida toda para o conseguir , eles chegam cá, com idade de precisarem com frequência de assistência média e usufruem de tudo o que nós fomos criando. Quanto ao gerarem riqueza no nosso país? Isso não acontece, até os carros trazem dos países de origem porque aqui são mais caros. Aqui só fazem fastos com a alimentação e mesmo esses são regrados.
De qualquer forma bem vindos a um país que vos acolhe mas cujo governo despreza os portugueses.
Já agora, alguém sabe de algum país que possa acolher assim os portugueses quando alcançarem a idade de parar de trabalhar? Se puderem deixem aqui a referência. Daqui a 3 anos mudo- me para lá! Direi adeus com alegria à alternância de governos PS e PSD
O governo atraiçoa o País e os portugueses. Mais umas décadas e somos minoria no nosso país. Será que aí teremos direitos? Aposto que não. Os arautos de Abril enchem a boca e os bolsos de liberdade... Mas a população portuguesa definha, está envelhecida, nunca apostaram na juventude... Só nos preservativos aborto e eutanásia. Até os cães já tem mais direitos que as pessoas. Mão de obra precisa-se para servir os senhores... Como Portugal não tem que chega toca a submergir Portugal de mão de obra ainda mais barata que a nossa, pois os senhores são poupadinhos e precisam de ser servidos e bem servidos.
tambem digo o mesmo
@@cutesy1631 pode ser que a sorte acabe brevemente.
Lol, you want to stay in the EU so keep supporting the former Herman the German Merkel's Germany. They own you now !
Maderia maybe nice but the Spanish Canary Islands are further south so warmer and Spanish is an easier language than Portuguese
And you get to enjoy the drunk Brit partygoers.
TO FREE LOAD OFF THE CHEAP PRICES, DUE TO THE LOW WAGES MADE BY EUROPEANS.
SEE THE PRICES ARE KEPT LOW AND THEY GET FREE MEDICAL SO THE LOW WAGES DON'T HURT SO BAD. MY 2022 BONUS WAS OVER TWICE THE AVERAGE.
The average salary in Portugal was 19,212 euros per year in 2021, compared with 18,794 in 2020.
yup come price out the locals from homes, thank you.
That is one perspective. The other is that Portuguese let their housing decay, and this new interest is making their crappy abandoned homes worth something.
Man: U look cold and in a parka. Not that much different then here in frigid (unlivable Canada) but at least U r not in a woke ECG political morass as in canadistan which makes the cool weather more acceptable.
They're filming this interview in Porto.
Lol, sometimes didn’t listen carefully.
I was wrong once again, I tought the Americans were coming into Europe, I guess they already here 😁
US Americans are NOT really coming into Europe, at the same rate they are in Mexico and Central America. Many US Americans are staying in the Americas.
We waited too long to put our house on the market.. now the golden visa is gone. FAFO
Your house where? In your country or Madeira?
Because is SSSSS
Let's see this place or the Chicago warzone... Hard choice 🤔
Oh trust and believe, when he said he's from Chicago he's not talking about the south side!
Portugal enforces the Law?😂
Pity Americans going to spoil everything.
Americans don't even make the top ten in countries immigrants come from to Portugal. Less that a few percent of all Immigrants.
They're moving to Madeira because it. They want Madeira in them.
I love the grounded reality of this channel!!,Despite the recession, I no longer depend on Government Grant since i acquire $16,400 bi weekly profits
Lol, been looking at Madeira and expatriating all around the world for decades. Here is your video review: Title: mostly clickbait. Honesty verses tourist promotion or someone who benefits from prices going up there: smarmy. Every single time that guy mentions something negative he immediately follows up with how it's not really negative. Did not subscribe.
Hi Mykl, no problem, man. Your review is pretty incoherent though, so we're going take your feedback very much with a grain of salt and not bother trying to justify anything that Alan said in the interview or why we titled it the way we did. Have a great weekend. - Josh & Kalie
Sort of boring life teaser. OMG. What a BS
You know nobody wants to live in Hawaii anymore... Too expensive....too far....too many problems with the locals or drug culture...
The locals suck there. The worst of Polynesian and Filipino culture merged together. (Though plenty of sweet ones too, but the nasty ones are so super toxic).
He moved because Blackhawks ,Bulls and Sox SUCKS 🙂
Americans?
America is a continent, not a country.
Do you mean people from Mexico, Argentina...?
That is getting old.
Yankee colonizers.
I rather die than watching my homeland invaded.
What country? I’m betting it isn’t a candidate for generating such demand.