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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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    Candied grapes recipe
    4 cups sugar
    3 cups water
    1 cup karo syrup
    Jolly ranchers
    Fruit roll ups
    Fruit by the foot
    Candy thermometer
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Komentáře • 187

  • @tricesouthernkitchen
    @tricesouthernkitchen Před rokem +103

    Looks good friend for small batches I use 2 cups of sugar half of cup of water half of cup of kero cook to 300

    • @blazeshaun1115
      @blazeshaun1115 Před rokem +2

      Thank you 🙏🏾 ❤

    • @DonnaGreen-pu4po
      @DonnaGreen-pu4po Před 7 měsíci

      That’s what I use!

    • @juslynhector7067
      @juslynhector7067 Před 3 měsíci

      Sorry don’t mean to bother you but how many minutes to keep it on the stove

    • @AshleighSplechter-qc4nq
      @AshleighSplechter-qc4nq Před 3 měsíci

      @@juslynhector7067get a thermometer and keep on until 300! It’s so hard to get it right without a candy thermometer

  • @Gods.dopest.creation
    @Gods.dopest.creation Před rokem +15

    You’re a ridiculously good teacher giiiiiirl I’m so excited to get started and try this tomorrow! I have everything except fruit roll ups. I’ll let you know how it turns out ❤ thank you queen

  • @lakeshacox7031
    @lakeshacox7031 Před rokem +7

    I love this recipe, thank you so much!

  • @KateCarew
    @KateCarew Před měsícem

    Your work is so tidy and organized looking. You really do make the most thorough tutorials and it’s so helpful.
    I wanted to make these for a birthday party.
    I’d never had them but I’ve seen them around and I looked at so many tutorials and yours is the most detailed and clear!
    Thank you very much for being so generous with your knowledge!!

  • @Marchent2tuff
    @Marchent2tuff Před rokem

    Loved this!❤

  • @gigiweakley5198
    @gigiweakley5198 Před 2 měsíci

    absolutely the best I've seen, they look so yummy and great step by step video 🙂

  • @latonyawhite2774
    @latonyawhite2774 Před 3 měsíci +1

    You explained everything to the T. Thank you!🙂

  • @lyriclashawn
    @lyriclashawn Před rokem +1

    Thank you best video so far 🥰🥰

  • @itslxmonbunz103
    @itslxmonbunz103 Před 6 měsíci +1

    your covered jolly ranchers fruits looks so yummy!! And pretty!!!🎉❤.

  • @vikiharmon2852
    @vikiharmon2852 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I would like to share a tip if it's ok. If you live somewhere with a high altitude the hard crack stage is 280. Thank you so much for your videos. Much appreciated 😊

  • @sharablake2
    @sharablake2 Před rokem

    Thank you girl so much you have a loyal follower....😊

  • @joycebrown5854
    @joycebrown5854 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you very much I have a event coming up and will like be able to try something nice and sweet for them so I'm going to give this a go this is by far the best video I have came across thank you again

  • @roderickwright5575
    @roderickwright5575 Před rokem +2

    Going to try it

  • @ravenhartinger8109
    @ravenhartinger8109 Před 5 měsíci

    I appreciate this video so much

  • @kyanawilliams30
    @kyanawilliams30 Před rokem

    Imma try this tomorrow 😄

  • @Alfwholikescats
    @Alfwholikescats Před rokem +8

    I made them Omg the are so good ! Wish I could share pic. My teens helped me make them. They loved it. Thank you for sharing your recipe! The fruit roll ups make the difference!!

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      Awesome! I’m so happy that you enjoyed them! 🥰Please share your picture on Instagram and tag me in it @lkrealitytv_ ♥️

    • @Alfwholikescats
      @Alfwholikescats Před rokem +1

      @@kkooks19 will do I used fruit by the foot I spaced what you used . It worked though!

    • @lieannlaverne5233
      @lieannlaverne5233 Před rokem

      The fruit by the foot is without the dip?

