HOW TO PROFESSIONALLY LOWER VW T4 SUSPENSION (by 100mm or more!)
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- HOW TO PROFESSIONALLY LOWER VW T4 SUSPENSION (by 100mm or more!) This week we take our project VW T4 and absolutely slam it on the floor!
We show you how to remove and 'clock' the front torsion bars, modify the front chassis rails to fit Shanes-Plates from Scarface Lowriders, fit shortened drop links and new front shock absorbers by Gaz.
At the rear we fit new 5" Faulkner springs, Powerflex shims and Gaz adjustable rear shocks. We keep everything in place with retaining before lowering the van down and cruising along the beach.
10:42 If you want to skip the intro and get straight to the How-To start at
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🕐 TIME STAMPS 🕐
0:00 HOW TO PROFESSIONALLY LOWER VW T4 SUSPENSION (by 100mm or more!)
0:01 Introduction montage
1:10 Description of the van and who we will be working with
4:10 Introduction to Chris Bulmer and how to lower a VW T4
6:53 The parts needed to lower a T4
9:33 The Tools required to lower a T4
10:42 Jacking up and supporting the vehicle and removing wheels
11:13 Step 1: How to Remove VW T4 Torsion Bar nuts
12:59 Step 2: How to remove VW T4 front shock absorbers and mounts
14:01 Step 3: How to lower a VW T4 front subframe (to allow access to the torsion arms)
15:34 Step 4: How to lower a VW T4 fuel tank
17:07 Step 5: How to remove VW T4 Torsion Bar
20:03 What is a torsion bar and how do they differ?
22:08 Step 6: How to clock VW T4 Torsion bars
26:13 Bonus! How to change VW T4 anti roll bar bushes
27:03 Step 7: How to replace a VW T4 drop link
28:58 Step 8: How to fit 'Shanes Plates' to a VW T4
32:30 Reassembly montage!
34:05 Walk through- talk through: How to lower VW T4 rear suspension (and montage)
36:03 Step 9: How to remove VW T4 rear shock absorbers and springs
36:23 Step 10: How to cut down VW T4 rear bump stops
37:26 Step 11: How to Fit VW T4 Gaz rear shock absorbers and Faulkner Springs
38:40 Step 12: How to fit VW T4 rear retaining strap
41:30 Final adjustments and re-cap
42:29 Outro, thank you's and cruise
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I’m amazed the opinion of most T4 owners still is that you can’t lower a T4 more than 50mm.Shane at scarface lowriders front mounts were a revelation a few years ago and I’d run them on my T4 with 5inch Faulkner’s for the last few years.I actually cut and re-welded the rear bumpstop cups back in but about 40mm shorter.As for slammed.I’d call this a sensible lowering with no affect on the ride.It’s been done right.It just gets the word out to the masses what’s possible with the right products.🤙🏼Well done.
Love it! Looks awesome. I did mine last week but went with 6” Faulkner with bump stop mod and Bilstein B6. Down by 60mm, wish I’d seen this first mind! Love the channel.
Great job! I’m amazed your van came with pink tortion bars! Very rare! I had to buy a set of pink clocked ones and mine were the skinnier ones!🤙🏻
Outstanding video, can't wait go get mine lowered. Just hunting for a rear 28mm ARB to match my front 27mm and Grey torsion bars. Going go get Shane's plates too. So jealous of the solid tailgate you have, I need one to do a carbon mould
Chad doing what chad does best🤙
Awesome job guys
Müthiş,harika.(superrr)Çok teşekkürler.
Great days work 👍
Great video! Interesting that the subframe has to drop and the tank as well to gain clearance to get the torsion bars out. Another video I watched showed the process of swapping in new upper control arms and the guy was able to reach the bolts at the end of the torsion bar (where it meets the upper control arm) via stacking multiple ratchet extension and going in all the way from the rear (back where the torsion adjustment bolts are.) would the torsion bar not just be able to slide out towards the back without dropping the subframe and gas tank?
Always interested in your instructional videos and the T4 restoration and watch regularly. However, struggled with this one - lowering surely worsens the ride and the handling in real world conditions and does it really look any better? But hey, it’s your van and your money so if it floats your boat! Just hope the wheel arches get some attention soon!
Great video, great van and great job! (But please sort those arches!)
Brilliant vid. just what I needed. I have all these parts ready apart from gaz shocks, I went with Sach HD and 6" Faulkner's.
I don't think I'll have to clock the bars on mine ? I haven't looked yet but I was told I'd likely have pink bars on my 2002 ACV 2.5 TDi LWb....which would be massively handy haha
With 6's you shouldn't need to clock, but will future proof if you want to go lower!
