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Land Rover Discovery 4 Diesel SDV6 3.0L Cambelt / Timing Belt change - Part 3
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2019
- In this video we fit the new timing / cam belt to our Land Rover 3.0L Diesel V6 engine. We show how to fit the belt / lock the cams and crank and fit the tensioner.
Chaps, I love the way your conversation replicates the thoughts in my head when I’m doing these jobs. Always appreciate the time and effort to video,edit and present these videos. Long may you continue 👍🏻
Go on! Rear cambelt. You’re brave enough, I know you can do it.
Great videos!! I can´t wait to see the fuel pump belt. Thanks for taking the time to make this videos
Thank you for your really comprehensive video which I have looked at several times; I am half way through the job on my 06 S Type. Very well done! John C
Glad it helped
well done lads. Not brave enough to do this myself, but, it gives me confidence when speaking to my mechanic, that all is going well. Would love to see the water pump belt replacement. Go for it lads, you're brilliant.
I need to look at this again !
Great video again guys. I would love to see the back belt changed.
It’s an absolute pain in the ass to do. But doable
A very useful trilogy, I just did this job following your guide.
It would have been a bit daunting without.
Thanks for taking the trouble.
I learnt, as you probably did, that the fan wiring unplugs at the other end.
Its a while since we did this but yes the fan wire does unplug.
Glad it helped
God bless the lot of you. Great job. Thank you for your patients. I intend to do mine on my Jaguar XFS 2013.
Do the fuel pump belt at the back of the engine guys great videos 👍
Tapity tapity taap!!! @ 19:08.... your guys are awesome... I have been watching this clips over the over for me to get ready next month timing belt change. Thank you
Great set of video's guy's .... and I very much like your workshop🙂
That's a really great trilogy of videos on the old cam belt. Great job and fantastic point of reference for all us Disco queens. Please do the rear belt! Can you even do it without taking the body off? I think LR Time did the rear on an LR 3, is it the same? Would love to see you guys nail it.
Can't wait for Ian's own channel ! 👍🏻
Great informative vid guys , please please please do the pump belt 😀
Danke für dieses Video!!!! Thank you very much from Germany... :-)
I have just completed 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 Front and rear timing belt replacement.
First time doing the rear and front. The rear belt took me approximately 8 hours to complete. What a job!!! The most difficult replacement I have ever done in my 25 years experience!!. Not one for the DIYer!!
Total job labour 18Hours with a service too.
What was the condition of the rear belt when you took it off - what was the mileage of your car ?
@@L663 very brown in colour and cracking on the all the teeth on the belt. 201000km, they snap at around 220000km. It’s a customer of mines car.
You guys could do the job!! I reckon!!
@@danielschmutz1282 When they snap what is the issue / failure mode other than loss of power ?
@@danielschmutz1282 I have an engine on the floor with a snapped crank i was going to use to do a video to show what needs doing !
And now using your videos to replace the timing so thank you
Great stuff guys , thanks for the video
As has been previously said many times, this is an excellent, practical video, showing step by step how to tackle this job, which to be honest, I would not of even considered to attempt before seeing this.
What is your opinion on someway locking the crankshaft be at the front pulley as an alternative to locking the flywheel, in my case it is the first timing belt change at 112k.Thanks again to both of you for taking the time to make this video.
I did look at this but the front crank wheel is not keyed onto the crank - its just on a taper so it could be put on at any angle. You can lock the crank in position but all you are doing is recording the position of the stretched belt you are replacing... not resetting to factory original - to do this the only way is to lock the crank !
Super video by you both. Many many thanks. Well done.
Our pleasure!
Great video
Hi Simon, loved these videos. You inspired me to tackle mine here in Cairns Australia. I've got the rear belt and tensioner ready to go (came in the Dayco kit) so hopefully you'll do yours so I can follow. Keep up the great work ☺
the rear belt is one i have not done yet. i have an engine i purchased to do the video on out of the car - need to get this done
it is less important is if it fails you will stop but not mash up the engine. Also there are no reports of these failing as they have a pretty easy job and are a short belt
@@L663 ok, look forward to it. Thanx again
@@L663 Awesome job lad's fantastic very well done... Hi Simon, would this be the same procedure & torque settings on my 2010, 3.0 diesel automatic Jaguar XF 250 ? Kind regards
@@L663 The rear, HPI, belt should be changed at the same time as cam belt on the front of the engine. The pump on the 3.0L needs to be timed, unlike that on the older 2.7L engine. I wouldn't wish to be in the outside lane of a motorway when it fails. The engine will stop immediately, you will loose power steering, and the brake servo will begin to give out as the vacuum pump stops as well. If you haven't maintained the car properly, ie not changed this belt then any responsible break down service will charge you for the recovery.
@@robertrich663 Hi Rob i think you are painting as grim a picture as possible - the servo will remain at full boost unless you use the brakes ? its not like the brakes will stop working.... has anyone actually had this belt break?? i have not heard of anyone.