  • @chingona3065
    @chingona3065 Před rokem

    I wanna try these

  • @theebougieprincess3509
    @theebougieprincess3509 Před rokem +3

    You hav inspired me to start my own treat business! We’ll see how it goes but I’m excited!🥰🙌🏽

  • @VforVendetta6669
    @VforVendetta6669 Před 7 měsíci

    So pretty
    I want to do a some with li hing mui powder & maybe strawberry pop rocks

  • @hoeleft9215
    @hoeleft9215 Před rokem +6

    Just made some and they look so good hopefully I make some profit off them I got like 60 grapes outta this thank you so much!

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Yassss! I’m happy this recipe worked for you! 🥰

  • @yesthatsvic7275
    @yesthatsvic7275 Před 10 měsíci +2

    thank you so much for this ❤️ im about to start my treat business & you’ve prepared me so much! sending love & light ❤️

  • @TheAlexstiles
    @TheAlexstiles Před rokem

    YUMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!! 🌈💖🍇🍬🍭

  • @keyshaharding1092
    @keyshaharding1092 Před rokem

    Hello I’m a new subscriber and I love your channels.

  • @Native_milie
    @Native_milie Před 3 měsíci

    This video helped me so much I kept pressing the like button 😩🫶🏾🫶🏾thank you

  • @randybarrantes3889
    @randybarrantes3889 Před rokem

    Hi love the video everything looks nice and clean ❤. Can you add the link so i can get the same candy thermometer please 🙏

  • @Native_milie
    @Native_milie Před 3 měsíci

    I also wondered why it kept getting stuck in my teeth and when I let others sample they said the same the pot scrapping method is great

  • @louisianagirl7430
    @louisianagirl7430 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Okay thank you! I think you’ve answered my question as to why my jolly ranchers were getting sticky prior to dipping. I could never get mine to a fine powdery substance.

    • @kimberlynavarro2913
      @kimberlynavarro2913 Před 9 měsíci +1

      once your candy is crushed up add it to the freezer & take out right when your about to dip .. i’ve always heard adding a tablespoon of corn starch but haven’t tried that yet

    • @louisianagirl7430
      @louisianagirl7430 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@kimberlynavarro2913 awesome!! Thanks so much, I will try that.🫶🏾

    • @DonnaGreen-pu4po
      @DonnaGreen-pu4po Před 7 měsíci

      @@kimberlynavarro2913I use powdered sugar with my jolly ranchers. And keep them in them freezer till I’m ready to use them. I also store the left over in the freezer till next time.

  • @mariarivera8623
    @mariarivera8623 Před rokem

    You can also put a tablespoon of starch or powdered sugar. And refrigerate it will stay loose.

  • @topspincam360
    @topspincam360 Před rokem

    good morning and thank you ,have you every use jolly ranchers for color and flavor? I'm new to just saw a lady make karo mix than add about 5 to 7 jolly ranchers grape

  • @zarhiavellaidan6337
    @zarhiavellaidan6337 Před rokem

    Hello, are you using regular white sugar or caster sugar? :)) thank you for your video!

  • @topspincam360
    @topspincam360 Před rokem

    good morning, have you every used powder karo

  • @roderickwright5575
    @roderickwright5575 Před rokem

    Do you cook sugar and water on Nestor low heat?

  • @marianunez4978
    @marianunez4978 Před rokem

    Hi, did you have the live class already???? Love your work and your tips are very very helpful thankyou!

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Hello! Happy to know that I’ve been helpful ♥️ i will be posting a video with specific details for that upcoming class this weekend. Just make sure you have your post notifications set to all to be notified about the date, time and materials needed.

  • @allaboutnessa4381
    @allaboutnessa4381 Před rokem

    How do you make the second mixture?

  • @vikiharmon2852
    @vikiharmon2852 Před 2 měsíci

    I use a enamel coated cast iron

  • @michelleallen1826
    @michelleallen1826 Před 7 měsíci

    After I code the grapes in the candy do I have to put them in the freezer? If so for how long?