Yes mate another vdub channel I've subscribed 👍 fancy a collab???
Good to see you here mate. Cheers
Brilliant video, van looks great looking to lowing mine! What would you recommend for a comfortable ride? I’m thinking a 60- 70 mm drop from standard am running 17 inch wheels at the moment!
Great video, very interesting ................... Next video How To, raise a T4 from standard?
I've move to the country, dirt tracks everywhere, so I want to put BIG off road tyres on my bus. 16" wheels.
TURK
Hi should this not be part 7 ?
Good job ur doing 👍
Hi guys,
Nice job. Watched it multiple times. However, ive also gained some more info on the web and came with some questions:
Clocking the torsion bars will only gain more low instead of an increased springrate right?
Do thicker torsion bars realy improve springrate significantly? Or other worda, is it worth the job to change to for instance pink bars?
Why not notching the front chassis and subframe as Scarface boys do all the time? I thought they do that so the t4 does not constanly touch the subframe while compressed suspension?
Great video, can I suggest you put some lighting under vehicles, in wheel arches when filming.
You have him levels of sound and production on your channel. It’s great. However it would help the viewers if you could light up the underside , footwells , when arches , rear of the vans etc.
I’m not sure if you will see this comment. Your channel is great, and has helped me out with my own caddy van mods. So thanks for all the advice, contacts for materials and quality information.
A head camera might be a good idea as well. That way, we see what you see. Instead of a camera angle of you with your head in a wheel arch. 🙂. Cheers
Great job as always but why slam a camper? Be a right bugger to get on and off camping fields?
My thoughts also. Surely too, the appalling standard of roads all over really, is inevitably going to severly damage the undercarriage..
never ever gonna do mine ,so limiting.
Thanks for the comments Mac. Whilst I agree that it's not for everyone, It's not lost any of its practicality. I still have 3" of clearance at its lowest point and since lowering it I've carried out my daily commute without problem which is 30 miles a day with rural and main roads. I've done a medium distance journey (180miles) and it's been borrowed to help my friend move house. All without any problems or bottoming out the suspension. I'm happy with the results, and the style.
Combe Valley Campers if it works for you bud, happy days. Keep up the videos, they’ve helped me loads with my conversion attempts. 🤙
If you like it that's all that matters. Nice job! Personally I have my T4 at stock ride height but 245/45/R18s on. They fill the wheel arches and do make the van look a little lower. Side bars give a great illusion of the vehicle being lower too. I would never consider lowering as I have fresh and grey water tanks slung underneath.
Late to the party!!! but did you have to relocate the handbrake cable to the underside of the trailing arm to stop it getting crushed? VDUB monkeys seemed to recommend it ?? Awesome vid 🙌🙌😊😊
What shock setting did you set fronts ?
I like your confidence in not getting dirty by wearing white shirts 👍
Does it smoke the front tyres on lock?
Another point, you might rub on the front so it may be worth buying thinner tyres! I’m on 215/40/17 sorted it right out🤘🏻
At the moment it drives and rides beautifully even with the 215/50/17s on the rear! But if needs be I'll go to the 40 profiles. Thanks
Did less lowering than this on my 97 T4, will the front bottom out over pot holes? my van was dire for this even with new shocks and cutting off the rubber! Fitting Sachs touring shocks has sorted it
Honestly, it rides lovely. Not bottomed it out at all and my daily commute is half Rural, half fat road and I have to conquer 3 speed bumps, all without issues
What were you die grinding away in the chassis rail?
Sound if u like motorway driving got to go the long way to avoid the speed bumps top vid all the same 👍👍👍👍👍
I used it as a a regular daily for months. Urban, country roads and motorway
What wheels are they ?
They suit your van really well
No idea!! They are unbranded. I like them though :)
What is it actually like to drive though? Looks awesome but I'm worried about pot-holes, speedbumps etc. I live on the coast and the roads are pretty bumpy here. Thanks
Rides very well indeed to be honest. It still has plenty of clearance and is a clean ride. I have experience in driving lowered vehicles anyway but you have to.practice cautious driving.
I had a 80mm drop on the Front with Original Plates and uncut bumpstop. Got Maybe half to Full centimeter clearence between bumpstop and link. Just Roads with a specific length between the holes/bumps it Starts to get bumpy. I am thinking about the Shanes plates... but i dont now how it going to change this... the dampers arent making any Trouble. If i cut the bumpstops my tire and Arch are going to have a lovely relationship haha
Great video and really helpful. Any chance you could convince the crew at The VDub Monkeys and Shane at Scarface Lowriders to ship to the States? It's a real shame we can't give them our business $$$!!