Great video again fella's ....really helpful 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome video please make for rear belt change
Awesome videos well done, it helps me heaps. My disco has knocked out big end number one so may need a new crank but will change the belt(s) anyway Thanks
ouch - how many miles has yours done ? still interested what the real cause of this crank / bearing issue is..... some people saying its an oil clot / blockage etc?
powerfulukltd The crank is not out yet we are having trouble getting the pulley nut off. Yes I know it’s a left hand thread Let you know how we go. JLR reported an issue with installation of the main bearings. Oh the car has do 117,000km. I am in Australia but used to live in NE England Cheers
@@johnnywatson2340 Hi - is it a 2.7 or 3.0 ?
Hi, well done and wish you all good fortune in the years to come . Thanks for the video , would love a disco 4 but , the problems of owner ship and the expense . DL Time on y tube .😉
IT can be expensive if you are unlucky
Super descriptive in installing a new timing belt, is there a video clip coming up to do the Fuel pump and cam belt at the back of the engine? It must be of a similar age surely?
Thanks
Great info about the date code thanks
Where do you get the workshop manual from? Need it for my XJ 3.0 diesel.
Great vid again lads 👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent job 👍
Great. Video guys
Is the manual you're using available to the public? Would be handy
Great vid. How much different to the 2.7 is this. I'm hoping it's basically the same parts to take off and same layout.
liked your video, do you know where the crank sensor is located on that engine?
Excellent job Simon, same with your assistant. This is possible the best video for a Disco timing belt change. Welldone guys. Please do you have a video for the back time belt (smaller one) and also a video for a Disco3 please. I also want to ask if its compulsory you insert the lock under the car? because you mentioned you wanted to compare the timing distance after the fitting had been removed and lock inserted. Also where do i get the manuals please
Hi - thanks for the praise ! We are not trained mechanics as such ( i have a degree in Engineering ) but its good to know the video helps. Removing the starter motor is not 100% essential - it turned out on our car that when we locked the cams in place the crack lock tool dropped straight in - proving that if we had not locked the crank the timing would be fine. The side issue is that you need to make sure the crank does not move if you go for this method !
Hi! We have a Discovery 4 3.0 tdv6 2012 155kw!
1) could you please show us a video how to take out the Air shutoff throttle?
2) Do we have to make sure, that the car has to learn the new electronic when swapping the throttle?
Thx a lot
Best Regards from Austria
Much
Thank you for this very informative video. May I ask is this TDV6 the same as my early L494 ? (Dec 2013) also providing the cams are locked is it really vital to lock the flywheel providing you are very very careful ?
Many thanks
Terry.
Do these 3.0ltrs have a high pressure fuel pump belt like the 2.7’s at the rear of the engine?
Excellent. Thanks chaps. Just one tip! Don't wear a nice shirt when working on cars!!!
It was just a cheap shirt from the outlet.... problem is i have to be in the office some of the time... and in the workshop some of the time..
Hey guys how did you go with doing the rear belt, I want to give it a go but would like to follow your process
Thanks oskar
Well done lads! Did you check if the timing was affected by the wear of the old belt? That is, is it worth removing the starter to pin the fly wheel?
Hi - this is a good question - when we pinned it we found it did all pretty much line up... so you can get away without doing it but as cars get more mileage on them it may be worth considering.
Do you know the torque setting for the timing belt idler pulleys? Thanks
Oh almost forgot to ask , I have trouble with my wrong fuel mechanism, how do you fix/service or replace them on 2010 rrs an help would be greatly appreciated 😀
Any advice or suggestions on Discovery 4 engine conversion from Euro 5 to Euro 6?
Can be done, how much cost ?
Wow that seems expensive... not sure of any conversions
Hi
I noticed you had trouble lining up the locking pins another rotating the engine. I’m having the same issue. Would you say the locking pin kit is machined to the wrong size slightly. Surely something like a six inch nail would do the same job.
Do you know the precise distance the pin has to go through the cam hole to lock it sufficiently?
Thanks
Yes use a 6 inch nail or a screwdriver with the tip cut off....or better still i used a drill bit in the wrong way... smooth shank into hole. Use a small drill to get the depth and the work up to bigger drill with no slack.... good luck my young jedi !
It would be a pity not to do the other one. What is the other one for anyway?
Hi - the one at the back is apparently to drive the fuel pump... access is really hard ! What i am not sure about is if the rear belt fails what is the damage....
powerfulukltd OK. Would have thought a chain belt would have been better for difficult to reach places. Would have extended the service life also! I suppose the other decision is what happens if the back one fails vs trying to replace it and maybe breaking a bolt. I suppose the outcome would be the same on both fronts. You’d need to take the engine out of the vehicle😡
Rear one is for high pressure fuel pump. I was told if it breaks you will break down but it won't knacker your engine.
@@L663 Rear belt is timed on 3.0 . 2.7 is not timed
Hi , would you be able to try and fit the up dated gear shift ? The twist changer instead of the shift changer thanks callum
Not possible. Twist changer is 8 speed gearbox whereas shift changer is 6 speed gearbox..