  • @tatianabenefield2092
    @tatianabenefield2092 Před 8 měsíci

    does it matter when we add the food coloring?

  • @charleedattoma4240
    @charleedattoma4240 Před rokem

    Should I also put strawberries and pickles in the freezer afterwards as well???

  • @blinkk84
    @blinkk84 Před rokem +2

    How many drops food coloring and flavoring do you put in ?

  • @user-ny4kf8te6d
    @user-ny4kf8te6d Před 9 měsíci

    Question before you do the stuff yu have to put them in the freezer first or yu can do it so then put them in the freezer for hoe much hours?

  • @Lild2paidd
    @Lild2paidd Před rokem

    Can you put them in the fridge ?

  • @Lifeewithhabratt
    @Lifeewithhabratt Před rokem

    how long does it supposed to boil?

  • @blkgl78
    @blkgl78 Před 4 měsíci

    Do you charge different prices, depending on the size of the containers?

  • @alexismagana300
    @alexismagana300 Před 5 měsíci

    Hello question the candy mixture gets hard quick sometimes when im not done dipping all my fruit , how do i prevent it from getting hard quickly .

  • @jovanyhernandez169
    @jovanyhernandez169 Před rokem

    Are the fruit roll up grapes room temperature? Or are they frozen

  • @Hannamariej13
    @Hannamariej13 Před rokem +2

    Where can I buy yours?

  • @lifewithjameka7854
    @lifewithjameka7854 Před rokem

    Where do you buy your grapes

  • @Iandfive
    @Iandfive Před rokem

    I’m having a hard time with the jolly ranchers Harding to fast before I even dip the grape any tips ?

  • @fredrick1878
    @fredrick1878 Před rokem

    Can you please tell me the song you we're playing

  • @bentbutnotbroken9193
    @bentbutnotbroken9193 Před rokem

    How much of the flavor do you use ?

  • @Zeniththemenaceee
    @Zeniththemenaceee Před rokem

    How do you store your grapes

  • @1987gradybaby
    @1987gradybaby Před rokem

    How many drops of each did you use?

  • @goldiepatton8279
    @goldiepatton8279 Před rokem +1

    What’s the name of the song playing

  • @MichelleM-qv2op
    @MichelleM-qv2op Před 5 měsíci

    I’m Kisha Michelle too… Hey Girl Hey 👋🏽

  • @dominiquesiwulich4746
    @dominiquesiwulich4746 Před 4 měsíci

    How do u sell them if they are only good in the fridge 1 to 2 days

  • @RedWhopper
    @RedWhopper Před měsícem

    What kind of sugar for the candy mixture?

  • @melaninqueen787
    @melaninqueen787 Před 8 měsíci

    Very informative video!! What website do you use to shorten the links to the products in the description box?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před 8 měsíci

      Hello, i use my Amazon affiliate account and just copy and paste from it. 💛

  • @keylahernandez6141
    @keylahernandez6141 Před měsícem

    Hi thank you so much for this video!! 😊 When you make the grapes the night before do you store them in the refrigerator or leave them out?

    • @hardnettalisha
      @hardnettalisha Před měsícem

      The refrigerator will cause them to sweat.

  • @lexistarr2094
    @lexistarr2094 Před rokem

    Ways should the candy temp be

  • @caleighmynhier1777
    @caleighmynhier1777 Před rokem

    How do you get it to the customers? Also how do you get customers

  • @user-ge4oy9bz4i
    @user-ge4oy9bz4i Před dnem

    how much flavoring do you use

  • @Jayden-jq6yp
    @Jayden-jq6yp Před 4 měsíci

    what type of grapes do you get?

  • @trisharush6070
    @trisharush6070 Před 11 měsíci

    I’ve been making them for about a month now and using the 4:1:1 recipe. It’s so thick and I waste so much because i can’t get through and order before it’s hard 😫. I’m going to try yours today!!