Drop us a email we can ship you the parts no problem. thevdubmonkeys@gmail.com
Mine is low but I'm thinking about going back to stannard specs. Yes you get the look which does look good and if your happy then happy days but the T4 is an aging beast with rattles anyway. Taking out most of the shock travel doesn't make for a comfy smooth ride.
You'd be surprised. Using Google the gear I did on the video, I drive it daily urban and motorway for many comfortable miles
Hi just wondering what spring rate you went with on the rear
1100lbs
So if you were wanting to get this done, what would it cost please
If you drop us a email we can supply you the parts and point you in the right direction. thevdubmonkeys@gmail.com
So had this upset your camber as it did to mine when I did it . Nice job anyway.
Can someone tell me how to deal with camber, after lowering. I have
lowered my T4, 50mm and am chewing out the inside of my tyres every
9months(approx).
I am running 235 x 45 x 18. Wheel alignment is
sorted but, camber is causing the problem. Any info on this issue would
be greatly appreciated.
Obviously is necessary to do something with the camber setting limits? With the factory limits I was able to adjust the camber after lowering my T4's front only 35 mm so, that tire's inside-chewing stopped. So this after-lowering wheel alignment info would be definitely greatly appreciated.
@@rayokas69 Thanks for the response.! I have taken it to get wheel alignment and they tell me there is nothing they can do about adjusting camber. Even though i pointed out that there are bolts to make adjustments. Do i try another shop, or, are these bolts extremely limited.
I was also looking into getting aftermarket camber bushings. But, not sure if its necessary.
It would be super helpful if someone made a video on this issue.
Thanks.
2:23 😂😂 true, very true.
with a YO and another YO
How much innuendo can you cram into one video? LOL
36:14, I say no more.
Great video but far too many adverts
CZcams rules I'm afraid unless I cancel them all
Thats a lot of work and money to ruin the suspension (and that nice T shirt).. Fair play though if you want to hang out with the cool kids. I thought that burgundy van at the end of the vid looked best, but I am super uncool :0)
On the contrary, the tshirt was a freebie, and a marketing expense, and the van still rides beautifully. (Even if I do now need a sports bra!)
White T-shirt ............. suspiciously clean after all that. Great vid though.
An air line and good blow-off works wonders!
That's what she said.
Зачем не магу понять, это не спорт кар.
Why lower it, isn't it more annoying going over large humps or debris on road?
Tasty 💋👍💕
How to professionally fudge up the T4 suspension.
Though it definitely looks cool, don't use the words lowering and handling in the same sentence here. What has been done here, is for looks and looks only. And you probably secretly know it.
On load (literally, or while cornering, in bump or on the brakes) you'll hit the severely shortened bumpstops so hard, it'll instantly cause an infinite spring rate, followed by a violent rebound.
On the rear...
Deleting the rear bumpstops is even worse. When using the van in any practical way, it's going to kill the rear shocks...
...or it's going to stack the rear coil at bump, causing them to lose their initial spring rate (read sag).
This is ok for showcars, but for and application usable for the road.
Try a spirited drive in the wet (where you know you have better roadholding or quite the opposite), and you'll know you went down the wrong path. You're going to regret it.
Unless it's for "streetcred" at the local McD. In that case: two thumbs up. You nailed it.
Thanks for the comments Paul. Whilst I agree that it doesn't perform in the same way as before. It's not lost any of its practicality. I still have 3" of clearance at its lowest point and since lowering it I've carried out my daily commute without problem which is 30 miles a day with rural and main roads. I've done a medium distance journey (180miles) and it's been borrowed to help my friend move house. All without any problems or bottoming out the suspension. I'm happy with the results, and the style
@@Paul_VanGo fair enough - but having driven a T4 standard and like this I can assure you from first hand experience that the handling is significantly improved. It’s not intended to be a race set up but drastically reduces body roll while ensuring plenty of travel. I’ve been driving T4’s for 10 years and can promise you McDonald’s has in no way motivated my suspension set up! It’s functional as well as more visually appealing (to me!). Anecdotally, although not an automotive engineer I am a chartered mechanical engineer.
And now "How to professionally lift T4" for the people who have a taste?
Taste is subjective no?!
Funny job but far from profesional. you loweret by 100 mm but a T4 can't be lowered more than 50mm. your rear brakes valve for load will not have any margin for regulation and your break will not compensate for extra load so when your break you will break more back than in the front and yor car will swing like a spinning top. Thas why your lowering is not profesional but pretty amanteur and dangerouse. BUT PRETTY COOL ;-))