I know this is an old video but just wondering if you have anything on the camshaft position sensor? I can’t for the life of me find where it is on mine to replace. Spent a few hours today looking at cant find it
its shown on this diagram i think
www.scuderiacarparts.com/part-finder/landrover/discovery/oe/500/5352/107274?h=899160
@@L663 yeah it is mate but I don’t know how to access it. I think ive found it but i have no idea how im supposed to get to it. The job time is less than an hour so what am i missing here.
@@L663i found and replaced it woohoo
Thank you
Hahaha...... no special tools required, apart from the e socket,locking tools and fan spanners. great work guys. Get on with that rear belt
The locking tools you could use a nail or cut off screw driver
I have a dead engine and was planning on doing the rear belt video ( off the car initially ) today !
@@L663 I was being sarcastic... Lol.
Can't wait for a bit of mirror use to see that belt change..... Camera man has his work cut out to show it
I have a question, how long does it take to get to work, and my car is the same way as Discovery 4 in 2015. Good Job.😎
It takes me just 5 mins to get to work....
powerfulukltd 5min? Timing. replacing belt
I have a land rover discovery 4 3.0 v6 diesel, she presented a problem, walking normally she suddenly turned on the oil light, immediately stopped and turned off the engine, I checked the normal oil level, normal temperature, but I tried to start the engine again, it didn't start anymore , I squeaked, we changed the fuel and engine filter oil, it worked longer, taking too long to pick up and throwing water out of the cooling tank, with very high pressure in it, will it be a burnt head gasket ??
Hi - this does not sound good.
Looking on the forums there are several causes / EGR valve ? Thermostat etc
www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/post583403.html
Great video 👍🏻what was the name of your manual you where referring to on the computer? thanks John
Hi - it is Land Rover Topix - it is open to everyone.... for a fee you can pay for hour etc ... its not expensive... i can do a video showing how to access if this would help
Thanks for the reply really appreciated 👍🏻keep up the great videos
Thanks guys can the belt at the back be done without the body coming off?
If you have small hands apparently yes ! I have not tried one yet but i can be done. What i am debating is if it fails apparently it does not cause damage - the engine wont run but its not scrap !. My car has over 200K miles on it and still good !
powerfulukltd my belt came off my old 2.7 rrs and everything stopped working immediately, nearly hit a lorry 🚛 , didn’t help that the guy who replaced it sheared off the tensioner then put a make shift one on to a engine bolt , knight mare , please do the rear as I’m going to tackle my 3.0 rrs on mine straight after 😀
Can you guys send me a link to the workshop manual you are using please? I can’t find a decent one to buy and that one looks pretty detailed.
Did you get it?
@@brendanmccormack9263 nope
Noticed they ignore the workshop manual request comments. Please share if anyone has it
Would the ECU check light go off if there is timing fault setting
Hi - yes this could happen i guess but need to get the fault code read to check
@@L663 The only code that remains is P0033-00
Why not write on the cambelt the date and mileage of when you changed it? seems sensible to me as then at least the next owner would know too!
Camshaft position sensor fitting location
Great job! Where to get this manual service pdf (I need for LR3 2.7 and LR4 3.0)?
Hi - you can download from Land Rover Topix website but you need to pay around £10 for access. Email if you need more information
Just got the manual. share you email address and i will send it to you
@@alakuishienyi4069 sales@powerfuluk.com thanks !
@@alakuishienyi4069are y talking about the manual appear in this video with pictures? The other one with electric diagrams and servicing (2005 edition) I already have it.
Just realised its a 200MB document, can't share via mail. Shared here. Includes all the Discos 3/4 probably all engines models. drive.google.com/file/d/1LpCPBBAklKM9Bm8Kt_YlRgpqgtkcDyRS/view?usp=sharing. kindly let me know if you can access it.
Hi. I was scared and got into an accident.
He's got the cam shaft bolt in the saddle and crank pulley. It's back in time. Tell me how to restore it.
The one building will come to the pump under come for it this one is a one bill will come to the pump and you come diesel v6
Salve sono Daniel ! Mi dispiace a dirlo però sono tanti sbagli che aveti fatto a mettere in fase motore. Anche manuale non spega tutto ...! Importante e che auto non sarà di qualche cliente .
The rear belt isn't as bad as it looks.
Please explain.
Are you saying that the rear belt on an SDV6 is quite 'do-able' by the average mechanically inclined .. non-mechanic without having to take the body off. Have you done it or is this something you have heard?
@@davidhuett3579 You don't need to raise the body to do the rear belt, I think people just say that because they don't like doing them.
Discovery 3/4 and RRS can be a bit tricky as access is limited but usually take about 2 hours to change.
On the new discovery and RRS from 2014-onwards it is quite a bit easier as there is plenty of access once scuttle is removed and can be done in an hour.
On the older models I think someone of average ability may find it tricky with putting the tensioner in its correct position and also removing the timing cover is a pain.
On newer models the access makes it much easier for even a novice to attempt.
**just a little disclaimer, I do work at JLR so I have gotten used to doing a majority of things, so my thinking of 'easy' may be warped.
@@arsenalftw1 thanks for that info .. always good to hear from those who work for JLR.
I'm assuming that you're not in the US and you are referring to a 3.0L SDV6.?
@@davidhuett3579 From the UK and yes SDV6.
please do the rear belt..........
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