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před 11 měsíci +1

      It's life changing girl! Please let me know how it works for you! Thanks for watching ♥️

    • @trisharush6070
      @trisharush6070 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kkooks19 it worked AMAZINGLY!!!! Thank you sooo much!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @CottonCandy2023._.
    @CottonCandy2023._. Před rokem

    How can I place a order for your grapes ?

  • @lifelinefitness1
    @lifelinefitness1 Před rokem

    How can I order

  • @kimklink8573
    @kimklink8573 Před rokem +1

    Looks awesome. I’ve made grapes several times and my biggest issue is my mixture hardens up too fast. And I reheated once and it was horrible. Burnt it up. Any help?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +5

      Thank you! ♥️
      When you return it back to the heat, you wanna make sure that your outing it on low to medium heat and not medium high. Also make sure you don’t leave it unattended while it’s reheating. I’ll try to make a video about reheating candy soon!

  • @2003helena
    @2003helena Před rokem

    Hi. After blending your jolly ranchers and putting them in a zip lock bag do u put the bag in the freezer or just leave them in the bag

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      I just leave them in the ziploc bag until time to dip

  • @MsJetme
    @MsJetme Před měsícem

    Hello so pretty what prices do you think you should charge starting out ? Can anybody help me?

  • @DIAMONDISTMRSDIAMONDIST
    @DIAMONDISTMRSDIAMONDIST Před 3 měsíci

    I kno I’m late but every time I make these about 1 to 2 hrs later my grapes start to crack hot can I stop this from happening

  • @lezzlygonzalez3510
    @lezzlygonzalez3510 Před rokem +1

    Can i use a regular thermometer?
    The pointy one?
    Or what’s the difference between both of them?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Those are for meat. You want to use a candy thermometer for sure

  • @kplynx
    @kplynx Před rokem

    Hi love your video!! I have one question after I coated the grapes everything was fine then after 40 mins liquid candy started forming in the bottom of the container is that normal or am I doing something wrong ? Please help thank you

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem

      Hey! We're your grapes room temperature when you dipped? Did you make sure there were no abrasions on the grapes before you dipped? Any opening in the grapes or splits can cause liquid to break through the candy.

  • @andyrehajr9511
    @andyrehajr9511 Před rokem

    I just freeze grapes and ten did in rock candy I don’t wrap them

  • @tscott3140
    @tscott3140 Před rokem +3

    Don't have a candy thermometer ...how longs does it typically take to get to 300°?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      Yes. 35-45 minutes but that depends on your pot and cooking range.

  • @KS-qf8hd
    @KS-qf8hd Před rokem +2

    What are we doing with the starburst

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Hey there! I didn’t use any starburst 💜💜

  • @rebeccaberrian5125
    @rebeccaberrian5125 Před rokem

    Would you do the same recipe as for candied strawberries and pineapples ?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Yes. I have a candied pineapple video on here. I’ll be posting my kiwi and strawberry video either today or tomorrow.

    • @bakingdreamsbymaria7708
      @bakingdreamsbymaria7708 Před rokem

      @@kkooks19 how do you sell them?

  • @coupeent9815
    @coupeent9815 Před 11 měsíci

    If u don’t mind me asking … so after I add my gel food coloring at the 300 degrees mark how long after do I dip them ?

  • @user-tm8fq7gx4c
    @user-tm8fq7gx4c Před 7 dny

    I wanna order?guide me in the right direction ❤

  • @twalk110508
    @twalk110508 Před rokem +2

    Have you done popup shops with candied grapes/pineapples/strawberries? If you have did you take a mini fridge/freezer? I want to do a popup shop but just thinking about how the candy will break down lol

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      I have done a few.
      You can take a cooler to store them.

    • @twalk110508
      @twalk110508 Před rokem

      @@kkooks19 okay thank you!

    • @gypsysneakerhead3091
      @gypsysneakerhead3091 Před rokem +1

      @@kkooks19 so just a cooler with ice? If yes how do you pack them ? In individual plastic containers ? Lmk

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +3

      @@gypsysneakerhead3091 yes ma’am. I have the containers linked in my description box 💜

  • @Jayleen227
    @Jayleen227 Před rokem

    Hi is it okay for the sugar to turn light brown before 300 degrees?

  • @krazyk23
    @krazyk23 Před rokem

    I tried it but I’m doing something wrong🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ it gummy textured. I use a stainless steel pot on electric stove

  • @ursulablackwell6791
    @ursulablackwell6791 Před rokem

    does this recipe leave the grapes crunchy, when you bit into them?

  • @gatewood-wattsfamilyvlog3006

    How long do u let it sit before dipping

  • @user-xo5vw6ke8v
    @user-xo5vw6ke8v Před 4 měsíci

    Why fruit roll up what does that do

  • @Garypiddy123
    @Garypiddy123 Před rokem

    Do you go around once or twice

  • @Jayleen227
    @Jayleen227 Před rokem +4

    My mixture thickens up quick once I take it off the stove 😣 do you have any tips ?

  • @BossladyMisses81
    @BossladyMisses81 Před rokem +2

    How do you keep your crushed candy from hardening?

  • @korrionsymonette9480
    @korrionsymonette9480 Před rokem

    What temp is the oils added?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      You can add them at 280 or after you pull it off the heat. It doesn't matter

  • @tricesouthernkitchen
    @tricesouthernkitchen Před rokem +2

    Have you tried air heads

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      Yes i have! 🥰🥰

    • @topspincam360
      @topspincam360 Před rokem +1

      try pop rock candy the children love it

    • @tricesouthernkitchen
      @tricesouthernkitchen Před rokem

      Mmhmm ❤stay blessed love

    • @tricesouthernkitchen
      @tricesouthernkitchen Před rokem

      I just 3rd degree burned two fingers Thursday friend dipping pineapple ughh

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem

      @@tricesouthernkitchen oh nowwww! You have to extra careful when dipping them!

  • @KhilaJay
    @KhilaJay Před rokem

    Hey I have a question I'm not sure why my candy already be brown before 300 degrees any advice

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +3

      Hello! What type of pot are you using? And are you making it on a gas stove?

    • @stephanieiesha1
      @stephanieiesha1 Před rokem

      Same and yes gas stove

    • @Youngbrokenfab
      @Youngbrokenfab Před rokem

      you may have ur pot up too high so the candy is cooking faster in certain areas
      try to make sure u are taking the temperature on like two sides if ur pot n cook on medium heat

  • @cherry-qt5wc
    @cherry-qt5wc Před rokem +1

    do you know why my jolly rancher clumps up after i blend them??

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      If you have any moisture at the bottom of your blender, it will do that. If not, you need to place your crushed jolly ranchers into a ziplock bag IMMEDIATELY after blending. You cannot sit them in an exposed bowl because the air will make it stick together. You don’t want to pour them into a bowL until right before you start dipping your grapes.

    • @cyntgrant114
      @cyntgrant114 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sprinkle a little powdered sugar 2 any crushed candy. That will help.

  • @Cutieeepatootieee7
    @Cutieeepatootieee7 Před rokem

    I’m starting my business and they candy coating falls off any tips on coating?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +4

      Hey! Thanks for watching, I’ll be doing a live grape class here in the next week. Please join! 💜dates will be announced soon

    • @Cutieeepatootieee7
      @Cutieeepatootieee7 Před rokem +1

      @@kkooks19 looking forward to it!

  • @newhousecreditrepairllc3931

    Where do you get your coloring from?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      I have everything listed in my description box 💜

  • @Amazing_80
    @Amazing_80 Před 3 měsíci

    How much would u sell a bowl of those for ?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před 3 měsíci

      I sell my grapes in different containers small $12 medium $15 large $18
      A pick three tray is $35
      Pick 4 is $40

  • @tashawells1631
    @tashawells1631 Před rokem +1

    How many grapes do you put in a container?

  • @tammyhughes120
    @tammyhughes120 Před rokem

    Morning how much sugar do you mix with the crush jolly ranchers

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +1

      Hello! I didn’t mix sugar with the jolly ranchers. I just blended them up in a food processor 💜

    • @tammyhughes120
      @tammyhughes120 Před rokem

      @@kkooks19 ok thank you

  • @tamiaa01
    @tamiaa01 Před 3 měsíci

    Epic fail for me 😂😂 burnt!!! Currently crying on the floor 😂

  • @nabeelahnaseehah7884
    @nabeelahnaseehah7884 Před 3 měsíci

    How many grapes do you put in a container and how much do you charge?

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před 3 měsíci

      It really depends on the size of your grapes. I have a video talking about how many grapes can fit into each container and how many you can make with one batch of candy, on my channel ♥️

  • @shequetarichardson6401

    Ok so i tried to do this today but my candy came out too sticky when ate what did i do wrong. Like sticking to your teeth sticky

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem

      That means that your candy did not reach the hard crack stage. This has happened to me when my pot wasn't any good. Although the thermometer says 300°, the candy didn't evenly cook. Which with give you that uncomfortable bite. Next time, put some cold Walter in a bowl or cup and add some of your candy mixture in the water to see if it's actually at the hard crack stage.

  • @bombchellez_24kt54
    @bombchellez_24kt54 Před rokem

    My candy mixture keeps cooling fast no matter what I try I can never finish all my grapes it seem like after the white it get thick

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +2

      You can reheat it when it starts getting thick. I do it all the time.

    • @bombchellez_24kt54
      @bombchellez_24kt54 Před rokem

      @@kkooks19 how and do you know the resaon cause it’s like everytime I use whit it becomes thick and not liquidy and I don’t put much white so my mixture doesn’t turn white. I use more water but it still does it. I wonder if my mixture is not hot enough or my white is gone bad

    • @Royaltyrichinc
      @Royaltyrichinc Před rokem +1

      @@bombchellez_24kt54 is it this difficult making this stuff it seem like a lot you have to remember, I was thinking to try this for business but ion know now

  • @MrSmartyPants44
    @MrSmartyPants44 Před rokem +2

    GIRL HELP ME! I have an order for tomorrow and a couple days ago I made my candy grapes with your recipe and they melted a little the next day! I put them in the fridge so I don’t know what I did wrong. I’m crying! I can’t give that to my customers! How do you keep them from melting over night? If I put them in the freezer overnight then grapes will be frozen! I need tips!!!

    • @kkooks19
      @kkooks19  Před rokem +3

      Hello! Please, if you can, make them the same day you give them to your customer. They will naturally start to break down if i make them the day before, i make them at night and store them in the freezer and put them in the fridge the next morning. A little break down is ok because it will still taste great!

    • @MrSmartyPants44
      @MrSmartyPants44 Před rokem +2

      @@kkooks19 oh okay thank you! It’s because I’m selling these grapes at school and people wanna buy them and I have to make them the night before so I can bring them to school the next morning! So I should put them in the freezer overnight and then in the fridge in the morning? Im just really scared that they will be frozen grapes then just regular grapes! I want them to be cold grapes! That’s it!

    • @onedirectionemely
      @onedirectionemely Před rokem +1

      @@MrSmartyPants44 I think that’s what she meant! I think putting them in the freezer will preserve them and then putting them in the fridge will bring them to room temp! Maybe even try freezer then putting them out ?

    • @AyoGlizzy
      @AyoGlizzy Před rokem

      Hey I’m trying to start this I just want to know should the grapes be frozen when dipping into candy ?

    • @jewelfreeman1587
      @jewelfreeman1587 Před rokem

      I am going to try dipping them frozen as we do frozen pineapple 🍍, they are both fruit, I will come back with my results in a few days. I do love her videos as I have watched so many. Sweet Connection is another good person to watch, she freeze her grapes until customers need them, hope this helps someone